220lbs of Dynamic Cinematic Carnage AND Audiophile Bliss? | Arendal 1723 Review
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220lbs of Dynamic Cinematic Carnage AND Audiophile Bliss? | Arendal 1723 Review
*Description:*
Well, hello there. I've been a little sick, and I hope I can get through this without hacking up a lung. Bear with me. Thank you.
Today on New Record Day, I'm excited to dive into the Arendal 1723 Tower Speakers, priced at $3899 for the pair. These are a competent, well-made loudspeaker that offers deep, powerful bass and top-end extension. While they can be a little forward at times, this can be tamed with speaker positioning and tubes.
Arendal may not be exclusively a home theater company, but many folks eyeing these speakers are probably both 2-channel enthusiasts and multichannel dabblers. Think along the lines of SVS and Klipsch. For today's review, I'm focusing on the audiophile music experience with the 1723 Towers.
Let's get into the details:
- **Specifications**: The 1723s are large, standing 45 inches tall, 11 inches wide, and 16 inches deep, weighing 111 pounds each. They feature a two-and-a-half-way design with port plugs, black and white finish options, slanted cabinets, and magnetic grills.
- **Drivers and Build Quality**: A soft dome tweeter, four treated paper cone woofers, and a robust design. They have excellent build quality, despite being made in China.
- **Listening Impressions**: The sound can be a bit forward, but using tubes like the Gallion TS120 in class A mode can balance this. The treble is precise, though slightly lacking in air and ambience. The midrange is clean and detailed, especially in female vocals. The bass is deep and tight, with the option to use port plugs for customization.
- **Soundstage**: Impressive imaging and a massive soundstage, great for both home theater and 2-channel listening.
Join me for an in-depth review, sound clips, and measurements to see if these speakers are the right fit for you. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share your thoughts in the comments!
*Chapters:*
0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Specifications & Design
4:30 - Drivers & Build Quality
6:45 - Listening Impressions
10:00 - Treble, Midrange & Bass
15:30 - Soundstage
17:00 - Sound Clips
20:00 - Measurements
23:00 - Final Thoughts
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Ron here. It’s interesting listening to the sound demos through the same speakers. It is a rather large difference between the two. I am hearing your room and recording.
Thank you,Ron, for a very even-handed, well-measured review. Well-done.
Take care of yourself, my man.
How have you been...? I can hear you not ok. Please take care. I can hear the struggle... we all have our love and care there with you in these tough times...
I'll say it. Vaxxed.
He is not dying. Just some flue.
I recently purchased a pair of 1723 towers, I absolutely love them. I’m 99% 2 channel. I’m driving them with a McIntosh MC312 (300WPC). You are spot on with the forward upper midrange but was easily able to tame with the McIntosh EQ. I actually loved them so much I bought a pair of the Arendal 1961 towers for another system , thanks for the review!!😊
How do the two compare? And what's powering the other ones? Can you give EQ details? (Not just to tame the highs to your preference, but any/all adjustments made).
@@Artcore103 I’m driving the 1961 towers with a 40+ year old G7500 Sansui Receiver (90WPC) sounds awesome I also add an SVS 3000 micro sub that’s tuned down to 30Hz @-20dB. Great pairing! For the 1723 towers I’m using a McIntosh EQ I’ve tuned down the 3KHz and the 1KHz from 12 o’clock to about 10 o’clock. No gain numbers on the EQ. I hope this helps!😎
Get well soon, Ron. Thanks for another fine review video. Best regards from Japan, (ex-Scotland).
Those in-room graphs make me envious of your room! What an incredibly successful investment!
Take care Ron. Thanks for another well made review. Br from Sweden.
Very good review. I feel like I understand how they sound now.
Excellent job once again. The sound clips being short are the way to go. Having owned speakers with the tweeter in a 8" waveguide, I can say that it brings a forward nature to the sound. That I think is what you are hearing. Perhaps the on axis high freq. gain was designed in as most people setting these up for home theatre would just point the speakers straight forward for ascetics and where the highs flatten out. Thanks you.
Thanks for a balanced review of a hyped product! Other reviewers have pointed out the rise in the treble, but few have talked about the dip in the midrange, which to me is just as problematic. And this was also clearly showcased in the sound clips. Hope you feel better soon!
Great review and good honest comments. Get well soon.
Take care of yourself Ron and thanks for the video!
Feel better man! Arendal's look cool.
listening to them right now and i'm liking it more than my other "heritage horn speakers"
Get well son...great review as always❤️
Sorry you've not been feeling well. :(
I've been watching your Caladan video a lot, love the look of those. Interested if they'd be good for 2.1 home theater. Also how ok they'd be if I can only give them 1 foot wall clearance for the next couple years.
Thanks!
Arendal is just simply amazing products and for the money they offer crazy value.
Do they really? Or does their excellent marketing tell you that? Don't get me wrong wouldn't say no to their gear and will probably get their subs at next upgrade!
Thanks, Ron. Your observations are highly valuable as the youtube reviewers that have previously "reviewed" them are by far HT first enthusiasts. At their price point, I would consider Mofi source point 10 and Kef R5 as better two channel enthusiast speakers. The dynamic SPL level of the 1723 are phenomenal, but they fall short in depth, airy detail presentation of the 10s and R5. They remind me of Perlisten S7T, in that they are excellent speakers for HT, very good for two channel music, but the competition at their respective price point is quite formidable.
Thanks for a great time, as always with your videos 😊
Arendal, makes very good stuff, that punches way above its class (I think).
I am looking forward to their next speaker, the 1528 (if memory serves).
Btw, there is no such thing as too much bass🤪🤪🤪 well, as long as it is clean and tight bass, that is🤪
Because of the size of my room, I purchased the 1723 s tower speakers. I am using them in a stereo configuration. Source is a VPI/SME/Ortofon 2M Black, VTL 2.5, McCormack DNA-0.5 Deluxe Edition and an assortment of Audioquest cables. I've cared about reproduced sound since the 1970s. I am extremely happy with these speakers and I would imagine if they were manufactured in Europe, and covered with a fancy veneer, people would be happily spending 10 to $12,000 a pair for them. I was particularly attracted to this company's in-home audition policy. Giving the consumer plenty of time to decide whether or not these speakers are right for them. They are definitely right for me and I don't anticipate buying new ones anytime soon.
Thanks for the review iv'e been waiting for. Send them to GR for upgrad and give us soundclipse afterwards. I'm sure they are built with "cheesy parts" and will soud even better without sandcast resistors.
I belive they want us to pronuance it Aren dal.
In scandinavia we put words together as you know and make it not so easy for you guys❤
i have these speakers. i love them. my end game speakers!!
Wow…these might be the underdog 2 channel choice over so many towers out there. And, 55 but can still hear up to 15k with ease. So there 😂
Please feel better Ron 🙏🏼❤️
The oboe? in the second sound track was slightly muted on the 1723's to my ear. It's still quite audible but noticeably different.
They sound good.
You’re no good to yourself if you don’t take care of you first. Some may be impatient. I am not. Really informative review. Borrenson C1, I hope I spelt that correctly. That’s an end game bookshelf, my opinion. Take care Ron.
Hope you get feeling better buddy ' Thanks for the video '
I appreciate it
@@Newrecordday2013Great Stuff! Love It! Are These Ideal For A HOME THEATER ENTERTAINMENT Set Up Like Svs Or Klipsch Speakers Set Up, Or Are They Simply Better?????
Could you list your reference tracks?
Get yourself well, my friend.
I wonder how they would compare to the SVS Ultra Evolution Pinnacles?
I'm 70 and built first sub in 71. Yep ,I hear to 13k and some tinnitus. It sux but I save $ and diy,can't tell much difference
Hey Ron, in your experience, how do these Arendals stack against the Perlisten towers you reviewed previously?
I feel like we are seeing a relatively new segment in “audiophile” 2 channel emerging: really good towers that are part of HT system. I see SVS as leading the charge in this direction, but there are others like Arendal as well. And I get it. I have a Sonos HT system. Am I listening to 2 channel on this system? No. Do I wish I had a system where the front 2 channels were good enough for me to want to listen to them without doing more than pressing some buttons on my remote? Yes. Do I expect the last word in sound quality from a system like this? No, but it doesn’t have to be the last word. It just has to be good enough for me to not go running down the audiophile rabbit hole.
Kind see this as another variation on the other trend we have seen in 2 channel: the all in one speaker where you just connect the speaker to an Ethernet cable, plug the speakers into the wall and you are done, no mixing and matching of equipment. Some audiophiles live for the mixing and matching, others just want to enjoy the music with a minimum of fuss.
Over time, I see both of these trends taking over the “audiophile” sub $10,000 speaker market.
If the top end of a speaker is elevated, the fix isn't changing out the front end gear, it's very easy, it's a little thing called EQ. You're welcome.
That’s not going to make a forward sounding speaker sound smooth and pleasing like different gear could. Especially if you’re already having issues with that with your current gear.
Are These Just As Good Or Better Speakers, As Klipsch And Svs When It Comes To HOME THEATER SET UP????
Oh hey ... This is cool - I own these. I really Love them for my 2 channel HiFi. ( small room tho )
I can agree with and hear a lot of what you mention here. It's nice to get your measurements to add to the conversation.
Yah - I could easily live with these for the rest of my HiFi life ... BUT .... you know what I know .. That Dragon is always flying around.
I will have some words with a new brand rep and I HOPE ... you'll consider demo'ing what I am looking at getting next. =)
Maybe I'll send ya a FB DM =) ( or text )
Man Ron, you need to take care of yourself buddy. Appreciate the dedication but a few more days of R&R would do you a world of good 🙏
At 80 I'm probably missing some high-end, in any event, I don't hear a difference.
Sounds like I'll stick with my Martin Logan xtf200s.
Great, that sounds like what I remember, and now I know it is not just me, cause Arendal themselves would not admit it was a bit bright when I told them. I was told that maybe I have sensitive ears. hehe
Well, when that is said they were bright in a good way and not in a fatiguing klipsch way.
By the way. I have recently become aware of Lyngdorf room correction called room perfect, also used by Mcintosh. Now this is apparently not the same as dirac and other room correction products on AVR's. And I got to listen to a briefley calibrated setup without knowing the room very well, but I must say it sounded impressive. And I have tried dirac and Audassy, so I can confirm that Room Perfect did sound a lot better then and there. This is room correction for stereo, so I would find it very interestion to hear how it works in your room??
Like I said, this is not like dirac, and it does not adjust frequencies. However, I have yet to fully understand what it does a 100% as there are many vague explanations online, and many seem to think it is just another dirac type of product. No, this might be the holy grail for people who need room acoustics but cant. It was soo good that I considered getting one and only using those features on top of my equiptment as I do have some low end problems still in my room.
Room perfect absolutely does "adjust frequencies". It could have no effect if it didn't, that's what room correction is. It's just a different algorithm and measurement system. It may be superior, I don't know, but it works in fundamentally the same way... EQ.
@@Artcore103 that sounds strange, but then it will eventually not be good case this frequenzy adjustments does not fix reflection issues, but I could have sworn I read something about that this is not what room perfect does, and there was something about flipping phase, not just for subs. I might have missunderstood completely, but then I am back to zero
@@Rockit66 it may play with delaying certain frequency ranges for phase reasons too, that's a thing that can be done with DSP, but it absolutely changes frequency response via EQ, which is not inherently problematic for phase, which is not the primary issue room correction seeks to adjust.
They sound better than the reference track. I think you're missing the point they are meant to be close to the wall. that's how they were designed and that will bring up some of the baritone around 200 to 100 Hertz just block the first bottom port and leave the top Port open about 10 inches from the wall.
Wrong and no.
@@Newrecordday2013😂
@@Newrecordday2013 there's nothing wrong about it, explain what you mean
Great Ron. These speakers are clear and dynamic, but they sound a bit thin.
EQ
I've still not figured out from any description what is a 2.5 or 2 1/2 speaker. What I do know is that I can't accept less than a 3 way speaker for my main speakers. Yes there are some good two way speakers and I own some they are my rear speaker.l. I listen more to music through my flatscreen via my computer than use my flatscreen to watch movies, and center channel speakers are not musical generally and rarely use a center channel speaker. Are we sure the whole 2.5 speaker is just cheating by the speaker manufacturers? lol wouldn't be the first time.
No, it’s not cheating at all. It offers many benefits over a dual woofer 2 way. This one was just implemented poorly.
The 2.5 way configuration of the arendal means that the bottom 2 woofers are playing from 0 to 120hz, and the top 2 woofers are playing from 0 to the xoverpoint to tweeter, which is 1500 or 2500hz.( can't remember exactly). All woofers are woofing but only 2 of them are midrange also. Hope this helps
I tried out the 1723 and it was not a huge fan. Decent speaker but not endgame for me. My CSS 1TDX sounds better in my opinion.
Of you took the safe and effective products it may account for you feeling rough... compromised immune system.
Stay well my friend.
👍😎👍
Rip to NRD’s back
Your lookin a touch pale hope your health is ok Ron
Look like you lost some weight. Hope you are doing ok!
If I only used my hearing curve, I wouldn't even need tweeters. Be assured that I can still hear treble problems because they interact with the midrange.
Yikes! Not a very well designed crossover or tweeter, bad response.
2 things… I hope you get better soon! Also, thank you for eschewing "wife acceptance factor" for something a bit more gender neutral. There are a lot of 'folks partnered to audio nerds' who aren't wives. Cheers!
These almost $4K speakers don't even have their crossover in phase? ummmm.... Sorry I can do better on a shot from the hip using published driver data and a few hours in a circuit sim and that's not even my job. Pass.
You know nothing.
@@andreasmoller9798No, he’s right. This is a poorly designed speaker with a more than 8db range in output through the frequency response.
i’ve never seen anyone and i mean anyone, wear a cap with the collar button closed🙈
here’s a great idea, how about a tie and a suit? why not, with a cap afcorse 👏🏼😂🤣
i ain’t no diva i mean i wear socks and sandals 😂
but this going too far 🫣 you do you but it looks wierd fo sure😂
love your work tho😉
Your obsession with what I wear is unnerving.
@@Newrecordday2013 😂👏🏼 i’m not obsessed, just concerned is all😂
sorry but this kind of ,, mass produced,, towers are never ,,end game cinema,,. Maybe for the mainstream audience but endgame cinema is double bass array and a whole acoustic concept, ;-) who will put this ,, design,, speakers into a bafflewall between rockwool / insulation
😂
@@rockroll9513whats so funny ? he's right
@@MMK___ no, he's not. "End Game" is subjective. These can be an end game speaker for some.
How is it that people who start their sentences with Sorry, but are almost never sorry at all but just very eager to be right.
oh and Arendal have four different subs in the 1723 system. Depending on room size and music or movie preference you can pick and choose.
Admirable dedication to the craft. Take care, looking forward to the next one.