Fire Emblem Engage on Nintendo Switch is NOT what we thought... | Nontendo Podcast #36

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  • @FluffyMustache
    @FluffyMustache Před rokem +156

    Wood, Bob, I am BEGGING you, DO NOT end the podcast!! This podcast is something I genuinely look forward to each week. I seriously would be so sad if it ended 😢

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint Před rokem +5

      They address it multiple times that they're actually fine and there is a comment that read along those lines in a previous video and their poking fun at it. the podcast is not ending

    • @inspica380
      @inspica380 Před rokem +3

      @@Dracossaint Bob and Wood mentioned it for reactions just like this. More comments the better for the video... They know what they're doing.

    • @marianoluceroiii402
      @marianoluceroiii402 Před rokem

      I would be so sad if this podcast ended, I watch every episode. I wasnt offended it was real moment people are to much in the cancel culture mode. Please dont worry about it for the biggest fans of you guys and your chemistry together.

    • @Viz79
      @Viz79 Před rokem +5

      They should end it. It's pretty much failed. Remember bobs knowledge of current gaming is next to none (he hasn't played fire emblem. What a surprise lol) and Wood has been jaded and depressed for months now and you can tell if you've followed him for years. It's just not an enjoyable watch

    • @tedemery82
      @tedemery82 Před rokem

      @@Viz79lol this message is depressing hahah

  • @montypython1533
    @montypython1533 Před rokem +129

    The more laid-back and unstructured this show is, the better it is. This was a good one.

  • @MasterStacona
    @MasterStacona Před rokem +137

    Fire Emblem Engage is the game's 30th anniversary, so they wanted it be a celebration of the series and introduce nostalgic aspects of every fire emblem in some way. Some ways are very subtle and others are very obvious like with the emblem paralogue missions (and yes, Ike's mission made me very emotional experiencing a recreation of that map)

    • @ian-blum
      @ian-blum Před rokem +34

      It seems like the purpose of this release was lost among so many newer players who came in during Three Houses and aren't really familiar with the franchise

    • @zanmaru9zan744
      @zanmaru9zan744 Před rokem +8

      Yeah..some of those maps kinda challenging..like leif my god i have a rough time in his trial..but i do agree hector eliwood and lyn was the first 3 lord i control and seeing lyn in this game again bring back those old memories..if not for fe the blazing blade i won't be playing 3h and engage now..and thanks to awakening that this game didn't die..

    • @EronanTruth
      @EronanTruth Před rokem +3

      It seems like a lot more love went into the Maps this time around. I haven't gone through a lot of the game but even in the first 8 chapters, I'm enjoying the maps far more than I ever did in Three Houses.
      The maps in Three Houses were disgustingly bland and felt like the same strategy would work every time and there was little variation.
      The monastery itself in Three Houses also received a lot of criticism because it just became boring after the 3rd playthrough, it was a chore in the 2nd playthrough. You don't want to make your players feel like you're doing chores.

    • @MNtoCali
      @MNtoCali Před rokem +4

      @@EronanTruth The somniel is an issue in the first play through its 10x worse. The loading screens are a waste of time, from arena to ring chamber to trials all have loading screens. Fishing is useless, supports get built for free with the update. The maps are basic because of the size of them. They are all under 100 tiles. The scenery is nice but 4-6 movement feels like a mobile game. This game really brought the franchise down a level

    • @blazeromancia
      @blazeromancia Před rokem +2

      ​@@MNtoCali well if having smaller maps makes them basic then I hope they keep making basic maps, I don't want another Genealogy map design.
      Also what do you mean they have less then 100 tiles, chapter 21 I know for sure it has 560 tiles in total.
      The 4-6 movement was solely made to balance fliers and cavs as they were just way too strong compared to infantry units just thanks to their movement, and we've seen what having fliers too strong did in 3H.
      It might have brought FE writing down but the map design and enemy placement definitely went up compared to 3H, and by a lot.

  • @justynh1321
    @justynh1321 Před rokem +136

    Just gonna say it, wood is a genuine guy, so is Bob, their kind of like the two friends who you wouldn't seem like they would mesh, and yet they mesh perfectly. Wood is a sort of positive guy who is like the pg 13 guy at your job who has some underthe hood damage but is a sweet guy, and Bob is like the R guy at your job who is semi angry and critical of everything, but once you crack his shell he's really kind and caring. And I can't wait to see more stuff between the two of them.

  • @SuperCred1t
    @SuperCred1t Před rokem +183

    Don't stop making these please. Friends have moments. It's fine. If you guys are cool, then it's all cool

    • @Revali69420
      @Revali69420 Před rokem +6

      Exactly and it would suck if you guys cancel the podcast because there the best part of my day

    • @alexlilano1931
      @alexlilano1931 Před rokem +6

      Wood is taking on too much if you watch his other channel. Wood needs to cut down on his work load to even stay on CZcams. I've been there. He needs to cut down and really pick the best options.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint Před rokem

      The name of the bonus episode is planning the next few podcast

    • @inspica380
      @inspica380 Před rokem +1

      Honestly, I don't feel like canceling the podcast was even in the cards, they were just looking for reactions like this. The more comments the better the video does. They've put in way too much effort for a $100 bet on a game they made up to get in the way of their business.
      I even watched the episode with the game they were talking about and I didn't notice them get actually mad at each other. They just played it up.

    • @toast8221
      @toast8221 Před rokem

      @@inspica380 People in the comments were talked Ng about how they think it will be cancelled and how tense it got.

  • @Jazziefay16
    @Jazziefay16 Před rokem +66

    I have a lot of respect by the way you addressed the prior podcast and comments wood! It feels like you actually do care and I wanted to thank you for that

  • @WickedRay2020
    @WickedRay2020 Před rokem +93

    I really don't want to lose this podcast, it's the first podcast I've ever paid for a Patreon for and I enjoy listening to you guys

    • @ggarcia4114
      @ggarcia4114 Před rokem +5

      I second this 🙌🏼 been a patron since day one and I look forward to the podcast every week

    • @amber88565
      @amber88565 Před rokem +4

      This is my first Patreon supported podcast too. Love them

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint Před rokem +2

      The name of the bonus episode is planning the next few podcast

    • @DragonHeart613
      @DragonHeart613 Před rokem +1

      Are these recently filmed episodes of their Podcast or was this filmed months ago? Wood did say on his channel not that long ago that he was taking some much-needed time-off from CZcams & Twitch in order to focus on his mental health.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint Před rokem

      @@DragonHeart613 they are like within a week, saw the love stream with the ds edge controller.

  • @carsoncurley9532
    @carsoncurley9532 Před rokem +60

    I definitely think that a lot of old school Fire Emblem fans like myself did not enjoy 3 Houses and Engage is a step in the right direction to bringing us back into the series.

    • @Animacon312
      @Animacon312 Před rokem +15

      I agree 100% ,saying that it looks like genshin impact and a mobile game but with 60 bucks is so disrespectful. The story is not as bad as the reviews say specifically in chapter 10. And also the past heroes backstop adds a lot of sauce imo

    • @carsoncurley9532
      @carsoncurley9532 Před rokem +13

      @@Animacon312 I mean honestly besides FE4/5 and 9/10 Fire Emblem has never had great storytelling lol. It’s good enough to keep me interested in the stories, but that’s never really been the focus.

    • @MasterStacona
      @MasterStacona Před rokem +2

      @@carsoncurley9532 FE10 is Awakening, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn is FE8 / FE9, Engage even numbers all of the games in order from first to last.
      Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn has an amazing world and story, but that is because it is a 2-game story
      Engage is a good story, but most importantly it is a good replay story because of how fast the story pacing is early game

    • @MasterStacona
      @MasterStacona Před rokem +7

      @@Animacon312 Somehow Fire Emblem, the 30 year old franchise that has always had this type of art style with micro adjustments between games, ripped off the art style of a game that somewhat recently came out.
      I saw Engage art style and immediately thought it is a fire emblem game and nothing else.

    • @Animacon312
      @Animacon312 Před rokem +4

      @Stacona same its just people that are new to the series that think like this which is fine but it's not a fact

  • @Atticus_Loves_Lacquer
    @Atticus_Loves_Lacquer Před rokem +22

    If friends can’t get in minor disputes when playing competitive games, are they even friends? 😅. You guys are real and honest. Keep doing you

  • @finestcustard5647
    @finestcustard5647 Před rokem +17

    One good thing about the pacing of Engage is it’s been great for me to play before bed. Pop in, no bs, straight to battle and I’m playing.

  • @ventarmadness9692
    @ventarmadness9692 Před rokem +31

    Btw FE Engage and 3 Houses were made by 2 different teams 3 Houses was mase primarily by koei tecmo and was using the Musou engine and was directed by some major IS staff. Saying this as a huge 3 houses fan many in FE community were angry at the monastery and how much of the game focused on the social sim life sim aspects. While 3 houses is still my favorite FE game it is by no means the favorite of the fanbase overall. I also feel you shouldnt be to upset that a tactical rpg is focused on tactical rpg combat. Engage has a good amount of the life sim stuff just scaled back a bit. So I dont mind a back and forth of Large grittier story followed by a more fun more light hearted story.

    • @The_Nintendork
      @The_Nintendork Před rokem +6

      This is the right take. they are both good, they each aren’t perfect, but they are great entries. FE3H social sim aspect is my main complaint about the game, as it does take me out of the flow, and made it harder for me to want to keep moving through the chapters. I took a long break from it, only to finish up the last 8-10 chapters in Dec/Jan before FEE came out. I didn’t stop playing FEE, but overall I’d say FE3H and FEE are very much both great games, and neither is perfect, but because they do have some of differences and the majority of the people i see not liking FEE call out the Persona-like qualities as being the thing they didn’t like.

    • @skythz85
      @skythz85 Před rokem

      What they said above. For me personally though I don't mind them trying out new things to keep things fresh and different sometimes, but I do understand that not everyone can be expected to be receptive to those changes

  • @ryanmccarthy8968
    @ryanmccarthy8968 Před rokem +3

    Hey Wood, long-time Fire Emblem fan here. Just because I want you to enjoy the game/series, it might be helpful to know generally you want to at least be playing on hard, and in classic mode. If a character dies you restart (or in this game, use the time crystal).
    The entire fun of the series comes from the challenge, and the unintended character stories that happen on the battlefield in really tough situations. Being forced to really think outside the box and build characters in ways that maybe is unusual or specific to your play-style makes for so much fun.
    My archer for instance, recently cheesed a whole boss room by reloading his engage skill over and over, and because of that he’s now levelled up a ton and basically become my parties hero. I was done for otherwise and would have had to do a full restart, but he pulled through! Getting to head back to the lobby afterward is a fun bonus, but not really where the real story happens if you ask me.
    I know it’s not traditional storytelling, and requires a lot of the player, but I love it, and genuinely hope you can find it too!

  • @finestcustard5647
    @finestcustard5647 Před rokem +46

    I love the new fire emblem game. The visuals look really crisp and the gameplay is so snappy. I wish it didn’t need to have all the bad dialogue. I feel like every character doesn’t matter at all which is the opposite of how I felt about three houses.

    • @jemiebridges3197
      @jemiebridges3197 Před rokem +3

      Absolutely having a character die in 3 houses is an automatic game reset. It's like someone killed your lover.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Před rokem +5

      You most be new to Fire Emblem then. This game still has a support system and you can still interact with them outside of supports. What more do you guys want?

    • @dantom1958
      @dantom1958 Před rokem +7

      @@ZackSNetwork I’m genuinely trying to figure out this bad dialogue point. Like it weird at times sure but so could three houses be. I mean i look at things like Diamant and Alcrest vs. their father or Hortensia and Ivy vs. their father and I’m like “How can anyone find this cringy”

    • @LordlyWeeb
      @LordlyWeeb Před rokem +4

      That's normal for the series. Every character who isn't plot important/royalty doesn't show up in cutscenes.

    • @ajch22
      @ajch22 Před rokem +3

      @@ZackSNetwork I think what it comes down to is the quality of said dialogues. Many supports in 3 Houses had their characters having more emotional baggage to work with than most regular FE games, and thus, opens up to interesting and meaningful conversations between them, meanwhile, although Engage does have those good dialogues as well, they are very few in comparison, and thus, less likely to show up.

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds Před rokem +25

    I love Fire Emblem Engage. It looks great and the gameplay is like old fire emblem but with the emblem mechanics. It’s just fun and awesome celebration of the series. I love Three Houses too but it’s the only one of its kind like that really, persona-y

  • @aqlandmirrorvideogamerandc2983

    Please don't stop making these podcast videos. They are so good. Both wood and Bob are so entertaininging to watch and good fun.

  • @ShortTempered
    @ShortTempered Před rokem +7

    Even though you guys weren't in person, the way you guys did this episode made it feel like it was! I appreciate the effort that went into this! :)

  • @BeugsTheLegend
    @BeugsTheLegend Před rokem +22

    As a die hard fire emblem fan, I thought the three houses social stuff was too much. The battles are what I love so I’m enjoying engage more than three houses. Awakening, Birthright and Conquest on 3ds are still my favorites.

    • @koiitree
      @koiitree Před rokem +2

      as a new time FE fan, i adored the sim aspect. that seems to be the case honestly!

  • @BowlingPin12
    @BowlingPin12 Před rokem +16

    On Fire Emblem, is it a regression because they made a traditional Fire Emblem? Would it be a regression if they make the next Mario game 2D instead of like Odyssey? Is Metroid Dread a regression because it isn’t like Prime?

    • @kyburgoyne9644
      @kyburgoyne9644 Před rokem +1

      Yes exactly!!!!!! I would also add Zelda too!

    • @takeyourheart3030
      @takeyourheart3030 Před rokem

      It is a regression. 🤷‍♀️ They made the game deeper and better, then went backwards and made it soulless again.

    • @Blaze1101
      @Blaze1101 Před rokem +2

      @@takeyourheart3030 wrong, the only thing Three Houses has over Engage is the story and writing, Engage trumps Three Houses in every other aspect, this is coming from someone who loved Three Houses

  • @sonictonic_
    @sonictonic_ Před rokem +20

    Popping in the comments to say I love this podcast and I LOVE FIRE EMBLEM ENGAGE I do NOT understand the negatives this game is getting, it is awesome.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Před rokem +8

      People are complaining that the story is not that great. However this is always a thing in games these days because people of today care far more about a games story than gameplay, art aesthetics, music and characters. People want a series like Fire Emblem to have stories on par with Harry Potter and Game of Thrones. That’s how delusional and ridiculous gamers of today are. Then there’s the old nostalgic Fire Emblem fans that hate on any modern game in the series. They are people that think all the old games are better when they are not.

    • @kaiserphoenix2038
      @kaiserphoenix2038 Před rokem +5

      ​@@ZackSNetwork Fwiw, most people that care about FE stories care about art aesthetics, music, and characters over gameplay as well. And no one is asking for stories on par with HP and GoT (you're the one being ridiculous by suggesting that), people just want an interesting and not bland story to hook them in, and for plenty, Engage isn't cutting it.

    • @bigz3483
      @bigz3483 Před rokem +5

      @@kaiserphoenix2038 tbf most stories in the FE series are very cookie cutter outside of Genealogy, Thracia, and 3H. For FE the story is just a vehicle for the stellar gameplay

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Před rokem

      @@kaiserphoenix2038 I’m not being ridiculous the Fire Emblem community is filled with nostalgia, hypocrisy and delusion. The only thing they care about is story over everything else. You are completely wrong about the story focused people caring about characters, music or art. Majority of the past lords were not interested either. Nor were the characters that appeared on screen after joining and having no importance afterwards. Your the one that’s ridiculous acting like all they want is a simple thing when they will never be happy regardless.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork Před rokem +1

      @@bigz3483 Genealogy’s main plot point is about reviving a evil dragon spirit to destroy the world. No different from other FE games. The politics of FE4 is just the cover up of the main plot. As well as armor of making the game look more complex than it really is.

  • @jobi-wankenobi2244
    @jobi-wankenobi2244 Před rokem +9

    Please don’t stop this podcast, infact the loose crazy fun in the last video was actually very entertaining and fun!

  • @RevolutionDude
    @RevolutionDude Před rokem +1

    As a big fan of the podcast, can I just say how much I absolutely love these more laid back episodes where it’s just the two of you. Nothing wrong at all with any other guest, but I could listen to just you two talk for hours on end!
    Thank you for all the hard work that goes into making these for us!

  • @noahbrown292
    @noahbrown292 Před rokem +14

    Engage was developed as a 30th anniversary celebration of the series. It makes sense they would include many aspects from past games.

  • @patmullineaux1382
    @patmullineaux1382 Před rokem +1

    Please keep the podcast going. It quickly got added to the lists of podcasts I catch every week, and then quickly became one of my favorites. You guys work quite well together

  • @TymekSoad
    @TymekSoad Před rokem +8

    FFS Bob, just watch digital foundry review of Fire Emblem Engage. Better quality assets and resolution, better image quality thanks to anti-aliasing and it runs better. The game just LOOKS BETTER. You may not like the art style and it might be worse by your standards but that dosen't make this game look worse.

  • @xXZombieHunter0802Xx
    @xXZombieHunter0802Xx Před rokem +8

    This format of filming when you guys are separate is honestly genius. I watched a previous episode and it didn't register I was watching two video streams smashed together until it was almost over, so over an hour. You guys look in the same room, you face each other as if you're sitting there, the matching table and having a switch in the same spot, it does an excellent job of removing that conversational jank that happens when doing remote streams. This is a perfect way to do it.

  • @TomBresson
    @TomBresson Před rokem +3

    Love the way this was shot. Whomever had the idea to setup a duplicate set in both places, and split it down the middle, great work. Looks awesome.

  • @shadowedfate151
    @shadowedfate151 Před rokem +13

    It realllllllly hurts to hear people who dont know much about fire emblem try to critically analyze fire emblem.
    Because in alot of ways engage is a real big step in the fire embkem formula.
    No hate just commenting

    • @takeyourheart3030
      @takeyourheart3030 Před rokem +3

      And it’s annoying for new fans to hear old fans saying that new fans don’t have a right to criticize a game because they haven’t played 15 other games in the series.
      The other games don’t appeal to us, going battle to battle to battle feels boring and soulless without something of substance to hold them together. That’s why 3H was so much more popular with so many more people, because the story and characters made the battles meaningful. Playing older FE games and not liking them either won’t suddenly make me like Engage more.
      The fact is, it’s missing huge things that 3H had that made 3H so enjoyable to so many people, and those people are not going to enjoy Engage as much because that stuff is missing. Playing older games that also don’t have that stuff isn’t going to change anything. People who liked 3H are allowed to criticize Engage for missing things they liked in 3H. You’re allowed to like Engage for the same reasons we don’t.

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 Před rokem

      @@takeyourheart3030
      The fact that Engage has a hub world and exploration despite having all of the functions of the gba games is a sign that Three Houses will be more like the norm for Fire Emblem going forward.

    • @sakutaro3musik486
      @sakutaro3musik486 Před rokem

      Agree, they should ginish the Game or atleast be close to The end but he is arround Chapter 5 I guess.
      Also while I prefer 3 houses I don't think that we are missing a Lot of social sim stuff. We have actually more then in 3 houses aside of teatime. Or Maybe I'm missing something.

    • @seanmaddex4104
      @seanmaddex4104 Před 11 měsíci

      as a big fan of the series. I have played most through sacred stones but I hated the art style of engage and I think that the series is best when it has a strong story and characters. there is a reason path of radiance is so popular.

  • @Mite000
    @Mite000 Před rokem +16

    Shout out to Wood for wanting to clear the air about the issue last week. I noticed it at the time and it came off kind of uncomfortable, but then I figured you guys just shrugged it off. But I appreciate it a lot that Wood felt the vibe enough to want and care to address it just to be sure we're all on the same page, and as a fellow stress ball, I think that's just great :)

  • @bunnybakesstuff
    @bunnybakesstuff Před rokem +13

    I honestly really liked the last episode. I mean, I love all of them, haha. The last one just felt like 2 really close friends bickering and being salty a little over a competitive game, and I could relate because my friends and I get like this too. I really hope you guys keep making more episodes. They're supper enjoyable, and I think most of us can tell how close you two are. ❤️

  • @chauncypeppertooth9438
    @chauncypeppertooth9438 Před rokem +1

    Love watching you dudes together. Changing the CZcams logo is legend status.

  • @RojoProX
    @RojoProX Před rokem +9

    Digital Foundry literally explains why Engage looks an plays better. When you do a side by side 3H just looks so bland and stiff. I get it, a lot of people started playing FE because of 3H but engage is just a modern/classic FE. 3H was a nice departure for the series but my god I’m glad we’re back to FEs roots.

    • @MFillmore
      @MFillmore Před rokem +1

      Yeah it's hilarious to me that people are claiming 3 houses looked better. Like it DEFINITELY did not and it DEFINITELY did not perform well. I think 3 houses had the good fortune of being kind of hyped up by reviewers which broadened the number of people who bought the game. But Engage on maddening is EXACTLY the experience I wanted. Challenging, frustrating, filled with BS random crits, and ultimately rewarding when you win. Engage is a masterpiece of a strategy game and I feel like so many people are totally missing that.

  • @nicholasdiaz1925
    @nicholasdiaz1925 Před rokem +5

    It's because they were made by differnt teams. Koei Tecmo mostly handled 3H and their influence is all over it. Intelligent systems handled Engage with almost none of the staffers from Koei Tecmo, and they were devoloped in tandem like you said. If the two teams switch off on each FE, I think that could be a cool way to keep the series diverse with each release.

  • @ash-wp6zt
    @ash-wp6zt Před rokem +1

    i enjoyed last episode a LOT! please don’t stop these, this is the only podcast i watch and i always look forward to it coming out!

  • @locoman7
    @locoman7 Před rokem +1

    Keep this podcast going!
    Also, are you guys going to do in-person podcasts mostly or this split screen stuff?

  • @The_Nintendork
    @The_Nintendork Před rokem +14

    They are both good, they each aren’t perfect, but they are great entries. FE3H social sim aspect is my main complaint about the game, as it does take me out of the flow, and made it harder for me to want to keep moving through the chapters. I took a long break from FE3H, only to finish up the last 8-10 chapters in Dec/Jan before FEE came out. I couldn’t put down FEE, finished by the 2nd Saturday after release. I think FEE is really going to be seen as that perfect point for newcomers to jump into the series and give them snapshots into the older games to entice them to want to play them. (Though a lot of those games are cost prohibitive at this point)
    FEE was super enjoyable and the only other “step back” is that I would have liked the Somniel to be more important overall like Garrett Mach was, and I do think a couple of the moments in the plot needed some work, but overall I’d say FE3H and FEE are very much both great games, and neither is perfect, but because they do have some of differences and the majority of the people i see not liking FEE call out the Persona-like limitations being the thing they didn’t like.

    • @MFillmore
      @MFillmore Před rokem +8

      I just think that a lot of casual players and gamer reviewers are playing on normal with no permadeath. And that's really not allowing the combat and the systems in the game to shine. I've seen people play through the game like that not knowing what second seals do. I've seen people play like that who didn't know that units could pick up profficiencies from emblem rings. And its because normal is too easy, so they aren't required to incentivized to use half the systems that exist.

    • @NerdMiGerd
      @NerdMiGerd Před rokem

      @@MFillmore I’ve heard newer FE fans petition to have permadeath removed outright and it makes me want to commit actual warcrimes.

  • @cubegirl97
    @cubegirl97 Před rokem +1

    I love this podcast so much I look forward to watching every Thursday. I am a truck driver and I listen to you guys while I’m driving you literally keep me awake and engaged.

  • @sleepycauliflower5928
    @sleepycauliflower5928 Před rokem +1

    This episode was so chill and laid-back, it was perfect!

  • @isaacddestroy3674
    @isaacddestroy3674 Před rokem +3

    36:50 Just gotta throw it out there. Halo & Forza, Grounded, Ori for a time, yeah Deathloop and The other one , Hi-Fi Rush. So yeah you’re basically right about Xbox’s exclusive. But, they didn’t let go of half of the Halo Dev team. They let go of 30 people. 15 of which were visual effects guys and the other 15 was roughly half of the campaign developers. Huge difference in those two things 😂

  • @themecherry7247
    @themecherry7247 Před rokem

    I'm really impressed that you were able to clip a conversation with yourself this well.

  • @GoldChocobo77
    @GoldChocobo77 Před rokem +8

    About Engage, I think they went so much back to their roots for their hardcore fans and maybe see if there was still interest for that. There fan base definitely is divided, not everyone liked the sims aspect of 3H and just wanted to fight. So either they find a middle ground that works even better than 3H, or they will have to have 2 kinda games lile Persona and Shin Megami Tensei do

    • @cartergreen2309
      @cartergreen2309 Před rokem +3

      Based on reviews they should probably just go back to 3 Houses style but I would be good with a middle ground (and a new writer for dialogue)

    • @westonmeyer3110
      @westonmeyer3110 Před rokem +2

      This is just an anniversary game. The next game won’t be anything like this apart from the better battle gameplay and presentation.

    • @TheMaestroMizerous
      @TheMaestroMizerous Před 2 měsíci

      Engage 2: The Engagning.@@westonmeyer3110

  • @tillythelad
    @tillythelad Před rokem

    Hey Bob and Wood - I really enjoy this podcast! I listen to it on my commute to and from work, and I sometimes play it in the background while working (depending on the task of course!). I hope you continue making more episodes, but if not I understand. You obviously don't owe me anything haha. Just wanted to say thank you for making them!

  • @KevinAccetta
    @KevinAccetta Před rokem +13

    I'm playing through Engage alongside my brother, and first thing I said: "hey, at least it has voice acting. Unlike Pokemon" 😂

  • @jme6036
    @jme6036 Před rokem +23

    Three Houses was mostly made by Koei Tecmo not Intelligent Systems. That’s probably why it feels so different from Engage.

    • @ViolinChick5
      @ViolinChick5 Před rokem +1

      This kinda explains everything

    • @MasterStacona
      @MasterStacona Před rokem +8

      That is why three houses looks like hot garbage too.
      Engage is Awakening 2.0, but they balanced the game properly.

    • @statesminds
      @statesminds Před rokem +4

      I love 3 houses and wouldn’t mind another game like it in the future but don’t want every fire emblem to be like it. Also it doesn’t look good compared to engage lol

    • @skythz85
      @skythz85 Před rokem +1

      I've played some of the older ones in the past and didn't mind three houses too. I only felt that having 3-4 paths takes up a lot more time now that I have more real-life commitments.
      Then there are some people who probably didn't like the new aspects of the game. Me personally I don't mind them trying new things in the series once a while but I understand not everyone will like it

  • @superjuggalo99
    @superjuggalo99 Před rokem +3

    Engage was my first entrance to the series. I spent a lot of time debating and researching on if I should start with engage or 3 houses and I came to the conclusion that 3 houses was definitely not for me. I picked up engage and I've really enjoyed it. The combat has been fun, I picture it similar to that of chess but more complex. The hub world seems more optional but utilizing the different aspects of the hub world can impact the combat more than it appears on the surface

  • @dariangoodness3037
    @dariangoodness3037 Před rokem +1

    I don’t really listen to podcasts but this is the only one I listen to weekly and or fall asleep to, if a break is needed from the pod cast then take it but I really hope you guys continue it even if it’s once a month and it’s just laid back episodes

  • @prototype2118X
    @prototype2118X Před rokem +16

    You can tell you didn't play much of the game when they don't realize there's different camera angles when in battle mode.

  • @loogie_sp
    @loogie_sp Před rokem +1

    This is all I've ever wanted. I hope you guys continue because I love both of you so much

  • @SumCanadianDude
    @SumCanadianDude Před rokem

    Hey guys, I've been watching you both separately for a while and from the start of this podcast. I have greatly enjoyed every episode, you two have great charisma and your differing views give a unique perspective on the gaming industry. I hope you don't end the podcast but you both have to do what's best for each of you. Keep up the great work!

  • @matthewcortazzo2739
    @matthewcortazzo2739 Před rokem +2

    PLEASE KEEP THE PODCAST GOING! You guys have a great cadence together and are making great content. If it's too much time for you guys just go biweekly or something. Please continue this podcast

  • @Moonlighter_TV
    @Moonlighter_TV Před rokem +18

    I can see an argument for either side on this issue. I just am an old school fan and I like the game as the old school style so Engage gets me right in to the parts of the game I want to play and doesn't drag me through the talking to teenagers in a castle part I don't want to play.

    • @philipsparks6089
      @philipsparks6089 Před rokem +7

      Thats what im saying. The only area I wish the game was better is its characters. There are some good ones, but compared to previous titles they all look like pop stars that are cosplaying as heroes

    • @KevinAccetta
      @KevinAccetta Před rokem +1

      @@philipsparks6089 Dude yes. The designs all look so over the top anime lol. As well as some of their dialogue and animations. Also, the game is very much a fan of big anime boobs and boob camera angles during scenes lol.

    • @KevinAccetta
      @KevinAccetta Před rokem

      It's a bit odd that this FE has so many super young characters 🤔
      Framme, Clanne, Anna, Jean, etc.
      Anna looks like she's 10 or something lol.
      But yeah, I'm enjoying the gameplay (tho still there are some features from the newer FEs sprinkled in there that I'm not a fan of).

  • @AWKyle
    @AWKyle Před rokem

    What are you guys looking at when you do the podcast remote like this?

  • @izyish
    @izyish Před rokem

    price charting value of your collections would be a cool topic to go through. I'd be interested of the collections you guys have carried over and how they have appreciated or depreciated over time!

  • @SuperSeigerman
    @SuperSeigerman Před rokem +2

    So fun fact, three houses actually has four different paths to choose from. Not to mention the DLC which was kind of more classic Fire Emblem than three houses.

  • @Fireshot844
    @Fireshot844 Před rokem +5

    Wood… you can change the camera in battle of Fire Emblem…

  • @gilpauloabracia
    @gilpauloabracia Před rokem +10

    While i love persona 5 royal, i love the way fe came back to its core roots of just story and amazing combat. Regardless if some dont like it, i love how they made Engage. I dont need my SRPG to be very dark or have deep social sim aspect all the time. Sometimes going back to simple story just works for me. I enjoy the story still and i love the combat, its still srpg to its core so its whats really important for me, im not even a hardcore fe fan but still love this.

    • @GoldenLeafsMovies
      @GoldenLeafsMovies Před rokem +1

      I'm enjoying the game and don't mind cutting back on social gameplay/simple story but the dialogue (mainly supports) and some of the character designs are really bad. Even though I don't mind the deviation every now and again, I much prefer 3H (which is funny considering 3H is the deviation in the series).

    • @gilpauloabracia
      @gilpauloabracia Před rokem

      @@GoldenLeafsMovies well i guess we all have our preferences. I'm on the same page as OJ, Player Essence, i love the game despite some of what other say as its flaws.

  • @angel1452678
    @angel1452678 Před rokem +3

    I'm absolutely delighted at how Bob literally went "DarthSnoopy this ones for you!" about his tv

  • @Ramiryoooooooooo
    @Ramiryoooooooooo Před rokem +1

    I loved that game show episode, played along the entire hour. Didn't catch any malice, just close friends being comfortable in the moment. It looked super fun, and you wood, are one of my favorite CZcamsrs to listen to. As a duo, I can listen to this podcast for hours.
    Honestly, the only thing that rubbed me the wrong way ... how could you not get the Epona song 🤣

  • @EdouardosKalimeris
    @EdouardosKalimeris Před rokem +5

    Please don't stop. We love the Podcast and both hosts. This is just internet drama. The last episode was really fun. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @GoldChocobo77
    @GoldChocobo77 Před rokem +1

    Great episode guys. Loved it. As always, I find it better when it's remote because it's only the 2 of you and flows better!

  • @__greg__
    @__greg__ Před rokem +9

    Enjoyed the episode, though re: FE Engage the word “regressed” was used *a lot* considering they haven’t played any other entries prior to 3H 😂
    To each their own 🤷🏽‍♂️⚔️

  • @albertobarrios6276
    @albertobarrios6276 Před rokem +1

    For the dual sense segment I want to add that the ps4 also had gyro but never really used it in anything. The ps5 controller also has this feature and they implemented gyro aiming while shooting in horizon the same way you use it to shoot arrows in breath of the wild. I'm not sure for other games as I only checked horizon

  • @sedasauce5030
    @sedasauce5030 Před rokem

    i rarely take the time comment much but this podcast is perfect for me. i personally like the competitive games you guys try playing on the podcast like guessing the video game noise so having one of those every once in awhile is fun.

  • @whiteiswong
    @whiteiswong Před rokem +2

    There are 4 paths in 3 Houses. Pick Edelgard's house, then side with the Church right before the time skip.

  • @williamperez4393
    @williamperez4393 Před rokem

    I noticed it but it felt more real and relatable and gave the podcast more life and character, i love this podcast and hope it never ends, you guys are so fun to watch together ;~;

  • @charliefen
    @charliefen Před rokem

    I love you both and I want you to keep doing this even in like your 80s (can you imagine an old Wood and Bob debating these things?) 😂 I was a little concerned with the last episode, only because I wasn’t sure if it was an indicator that Wood was struggling, as I know he has been recently. Though watching the bonus episode after put that at ease! ❤

  • @IanKsblvrd
    @IanKsblvrd Před rokem +1

    I think that the last game with the sounds you did was a great fun for many to watch. You could do more like this. Maybe the next will be with music themes. But you will have to put more platforms of the gaming history as for example Amiga games. I challenge you 😄

  • @DragonHeart613
    @DragonHeart613 Před rokem

    Great to see Wood is feeling much better. Hope the time off from YT & Twitch has really helped him recharge mentally. Always put your health first. Stay safe & stay positive BeatEmUps✌️

  • @hatorihanzoii7447
    @hatorihanzoii7447 Před rokem

    You can use 1.2 control scheme on Goldeneye and use the DPAD to move and the stick to look on the original game
    left hand on left prong right hand on middle prong, very similar to modern controls
    It really shocks me that not many people knew this

  • @ryanmuller4996
    @ryanmuller4996 Před rokem +1

    We love you guys! This is the best podcast ever! Don't stop!

  • @allen2reckless676
    @allen2reckless676 Před rokem +2

    17:30 they did pick and choose which to regress my guy they did. They chose to regress the amount of time it takes to get from one chapter to the next.

  • @huranku98
    @huranku98 Před rokem +2

    Never stop this podcast.

  • @askapk
    @askapk Před rokem +1

    I actually appreciate that you guys address the comment section. Feels very satisfying for those of us who get invested. Feels like closing a chapter. Not addressing it would have driven me crazy. Lol. But honestly... it was just funny how it ended last time because you were both twitching and twerking.

  • @ViolinChick5
    @ViolinChick5 Před rokem

    Wood, if you want to see a good use of the Dual Sense controller, you should play Ghostwire Tokyo. It’s the most impressive use of the controller I’ve experienced since Astro’s Playroom. In the game, your character is basically possessed by another person’s spirit. What’s awesome is that that spirit talk solely thru the controller’s speaker & they’ve added some kind of filter to make it sound more like it’s coming from inside your head. Hard to explain but super cool. The devs also did an amazing job programming the haptics to mimic rainfall, footsteps, enemy fire, etc. It’s been an extremely immersive experience. Bonus: you can pet all the animals in game.

  • @stirstixburke
    @stirstixburke Před rokem

    I think isometric is the word Wood was looking for for when talking about the view in Fire Emblem

  • @ThePhil-Osopher
    @ThePhil-Osopher Před rokem

    I definitely look forward to this podcast as I did with the Wood and Eric podcast, I’d be bummed if both of them got canceled.

  • @alexmitchell5339
    @alexmitchell5339 Před rokem +1

    You can fix the Goldeneye controls in 30 seconds (swap the sticks, change the up/down invert) to make it control like a modern day FPS. This was known and talked about on the day it came out so I'm surprised Bob hadn't seen it. Isn't he on Twitter 24 hours a day?

  • @nekkeyamcgee6012
    @nekkeyamcgee6012 Před rokem +1

    Please don’t stop!!! I enjoyed all of the episodes and simply saw two competitive friends. Some people are overly sensitive. I look forward to every video you guys put out.

  • @Theblueboy81
    @Theblueboy81 Před rokem +1

    Happy to see you back wood

  • @Azari_D
    @Azari_D Před rokem +8

    Okay, I love 3 Houses, and I love the Fire Emblem franchise as a whole. While I enjoyed the monastery stuff in 3 houses, it is a DRAG to do more than one playthrough of it, and I think it's great that it's there in that game. If we want to do that social stuff, we can go back and play 3 houses and it'll always be there. Each Fire Emblem game has its own unique qualities and that's what gives them replay value imo, I keep all of the old games on original hardware and I go back and play them here and there to re-experience them or dip into some nostalgia. Fire Emblem engage to me has felt like a celebration of the whole series, and I've absolutely loved it so far, it's like a greatest hits album of my favorite video game franchise. They've taken gameplay mechanics from tons of the old games and found ways to make them all work together, they've added collections like clothes, music, and JPEGs of all the old characters as well. I think this game is an 11/10, but that's as a huge fan of the series, this game was meant to be released on the anniversary and it really comes through in the game that it's an anniversary gift to long time fans. What a freaking gem, I absolutely love the switch and I am 'stoked' that I get to have 3 houses and FE engage replayable on here for all time. I've invested heavily in having a switch collection of all the fun games on the platform, and for me, these 2 games are my centerpieces, and one does 'not' replace the other, they're so unique that they both have replay value.

  • @lukeshioshio
    @lukeshioshio Před rokem +2

    It was just funny bickering, honestly was entertaining seeing how competitive you guys were about it

  • @elliotlubak
    @elliotlubak Před rokem

    The monastery Persona elements of Three Houses made multiple playthroughs a SLOG so it made sense to drop it and reexamine how to integrate it into future games. Appealing to core fans is an aspect that they should never lose.

  • @mrfox5117
    @mrfox5117 Před rokem +2

    Basically, the development team was completely different going from Three Houses to Engage. The leak that leaked the game back in june mentioned it was supposed to be released in 2020/2021, and it would make sense if the Somniel was added on.
    This essentially was a 30th anniversary title. The story is very much your traditional fire emblem story with a few twists. If you are an SRPG person, the higher difficulties really make it one of the best SRPGs from a gameplay standpoint.
    If you like three houses, it can be hard to understand this, but this game's job is to familiarize you with the past and reign things back in because Three Houses deviated too far.
    Gameplay wise, Three Houses was fine, but it experimented so much that it really muddied the identity of the series. Like the game was balanced horribly and gave you too many options.
    Literally, all the devs have to do is get the Three Houses scenario writer, keep things to one route ( if you played all of three houses, the multiple route shtick was its biggest problem), and design the maps the way the did engage. You easily will have a 9/10 game at minimum imo

  • @Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf
    @Mysterious_Chaos_Wolf Před rokem +2

    I absolutely love engage. I’ve played every fire emblem game, but I honestly think that it’s an incredible entry point to the series as well. I do agree that the dialogue is kinda cringe, but the story makes it so much better for me. It is definitely a more traditional game, especially compared to three houses. I like both games, but I have to admit that I prefer engage.

  • @adamkc
    @adamkc Před rokem

    Some pls clip what wood said hahaha 29:37 great episodes as always guys

  • @goosepapoose8666
    @goosepapoose8666 Před rokem +2

    You guys need to have a valid and working ruleset established at the start for games if youre going to bet money. Also get real buzzers.
    That's all I took from the episode.

  • @charliefen
    @charliefen Před rokem +1

    Another game that just came out ‘exclusive’ for Xbox and also on Steam is Inkulinati, which is brilliant! I love the fighting style, it is an indie studio, and is in Gamepass. I love the art style, which is from Medieval books. You can even be a cat bishop and fight a snail 😂 You should try it out!

  • @LeanneMustafa
    @LeanneMustafa Před rokem

    42:14 woah! Wood called it. The direct went live within 9 days like he said :0

  • @jaKobus914
    @jaKobus914 Před rokem

    These will forever be my favorite type of episodes, no Scoot, no Hannah, no Kim just you two talking about video game stuff, don’t get me wrong I think episodes with those guys are fine but these are where you guys shine!

  • @willnorthurup6811
    @willnorthurup6811 Před rokem +9

    I really hope Wood is doing okay and doesn't take all the rude comments to heart! He and Bob seem like genuine friends and sometimes friends disagree people! Hugs to Wood!

  • @connorh.2913
    @connorh.2913 Před rokem

    Friends have moments. If you don’t then you can never really challenge your friendship. The people that were bickering about that moment are children. I personally didn’t even feel bothered by it. Obviously do what you want and need to boys, but I will always listen and watch this beautiful podcast that I have grown so attached to. I literally have time cut out of my Thursday to sit and watch these podcast episodes. Love you both and keep up the great work!

  • @deathmaw4534
    @deathmaw4534 Před rokem +1

    Just starting this episode I didn't even realize there was a whole thing with the argument in the last episode >.< I didn't even think much of it when it happened, just friends arguing over a game, it happens, surprised it had to be addressed >

  • @rodolforuiz663
    @rodolforuiz663 Před rokem +1

    What I will say about this, I think that fire emblem engage is made not only for hardcore fire emblem fans, but also people who play fire emblem heroes. The game feels like a great stepping stone to getting those people into The switch ecosystem or mainline fire emblem

  • @Tony-nw1xd
    @Tony-nw1xd Před rokem

    I love your podcast you guys rock! I thought the last podcast was entertaining nothing like those comments. I've been wanting to subscribe to your Patreon for a while now but now I have to! I gotta hear about woods swearing in ceremony

  • @blazehawk3410
    @blazehawk3410 Před rokem +1

    Bobs right you don't owe anyone a apology awesome podcast have a awsome day wood bob

  • @marz7835
    @marz7835 Před rokem +1

    Wood called it, 9 days till next Nintendo Direct announcement!!! :D

  • @erisapparent2697
    @erisapparent2697 Před rokem +1

    Honestly, love that Wood busted out the Beyonce Hair Fan™ for this episode.

  • @MasterStacona
    @MasterStacona Před rokem +1

    fire emblem engage camera the more zoomed in view looks a little more out than top down, the zoomed out view goes into top down mode which is more classic fire emblem style

  • @pmlabowicz3903
    @pmlabowicz3903 Před rokem

    Goldeneye on Xbox game pass controls like a modern shooter, left stick is all movement and right stick is all camera, and right trigger is shoot. Idk if we tweaked the controls or not but it feels amazing compared to the original N64 movement

  • @jenergy105
    @jenergy105 Před rokem +1

    I loved that Engage puts you right into the battle and feels like a love letter to the older games. It's a game I can pick up and play for 30 min and go about my day. The only thing that would have made me happier is if they reintroduced the romance mechanic in Awakening. It's kind of strange (and seems a little unfair) to hear their review of the game when Wood is clearly still very early in the game and Wulff hasn't touched it at all and basing it off trailers...just my 2 cents.

  • @_DazedDragon
    @_DazedDragon Před rokem +1

    Great content as always!