So I've Finally Played... Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
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Anakin's Betrayal by John Williams
An Honest Mistake by The Bravery (Superdiscount Remix)
The level of maturity in deconstructing what is a really underwhelming and disappointing story, whilst acknowledging that there's not much the writers could have done in that situation, is the exact reason you stand out on this platform. Shortcomings and issues with games are never usually simple, and going the extra mile to find out just what went awry with the story was definitely worth it.
Revo Clockwork Well said
Very well done review.
Stop spamming and delete your channel
I do agree with this, yet the original story from the reveal trailer was supposed to be Iden being a super loyal Imperial all the way through to the First Order l. I was disappointed after realizing when I finished the campaign, it was false advertisement. They literally changed everything in the story and made it into a typical rebellion movie. I wanted an all Imperial story. But I guess that'll never happen soon. And the expansion for the campaign was even worse and just ended without any continuation after Iden's death. It could've continued. But it didn't. Left me even more disappointed and thinking there will be no more singleplayer content, whether it be campaign or not. Sure, Arcade gets more maps with every season content drop, but we need more than maps. We need game modes, larger battles, even Galactic Conquest. I want to stop playing this game and give up. But there's still content being added. But it's slow and it's only being implemented in small or half portions, not making it better at all. I just dont know anymore, but I really do want this game to get better.
They very much had a chance to write a different story that made more sense, they just decided to go with the happy ending one. Boring as fuck.
This title can't be real... This is the Raycevick channel, yes? I must be in the wrong place... EXCUSE ME , SIR! Are you saying that you, Raycevick, have finally played Star Wars Battlefront 2?? Well I'm excited to see what you thought of the Space Battles and Galactic Conquest from 2005 because they were pre- OH GAWD NO IT'S THE ONE FROM 2017
ABANDON SHIP! RETREAT! FALL BACK MEN! THE DAY IS LOST!
Ikr?! SWBII (2017) is so trash when compared to SWBII (2005)
Hey there Act Man
Oh man the good old days, playing battlefront 2 split screen with my friends on the ps2.. I was only 9 at the time but i still remember purchasing that game, had to sweet talk the cashier in order for her to let me buy it.
.. "it's the Act Man here"...
+PeskyRex Not really but its your opinion
"Battlefront 2 isn't a bad game, it's just a depressing game” NO TRUER WORDS HAVE EVER BEEN SPOKEN!
Yep
I agree. In a sick and twisted way, I kinda _wanted_ to like Battlefront II. I admit, I'm not the biggest fan of Star Wars but I'm easily impressed and try my best to keep an open mind.
I don't have a next-gen console, but judging by the footage I've seen regarding the game, it does look kinda interesting.
However, the lackluster single-player content and misguided progression (and controversial loot system) in the multiplayer kinda turn me away.
Matthew Cool yea even they removed P2W loot boxes, I just feel like i can never go back to it knowing that they even tried it in the first place, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
@@SamliLamli i bought the game thinking that i could enjoy huge single player battles with the arcade mode like in the old battlefront. I can't believe i was so wrong :(
yep
WHAT, a gaming youtuber who actually analyzes the gameplay?
Nah, just another proof that life is a simulation.
videomotors, What if I told you you are a shit? 🤔
@Ragnar Skarpsvärd what if I told you I pee shit?
@@-hasamastersdegreeinwumbol8565 what if I told you, you may want to see a doctor?
@@tincano-beans2114 what if I told you, I already have.
this comment section just written itself a song.
That ending. Now you making me count the minutes to the next video. The torture. Just want to thank you for the awesome series you have been running. I started watching your videos when you did the Max Payne games... never looked back. So much good editing/sound and content. Keep it up. Raycevick
What game is he alluding to?
I wish I knew bud, I wish I knew....
B U R N O U T T I M E
I’ve been waiting for another “so I’ve finally played” for a long time. They’re always fantastic.
Mr. Cheesedoodles you gotta wait until he plays them
Shriv and lando were the best part of the campaign, "If I die here, I'm glad you will too." "Well thank you, buddy". "Hey Shriv I hope you make it back from this incredibly dangerous mission, thank you Del your friendship means everything to me."
"Remember, I helped to liberate this place."
"That would explain why the Empire is still here."
Raycevick:17 minute essay with pretty much every information on it and quality over quantity over all
Cleanpricegaming:20 minutes of just mocking the game with the same opinion all over again for attention
*YOUR THE* 🐐
Don't you mean ''quality over quantity''?
@Lassi Kinnunen its 20 bucks cause the gaming experience is so grindy and bad that you need to pay for it to either be a match for other players or progress enough before you get so tired of it you switch to another game. To me that means might as well save my $20 for a game that's worth it.
Goat?
Bleat
And cleanprince can't even write a decent essay. They all sound like a a d- college rejects.
at the end of the campaign Iden calls herself "Iden Skywalker" and everyone claps
Everyone cringed and ranted about how stupid that was*
Seriously there’s this video showing a movie theater where the whole audience was like “NO, DONT DO IT! DONT YOU DARE!”
For real?
@@benjapizarro981 No
@@benjapizarro981 czcams.com/video/nYkAgLQ_0eU/video.html
@@handlessuck589 This is pure gold. Thank you very much.
What I love about your critical reviews on games is how you're three-dimensional. Even in controversial games like Battlefront II, you manage to show a level of praise in certain aspects of the game, give your critiques of it's flaws, and even go in-depth analysis on the cause of the game's said flaws. The best part is how you do this all together with a smooth, coherent narration, and a subtle sense of humor.
Dang! Have never seen any of your videos, but that was a great review. Well done.
You should check out his other reviews. His fantastic voice and comprehensive videos are great content.
I envy you, I rewatch his videos constantly
Raycevick is wanna of the best content creatures. You should definitely check out his other stuff
There's not many channels on this topic with this quality.
Will do guys, immediately subbed :)
14:59 that has got to be the deepest cutting yet most respectful roast I ever heard
“I understand its not in a companies interest to preserve games”
Never have i been more Furious at the truth.
they don’t have to all at all, but god damnit they should. You might want those games one day. Say for a remaster collection or a 4K port or VR or whatever.
But no throw out the code and burn the assets as soon as possible. worked so well for silent hill Hd collection didnt it?
I agree with you 100 percent. There's plenty of older games that I missed out on that I want to play, but have since been dropped hard by their former owners.
Back in the 90s a lot of Japanese studios recorded over hardrives with game data.
For example, all the original PSX Final fantasies have been lost and due to this the re-releases have had to use upscaled background images instead of original renders.
That's why I approve of the live model and microtransactions. That is what will reward companies for keeping games going
terrydrain no. It’s not. If they make a good fucking game it will sell. Battlefront 2 took a massive hit by adding shitty micro transactions
Paradox does a good job of maintaining their games, albeit at a cost.
"Have you ever played a game where the ending, single-handedly, either makes or breaks it?"
Life is Strange
You didnt say whether it made or broke it
Its really difficult to enjoy this game when u have max leveled luke and ray jumping across the map annihilating entire squads blocking every shot.
It’s funny because they were twice as op in the original Star Wars battlefront games
Never been this early to a Raycevick video, but i'm loving it!
take care mate, love your work
Nope
aww you answered my questions. thanks ray
Oh boy nothing better than getting a sense of pride and accomplishment by watching Raycevick pick apart a game.
*a sense of pride and accomplishment ;)
The meme is dead normies
@@deadshot-qz5rk I am sorry that I personally find it funny still...
deadshot 500 nope
Anyone remember the cod4 Star Wars mod?
Been thinking about it throughout this review,whenever I'd see the Mos Eisley map
The Four Horsemen is is a great game and you get that you are a good game for organization koo
The Four Horsemen o
The Four Horsemen oo i
The Sequel Trilogy excuse for the half assed story doesn't hold water. The main campaign is set over the year between Return of the Jedi and the Empire's defeat on Jakku. There was no need for Iden to defect. The Aftermath books show the Empire was crippled but still strong after Endor. She could have been with the Empire right up till the end. After the Empire falls, she could simply realize she is on the wrong side and went out into the galaxy with Del. There is no need to join the New Republic, there are other options. She could have become a bounty hunter for example, she has the skills. They even set up a good enough reason to not be on the First Order side when Del is killed so helping the Resistance get the dreadnought plans in the DLC story still would have worked.
Yeah, like after Del was killed, she could have gone on the destroyer to kill Hask, and gotten the data as revenge against the First Order. And when she died, there would be a reason for her daughter to join the resistance.
That's what dice wanted to do unfortunately Disney disagreed
Agreed, considering the game ends right at the Battle of Jakku anyway, there's no reason she needed to defect at any point.
EA and Disney having the rights to Star Wars makes me cry into my pillow every night.
That's why i hate gorge lucas for selling star wars for company who only care money , he should give the fans or a company who are willing to continue his legacy.
@@medellpr let's not pretend George wasn't in it for the money after 1983
No you don’t
Medell Wasn't George's fault the "fans" shat on him at every chance becaus of the prequels
If george had been motivated by anything other than money then maybe the prequels wouldn't have been so bad that everybody shat on them for a decade straight. Food for thought: George was treating star wars worse than disney
Burnout?!
I'd recognise that song from the soundtrack anyday.
You're finally doing a video on BURNOUT!
I recognized it about 2 notes into the song!
@@woodsrunner8 All aboard the Nostalgia Train!!
Nice to see an ACTUAL essay channel do a video on a game. Unlike CleanCuntGaming and Downward Syndrome.
those names im dying lmaooo
Got eem!
I liked your comment and then I saw you had to insult those creators. While I may not like them there’s no need to insult them, had to remove the like
@@GOGtribute Dude its CZcams comments, being high and mighty is a death sentence here.
CMONTI
Oh boo hoo it’s just a joke buddy loosen up a little.
If you could give this game one more look now that it's completely finished, I believe you'd be a lot happier
I doubt it because it still suffers from the core design issues that he didn't like about it
Man I love your reviews, I’d say “upload more!” but I don’t want you to rush perfection, because that’s what these reviews are, simply, perfection. Great work my guy.
The campaign in Battlefront 2 is an even bigger disappointment now because they crippled the story to not overwrite the movie that didn’t even bother to answer any questions
So I finally remembered to click the notification bell
09:33 Walt Williams (rephrased): "The characters have to defect because we are afraid of showing too much about the First Order ahead of Last Jedi's release".
1) Are you that poor of a writer that you can't write around such a restriction?
2) Why is your immediate instinct to include a cliché copout plot device like defection to avoid this? In a story that finally makes the bad guys the protagonists?
3) Did you and your overlords truly think that revealing some details about the First Order could in any way compromise the Last Jedi's chance to succeed at the cinemas?
4) Why was this not a selling point instead? Offering sneak peaks would boost sales. Does Disney/EA not want to make money?
The great irony here is that there was _nothing special about the First Order_. Nothing that needed concealing, they are a carbon copy of the Empire.
They compromised the integrity of their story for NOTHING. My take is that the writers are either stupid, poor storytellers or don't get Star Wars.
Forgetting the fact they likely had to make the story directly related to the movies because they've been instructed to yet couldn't tie it to anything because they weren't allowed to. Being a writer for a project so tightly controlled is nigh impossible and management is spectacularly incompetent with these things.
It's because Disney strangles any attempt at risky creative writing within the Star Wars universe. Everything has to fall in line with the status quo of their storytelling which is why the new era of Star Wars sucks.
@@samzilla567 prequels were a lot worse still. Sw died decades ago but retarded fans can't accept it
+Waking00one: If Star Wars died back in the prequels, then there wouldn't have been Pandemics Star Wars Battlefront I and II. There wouldn't have been Bioware's Knights of the Old Republic, there wouldn't have been Ravens Jedi Knight series, there wouldn't have been Republic Commando. Do you get the picture now? The prequels at least Phantom Menace and Attack of the clones were sub par however, the games of that era is what made the prequels so great.
+waking00one At least the prequals gave us good games, a CONSISTENT story and lots of brilliant memes, the sequals are just plain shit... But retarded sequel fans can't accept it (see what i did here at the end? That's how shitty you sound)
God I love how competent your videos sound. It’s such a great change of pace from the other stuff on this platform.
Keep up the great work!
If you could get past EA's bullshit practices and controversy about the game, i'm gonna be honest and say that it is actually fun to play, the graphics are awesome, the variety of game modes and ways to play make it a decent experience and a good improvement over the original Battlefront. It doesn't beat Pandemics Battlefront series in any way, but it stands out on its own as a fun game for star wars fans if you seek nothing else but serviceable Star Wars combat entertainment. But the controversy between this game and EA is what ruins its reputation on an otherwise cool game. If you want to blame someone, just blame EA for all the bullshit that is going on, not DICE. DICE is one of the best game developers back in the early 2000s and they did a good job on this game.
I agree. I'm having a blast playing it and I'm a big fan of star wars as well. They are improving the game and adding more content to it.
I just got this game. it really isn't that bad. I'm just really frustrated that there doesn't seem to be much of a population, and the lack of server browser just makes it worse. I only spent 4 bucks on the game, so I didn't lose much, but I still got my hopes up while it downloaded only to find that it takes 2 or 3 tries to find a populated game mode.
Anne Isopod lol is that what you say to people in real life when they watch a movie or play a game you don’t like? I doubt it, only on the internet can you talk shit and act tuff because someone likes a game you don’t.
@Anne Isopod sooo....you're irritated that I managed to jump off the hate train and live? Battlefront, as far as I'm concerned, has definitely redeemed itself. EA hasn't, but battlefront 2 has, ok?
-has a masters degree in wumbology how dare you have a different opinion than the REST OF THE GAMING COMMUNITY!!!! Reeeeeeeeeee
/s
16:34 I'm surprised that you didn't mention Mass Effect when answering that question. 😛
but he does kind of answer it even in regards to mass effect. the ending couldn't ruin 3 for me because i already didn't care by the time i got there and the game-play is what held up those games after the first one anyway.
For me, the ME3 ending didn't break the game. Admittedly I played it years after release, so every time I mentioned to someone "I'm playing ME3" the instant response was "the ending sucks", so I was absolutely prepared for it. Actually, I was prepared for it to be far worse than it actually was. I still love the other 31 hours of ME3 before that ending hit.
Alex G I played through all of ME3 with the benefits of Citadel, Leviathan and the Extended Cut and I was actually good with the ending. Primarily from the Foreshadowing through out the game:
“10 Billion people over here die so 20 Billion over there can live.”
“Sounds like you’ve found a little bit of Humanity EDI. Is it worth defending?”
“...to the *Death* ”
Besides, after the ending, there aren’t any absolutes because the game not telling me the Geth are dead forever means there might be something down the line that might happen.
Here’s a hint for my head Canon: *David Archer* 😉
Well he did mention "Bioshock Syndrome"
Why would he? 3's ending is of course infamous, but it didn't even come close to ruining the game for me.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
Basically the story of how battlefront went to shit. EA was shown everything they could do to recreate the magic of the battlefront series from pandemic, and they killed it
Is it possible to learn this power?
jonathan bailey Not from a Jedi
@@aidan8224 go for papa Palpatine
i do love me some plagueis !
1:30 Raycevick is a Deltron 3030 fan? Be still my heart
You get a thumbsup just for dropping some Deltron!
_♪ Positive conTACT!_
I just appreciate the fact that he takes the time to make videos instead of just slapping them together and throwing them out once a week. I get genuinely excited when I see one of his videos go up
I just want them to remaster the original Star Wars Battlefront II
at this point do you really want Disney/EA to lay their greedy hands on another Star Wars product? I'm just as happy Star Wars gets an early grave at this point. Star Wars just seems like it's too infected to be worth preserving...
Just play it on PC. I'm pretty sure you could even run it on a shitty machine from Goodwill.
Same
Me too !
Remember modern warfare remastered? At first it was cool but then microtransaction were added and EA will do the same with bf2
Walt Williams?! Damn... talk about absolute wasted potential.
And I really want Jaina to be an a game with actual passion behind it. She is a damn fine actor.
And Lord was she PASSIONATE and excited to be in the game! It came across I'm the EA presentation at that year's E3
One of the things I'm still mad about Battlefront 2 is how they let her down
No, Walt Williams, that is NOT a very good reason. That's not even an okay reason. The story was awful, she didn't "have" to defect. Everyone wanted an imperial story, they marketed the campaign as an imperial story, and then 20 minutes in they have her defect. They lied, and their reasoning is garbage. Nevermind the writing, pacing, gameplay, and overall laziness of the campaign, it was just bad.
Having the defection be the ending of the single player campaign would have been a much better idea, I'm sure. They would have had the time to show initial total dedication to the Empire and its' ideals for the first few missions, with the team seeing and learning things over time that didn't jibe with the propaganda, leading to more and more questioning of their immediate objectives, and the Empire in general. Then, when the defectors finally came to the conclusion that they had been working for the bad guys, who had been lying to them and the rest of the Galaxy all along, it would have actually made sense, and not felt forced. Hell, you could even have a SECOND, follow up single player campaign in a DLC pack to flesh out content, and show other things after the film came out and spoilers were no longer an issue
or they could modifie the disney cannon to make it cooler (And more like the EU) by haveing an imperial civil war. they already have the imperials as 2 factions anyway (those that agree with the piece treaty which become a demilitarised empire and those that don't agree and become the 1st order). a much better story for a post revenge of the sith empire is what basically happens (initially) in the EU a lack of a clear heir leads to the imperial leadership fighting a civil war over power aswell as the imperial ideology fragmenting into a whole load of different ones. This would have been interesting as an imperial, especially if you got the chose to choose which imperial faction to support (with the exception of the faction that becomes the first order) and the character you play as should die fighting off the first order as it absorbs your imperial faction into itself. much cooler and no betrayal of imperial ideas (and more reaslistic asgenerally speaking people in that situation would prefure to make what they like better over switching sides completely)
now im not a star wars fanboy. but I thought the single player was good so far. just got it for 10$.
Not to mention, The Last Jedi revealed absolutely nothing about the First Order. You can blame Lucasfilm for putting that constraint despite knowing that it won't affect that movie anyway.
The problem with SW:BF2 is that its actually not a bad game. But while I play it, I always imagine how much better it could be if €A would have included more teamplay and more stuff "like the old SWBF2" So in the end i can´t enjoy it.
@Anne Isopod teamplay has increased in BF5, but ok... They did fuck up teamplay in BF1 though.
@@levelcheap2435 They increased it sure, but increasing it from nothing isn't hard. Besides, 3 and 4 did the same thing as 5 anyway (and weren't nearly as team based as 2)
I feel the exact same way about the Division 2
I'll tell you, the new mode (Conquest-ish), which is coming in the next months, will bring fresh air in the Battlefront gameplay, because non-linear, and players will be free to attack objectives from every direction.
Battlefront 2 didn't just die *it was mURderEd*
MurderEAd
Amen to that!
That guy drives me up a wall
Love cleanprincegaming and his pretentious ass voice lmao
17 minutes of pure rayce.. HOOK IT INTO MY VEIN'S
Tayyab Hussain like youre mom
The man of acting
Into your vein's what?
7:00
And thats gonna get even worse in Battlefield V with its straight up upgrades ._.
DANNYonPC Dice is most likely to change the upgrade system before launch due to feedback from the beta
I bloody hope so :(
@@rataide99 yeah they said so, upgrades should have downsides
@Rui Ataide Oh they said the same after the Battlefront II beta, yet completely misinterpreted it.
Battlefield V agina
As someone who’s played Battlefront 2 from launch, and still occasionally play it when a monthly update happens I agree with this video. When the game came out and about 5 months after I defended this game, I kept hoping better things would come! But I’ve pretty much given up. Time after time they screw us all over, barely any content or changes have happened in 10 months. And they continue to mess things that would be fun and enjoyable up, like drop feeding the clone wars content coming out over 4-6 months!
yep that's a piece of shit game and publisher for ya! :)
Navin Singh problem I foresee with this game too is the lack of offline, the arcade is stale and boring, all of it is just “kill 200 AI on rails that are very bad” original battlefronts are still relevant because the AI and modes are fun on offline, the entire game that was online was also put in offline. At least with the second EA battlefront they let you play and see all the maps on offline, in the first game you can’t even do that.
laying in my bad eating ice cream after school + my workout and watching a video on youtube that has quality to it. I love your videos for giving me such moments. Thank you
Great video:)
So early it's only in 360p
So you've finally watched…
so new to youtube, that its a big deal.
It's strange these days to see progression in competitive multiplayer games still involving increasing 'strength' and imbalancing the game for people who have played more. It *usually* flattens out after a period of time, but in the process it eliminates the progression. Looking at Overwatch, even with lootboxes, everyone is on an even playing field both in character power and access to characters. That should be the goal of any competitive multiplayer game. It's something that I wish was part of Battlefield V's design. I'm not sure what inspired a small but clearly gameplay-impacting talent tree for every weapon. Why discourage people from using all of the different weapons with the fact that they'll have to level them up?
I personally think the 3rd person perspective is really "cool" looking visually
The maturity and depth of this dudes reviews are incredible...i must watch more. Inspirational.
We all embrace our inner casual every once in a while
I can't wait to play Respawn's new Star Wars title and also see you deconstruct it. With Titanfall 2 being a thing, I have high hopes.
Wait,isn't that one made by EA as well?
The SW Fallen:Jedi Order I mean
@@EagleEye517 ea is publisher respawn is developer
It was good
Glad I rented this one, boy that campaign was a pile of shit
As much as I loved dice, they really couldn't make a campaign.
Ever.
winlover37 that’s sad as well 😂
''Play as an Imperial for the first time in Star Wars!''
*Main character switches to Rebels 20 minutes into the game*
@@winlover37 Bad Company 1 and 2 were great campaigns, tf you mean?
@@H.E.M. your emoji usage is in parallel with your youtube content. fucking normie af, and fucking atrocious.
You open the video with Deltron and end it with a tease for Burnout? You are THE man. God bless.
As always Raycevick you deliver some of the best insight and analysis of video games I've ever seen!
Progression is no longer tied to the crate system, and hasn't been for a while. Microtransactions only give you cosmetics. Also, there are many creative ways to approach combat in Galactic Assault. It might be quite on rails for the most part, but several maps (such as Crait, Endor and even Kamino to an extent) do have multiple avenues of approach and aren't just cinematic set pieces. Other than that, yeah I agree with a good chunk of this.
I feel like a cool Era mixing mode would be Clones vs. Stormtroopers.
Also, could a Fallout series X years later be something we see in the future?
Battlefront 2 (2005) had a mission in its campaign wherein this _actually happens._ The 501st takes it pretty rough too.
The thing is, the developers have amazing talent and potential. I mean look at all the previous titles that was loved by majority...
But the higher tiers just have to ruin it.
It’s kind of incredible how much information you pack into these videos. I think you’re the only person I’ve subscribed to that I have to rewind and listen to what you’ve said in order to understand it.
Awesome work as always
Why do I like your Channel? why are you the only CZcamsr that is worth watching? Because you are honest, you put a lot of effort into literally everything and you are not only here to rant about games, because your demographic wants you too. As a 32 Year old Gamer i couldnt be happier. Thank you!
16:32 You activated my trap card! "Go on for ages about racing games"!
I'll try to keep this short, but I think there are a multitude of ways driving games can evolve. In terms of simulation, the next step is, after refining simulations, deciding properly when to and not to use it. Sometimes, simulation needs to not be the focus of the game or it goes badly wrong - the NFS Shift series is an example of trying too hard - but be too lax and you end up with horrible driving physics, like Gear Club.
Also we need better stories. In fact, as of lately, we need almost any stories at all. The Crew's sequel dropped the narrative entirely, completely losing my money, Forza Horizon's campaign gets drearier as time goes by (at least the first one had characters), Grid 2 was the best of Codemasters storytelling, and then Autosport ditched it, too. We haven't even had a recent Driver game. The rest are essentially Forza Motorsport, Gran Turismo or 'realistic' portrayals of real championships, like F1 games or whichever rally game comes up next (also Gravel was a disaster).
I'm so desperate, I'm writing a driving game storyline and character bios just to prove it can be done.
I stumble upon your critic and it brought me back some ideas about a concept for a racing game I had many years ago. I had downloaded the beta of a game called Blur made by Bizarre Creations (the studio behind what I consider to be the best racing series of all time: Project Gotham Racing). Blur was a kind of "real" Mario-kart-like; an online racing game with "real" cars (very arcade in physics though) that could use weapons.
The game was fun but I didn't end up buying it. The graphical style was a bit off with too many neon lights and the gameplay too much "arcarde". The weapons were poorly thought with simply boosts and torpedoes. The worst were the tracks which were unimaginative and ugly. And yet, despite all those flaws, the game was still good to play.
It made me think of what a true "real Mario-Kart" could be like. A game with real-life cars and their physics that uses "weapons" to gain (or make lose) advantages during the race. The classic banana skin from Mario Kart could be changed into various weapons that change the road (gravels, snow, ice) for a while; the shell could make a tire flat for some time, etc. Obviously, some tracks should change dynamically. But the main intention should remain that the player have to adapt his driving style realistically while trying to win the race. The Project Gotham Racing series found that perfect spot that no other driving game I've played ever touched where you had to "feel" the car. It would be an Urban Rally game with real cars and weapons. If you add some F1 team management to it (to make the menus more interesting lol), some good mods (like a Rocket League with real cars), some good musics and of course, a good story.
I'm ready to help but I know nothing about making games.
@@foenixlord Wow, we'd be at loggerheads because I actually loved Blur when it came out, see it as the definitive 'real Mario-Kart' and, if I had the money, would buy the license to the name for games and make the sequel xD
No, but, seriously, yeah, I understand what you're saying, but I think you end up either with a Wacky Racers style game but with real cars or you use big pieces of weaponry if you try for a 'real Mario-Kart', and I'm not keen on either of those options. The real weaponry idea leads too neatly to Carmageddon for my liking, and the other is... just the Mario Kart 8 Mercedes DLC. I can definitely see where you're coming from, though. It would be interesting to try that again, but, personally, I'd feel too sacreligious not just making Blur 2.
I played some blur on my PS3! Shame it was from the library.
Stories being a thing in driving games was the worst thing that could have happened to them.
@@waking00one Can you explain? I don't share your opinion and I'd like to understand it.
I honestly love driving stories: it makes replaying games like The Run or Driver: San Francisco more entertaining, personally, than games with superior handling like Project Gotham or Forza Motorsport. The grind to get better stuff isn't worth it if my point is to just get there. I, personally, need motivation. I had Forza Horizon 2 delete all its save data on my Xbox One due to some memory issue, and I was so unmotivated to replay it again that I stopped after the first showcase.
The video should be called:
"So I shouldn't have played... Star Wars: Battlefront II (2017)"
How to fix the campaign:
Vardos isn't the defecting point. It's the first tiny kernel of doubt in Iden's mind about the Empire.
After Vardos, Inferno Squad continue to do covert missions, each one more dangerous than the last. There's a slowly growing sense of unease and reluctance in every member of the squad, but Iden is the one who convinces them to push on. At this point, her hatred of the Rebels and commitment to the Empire is what fuels her.
These missions become less and less about Imperial stability, and more and more about simple fear tactics and sadistic consequences for anyone who even considers defying the Empire.
After 5 or 6 missions post-Vardos, Del finally confronts Admiral Versio about the brutal and unnecessary tactics the Empire has taken to lately. In response to this glint of defiance, Admiral Versio has Del imprisoned in a maximum security detention center that's off the records because of its inhumane treatment of prisoners. Just to demonstrate his zero-tolerance for rebelling of any kind and make an example of potential defectors, Admiral Versio then reassigns Iden and Hask to that facility, specifically the wing in which Del is kept so they can see and hear his tortured agony.
At this point, Admiral Versio has revealed himself for the unlikeable prick he is, and after much deliberation, Iden and Hask decide to break Del out. They cause a prison riot (reluctantly working with Rebel captives in the process) and are about to escape with Del when Versio himself stops their progress. Surrounded by stormtroopers, and the admiral preparing to order them executed, all seems lost for Inferno Squad when suddenly, a _LIGHTSABER_ flies through the air and cuts through the stormtroopers. the weapon arcs back and flies into the gloved hand of Luke Motherfucking Skywalker.
This section has you alternating playing as Luke and each member of Inferno Squad, each one helping the other fight their way out. The mission culminates in a final duel between a vibroblade-wielding Garrick Versio and Iden using Luke's saber, the latter giving it to her with a warning to use it wisely, as it can be an instrument of death, or a symbol of hope. When Garrick is disarmed and at Iden's mercy, he asks that she kill him as he will be disgraced in the eyes of the Empire. Iden refuses to kill him, but she makes several precise strikes to his body that cut off his badges and insignia without harming him, bookending by saying to him "Now you are a disgrace only to yourself".
It's later revealed that the captives Iden freed had activated a distress beacon that Skywalker had answered. It is right here, after the Rebels and Del have been rescued, after Inferno Squad defied the Empire, and after they were all saved by a Jedi Knight, that Iden, Hask, and Del decide....
to NOT join the Rebellion. As far as they're concerned, boths sides have caused them pain and suffering, and they want no part in any of it. They elect to take the _Corvus_ into the edges of the Unknown Regions where they won't be found and can lead a peaceful life.
EPILOGUE: Garrick Versio is in a dark room, his arms and legs bound to a metal torture bed. In the shadows, a sneering and raspy voice whispers to him, "It is ironic, is it not? You dedicate your very life to an Empire sinking in a sea of stars and planets bubbling with defiance, and in the end, you are the only one to float while all else drowns around you". An indistinguishable form emerges from the corner, it's body seeming to gather the surrounding darkness towards it. It continues, "Make no mistake, Versio. Your daughter was correct in her evaluation of you, a disgrace. But...you are not entirely without use, however minuscule it may be". Versio manages to choke out the words "what do you want from me?". The figure at last steps into the light, and reveals itself as the unmistakable face of Supreme Leader Snoke. He snarls the words into Garrick's bloodied face: "Your daughter is of great importance to me. I want you to find her, and bring her to me. She will serve the First Order, or she will suffer". In spite of the malevolent monster's demands, Garrick's love for his daughter will not let him betray Iden to Snoke, regardless of what she did to him and his Empire. "Do your own dirty work, scum", he spits in Snoke's face. Snoke is unphased by this remark, and he simply states, "I intend to, Versio. But first, I believe both your use and my patience is at it's end now." With that, Snoke reaches out with the Force and without hesitation, implodes Garrick's skull into itself, spraying blood, skull fragments, and brain matter onto the leader's robe. Not seeming to notice this, Snoke activates a nearby holoprojector, and the flickering image of a black hooded figure comes into focus. Snoke utters these final words as we cut to credits: "Kylo Ren, I have an assignment for you...."
Anyway, that's how I'D do it.
That's actually pretty good!
I'm not sure about *all* of it, but it's more interesting than what we got, eh?
Anything is better than the original campaign at this point.
The "I win" kits is why I bailed out of Battelfield way back in version 2. (I know this is SWBF, but same basic concept.) I don't hear people talk about it much, but you hit it right on the head in this video. When players use *the exact same weapon* but the more experienced player gets a better version, that's game - breaking for me. Different weapons with different abilities, fine. But if we both use the same gun, it should be the same gun. And Dice has always had this differential where he who started grinding first wins. Making it impossible to know if you're up against somebody with an I-win kit.
As someone who has put over a month into this game, as someone who has reached max level in every unit aside from hero ships, I can without a doubt say that the star card system is unfair to new players, and favors the veterans. For a franchise that puts so much emphasis on "Bringing balance to the Force" the star cards seem to force an unbalanced competition between new and old players
I dont care what anyone says about the game, the dog fighting in the starfighter assault gamemode is the most fun ive ever had dog fighting in a video game
This is why we need a fully-fledged Arcade mode.
Nice use of Deltron 3030's Positive Contact :) Battlefront 2 is a game I'm only tangentially familiar with so it was nice to see someone take a deeper, more calm look into.
My dad jams this game almost everyday. He loved star wars bf2 (pandemic), but he's just as addicted to the new one and if you count the other DICE star wars title, he's been playing the game for 3 years now. To answer the question of longetivity. There are hardcore players out there
Great pick using Deltron music
You would have loved Capital Supremacy. A non-linear version of Galactic Assault, and promotes lots of players expression
It would be interesting to see an update video since the game has changed quite a bit since this video was made.
Your videos are always the best, with solid reasoning and examples. Literally a joy to watch your videos. I look forward to them. And you wont ever have enough probably.
You don´t know how happy i am to see someone actually used Deltron 3030 on a youtube video like this. Amazing.
yup ...I love Del the funkee homosapien too ...his early stuff his best
god don't remind me of hunt the truth and how it was almost entirely abandoned for h5's awful direction.
Got this for 12£ definitely played my money's worth , hell they even adding a new game mode so I'll give it another go at some point
I would of preferred it if iden would of stayed with the empire but instead of showing the empire as the evil side they could of showed them helping civilians
The Empire doesn't do that.
@@DCGMatthew1 it does, but primarily humans.
@@DCGMatthew1 and core systems above the rest
@@zab6124 But what the Empire was currently doing, they wouldn't help civilians.
@Peace Unreal I wanted the same,but when I saw the scene in which she turns to the Rebels I was like:"There goes my last bit of trust for EA,just when I tought they couldn't be any more incompetent by ruining the game"
this game is beautiful. Just got back into it recently. It blew my mind how much the game has changed. I love it.
Have to comment because time and time again you come out with videos that articulate our frustrations with modern games in such an interesting and honest way. Love the work!
8:00 "Gems of our past being left behind..." *Flashes the words SPIES VS. MERCS on screen*
PLEASE DO A SPLINTER CELL SPIES VS. MERCS VIDEO
Is your fov high enough?
Mamma mia.....Burnout Revenge's Ost
The production quality of your videos are unlike anything else I've seen on CZcams when it comes to gaming. Love the depth and respect shown for gaming as an art form. Incredible work as always
When it first can out I got bored quick, but the last couple months after getting sick of BF1 and COD WW2 I have been grinding it to no end. The constant updates have brought me back
360p still, oooof. Gonna get back to it later. Dice games must be watched in HD at least
Dude i got this game for free, asides from Starfighter assault i really wish i hadn't
*besides
Nope: Aside - a remark that is not directly related to the main topic of discussion.
That's because it's made by Criterion as opposed to the rest of the game
Just do war thunder instead much better ww2 dogfighting game than the new star wars.
The game got way better
So it captures the spirit of Star Wars movies on an even deeper level. No one fights with any idea of what tactics are.
Battlefront II is better now. Much new content, no more pay to win, and a new PVE mode.
16:30, its called mass effect 3
an ending that pulls the seams apart and reveals how big a mess the development was for that whole game
Would highly recommend Movie Battles II. It's by far the best Star Wars multiplayer game out there and shits all over the Battlefront franchise honestly.
It is alright....not my favorite star wars game but it is alright
Easily
Does it have space battles? No, then I dont like it
Raycevick, if you think that BF2 id a bad example of a Star Wars multiplayer experience, please do yourself a favor and play Movie Battles 2, a mod for Jedi Academy. Its one of the best multiplayer, Fan-Made mods related to Starwars that ive ever seen. It would make a great video for you to make, and I highly reccommend you check it out. Because I personally think not only you would enjoy it, but a lot of Star Wars fans need a light when it comes to a fun multiplayer experience. And I think that mod is just that
this
When "An Honest Mistake" started playing at the end my first thought was Burnout: Revenge one of my all time favourite racing games and I just thought "PLEASE TELL ME HE'S DOING A VIDEO ON IT" and I just watched it and dude you've got my nostalgia through the roof. I Hope they remake Revenge. No other Burnout game has topped it in my opinion.
Omg I finally found someone who presents sound logic on this game, I cannot sum up how much I love this video. You have just earned a new subscriber and I cannot wait to see what else I watch from you 👌🤗
Might I also mention how I love the unbiased attitude of this video, it’s really refreshing to hear this from another point of view of someone who isn’t really a Star Wars fan, it’s a really nice change than what I’m used to seeing, if you see this comment I would like to personally thank you for this video and keep up the good work 👍👍
Appreciate the kind words, Crimson.
Could've done a spec ops the line.
you must be new here because he did that a log time agao
@@Harbinger1able I said that to the game, I seen raycevick review it so, sorry for the misunderstanding!
Good video but I’m really subscribing because you used a Deltron song.
Do what I’ve been saying for years
REMASTER THE ORIGINAL BATTLEFRONT 2
Are you crazy?!?!that means less profits for EA and more happiness for the SW fanbase especially!!
-said every EA developer reading your comment
Positive Contact Instrumental = Instant thumbs up. Great work, as always.
16:32 To the last questions, I answer Mass Effect 3.
Still can't get over it. Still Can't.
its a decent game..