PS4 Blue Light of Death - APU reball from begin to end
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2015
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And where do thermopads on ram memory from the other side? NOOB! An excellent example of how not to repair modern electronics!
BTW another example por flip-chip mounting technology. Same crap like X360 and little PS3.
In those cases, reballing as well as heating itself were used to melt the solder and gave a similar effect.
In most cases, soldering only a new CPU with permanent solder under the silicon system gives a decent result of the repair for a long period.
High temperature and high electrical current on the nano contacts cause faster degradation of the solder between the silicon wafer system and the BGA housing.
The best way to prevent such effects is to limit the power emitted by a single silicon system to about 80-100W. So packing the CPU and GPU into one system separating about 140-200W into a weakly entertained housing with inefficient cooling is a dead end when it comes to durability. Unless the silicon core for the BGA housing starts to mount as INTEL does. Wires! : D
Of course, the minute stiffness of fixing the MOBO motherboard also causes it to deform under the influence of poorly received heat from the CPU.
jedrula77 I think you are a NOOB yourself and never repaired a ps4! The thermal pads for the RAM chips are Just under the metal housing plate, look at 5:05 and 36:40....You actually do not see them. And about causes, the problem has been caused by manufactoring process causing cold colder joints.... Hope to Get a reaction from you.
If you look at the video attentively you'll see all thermal pads are still where they should be.
jedrula77 NR12 es el novato.
Where do guitar pick for? NOOB! PS4 doesn't have strings.
05:22, I can see exactly that the termpads were on emi shield and 1 on RAM module.
However, when mounting, you can not see them glued to RAM again. Earlier, it was obvious that they were already badly stuck in the factory.
New thermal pads should be used!
The old ones are deformed-flattened, and that they do not return to the original shape and no longer adhere as originally.
They are used once as a thermally conductive paste.
They can be slightly formed and glued to thermal paste but not in such professional electronic workshops;)
Such one RAM module, not cooled properly, very quickly can cause system suspensions. And it will be damaged in the long term.
Regards PR0 professionals;)
I am also an electronics engineer and this video is spot on, I could not have done any better my self. Well done
Watching this puts me in absolute awe of the minds that went behind creating circuit boards. How electricity is the blood that brings life to a web of little paths that lead to different "chips" and "transistors," etc. Like, in those memory chips, is it just 0's and 1's that write themselves in there? How is it that those blocks can store data.
Idk, this stuff just blows my mind
yes 00= 0, 01 = 1, 10=2, 11=3.
Yeah. Clever minds those are.
been doing console and pc repairs for friends and family, I've ran into a few instances where I couldn't help them because of the need for a reball or sauder. Found your video to be educational. hoping with time and saved funds I'll be able to get the tools and knowledge I need to expand my ability to repair and put a smile on a client's face. :)
These videos are so good. I love the way you shoot them. Everything is so visible.
Dear Journal, week 15, i am still watching as he spreads more thermal paste on the apu, there are no signs of stopping.
LOL
F....NG FASCINATING!! Never seen anything like this before. Amazing!
I can only imagine the equipment and the amount of time learning how to do this is somehow worth it.
Apart from actual practise, the learning part consist mostly of searching for “bga hobbyist” then skip all the articles saying that you can’t do it, then you end up watching videos like these, even one that is re-balling the chip with pliers showing that although difficult and lots of work and things that can go wrong, some people can do it. Hey! You watched this video! I am sure you could do it too with a bit of practice.
Thank you so much for the excellent silence among the entire video, and you are a pro! It's sad that so many people just trow away the console and buy a new one instead to try to fix it.
Thanks! This was fun to watch. I used to run SMT machines building pc boards for CompuServe back in the 90's.
We just started using BGA chips when the company went belly up.
That was cool seeing those machines back in use for this.
Yeah, i used to be in SMT dept too, we need to use x ray tech to inspect those after ovening
that amount of thermal paste is just right!... for 5 PS4s.
+jmcwd reported think 2-3 times before you talk
***** i said to him "reported,think 2-3 times before you talk" i meant i reported him and told him to think before talking
Nobody cares. You are reported too for being salty. :)
Stance dont u mean sugary?
HappySlappyFace eww
oh man just seeing the kind of skill and finesse needed to do these kind of things, man you have my respect! :D
A sample of the high quality of repair. You are a real master! Thank's 👍
Dude I just realised how much I love sockets. Thanks :)
Lmao, this brings back memories of when I used to "reball" PS3s in the oven with a cookie sheet back in 2007. Of course, this is more high tech than my oven method but it still worked! Then I would give the case a thorough cleaning because dust bunnies and repaste the GPU/CPU with Arctic Silver and presto. I remember the people in my neighborhood piling up at my doorstep to fix their's and their friends. I never charged for any of it. It was a journey that took me learn about motherboards and the like. It even got me to hard-mod PS3s with dual OSs, marrying BlueRay drives, etc. #goodtimes
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@Kurama I feel your pain
@@Music42074 Lmao you're a tool and youre funny af
8:27 top notch video quality production. Don't misunderstand me, I really love it.
Here in Brazil this solder flow is so rare that we use a single fraction of what you used there. We use a brush to apply the product. Congratulations on your work.
Absolutely fantastic video. You did all this in a very short amount of time. Nice work.
I hope they pay you good for that service, that was an epic restore. I personally tried soldering, and its so hard to do a good job.
Thanks for video without music!!!!!
Its called asmr and it's a fetish for some
yeah hate shitty music
didnt pay attention til you mention, but i guess is better nothing than shitty unlicenced music 😂😂😂
Music.Oh yeae Oh yea Oh yea. Yea yea yea.
professionals are silent, you xxx
holy moly that is quite a sophisticated reballing operation there
. Very clean bro very clean god bless your hand I'm very excited with this keep the bed us with your framework
Excellent Reballing! I really liked the process, good job! I enjoyed it very much! Greetings from Uruguay!
Indeed.
jajajajajajaja..... regards from Chile ¡¡¡. donde te encuentro ¡¡¡... saludos Bro..
Excellent and accurate work with a detailed review!
Click like!)
(I write with a translator, sorry. Greetings from Russia)
excellent Excellent, as BLOD repairing no body does it and they say they cant fix it, and you did it , EXCELLENT WORK
Thankyou, literally going to link this to every customer that always questions the price we charge for re-balling and the reason why certain products arent worth it cost wise, they seem to think it takes 5 minutes all done in one machine, they dont seem to comprehend how many things can actually go wrong with re-balling no matter how good you or your equipment is.
Tell them it's at least an hour of work plus hundreds of possiple mistakes.
How did I just watch 44 mins of a guy fixing a PS4 and I don’t even have a PS4?
it's satisfying though
I watched it but I don't have any problem with my PS4 LOL
Ditto
DAMN! ME TOO..
Sergio Garcia watch out u guys.. don’t jinx yourselfs it’s a horrible place to be..
You Need more thermal paste I like to use the whole tube seems to work great, you could even submerge the whole ps4 in thermal paste that should keep it nice and cool.
Keeps the heat evenly distributed to all the console.
😆😆whole ps4
😂
it's dental paste
Dang you will need gallon of Paste for a Threadripper
This is the coolest thing I've seen in a while
Awesome video, and great repair! I find BGA repairs fascinating to watch, although never attempted one myself.
Так уверенно собирает, до конца, словно знает, что проблема решена. Сначала проверить надо, потом собирать полностью. Не за что лайк ставить.
А через годик или пол года снова реболить, то, что это шары под процом слиплись или прохой контакт это миф. Реболл помогает если консоль нихило так уронили.
great video man. i just dislike that this type of problem is becoming more common with consoles and cellphones now. Companies should invest a little more on better soldering to prevent stuff like this from happening. Kudos man. since we all dont have those skills or tools its nice to know they're ppl out there like you fixing companies mistakes. :)
i can see why most people shy away from reballing the APU it is a delicate and tedious process but its better than spending $300 on another console! i am a noob at soldering but i have some experience working on PS4 consoles taking all of the components apart, replacing or cleaning them. i refuse to touch a 400 degree piece of iron to the motherboard until i 110% know what i am doing and have done it at least a few times. i know the basics and the safety protocol to soldering i just need to familiarize myself more with all of the chips and capacitors, etc. and perfect technique. great job on the video!
This is hands down one of the coolest vids I have ever seen. Very fascinating stuff!
SCREW YOU BILLY
* takes apart ps4 on paper towels as if going to show the poor man's way of fixing the problem
* proceeds to use a heat gun table, and also a ball jig designed specifically for this chip
in no way was that even implied
I was thinking the same someone doing this in their garage.
I was expecting a sledgehammer and a trip to Amazon for a new PS4 pro.... Gotta be way cheaper than this.... Gotta be.
You can manually replace the balls with tweezers if you were so inclined.
Why do poor people buy paper towels?
Never thought I'd see an APU get resoldered to a board until now. Nicely done.
Sidenote, Audio timing is off.
I can do this now but only if I have like your tools 😅,
I have same problem, but I don't have like your tools.
Thank you for sharing us this video, now I know from where the problem it.
👍🏻👍🏻
The Best reballing work ive ever seen... good sh*t bro
Excellent video mate, I love tech but i love fixing things even more and this combines both of these at an A grade level, well done bud =)
holy mother of thermal paste.
There is no such thing as too much, thats a myth, there is a such thing as too little though, as long as the paste does not spill over the cpu its fine. And before you ask me for my sources, i have alot of experience in computer and electronics repair (tinkerer since the age of 5) and my grandfathers on both sides of my family are certified in electronic and computer engineering, so i have a a mentor on top of the experience (mostly self taught, but i have not failed yet)
@@dcfuksurmom "There is no such thing as too much.. as long as the paste does not spill over the cpu its fine" dude used way too much
Z0D it didn't spill over, its fine.
Z0D he could have used way less (it would be cheaper) but it will be fine. I personally do an even coat but thinner than what he used. Or if I don't have the patience I will just do a pea sized drop an let it spread itself when I put e heatsink on. Both methods get the same results
@@dcfuksurmom did you see how much was spilled over from the old paste 6:36? I guarantee you once he puts that back together it will spill. not like theres a 1mm gap between processor and heatsink. I usually use the 1 drop technique aswell, but that guy used the equivalent of like 6 drops and he also got a thread of paste "spilled" over 36:25.
Nice video mate.Very satisfying to watch.
Wow. I never thought it was possible to resolder BGA chips.. Last boards I worked on were mostly 16-pin DIP packages :) Most detailed work I did recently was straightening a folded LGA 1155 socket contact using a 10X magnifier and and Xacto knife (it was successful)
I've never actually seen the APU taken out, interesting.
He really just gave his PS4 a whole operation
Oh really? I would have never known if you hadn't enlightened me.
@@maskked585 It's a joke damn did your parents hit you or something?
😂
Bro this is basically like, a brain surgery. NURSE! GET THE THERMAL PASTE!
Nurse: doctor, how much?
ALL OF IT
And little bit of thermal paste
fantastisch , en inderdaad een rustpunt in de poel van noise .
So satisfying to watch... A great work!
Real masterwork, thank you for sharing! I wonder why after so many issues with BGA sockets they don't move to LGA or PGA, which has proved to be much reliable, hopefully one day console manufacturers will get the point, but with so much heat generated from the last and this gen chips, they should already start thinking about it. Maybe next gen will surprise us with something, who knows...
always wondered what reballing meant till @24:44 many many balls!! haha, nice job man.
You have done a good work, I like the way you did it. Greeting from #Nigeria
Лайк за салфетку. Приятно что хоть кто-то заботится о внешнем виде ремонтируемых вещей.
wow a lot of work
The ultimate microprocessor treatment
No that is not, just strike the biggest hammer you can get
And I thought I had seen the PS4 fully disassembled...
I didn't know, how wrong I was. :D
Great video!
I watch full entire of the process just to feel the satisfying of succesfull of hard work
no idea what's going on or why I'm here but it's nice to watch
Retro Plays same lol
hhahhahhhhhaa
The chip doing most of the math to run the PS4 has weak connections to the motherboard. They pull the ship off, attach new conductive metal balls to each of the contact points between the chip and the motherboard, and then melt those balls to that the connection is made solidly again.
Synaps4 that's a nice explaination u typed there.
On the subject of the previous gen console (PS3); Remember, before getting the CPU / GPU reballed, just know that it isn't always the culprit behind YLODs. The die for the chips may be the issue which is much harder to correct, but also consider that the capacitor chips may be at fault too as the capacitor chips (located under the CPU / GPU) are prone to failure.
Exactly
Super clean job Man👍
when you lifted up the stencil the only thing that came to my mind was "aaaaaCHOOOOO" XD
Thank you for the great video!!witch product u use to clean the APU??
foi o melhor vídeo de reballing q ja vir parabéns
I think I,ll just buy a new motherboard but thanks for the video, You'r a boss with the soldering gun bro!
love the way you explained everything...
You mean with clear and simple video without annoying commentation for 45 minutes?
Yah everyone else with a brain too.
😒
@@Bramon83 Something tells me you're a bit simple in the head.
@@theinsanityplex9372 oh damn, you got me. I need some aloe for this very bad burn.......
Great video, and what a shit ton of labor and time, thats why the expensive cost of repairing.
***** Oh shiz, that oven and dark silicon sounds interesting, how that Works?
***** damn lol, ill try it one day, thx
***** huh?
***** oh lol! not tryed yet, need to get some dameged PS4 first lol, but ill let you know with some video if i do it ñ_ñ
***** damn, that sux, but happy b. day budd, maybe someone in your town could help you with some oven technique to see if can be fixed that way, maybe will be just some HDMI minor soldering stuff or something not so bad.
Мое уважение. Я и не думал что отвал в данном случае APU можно так вылечить. Всего вам наилучшего.
Que excelente trabalho , fiquei impressionado , trabalhoso , porém muito bom , meu PS4 é o modelo FAT também e precisará fazer este tipo de trabalho também , agora já sei como é feito o procedimento
louis rossman taught me about the wonderful world of FC bumps.... (aka its not the solder balls)
I was also wondering about this, if it's anything like all the other BGA failures in the past (PS3, Xbox 360, Macbook, GPU, etc) it's not the solder balls.
it cant it uses non leaded soder it will melt around 350 c
What a great video !
+Maciej Pytlik Thanks ! But I will do it much better nowadays.
Image if it didn't work after all that! 🤣 I was thinking of doing a hack job with just a re-heat, but got very excited when the detail of your video gave me the confidence to try doing it fully the correct way (still with a heat gun and temp gun)...until I saw the chip-specific ball-jig and solder balls. Even though in the time it would take me to do this I'd make enough to just buy another PS4, plus I'm impatient and don't want to order tools and wait for them just to have it not work anyway, especially when I only want to fix it to sell it 😜 I still might try a pseudo-full job for the fun of it!
Thanks for the detailed video!
Very helpful video, Thank you so much!
We continue the saga of "why am I here?"
personally i found most of it very relaxing and therapeutic... right up until the compressor kicked in and scared the piss out of me, as the entire video had been super silent previously.
Damn, you need have some balls to do this! Nice job! :-)
This is insane how much effort it takes to fix this issue. Im currently doing a full clean on my ps4 pro jet engine edition. Hope it gets quieter
Thanks,this video was very useful 👌
This video it's an ASMR experience
It looks like
Imagine if the blue light came on again at the end of the video. Lul
The Unknown would’ve been Deadasl 🤣🤣🤣
very hard work.need spacial tools.I have never seen before that someone change APU.all repair workshops throw away the motherboard or entire console.exellent job.you are pro
I don’t know why I just watched this but I did. I don’t have a PS4, and I don’t know what a blue light of death is, yet I still watched this... I’ll probably watch it again tomorrow.
I love these kind of repairs, what is that machine called that re-heated the APU back to the motherboard? Also is that a custom jig you made for the solder balls to sit in place?
@13:36 so funny that you clean the pins and then drop them in the dirty soup on your table.
Nice reballing...good job
nice job...i liked this job in my youth...paste is good because back sheet is bigger than chip..(bigger than sheet of PC cooler)..so little bit more paste is good
Interesting Video on how to reball an APU :)
I hope the PS4 still works? ;)
Haven't heart anything from the customer, so I suppose it is still working, hopefully. But nowadays, I do it lots better, always have a focus on the things which could be done better.
definitively. Experience experience experience. That's where People learn from :)
This is why I trust PCs instead of consoles
@@TyrianTheDutifulWhere can you get a gaming PC for just $400, huh? My PC costs approx. $5300 and is 3 years old... Well I built it myself and there are no complaints till now
@@joe_3105 igot a 2013 alienware 14 works good for me
Ik heb er geen verstand van wel leuk om te zien👍
Haha het is wel grappig al die Kapteins die aan wal staan.
Leuk je reactie ! Ja, die mensen heb je in overvloed, ik probeer me er niet teveel aan te irriteren. Soms is het wel lachwekkend.
Es como un AMRS pero de electrónica 😄 hasta el final feliz. 👍 Felicidades.
8:25 you had one job.
Should of just put the chip back on the board lol... take 2!
Some tips for next time:
1. Use the jig in a vice to hold the APU in place when desoldering. It will save so much time.
2. Use more flux!!! Less flux you use, more chance of heating up the chip too much when desoldering and damaging the APU.
3. Don't use a spade tip to desolder, scrub with a pen tip and copper wire. Hella easy way to destroy the APU with a spade.
4. Melt the balls with the stencil ON and use flux!! Remove it with heat. I dont even know how you managed to get the balls to stay in place!
5. Thank god you used non conductive paste, god damn man! Less = More!
I hope you are better after 5 years!
This was like computer-based ASMR. i never really understood that shit but this was nice. Just the sounds of the machine and devices.
Happy New Year to you and your family I am a new follower
Nice, happy New Year for you too ! :-)
24:32 bloody hell! Where am i supposed to get that!
eerereps I got a cousin he will sell it to you for $5 and a piece of gum
3D print it
aliexpress
The spray he using is: 3M Scotch Weld Cleaner Spray
Thank you
do you mean i was wrong using WD40 al this time?
@@estebanquito356 there is WD40 For Electronics , like this one shorturl.at/bTWX9 , as the normal Blue WD40 used for locks and cars and other stuff can do damage to circuits , this one does not.
@@estebanquito356 lol
Excelente profesional, estoy impresionado.
I need knew the ball part of reball was so literal. Interesting.
I fixed my brothers one with just a hair dryer, i only heat it up for like 2 minutes then let it cool down and it worked
lol you already live in 2039 huh
@@lolcat9997im not joking dude, i looked it up and a lot of people said that the blue light of death is caused by a failure in the soldering so the hair dryer is hot enough to melt it and re solder it
@@45llamas yeah :D
@@45llamas are u sure dude? What's your Instagram I need your help
@@dodgedemonsrtx just get to the APU remove the thermal paste and get your self a hair dryer put it at max power and heat it up very close to each other for about 2 minutes
hi bro where you buy BGA jig like that, share link please...thank you
Mooi gereedschap wat je er voor gebruikt! Interessante video 😎
Thank you kindly for the video, i now know how to replace my PS4.
And here I struggle soldering my 0603's. This is cool.
anything is possible with the correct tools and the necessary knowledge and expertise.
0603 is easy as fuck
This comment section is full of loudmouth ingrates.
Personally, I would never spend a ton, fixing any console. However, it is intriguing and satisfying to watch someone else do it! If you have that tools and the time, why not? :D
That indicates, Sony sells to cheap, much toooo cheap, my dear. If anything is in anyway repairable it has to be repaird. A new PS4, tenfold price. Would you throw your repairable one, into trash? Would you think about that, if its not repairable a new one for tenfold less price. Yes you would definately think about it.
Sounds nice, but never will happen
KnocclHead lol sony doesnt sell for cheap xD they ask way too much for shitty older hardware whaha
And the skills and knowledge
@@KnocclHead do you really think this process is somehow cheaper then just buying a new one? he has a custom rig for that EXACT cpu repair. plus all the knowledge and expertise that goes into that. a regular person would probably just ruin it permanently. ps4's are pretty cheap now. this probably costs almost as much as a brand new one.
@@jebes909090 Would you have more money if
A: You hire someone to mow your lawn or
B: You mow your own lawn
Fantastic work!
Muy buen trabajo!!! Felicitaciones 👏👏👏👌