2018 Tissot Seastar vs. Seiko SBDC051 - Japan vs. Switzerland at $750!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Hey guys! So many of you have asked for a head-to-head showdown on the Seiko SBDC051 and Tissot Seastar 1000 Powermatic 80, so here you go! Find out which one I would be taking home from the store.
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Had a Seiko Diver's watch back in the 90s. I had no complaints. After watching your review of the Tissot Seastar... I would love to own one for a change. Awesome review!
Very well done comparison video ! Looking forward for more from you.
Excellent , well made review. You covered all the aspects.
I have a deep blue seastar with the black rubber strap. The lume fell out of the bezel and my AD sent it out for repair, it came back with a new bezel with engraved numbers and markings that are painted a white/silver. Much more visible and looks outstanding! The P80 inside runs at -2 seconds a day.
Great video! 17:41 I thought for a MOMENT that van in front of you was going down lol, love the 6R15 got one in my enamel presage 🤙
I like the review,and very well spoken, excellent discription,i can tell you are a watch enthusiast
Great review on the watches I own both of them and like you said its preference on what you like in a watch to be honest seiko are the way forward I own many different seiko watches. The Tissot seastar powermatic is a beautiful watch like you I hate the bracelet that came with it I have a leather strap on mine love wearing it Great Video
What size do use on the nato strap for the Tissot, i can't find the 21 mm strap any where and great comparison. 🙂
Super review!!
Just picked up the tissot with black face and bezel brand new on a father's day sale for $525. Incredible value at that price
You can use the Seiko for diving and Tissot as a dress watch, both nice watches
My standard Powermatic 80 Tissot got around +2.5 sec per day
I would have preferred Seiko giving a gold color on the bezel number, similar to one of the Seiko Turtles.
I’m just getting into watches but the Tissot is gorgeous and both are but something about that Tissot.....
Seiko in my opinion is the clear winner. Seiko is one of the few companies doing and using every single component in-house. Plus PADI put their name on it for a very good reason. They could have choose any other diver. And in that price range no swiss diver can beat the king turtle. Not at that price in my opinion. And the way that bezel feel. The craftsmanship is just next level.
Nice review. I have 2 Seastars both with rubber straps - one with orange indices on black face and the other a deep blue sunburst face that looks great and the bezel has much brighter numbering than the one in this video, but I just bought it in 2021 so maybe they improved it. I have 3 other Seiko watches but not the SBDC051 reviewed, but I like them all. Thanks for the review!
Thinking of buying seastar but im afraid it won't fit my wrist. any advice at least which wrist size would fit.
@@edwinloves-old-songs744 How big is your wrist? Probably best to try one on if you are concerned
@@andybroer651 about 7.3 or 4 inch
@@edwinloves-old-songs744 That's pretty small, best to try one on to be sure.
@@andybroer651 thanks
Should I get a Tissot Seastar or equivalent ? What would be a good equivalent ?
Depends what you value in a watch. The Seiko compared here is a good choice, or if you want to stay Swiss the Mido Ocean Stars are very highly regarded by most.
What I feel is ...for a man....having a great watch is like a woman owning a diamond jewellery....For men...A watch is the only jewellery....Go out there and own a watch ...I own a tissot and rolex ..but after watching this ...I think I need a seiko too ...great analysis...good video...wishes from Bengaluru India
Tissot has higher prestige in Asia as compared to Seiko who is known for affordability or cheap masses' watch. This is just for your info. Anyhow, I like your bubbly way of presentation. Keep it up.
I don’t know if that’s true for all of Asia, perhaps China where western brands are held in much higher regard and domestic product is less so, but in Japan (my home country) and in the West, Seiko is a well respected brand (in the same way Toyota is). While they do make (fantastic) cheap watches, the Grand Seiko line and technology like Spring Drive is so far ahead of what the Europeans do. With the European brands you’re really paying for the name and not much more. Cheers!
In general, most countries around Asia would rather go for "Swiss Made" watches if not for the expensive prices. I cannot deny that Seiko make good affordable watches but between a Grand Seiko and a Rolex, I am sure most will choose a Rolex. You may not know, there was a time when Rolex watches were been smuggled to South Korea and Japan. Likewise, the Mercedes is still held high in regards as compared to Lexus.
@@nanhinting7447 I am asian but thats the Asian mentality I can't stand..its "label"above all else. They buy the "maker" as many are afraid to like and appreciate what sometimes is plainly obvious because someone doesn't recognize it. Its also called massive insecurity.
Seiko is moving upmarket and having some difficulty because its not known as a luxury in the mainstream but those in the know, who owned both Rolex and GS, and who already had enough labels to care less about what others recognize, unless in denial, knows which one is superior in every term from finish, history, technical innovations and performance, besides marketing . I still love Rolex for timeless design but that is subjective.
Many products that succeed in Asia simply has to price the item ridiculously high and tout, its the most expensive and thats all people need to know..from stereos,watches, clothes, etc...its laughable...people need to have confidence to buy and wear what they like.
frankly tissot built quality is not good as seiko, may be powermatic has advantage but on this range go for victorinox inox divers if you want swiss made robust divers. it has good finishing, strongest of all and yes its quartz but you ll love when you hold it and feel the quality
I agree! I love Victorinox watches - I only have a few automatic pieces from them, but have had many more in the past. The Inox Automatic which uses the ETA movement is rated down to 200M I believe, so it should do as well as the Seiko.
I am trying to buy one of those Seikos, it's way better than the Tissot. I find the design way more classic, plus the Diashock coating, and, unlike the Tissot, it really doesn't depreciate as bad.
Agree. Had the seastar 1000 and compared to my King samurai, craftsmanship is by far higher on the seiko, different league and my 62mas reissue is above the king samurai particularly the casework.
Seiko samurai has engraved ceramic bezel with luxurious feel at least as nice as my Tag and at/near my Rolexes, Tissot is drawn on markers with racketchy feel and tons of play. Sapphire on Tissot has ton of reflection.. The dial,index, and hands look ultra cheap on the Tissot no where near seiko level. Case finishing and detail goes to Seiko. Only thing Tissot has is the powermatic on paper but the ones I had were garbage with poor isochronism, shock resistance. Seiko punches above its weight, Tissot felt ultra cheap.
Put these two next to each other and it clear.
@@cy4624 The powermatic is likely a "more exclusive" version of the 2824. The 2824 is better in most ways. I will tell you, I bought that Seiko and sold all my other dive watches, including some that were more expensive. It's a very special watch. The watch looks like it should be 2k + and, honestly, had Seiko released it in the last year or so, it would have likely retailed for 1,500$ +. It's not often I see a watch that I love right away but this Seiko is that watch. PS, get the strap code oyster bracelet to go with it, it really makes the watch that much better imo (mine came with it!).
@@MrChippinator I agree about Seiko divers. I have/had all the big swiss/German brands A-Z including those in 5 figures and all I seem to wear is Seikos. There is magic about them, just feel right. Superb value too when you compare likes of MM300 vs an AR..no contest but people fall for swiss label although very few are actually swiss but technically swiss with many outsourced chinese parts.
Also agree, the ones I have based on eta 2824, 2836,2892, 2895 is rock solid beating out many in-houses I have for accuracy, reliability, serviceability while the powermatics were subpar. Many inhouses are subpar as well as they all rushed unproven designs to market without experience or know how due to current market demand while charging a whole lot more.
@@cy4624 I couldn’t agree more. Seiko makes the most trusted dive watches according to actual divers. Honestly the 2824, and the SW200 from Sellita are the two best value for money movements in the world imo. Legit high-best workhorses. Not impressed with Powermatic 80 at all. In house is overrated. Hard to service, expensive parts, unproven commodity in a lot of cases.
Swiss made is great
Seiko for the win, just don’t like powermatic movement swatch group are putting into just about everything below omega..
Powermatic is better on paper but isochronism, shock resistance, reliability etc sucks in reality
Seastar how lug to lug?
21 mm
Seiko looks better built.but Tissot has a better movement. But looks cheap on the outside.
I think the 80 hour power reserve movements the Swatch Group is throwing in their mid rangers like Tissot, Hamilton, Certina, etc. are overrated. This is coming from a guy who loves the interaction with his watches of manual winding! And give Seiko credit for producing truly in-house movements. I adore my Omega SMPC, but the fact that the truly unique co-axial escapement finds its base in (although highly decorated) an ETA 2892-A2 still sorta kinda bugs me. To Swatch's credit, aside for the addition of some plastic parts, it is based on the venerable 2824-2 movement.
Steven Freeman Hi there! The Seiko definitely is better built, and it does seem like in terms of movement that many share your opinion. I like the P80 as a movement a lot but I do wish they didn’t build them with as much plastic inside, and that the beat rate was a bit higher. Cheers!
It definitely does not look cheap on the outside. I own one and I can tell you the Swiss make better watches!
Powermatic is better on paper but isochronism, shock resistance, reliability etc sucks.
Why do some people say, the tissot would only cost 400$ in America. That's pretty irritating for someone living in Europe where it costs 700€. Or is the 400$ a grey market price?
Jeckit XF Hi! You can find the Tissot somewhat frequently from authorized department stores here in the US for between $450 and $550 USD. Bloomingdale’s (our version of Selfridges/DeBijenkorf/Galleries Lafayette) and their sister brand Macy’s are authorized dealers for the Swatch Group and usually run discounts that can be stacked with a coupon code or something - I paid $500 USD for mine I think when Bloomingdale’s did 25% off our US retail price ($725 or about €650?) plus another 10% off code on top of that. Shipped from Swatch too. I will say that I’m over there semi frequently for work and if you’re ever able to get to the Swatch boutiques in the duty free areas of major airports in the UK/EU, they’re about €500 or so. Definitely cheaper than prices on the high street, where a good deal of your cost is the VAT. Hope this helps!!!
@@joshswatches Hey Josh!
Thanks for the quick and long reply! Definitely helps! Unfortunately there aren't too many duty free areas left here in Germany but this way I know I don't waste money when buying it from an authorized dealer for 700€.
PS: great video
By the way it was your video about the first impressions on that watch from a year ago that made me love it (especially after googling the black dial edition). And after loving this watch I got really interested in watches, changing straps and so on😁
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Jeckit XF Hi there!!! Sorry - CZcams doesn’t notify me of replies to comments (maybe I’m doing something wrong) but anyway I didn’t see this until now! Ah - love Germany! I haven’t kept up with everything going on but I will say that I know some of the U.K. stores do dispatch to other EU countries and if you can get around the U.K. VAT via Brexit that might be worth a shot! Also, if you ever are able to get to Switzerland, they’ll generally knock off 20-30% if you pay in cash (paper money). That’s true of most Swiss watches including the prestige brands like Rolex/Omega/JaegerLC, etc. Cheers!!!!
to me seiko loses with matte black dial and lacquered finish(weak)
I like Tissot watches, but their bracelets always feel cheap to me.
I own and love the T but the bracelet is a joke......
Sea star looks cheap, seiko looks more premium to me
To me it looks the other way around.