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    We’re going inside the twisted new world of Gypsy Rose Blanchard where life after her release has left many questioning what really happened, if Gypsy Rose Blanchard has taken accountability, her new celebrity, her husband, and if Nick Godejohn should be released. Let’s talk about the lies, manipulation, rise and downfall surrounding Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Not everything is as it seems in this story of betrayal, deception, lies, and greed…
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    • @shannap.lawnerd125
      @shannap.lawnerd125 Před 3 měsíci +4

      10:42 Thank you, so very much, for continuing to make this a safe space for all. My family came over in 1938, as there was “only one solution” for the Roma in Germany. My Opa went on to become a biochemist for the FDA, for over 40yrs. When folks feel safe & accepted, they can achieve incredible things. Keep being amazing, doll. 💯💋Be blessed.

    • @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian
      @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian Před 3 měsíci +2

      I’ll never be able to afford to get the rib cage hoodie. Booo 👎🏼 Maybe one day Swoop will have a sale. 🤞🏼
      Fantastic doc Swoop, as always. ❤ I’ve always been fascinated with this story. So interested that I’ve spoken to Rod throughout Gypsy’s incarceration. We emailed back and forth. He’s an incredibly nice man. He’s def made mistakes but he loves Gypsy with all of his heart. He wanted Gypsy to come home to him and her family upon her release. Him and her stepmom both tried talking her into getting married after her release but she wanted to be able to move in with Ryan immediately so they had to get married pre release in order for that to happen. Anyway my point was he’s very nice and loves Gypsy very much. ❤❤❤

    • @willowen3074
      @willowen3074 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thank you for taking about DID. I have both that and autism. More people need to understand that DID is real. And is affecting so many that need help. So again thank you.

    • @LadyLuck13
      @LadyLuck13 Před 3 měsíci +4

      There is actually no evidence she had a property destroyed by storms. She just said it was the case to cover up her lies and use it with regard the medical records and birth certificate

    • @chonk_fox89
      @chonk_fox89 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I don't want to be that person...but it's been a while since we've heard the theme song...

  • @heidiheidi
    @heidiheidi Před 3 měsíci +1223

    People treating her like a pop icon is insane.

    • @jasontodd7450
      @jasontodd7450 Před 3 měsíci +82

      Right??? Like, it just feels weird. People were demanding she make a tiktok and have a social media presence and it's baffling the level people are going when it comes to idolizing her. She doesn't need a presence as an influencer, she needs trauma therapy. And lots more of it.

    • @joshcannon3600
      @joshcannon3600 Před 3 měsíci

      Our society is mentally ill

    • @smidgelette
      @smidgelette Před 3 měsíci +38

      It’s sickening and feeding the need for attention her mother instilled in her sadly. She gives the odd public service description of MB that you can get off Google and then back to garnering attention via the rest of social media. Super uncomfortable.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Yes, and the one it hurts the most is her. Gross.

    • @DIaneW702
      @DIaneW702 Před 3 měsíci +24

      She shouldn’t be held up as a star I think she’s really getting a big head over this Enjoying every moment She needs therapy!

  • @DrinkYourNailPolish
    @DrinkYourNailPolish Před 3 měsíci +2697

    We're expecting someone whose whole life revolved around abuse manupilation and deception to suddenly act like she was raised by two healthy normal parents.

    • @Em-gt5wr
      @Em-gt5wr Před 3 měsíci +271

      this part though.. of course she will be manipulative cause that's all she KNOWS. she needed to be in a mental institution coming out of prison to make sure she can function through her trauma rather than act on it.

    • @hymntothenight
      @hymntothenight Před 3 měsíci +186

      exactly, thank you. going through this abuse, especially as a young child can literally rewire your brain. i didn't even know she was a victim of CSA, which adds even more to that point. While she was in prison everyone always acted like "oh poor gypsy rose she's such a victim", but now that she's not acting how they'd like she's "manipulative" etc. Everybody seemingly wants a "perfect victim", and it's so shitty how quickly they'll turn on her and other victims for simply displaying symptoms from the abuse she/other victims endured.

    • @enby33
      @enby33 Před 3 měsíci +8

      💯

    • @balencii326
      @balencii326 Před 3 měsíci +112

      @@Em-gt5wrshe should’ve been in one in general. Her sentence would’ve been better served if she was doing therapy, within a healing community, etc. but i feel like people wanna see other people in shackles instead of really considering the fact that trauma related cases needs loads of trauma therapy. sitting in a cell doesn’t do that

    • @CHEV2023
      @CHEV2023 Před 3 měsíci +20

      So many lies .. she just needs to get a job a-lot of young people been abuse, but she decided to feed off of people’s compassion just like her mother

  • @helyns1416
    @helyns1416 Před 3 měsíci +501

    For what it's worth, I'm autistic and i have never heard anyone say they have a problem with saying someone is "on the spectrum."

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před 2 měsíci +51

      I took issue with that too. And not because wanna be difficult but it seems so arbitrary and no explanation for it was given. I do have a problem being PC JUST because one person decided an entire community should be a certain way- if it makes no sense. So I’d love more info on this.

    • @Kelekona
      @Kelekona Před 2 měsíci +19

      I can, as someone who isn't Autistic see why because several people I have met have used it in a weird tone. I know that sounds weird but they'd say it kind of low and in a shitty kind of way. Ex: "Oh well you know...They're on the spectrum" then that person would roll their eyes or make a face. It's very much a context thing but yeah.

    • @helyns1416
      @helyns1416 Před 2 měsíci +28

      @@Kelekona Yeah. People do use it as a euphemism sometimes. I think maybe the other issue is that sometimes people will say "everybody is a little on the spectrum." Which isn't really true and can be sort of a misleading concept.

    • @flute_girl19
      @flute_girl19 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Yeah me to I’m a proud autistic

    • @MrLnmolnar
      @MrLnmolnar Před 2 měsíci +28

      As an autistic person with 2 autistic children and 3 NOT austistic children...
      We use, and prefer,
      "on the spectrum" to "autistic person(s).

  • @DaysieRose
    @DaysieRose Před 3 měsíci +534

    Thank you for including those words from Nick's mom. I can't imagine having your son sentenced to life in prison, then have to watch Gypsy go free, turn into an influencer and say she doesn't even think about your son. I would wake up every day in a rage. My heart goes out to her.

    • @Simplicityandkindness
      @Simplicityandkindness Před 3 měsíci +82

      I'm very very sorry to tell you this but Nick's mother overdosed and is dead. Some speculation that it was suicide.😥. She just died of a broken heart. Because she couldn't take it anymore. So sad because Nick needs support right now. His dad is still advocating for him though. I really really wish that Nick and Gypsy Rose would have just set up a hidden camera and documented the abuse. Would have solved everything. Dee Dee would be in jail and these kids would be free. So much ripple effects of Dee Dees actions.

    • @DaysieRose
      @DaysieRose Před 3 měsíci +20

      Oh my God. That's so horrible. 😢

    • @metalanarchy5186
      @metalanarchy5186 Před 3 měsíci +32

      Its a horrible story Nick isn't right in and eveeryone talks about how she suffered but she is responseable for two lifes ended she set up her mom's murder and she sacerificed her mom and Nicks life for her to be a celeb wait until she feels wronged by someone else what happens than two things can be true you can be victim and a victimizer and if people don't blame her for her moms death but she munipulated a mentally ill guy and it sounded like from her text messages she has her own bad side lots of killers are victims first maybe if they were female got someone else to do it in this sick internet infested world where people championthe wrong qualitys my Dad use to severly beat me my sisters mom and brother god rest his sole there other ways to get free

    • @DaysieRose
      @DaysieRose Před 3 měsíci +35

      I used to subscribe to another commentary channel and they posted something about G Rose. The first comment was something like "we don't tolerate abuse!" in a way that glorified G Rose, and I unsubscribed immediately. Because if that was the flavor, no. No, I don't tolerate abuse. But I don't "yass girl" a person who plotted a murder and destroyed the life of a mentally challenged person. F*ck right off with that. I'm SO grateful Swoop didn't glorify G Rose. It's why I vibe with her. She smells something fishy, she points it TF out

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@SimplicityandkindnessDefinitely some lack of capacity. Sad case.

  • @kittenmitten7360
    @kittenmitten7360 Před 3 měsíci +5826

    I mean.. her mother is truly a monster but I can't keep going back to the MASSIVE point that these doctors that allowed this crap to go on.. and on.. and on for ALLLL those years, should be put behind bars. HEAVILY medicating a child and doing countless, POINTLESS surgeries and procedures and treatments.. my mind is absolutely blown how this went on for decades of a child's life.

    • @miriamiuricich6636
      @miriamiuricich6636 Před 3 měsíci

      Totally agree. “To do no harm”, that’s the oath that doctors take. Also it is extremely rare for girls to have Muscular Dystrophy so that should have been picked up immediately by medical professionals. The stats don’t lie.
      Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD) is an X-linked recessive neuromuscular disease. This fatal disease affects approximately 1:3,500 to 6,000 live male births [1] and 1:50,000, in female live births.

    • @fcklife182
      @fcklife182 Před 3 měsíci +342

      Right???? HOW did they DX her with leukemia?? AND put her thru cancer treatments?!?!?!

    • @xoxsilentrealmxox
      @xoxsilentrealmxox Před 3 měsíci +165

      Has any medical professional ever verified that any of this happened?

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes Před 3 měsíci

      Same, how did doctors put a child through chemo, put in a feeding tube and god knows what else just because the mom told them to? They’re all untrustworthy and shouldn’t be allowed to keep working as doctors

    • @serenetiv
      @serenetiv Před 3 měsíci +182

      it's a little bit weird how this is the opposite of Maya Kowalski who has a diagnosed condition but the hospital said her mother had munchhausen by proxy and terrible things happened....

  • @hotboxhorror
    @hotboxhorror Před 3 měsíci +3035

    And lets be VERY clear. Anyone who goes after someone who is in prison in a romantic way is usually not all right in the head themselves. aka her husband.

    • @iolitelight
      @iolitelight Před 3 měsíci +44

      Oh I think that he's more right in the head than her.

    • @mirandajones7816
      @mirandajones7816 Před 3 měsíci +8

      @@iolitelightwhat do you mean?

    • @iolitelight
      @iolitelight Před 3 měsíci +71

      @@mirandajones7816 Nick is sick and dangerous. But Gypsy is more sick and dangerous. Abuse like that creates monsters.

    • @amandacastillon8643
      @amandacastillon8643 Před 3 měsíci +186

      ​@iolitelight But they're not talking about Nick, they're talking about her husband, Ryan.

    • @vela0854
      @vela0854 Před 3 měsíci +50

      Sorry to say I get some 🚩. I hope I’m wrong

  • @raymay7712
    @raymay7712 Před 3 měsíci +254

    Hi, Swoop, I am autistic and would like to say a few things: Autistic people tend to have a naive trust in everyone (hence why we are a vulnerable population to abuse), we also tend to be very obedient and easily manipulated (since we are so honest and literal, we think everyone else is, we also are bad at reading people and social cues, wich leads to missing malicious intent.). Having said that, I do not like nick's diagnosis being brought up in the way it was. Because we are so infantilized, people have this thought that autistic people are not capable of anything bad AND I CAN NOT STRESS ENOGH how untrue that is. Historically, autistic man, specifically straigh white cis autistic man ,TIME AND TIME AGAIN have a record of bring up their autism as justification to committing harm, ESPECIALLY TO WOMEN. I have seen autistic men harass and hurt women using their autism as a justification and protection (taking avantage of the fact the men and autistic people are seen as poor babys who dont know anything) a lot of times. Autism IS not a justification or excuse to hurt people and people using it that way only cause harm to the community, in a way that people tend to go to the extreme ableist thought of "if autistic people are bad, they shouldn't live in society". Autism is not a justification to commit crimes and I can't stress that enough. We are bad with social cues, but once we know something explicitly, there is no excuse Rebecca actually talks about that. You also mentioned nick's IQ and medically speaking, he does not fit the criteria for intelectual disability so in the eyes of the law he is a capable individual meaning he has to take responsibility for his actions.

    • @mortenhyvejle
      @mortenhyvejle Před 2 měsíci +22

      I have ADHD and Asbergers (autism), and I would never ever ever hurt any woman or child. If someone hurt my kids, it goes without saying that I would hurt them though... my point is that you are absolutely right in what you wrote. It's not an excuse to be autistic... and regarding being bad socially LOL.. having both ADHD and autism does that I don't even have a social life. I can't filter out sounds so I get so tired in like 30 minutes if if I'm together with a group of people... yes I can relate.

    • @Theundertakerphen0m369
      @Theundertakerphen0m369 Před měsícem +4

      I have both autism and ADHD as well and I hate having these disabilities

    • @mortenhyvejle
      @mortenhyvejle Před měsícem +1

      @@Theundertakerphen0m369 same here. Grew up in a institution due to that I was too wild and been a heroin junkie for almost 20 year's because I couldn't find a filter for the storm in my head and even though Ritalin (started 15 year's ago when I got the diagnosis) help me I still can't filter out voices, do what needs to be done etc... I hate too my friend.

    • @Theundertakerphen0m369
      @Theundertakerphen0m369 Před měsícem

      @@mortenhyvejle I got diagnosed in 2010 when I was 14 years old

    • @Dependencycourtsellschildren
      @Dependencycourtsellschildren Před měsícem

      AudHD here. Agreed. We don’t do that stuff. That’s other groups.

  • @vykepp5709
    @vykepp5709 Před 12 dny +10

    I don't think it's a debate if shes manipulative or not. Girl was crying and lying to the police saying "don't tell me she killed herself, she's bipolar". Im sure she's lied about other things as well. Her whole life she was taught to lie and manipulate things to get attention and nice things

  • @shrimpgeisha
    @shrimpgeisha Před 3 měsíci +2544

    There's something very uncomfortable about a man (Gypsy's husband) who specializes in working with vulnerable children with special needs being attracted to someone like Gypsy who was also thought of as being special needs and certainly (at one point) vulnerable.

    • @ferociousgumby
      @ferociousgumby Před 3 měsíci +395

      Yes, and Gypsy is still very childlike in her voice and her demeanor. I get a very creepy vibe from him. I have always wondered about people getting emotionally attached/"falling in love with" prisoners (usually women writing to men on death row) and even marrying them. What is this all about? If you are attracted to a person's sickness, what does this say about you?

    • @thatabbyrose2396
      @thatabbyrose2396 Před 3 měsíci +262

      As someone who works in the helping field - the biggest predators get jobs in the helping professions, because they know they’ll get access to a vulnerable pool while getting praise for all they do

    • @ferociousgumby
      @ferociousgumby Před 3 měsíci

      @@thatabbyrose2396 Wow. Not unlike some Boy Scout leaders, some "Big Brothers", and some Catholic priests. Traditionally, these were "trusted figures" and nobody questioned them.

    • @LunaHiddenStars
      @LunaHiddenStars Před 3 měsíci +95

      I feel like the reason why her demeanor is childlike, is because of her trauma. I'm not defending her, but as someone who's gone through trauma throughout my childhood, I can understand that. Other things though, not so much...

    • @maquel08
      @maquel08 Před 3 měsíci +185

      Yes! And how his answer to how he heard of her is always, “i saw her story and thought she was cute”… like what? She was convicted w her boyfriend and her pictures were of her dressed as a child.. and he thought she was cute?

  • @eurydicefiori865
    @eurydicefiori865 Před 3 měsíci +4082

    this is a case that has been covered SO many times before, but I can always count on Swoop to give her opinion with the grace and respect that it deserves

    • @emilywilson2084
      @emilywilson2084 Před 3 měsíci +56

      She’s really the only person I want to see cover it

    • @mybeautyfilledlife
      @mybeautyfilledlife Před 3 měsíci +44

      Seconding this comment. My timeline has been FLOODED with videos about this to the point where if I never see her name again it'll be too soon - until Swoop SWOOPS in with a whole new perspective 🫶🏽

    • @jrsodkes2776
      @jrsodkes2776 Před 3 měsíci +15

      SWOOP! SWOOP! SWOOP!

    • @eternallyirresistible
      @eternallyirresistible Před 3 měsíci +17

      shes really the only person that does this with a objective mind

    • @Ksklarge1
      @Ksklarge1 Před 3 měsíci +18

      It's not really been covered unless swoop covers it lol ❤😂

  • @pantaleimona
    @pantaleimona Před 3 měsíci +209

    When it comes to manipulation, she walks in her mother's footsteps. If she doesn't seek out a very experienced counselor who is immune to manipulation, she will fail to live a better, mentally healthy life. Listening to her husband saying Nick was the manipulator immediately made me say aloud, "You're being manipulated by the one you call innocent. " I hope he realizes it before it's too late for him to get the counseling he needs.

    • @JoBlo321
      @JoBlo321 Před 3 měsíci +22

      I agree 100% She's acting like she did nothing ("do I have to remind people that I did not do the actual kiIIing?") IMO She did far worse...she manipulated a man into doing her dirty work, let him take the fall for it and is completely remorseless! She doesn't care what happens to him. My hackles always stand on end when I see or hear her. This story is NOT over....something else is going to happen...mark my words.

    • @willow_jayde
      @willow_jayde Před měsícem +1

      Aren't they split up now?

  • @jhassvmusic2657
    @jhassvmusic2657 Před 10 dny +7

    She should win an Oscar for that acting, the way she cried about her mom being dead. That’s how we know she is someone to watch out for. Scary how good she is at lying. Clearly she is damaged and I feel for the way she was brought into the world but she is evil because of it and it’s hard to bypass that.

  • @blondbraid7986
    @blondbraid7986 Před 3 měsíci +1135

    The real overlooked villains in the case are the doctors who let the medical abuse happen for years and doing uneccesary procedures without even looking if she needed them.

    • @redshed2020
      @redshed2020 Před 3 měsíci +91

      Part of the issue is that when a doc DID see something was wrong and should be looked into, they moved. They moved and provided only the records that painted the picture she wanted. One Doc even suspected Munchausen and documented it. They immediately moved.

    • @kingworm7168
      @kingworm7168 Před 3 měsíci +55

      Also, people don’t realize that there is no “one place” where medical records live. So it’s not really that difficult to lie or manipulate, because doctors are told to believe what the caregiver/patient is saying to them.
      They are also mandated reporters, but that’s it. They don’t investigate, arrest, interrogate, etc. they just note that there is a concern but what happens after that is out of their hands. Often when these docs do report, the parent will leave the area and then the report goes into thin air.

    • @citrusbutter7718
      @citrusbutter7718 Před 3 měsíci +12

      They're not "the real villains" her mother was the one pulling all the levers, the Docters were all too happy to oblige despite their common sense knowing it was a lie. They're negligent and deserve their license taken away or even imprisoned too because i'm sure many of them knew, if anyone's evil it's the mother.

    • @twamsorry
      @twamsorry Před 3 měsíci

      they are not overlooked by anyone paying attention. at all. no one is a real monster bc monsters arent real. there are only monstrous humans. language needs to be clear and understandable. and I'm sure everyone else has already pointed out the other reasons why this comment is stupid

    • @LacquerLockdown
      @LacquerLockdown Před 3 měsíci +12

      I absolutely disagree with you on this one as an MD & a patient. First several physicians were suspicious of DR & one even wrote suspicions of MbP (munchausen). Every time physicians demanded records or tests to back up DR’s assertions they moved medical homes. I want you to also understand two very important things 1st Obama was the 1st POTUS to mandate all hospitals had to switch from paper records to electronic records the date set for overall compliance was 2016 or there in. That matters because up until that point record were handwritten & had to be faxed from hospital to hospital or obtained at cost by the patient & took forever.
      2nd - DR was smart enough to hop from hospitals not managed by the same systems making it even harder for MDs to obtain overall records especially once their house was destroyed & she could use that excuse. Finally, I will add a lot of pediatric medicine is hand holding parents. You will tell a parent a bone isn’t broken by your evaluation from a physical examination & parents will still demand the X-ray anyway. When I rotated on peds we discussed the fact that despite the X-RAY being unnecessary it was often done & weighted against the low risk small radiation versus parental upset, ill ease etc. the kids were more stoic than the parents quite often & that’s why I decided not to do peds because that level of appeasement frustrated me.
      However we all consider parents to have their child’s best interest when they bring their kids in to the hospital until we can find evidence otherwise & a wary conniving parent such as DR running away every time suspicious behavior was noticed makes it very hard for us to do our jobs. MbP is a diagnoses of exclusion meaning all other avenues must be explored 1st. Also MDs are mandatory reporters & most ppl who go into peds do so because they love children & love the practice. I doubt it’s down to the serial incompetence you’re alleging here.

  • @onceuponamelody
    @onceuponamelody Před 3 měsíci +1154

    Just fyi, there are people that can walk and still use wheelchairs called ambulatory wheelchair users. Joint issues, chronic pain, and fainting can be many reasons why people need a wheelchair even though they can walk. I am an ambulatory wheelchair user, so just because you see someone stand up from a chair and walk a bit, doesn't mean they don't need a wheelchair.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 Před 3 měsíci +60

      Yes! Glad to see someone say so!

    • @blueismylove3128
      @blueismylove3128 Před 3 měsíci +139

      I agree but I think it's understood that Gypsy's mom wanted people to think she couldn't walk at all

    • @claritey
      @claritey Před 3 měsíci +79

      ​@@blueismylove3128That was the image Dee Dee was trying to portray but the point is that Gypsy just standing up wouldn't have immediately outed her mother as a fraud. Family members did see Gypsy walk on more than one occasion but how Dee Dee explained it away was that Gypsy had good days and bad days but the bad days were getting more frequent so she has to stay in the chair more often.

    • @PPillow
      @PPillow Před 3 měsíci +16

      I'm glad I read through the comments before watching this. I obviously won't be watching now. I rarely see anyone talk about Nick being a self-admitted pedophile, but plenty of opinions based on accusations about Gypsy and rampant ableism.

    • @TheTroubledAdoptee
      @TheTroubledAdoptee Před 3 měsíci +34

      @@PPillowhey I’d actually watch it. I think u may find this one is different. I promise she is not ableist and states very neutral and fact based as well as exploring the mental health sides of Nicks diagnosis as well 🫂❤️

  • @fun-is-real
    @fun-is-real Před 3 měsíci +39

    I am an adult with autism. I get fed up of being spoken to like I am a 5 year old. I am just as smart as a neurotypical person

  • @Managable_Mayhem
    @Managable_Mayhem Před 3 měsíci +148

    While I understand her for hating her mother so much she wanted her gone, I absolutely LOATHE the fact she pretends the guy was the one who deserves the punishment. She made this happen, if not for her, it wouldn't have happened. Which is why I really do not like that she got out but he's still in there and she pretends like everything is peachy now.
    As much as she hated her, she sure as hell takes after her mother, doesn't she?

    • @jackgrattidge6236
      @jackgrattidge6236 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Yeah this is what is bothering me too. Personally I'd always have some sort of loyalty to the person who helped me whether I loved them or not. She may not intend to take after her mother but its clear she lacks the self-awareness/compassion to change her ways or seek the right help

    • @Managable_Mayhem
      @Managable_Mayhem Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@jackgrattidge6236 Well said.
      I certainly hope she'll get help or is getting it, because I'd hate to someday hear she did this all knowingly instead of it being something she does unaware. She wouldn't be the first victim that's filthy on the inside after all, and I hate it when those sorta things turn out to be true. So fingers crossed she's really not at all aware of her behavior. Not that that would make it less of a problem. :')

    • @kat8559
      @kat8559 Před 2 měsíci +1

      he raped her. they were both sentenced. she did her time. she has no control over how much time he has to serve. what is she supposed to do?

    • @Managable_Mayhem
      @Managable_Mayhem Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@kat8559 Or so she alleged anyway.
      For starters; acknowledging that she's at fault and maybe feel even a shred of emotion about pulling him into it in the first place. Among other things.
      She's acting like everything is peachy rosy after getting a guy involved into her vendetta. If that sits well with you, you do you, as weird as that is, but it does not sit well with most normal folks. Her behavior is weird to say the least. And as mentioned by others: For someone so upset about being manipulated and having her life ruined by her manipulative mother, she sure as sh!t doesn't mind doing the exact same.

    • @Nightman221k
      @Nightman221k Před měsícem +6

      You'd think she'd be less of a rat and show some gratitude. He did what she asked him to do. It's not like he had the motive and Gypsy did post the gloating messages after the murder and the video about him eating her out after eating brownies. She even played stupid to the officer when she was getting interrogated like she didn't know her mom was dead. She's got audacity to think she's an angel. I don't think anyone's going to miss DeeDee but Gypsy inherited so much of her twisted behavior from her mother.

  • @Kaelynjschneider
    @Kaelynjschneider Před 3 měsíci +1301

    My mom is a missing person. I’m a content creator and talk about her case, but I’m always looking spread her story with as many people as possible we are Alaskan native indigenous it’s really common for indigenous women to go missing and not be searched for her cases very very odd and we believe the police are involved I would be so grateful if you covered her story.

    • @ErinJeanette
      @ErinJeanette Před 3 měsíci +72

      What's her name? It would help to share something identifiable about her? Just saying she's "indigenous" is pretty vague. I hope you find her.

    • @RinaRoo2You
      @RinaRoo2You Před 3 měsíci +22

      @Swoop did you see this?

    • @brinazarski
      @brinazarski Před 3 měsíci +42

      The Lore Lodge might cover it if she disappeared in a national park (i think those are the specific stories they cover - still new to their channel). One of Simon Whistler’s writers might cover it for one of his podcasts as well (I would assume for Decoding the Unknown). I imagine there’s a possibility that penguinz0 and SomeOrdinaryGamers might cover it; they talk about a lot of things. Good luck

    • @Jordan-nw4sj
      @Jordan-nw4sj Před 3 měsíci +47

      @@ErinJeanette Tracy day, she went missing on Valentine's Day in 2019.

    • @josscasa
      @josscasa Před 3 měsíci +10

      @swoop

  • @vsailorsv
    @vsailorsv Před 3 měsíci +943

    I suffered many years of medical abuse at the hands of my mother. None of the doctors listened to me and I tried to run away multiple times. I’m so tired of seeing people saying Gypsy Rose could have just gotten help. Nobody has any idea what that is like. You feel so trapped and alone.
    I am continuing to work through my medical trauma and distrust of doctors over a decade later.

    • @karmAnonymous
      @karmAnonymous Před 3 měsíci +87

      I am in 100% agreement with you.... I'm truly disturbed by the absence of discernment & empathy.... How prevalent abuse is YET... Victim-blaming/shaming to go around...
      Also I have an extremely similar story to you.

    • @vsailorsv
      @vsailorsv Před 3 měsíci +42

      @@karmAnonymous It makes me so sad. She was a child at one point who actually had more mothering in prison than in her own home.
      I can count on one hand how many times I was allowed to hang out with friends. So I tended to hang with the more unsavory crowd because that’s who understood my long absences. I felt normal around them. I feel like Gypsy experienced the same thing with Nick. My life could have gone a whole different way if I didn’t escape at 18 with a boy. Gypsy didn’t even know how old she was?! That’s insane.
      The depth of her mother’s web of lies went way further than I’m sure Gypsy is aware of. I’m so happy to see her doing grwm and ootd. That was stolen from her.

    • @vsailorsv
      @vsailorsv Před 3 měsíci +17

      @@karmAnonymous edit to add I am so so sorry you went through something similar. Nobody will understand what a select few of us went through. I’m glad you’re ok friend ❤️

    • @reginaheath6131
      @reginaheath6131 Před 3 měsíci +23

      You went through horrible abuse and trauma, but I don't think you let someone in to k ill you mom.

    • @vsailorsv
      @vsailorsv Před 3 měsíci +62

      @@reginaheath6131 I didn’t but I wouldn’t fault another for doing so.
      I don’t think I went that route because I was a teenager when my trauma began so I had a good foundation of right and wrong to go upon. Gypsy’s started at I believe 6-8y.o and possibly sooner. You can’t tell me that wouldn’t fuck your concept of reality/right/wrong.
      If anything what she did was premeditated self defense.
      I mean ffs she thought she was 16 or something when she did it too.

  • @lyndsymarie4576
    @lyndsymarie4576 Před 8 dny +6

    I’m sorry but the fact that she has zero guilt that she convinced a man to kill her mother, and he’s sitting in prison for The rest of his life kind of says a lot, doesn’t it?!

  • @tanwynann
    @tanwynann Před 3 měsíci +27

    i have watched your videos for years but never commented but i feel it is important to do so now. whenever i see documentaries or videos on this case the one part i dread is the mention of ASD and DID. as someone with both i find the public view very isolating and distressing. the way you approached it (especially as someone who didnt feel the most informed so reached out to others) it made me feel seen and heard. it didnt make me feel like yet another person villinising the dissorders because someone who did a bad thing has it. i cannot express enough how much this is appreciated

  • @AKbaby89
    @AKbaby89 Před 3 měsíci +1108

    I know someone who was SA'd by their grandfather, and when the grandfather was arrested (and immediately admitted everything) , the grandmother (blood related btw) literally went around the neighborhood and to their friends and told everyone that the CHILD (12 at the time) was a wh0r3 and she was just lying because she wanted attention.
    I actually threw up when i found that out, i couldnt believe a FULL grown adult (in her late 60s) would do that to their first born granddaughter. Its truly insane that some people literally blame the victim. It makes me so mad. Karma is real though and she doesnt forget.

    • @watersignCHOLA214
      @watersignCHOLA214 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Wow! That’s very sick!! It seems both the grandparents are more concerned with image and hiding who they really are. The grandma knows what kind of perv she married. Smh.
      I hope the little girl is doing ok. I pray for healing of her mind, soul and body.

    • @fcklife182
      @fcklife182 Před 3 měsíci +114

      It’s insane what lengths families go to when they’re trying to remove the stain of being in close proximity to an SA’er…
      My favourite member of my family was my aunt. I loved her so much.
      When it finally came out that her son SA’d me, she accuses me of being a liar. That her son would never.
      I lost several members of my family that day. Sadly.
      But I can’t stay in contact with someone who refuses to believe a survivor.

    • @Aashka_The_Mystic
      @Aashka_The_Mystic Před 3 měsíci +42

      It probably wasn't the first time either. He most likely did that to other children and she would say the same, that it was the little girl's fault

    • @ajad420
      @ajad420 Před 3 měsíci +16

      Happens more than you know sadly

    • @AKbaby89
      @AKbaby89 Před 3 měsíci +11

      @Aashka_The_Empath yeah he always came off super creepy to me, I thought the same thing.

  • @blockhead514
    @blockhead514 Před 3 měsíci +933

    as an autistic person who is so sick of the way we're talked about in society in general - who also LOVES your videos - i have to admit i was nervous as the video began & the topic of autism inevitably came up. But my heart then filled with a surge of warm relief as you went on to say all good, informed, accurate stuff about us & about autism - without harping on it at all, purely being respectful while actually caring to learn what autistic people prefer. thank you so much!

    • @CaileighMadlyn
      @CaileighMadlyn Před 3 měsíci +75

      Same so sick of the way society talks about autistic people

    • @Alayhoo
      @Alayhoo Před 3 měsíci +1

      Same!!! Thank you for sharing your experience! I’m always so cautiously optimistic when non-autistic folks talk about our community so it was so refreshing and heartwarming to not feel disappointed yet again. Yay Swoop!

    • @freddyplaysgamesandmuchmor7285
      @freddyplaysgamesandmuchmor7285 Před 3 měsíci +48

      ​@@CaileighMadlynSame it's so sickening how we are treated. I get stereotyped a lot because I look "normal"

    • @CDN_Bookmouse
      @CDN_Bookmouse Před 3 měsíci

      People don't "believe" that I'm disabled even though my doctor was able to convince the government, which is notoriously hard to do here. The government believes me, but people who meet me don't because I can hold a conversation and walk around looking normal. They're fooled by the human suit I've zipped myself into >_>@@freddyplaysgamesandmuchmor7285

    • @avathegryffinclaw
      @avathegryffinclaw Před 3 měsíci +35

      me too. i always get so nervous when autistic people get brought up because of how it is used to excuse behaviour and make autistic people look aggressive and evil

  • @lns4life
    @lns4life Před 9 dny +6

    It's crazy that ppl idolize her now. Calling her "iconic" etc. Esp ppl like Tana Mongeau doing it. Dude regardless if we can be empathetic for what her mom put her through, she carefully planned and executed her mom's murder. Manipulated the dude sexually and emotionally to do so. She's smarter than what ppl think. A murderer CANNOT be an icon. Period.

  • @jhassvmusic2657
    @jhassvmusic2657 Před 10 dny +10

    Bro that first part says it all. “I don’t identify as a murderer” wtf! Like she is! Point blank period. She bought the knife, she manipulated Nick into doing it, she planed it, she requested it, she is the main one to blame.

  • @CottageCritter
    @CottageCritter Před 3 měsíci +674

    As a diagnosed autistic individual, when the heck did “on the spectrum” become bad? I’ve had autism since a kid and man, I can NOT keep up with the social standards of what I’m supposed to even call myself and I hate it. I thought using on the spectrum was emphasizing that autism is a spectrum and everyone’s needs are different. I really can’t keep up.
    Thank you for being respectful, it’s always hard to make everyone happy, but I think as long as your intent is good - that’s what matters. If anyone is offended by others doing their best they need to take a step back. It’s hard to get any respect or help, and then half the time people do there’s an argument over not helping the right way. It’s just not okay.
    Thank you for being respectful, mindful, and kind Swoop. You’re an actual Angel.

    • @stephaniecarrillo3800
      @stephaniecarrillo3800 Před 3 měsíci +75

      My son was diagnosed autistic and that's exactly how the psychologist explained it to me. He was on the spectrum. He's very smart and 'high functional' while my neighbors nephew was completely non verbal and required 24/7 care. When swoop started I was like wait we're not supposed to say that? 💀
      How I understood it was there's levels and needs that vary from one individual to the next. It's not a diagnosis that is fit into a perfect cut. What one required the next may not. My son is only 6 so it's not like I can ask him what his preference is yet but regardless I'm thankful he has since been diagnosed so his needs can be met.

    • @renfairegoddess
      @renfairegoddess Před 3 měsíci +70

      You can refer to yourself however you feel comfortable.
      I'm late diagnosed (45) Autistic. I very much DON'T like 'On the spectrum' because I view it as a way for people to avoid saying Autism/Autistic. They aren't bad words.
      I'd also prefer to use the term that people REALLY don't like (won't type it here), because it describes what I would have been diagnosed with as a child (80's).
      The problem with that is I (multiple degrees, live independently, no intellectual disabilities) am just as Autistic as the the person who can't speak, has intellectual disabilities, etc. As you know, those things aren't Autism, but education around what Autism actually IS is far behind what it should be.
      So, I'm stuck. Either infantalized or met with abelism if I bother to disclose my diagnosis.

    • @Redwaters
      @Redwaters Před 3 měsíci +58

      Originally I was identifying as having Asperger's. Then I was told that was wrong and I was supposed to use, "being on the spectrum".
      To be honest I'd rather use "on the spectrum" then to say I have a disorder, because saying I have a disorder feels like being autistic/neurodiverse is a bad thing.

    • @CottageCritter
      @CottageCritter Před 3 měsíci +19

      @@Redwaters same here, I grew up being told it was Asperger’s other than Florida public school system lovingly calling it the R slur for a few years.
      Personally I use on the spectrum if I’m around like new people? But prefer I have autism in serious situations or as reminders to people. I have a really hard time communicating things properly and always understanding body language and stuff so if you don’t know I have autism I seem either stupid or a bitch - no happy middle ground. I have a lot of “quirks” that I feel need the autism tag like when people think I’m rude for not eating their cooking but I’m reality their 13 layer lasagna is the texture nightmare fuel that makes my anxiety go so off the charts I can barely look at it let alone eat it.
      I think in many ways I’m todays culture it is still sadly a bad thing. It sucks but in reality the average person is not equipped or willing to have patience with mental disorders still and that’s devastating but the sad reality. I’d rather say I’m autistic and watch people who think it’s bad walk away, than sugar coat it and never know who really thinks awful of me.

    • @CottageCritter
      @CottageCritter Před 3 měsíci +16

      @@renfairegoddess for me I think it’s a personal experience. I like on the spectrum when I barely know someone or it’s not a serious situation because it’s easier for people to swallow. I regularly get the “you don’t look autistic” and I’d rather just say an easier term to swallow when I never have to see the person again so I can just get what I need and be done. Like when I don’t understand something at the store and need it explained. Much easier to say I’m on the spectrum than get into a 3 hour discussion on how I used to hit my head on tables as a kid and whipping out doctors diagnosis 🤦‍♀️
      When it’s people I know regularly or intend to be around again autism is the go to for me by a landslide. Regardless though I’ve never seen one or the other be offensive. In reality autism is a spectrum due to the education that’s around it. My parents refused to put me in special Ed and I was bullied to all hell and although I don’t think it was the right choice? I don’t think I’d be a functioning adult in the slightest without that experience. God bless survival masking lol
      But genuinely I think it’s so hard to even know what to say or do anymore to find respect or blend or even just exist as an autistic person anymore. I swear I isolate myself more and more by the year.

  • @Busyhriehfjeje
    @Busyhriehfjeje Před 3 měsíci +788

    Hi Swoop. Southern girl here. You mentioned around the 18 min mark that you found it weird that none of the adults or family said anything or did anything when they saw Gypsy jumping around when Deedee was gone but then pretending she couldn’t walk when Deedee returned. One aspect of southern culture (tho I’m sure it’s not just in the south, I just grew up here. I can promise you, people DID talk amongst themselves. But the thinking, especially amongst older generations was that it was a family matter, and not their place to say or do anything.
    I have witnessed this in my own life and family. There was a girl I used to carpool with who was being abused by a narcissistic mother. All the adults could see her (a 13 year old) acting out at school and everywhere else. All the adults could see and knew how “weird” her mother was. But nobody did anything because it’s “not our business.”
    People want to respect their neighbors privacy. And don’t want to meddle. However because of this mentality LOTS of children have gotten hurt and killed.
    I like to think things are getting better now. But alas I’m not sure. That being said, I will happily call CPS anonymously if I think something is wrong. I will call adult protective services as well for the same reason. I’ve done it before. I’ll do it again. Because damnit I know the system isn’t perfect, but I would rather be wrong and keep someone alive than right and let someone die.

    • @bekah22
      @bekah22 Před 3 měsíci +53

      I completely agree with you it’s part of the “culture” so to speak. A lot of movies and tv shows also tap into that when they depict the south

    • @opheliadays5803
      @opheliadays5803 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Check out the 90 by 30 project

    • @moatrboat
      @moatrboat Před 3 měsíci +31

      As someone whose family is mostly from the south this is 100% true. Folks like to pretend everything is fine all the time and it’s always seemed very eerily disingenuous

    • @charisvelasco9879
      @charisvelasco9879 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Thank you I was thinking the exact same thing, down here in the south people will talk in low voices amongst one another but in the end will always say “it’s none of our business.”

    • @littlesaltywalker
      @littlesaltywalker Před 3 měsíci +5

      Nothing but facts spoken.

  • @Oddytwin
    @Oddytwin Před 3 měsíci +28

    I'm gonna leave this as a singular thought because this wasn't mentioned in this Doc: The coroner's report states the mother was stabbed 17 times, but Nick has been adamant that he stabbed her only 4 times. Where did the other 13 times come from?

    • @patriciapearl2529
      @patriciapearl2529 Před 3 měsíci +12

      I believe gypsy did. There was a Barney stuffed animal found near Dee Dees body. I doubt Nick brought it to her bedroom so why was it there? Even the police mention this Barney. I think Gypsy stabbed her supervisor but nick did the more deadly stabs.

    • @jenniferwilliams3986
      @jenniferwilliams3986 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I heard she got two of the same type of knife that day and probably was in the room when her mom died and probably did the 13 and nick did the final four to end her life . She’s def as innocent in this as she previously claimed to be

    • @Oddytwin
      @Oddytwin Před 2 měsíci

      @jenniferwilliams3986 Without evidence, that is just conjecture and rumor. The point I brought is based off his statement and the coroner's report bringing educated conjecture. Without actually having evidence, this shouldn't be discussed

    • @katscratchfever3506
      @katscratchfever3506 Před 2 měsíci

      Yep yep

  • @irinak1532
    @irinak1532 Před 3 měsíci +8

    We all understand that she didn't have a chance to develop emotionally and (probably) intellectually in her formative years, but denying her part in the crime is just clueless at best and evil at worst.

  • @jordanziegra7624
    @jordanziegra7624 Před 3 měsíci +516

    Rod was also only 17 and still in highschool when Dee Dee got pregnant and I think she was like 24 years old.... I find that to be another extremely important factor as to Dee Dee's character but also as to why Rod seemingly distanced himself from her.... she was sleeping with a minor, which is a crime.

    • @cheryl8466
      @cheryl8466 Před 3 měsíci +43

      ❤ YES! I was going to comment the same thing. It's not just "Her dad wasn't around" there was a reason for that. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some serious manipulation going on between her parents well before she was born. We knew it happened after.
      I still don't think that's an excuse for him not getting involved.
      I'm still happy you brought this up.

    • @Zzz2x
      @Zzz2x Před 3 měsíci +9

      Also shows where Gypsy got to be manipulative

    • @harmlessdove1980
      @harmlessdove1980 Před 3 měsíci +6

      ​@@Zzz2x manipulators get manipulated.

    • @ThatLadyInDallas2024
      @ThatLadyInDallas2024 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Grifters gonna grift!
      Liars gonna lie.
      Schmurderers gonna schmurder!

    • @ellbee5139
      @ellbee5139 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Actually, age of consent in Louisiana is 17. While it's not a good look, it's also not a crime, and it's honestly a bit dangerous to make blanket statements about criminality like that because different states have different ages of consent. NY is 18, NJ and WA are 17, other states are 16, and outside the US, age of consent is commonly 16 (such as the UK).

  • @user-unfriendly_-o-
    @user-unfriendly_-o- Před 3 měsíci +581

    I think it's very important to mention now that just the fact that a disabled person in a wheelchair can walk or even jump doesn't mean that they are faking, there are different reasons for using a wheelchair. It was only a reason to be concerned in this case because people knew her exact diagnosis and it didn't match. Please, if you see a disabled person walking around or standing up, don't act rashly, people already face a lot of medical gaslighting and abuse about it.

    • @bubble778
      @bubble778 Před 3 měsíci +63

      Thank you ❤ this is very important. I have multiple sclerosis and when I park in disabled parking people stop me and question me.

    • @Diandra2011
      @Diandra2011 Před 3 měsíci +46

      ​@@bubble778 I have been yelled at for using disability parking because I "look healthy". It sucks.

    • @juanitarichards1074
      @juanitarichards1074 Před 3 měsíci +22

      I have arthritis in my spine and right hip....I can stand for a few minutes then the pain shoots up my spine and hip and my right leg starts to wobble and then I collapse. I have a wheelchair for going out and I have an office chair on wheels in my kitchen so I can cook and wash dishes etc. I can limp around my house for a few minutes but have chairs in strategic places to collapse into when my legs start to collapse. When I go to town in the wheelchair I have to plot my way where there are public toilets.

    • @Nous520
      @Nous520 Před 3 měsíci +4

      No no, the way gypsy said it- he didn’t know she was 15
      Dede found gypsy at his house and SHE told him she was 15 and he freaked out.
      Also I firmly believe gypsy has always known how old she is.

    • @Flowreach
      @Flowreach Před 3 měsíci +5

      This! My old housemate was in a wheel chair because she had a tumor in her ankle that couldn't be operated on without amputation. She could walk but it was extremely painful

  • @deenaweeks5837
    @deenaweeks5837 Před 3 měsíci +7

    YOU are SPOT ON! After everyone that has covered Gypsy Rose! I appreciate your honesty and integrity in covering this! I accidentally ran across your YT channel! I’m an old lady lol but I sure enjoyed your coverage THE MOST! Also let me say you are absolutely stunning! Great coverage and content again! Thank you

  • @DannyMancheno
    @DannyMancheno Před 3 měsíci +11

    I am so obsessed with SWOOP’s makeup. It just looks so good. I am OBSESSED.

  • @Madsterrrr
    @Madsterrrr Před 3 měsíci +687

    People need to acknowledge more that she was constantly under the influence of drugs that her mother was feeding to her, it took her so long to get over her addiction to the pain killers, she was never in the right state of mind because of this and I don’t ever see anyone acknowledge that when judging how she handled everything

    • @ismelllikeocean
      @ismelllikeocean Před 3 měsíci +120

      She also under went chemo... Like this shit is no joke.

    • @explore_with_em_x
      @explore_with_em_x Před 3 měsíci

      She was in the right state of mind to run away and meet men, to meet and sleep with nick, to hide social media accounts and phones.

    • @Nona-pie666
      @Nona-pie666 Před 3 měsíci +155

      The drugs, the abusive medical treatment, the mental abuse, and the stunting of education. I dont see how anyone can judge her. I have no clue what I'd do in her position. I feel people keep viewing her as her age and not truly considering all these factors.

    • @Madsterrrr
      @Madsterrrr Před 3 měsíci +74

      @@Nona-pie666 exactly. All those factors, plus the fact that she had tried to run away multiple times and had even tried to tell doctors that she thinks she is not sick just for nothing to happen, like how can anyone say she’s a ‘manipulator’ or whatever

    • @Kaiser_MHA
      @Kaiser_MHA Před 3 měsíci +78

      @@Madsterrrr
      Because Gypsy does display very manipulative behaviour & has even admitted she learned manipulative behaviour from her mother. Again, she is a victim & that is totally valid but she is also an adult woman who doesn’t need the entire internet telling her she never did anything wrong & that she’s a role model. The kind of attention people are giving her is the exact kind of attention that caused her mother’s behaviour to deteriorate.
      Also, read the texts…

  • @corvidae6773
    @corvidae6773 Před 3 měsíci +343

    As a fellow autistic person; no, Nick probably did not realize he could lie to make himself look better. To many of us, if you're asked a question, you answer it as factually as possible, and it often leads to a lot of problems, because others will assume there's more/hidden meaning behind our answers.

    • @PettyUniversity
      @PettyUniversity  Před 3 měsíci +81

      Thank you so much for your insight 💙

    • @TheRPGNerd
      @TheRPGNerd Před 3 měsíci +71

      at the same time i really hate how ppl act like he couldnt have known something was wrong. we arent literal children.

    • @elliotostling5850
      @elliotostling5850 Před 3 měsíci +33

      On the other side though I lie all the time because of my autism in an attempt to fit it

    • @iUnderstand
      @iUnderstand Před 3 měsíci +19

      ​@@TheRPGNerdYou could always just choose not to identify with him. Everyone is different, even if they have commonalities, or even the same diagnosis... Just because Nick is dumb and was said to have the mind of a 15-16 year old forever, doesn't mean he didn't know better- but it also doesn't mean that he could fully grasp what the consequences of his love-lured actions would be. And just because he's autistic doesn't mean he's like you

    • @moonwalkerangel7008
      @moonwalkerangel7008 Před 3 měsíci

      ⁠@@elliotostling5850Masking is a method to conceal Autistic traits from society so they “belong” with the majority. It is a social survival strategy. Or in other words, pretending to be something else. It is a form of lying. Sadly it does have consequences for anyone mask but until everyone can accept each other, Masking is the only way. I do empathise because masking is not easy and it can be exhausting.

  • @dumbpinkthing
    @dumbpinkthing Před 3 měsíci +10

    omg the way u described the perspective of someone witnessing what happened in the “setting the stage” part.. please write a book, i would read it in a heartbeat. u have SUCH a way with words

  • @alexfudge1209
    @alexfudge1209 Před 3 měsíci +34

    I have strongly been against Gypsy Rose becoming an icon for the public. Any time I have spoken against it, I’m always met with a similar response such as “She was a VICTIM. She is being wrongfully punished,” etc. But the truth of the matter is, more and more things are starting to come out and my suspicion is that something is going to happen again. She WAS a victim. She IS a survivor. A lot of times, people have a hard time coming out of survival mode after being in it for so long unless they get the necessary help, and I hope she does. Her story is heartbreaking and SWOOP has done a great job of dissecting everything. But if she’s not getting the help she needs, she’s dangerous. She’s angry and that’s something that is alarming. Switching realities is a coping mechanism and that’s also not safe because what happens when you begin to question someone with control issues? Gaslighting and manipulation. I feel for the poor girl but at the end of the day, I don’t think she should’ve gotten out.

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Most sociopaths were abused or neglected in their childhood. That’s how they become manipulative and potentially murderous.

  • @LadyDnMiller
    @LadyDnMiller Před 3 měsíci +422

    I was diagnosed late with AuDHD. (Autism and ADHD). I almost cried when the girl said "When I tell people I have autism, they talk to me like I am five years old. They think I am incapable." This hits home for me. I am not disabled enought to recieve accommodations but I am looked down upon for being a person with Autism. I have to showcase my degree to PROVE to people I no what I am talking about. I have to showcase my career to PROVE that I am a fuctioning adult. On top of proving myself, as a Black woman from the south. I have to prove myself everyday and I shouldn't.

    • @aspen4786
      @aspen4786 Před 3 měsíci +28

      So very real. I’m in college right now, and have to be very careful when choosing who to talk about my medical issues (adhd, autism, ptsd). Typically when I mention I’m autistic, people will treat me an entirely different way. It’s like they’re suddenly around a toddler instead of a 20 year old. The women just give me weird looks and avoid me, and the men just baby talk me. It’s so infuriating, especially when among peers in my studies many tend to look down on me and see my knowledge as lesser because of my conditions. I feel you so much, and just wanted to let you know you’re not alone in your emotions and experiences. Rooting for you all the way. ❤️

    • @DJ-iu5bb
      @DJ-iu5bb Před 3 měsíci +7

      im on the spectrum a also Autism and ADHD im a white native american person also from the South yeah they need to stop doing that yeah its like walking into walls all week like Tony Soprano says like interactions with people its like you like thinking did I say something wrong did I overshare like I be feeling like pushing people away the Mental Health issues is real in this Country

    • @DJ-iu5bb
      @DJ-iu5bb Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@aspen4786 you not wrong once you say that Women do avoid me or baby talk me and really be weird like they liked you before you said you said Autism its like a Huge Ick for both Genders I honestly hate it cause im well educated and I had all As in High Schools being Discriminated like that feels so wrong

    • @jayjacks7474
      @jayjacks7474 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Stop allowing ppl to know this truth about you so they wouldn't authorize judged

    • @wisecatlady
      @wisecatlady Před 3 měsíci +4

      How did you get tested for ASD? I’m having a hard time finding someone for it

  • @Mumblesmcghee69
    @Mumblesmcghee69 Před 3 měsíci +361

    My mother was constantly beaten down by her mother. She was the kid my grandma picked on. So she was severely damaged by my grandmother. I was severely abused physically, mentally, emotionally, and sexually as a child and my mom just kinda let it happen but never fought for me.
    As a brand new mother and even before pregnancy, I actively strive to end this cycle. I’ve gone through EMDR therapy for my PTSD, I’ve continued CBT and DBT therapy, and I am constantly working with my husband to end this cycle and prevent my son from being hurt by me.
    I WILL end this abuse cycle. I WILL give my child a good, happy, and positive environment to grow up in. And I WILL make sure my child is SAFE!!

    • @itsninjamo752
      @itsninjamo752 Před 3 měsíci +21

      You’re amazing I am doing the same this awful cycle stops here. How did you find EMDR?

    • @narellegoddard7672
      @narellegoddard7672 Před 3 měsíci +16

      I really commend you for actually taking action in stopping the cycle. Good intentions are all good but its the outcome that matters in the end. And don't worry honey, trust yourself because you ARE different, you are changing it, by talking about it, talking to hubby and working together of course you can do this. When we really commit us humans can do anything. Enjoy being a mum, you will do great. And when you need help along the way, just ask for support, there is growth there and no shame, that's dumb it's how we learn and grow, we teach each other. Good luck sweetheart.❤

    • @maggierozmanith6542
      @maggierozmanith6542 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@itsninjamo752EMDR - no proof of being effective…. You’ll get the same effect with trauma desensitisation, so basically EMDR without silly eye twitching. Best of luck to you, ANY therapy is better than no therapy xx (C-PTSD here as well)

    • @renee1961
      @renee1961 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I just wanted to say I'm so sorry for your suffering. You're an Amazing, Strong Woman! God Bless You, and your little Family.🩷🩷🩷🤗🤗🤗💐💐💐🧸🧸🧸

    • @lhr8833
      @lhr8833 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Thanks for ending the cycle.

  • @ragamuffin0330
    @ragamuffin0330 Před 15 dny +2

    I have watched countless documentaries about this case and this is by far the most detailed. Best one I’ve seen yet.

  • @ecgc22
    @ecgc22 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Here's a thought, think about how much DISCIPLE it would have taken on GR's part not to move her legs?! The snippet of her "jumping" into the snow, she doesn't move her legs. It's kind of really impressive when you think about it. It's also just as sad because that means she held THAT much fear/anger/contempt/rage/oppression as well. It's a really crazy thought to think about.

  • @DuckTalesAwoo0oo
    @DuckTalesAwoo0oo Před 3 měsíci +371

    I was SA'd by my grandfather (my grandparents adopted me) from age 6 to 16.....when I told my grandmother (adopted mother) her response was "oh, that's ridiculous! He's your father!" I will NEVER FORGET THAT. I was 19 when I finally spoke up without feeling like I was wrong.
    May they both rot.

    • @welshlady
      @welshlady Před 3 měsíci +8

    • @cinthiaham1517
      @cinthiaham1517 Před 3 měsíci +28

      I am so sorry that the adults around you failed you. I hope you are well ❤

    • @scheenekendrick9009
      @scheenekendrick9009 Před 3 měsíci +21

      How do people just automatically not believe a child. I’m so sorry you weren’t protected

    • @StillJustDenise
      @StillJustDenise Před 3 měsíci +34

      I was also SA’d by my grandfather,and my grandmother caught him,walked away and told me the next morning that “I should be ashamed for seducing her husband”,I was 5. Your comment truly touched my heart,and it’s my hope that anyone reading this learns to ALWAYS LISTEN TO A CHILD, and advocate and help them!!!😢

    • @goitseonemontsho684
      @goitseonemontsho684 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Thank you for being big and brave. I hope you feel safe right now.I am assuming you are a Black man from your dp and even more kudos to you because that is a demographic that is often shut down from speaking on their experiences. Sending you love💜💜💜💜💜💜

  • @brittwilhoit
    @brittwilhoit Před 3 měsíci +251

    I think a couple important things to remember about Gypsy are that 1 she was infantalized by her mother. Between not going to school, being told she was younger than she was, and being denied the social interaction of her age and she probably did not fully understand all of her options. 2. She grew up in the spotlight thanks to her mom and then her crime. It is literally all she knows.

    • @LyxiLynnn
      @LyxiLynnn Před 3 měsíci +35

      Not only that but she was fed so many mind alternating medications. How anyone things she's this evil mastermind is insane

    • @calypso_lazuli
      @calypso_lazuli Před 3 měsíci +15

      @@LyxiLynnnAfter thinking about this case many times over and over again, I just can’t entirely blame her for most of her decisions… it’s one of those cases where there’s way too many nuances…. I remember years ago a similar case happened with a 15 year old boy named Cody who killed his father and step-mother, and throughout the case it came about that he was being s3xu@ly abused throughout his teenage years by the hands of his step-mother and his father had a lot to do with it, and I had a similar feeling in that case like I do with Gypsy Rose.

    • @BriEMcN
      @BriEMcN Před 3 měsíci +8

      Plus going to prison in early adulthood and surrounded by bad influences and yes men who told her that she didn't do anything wrong and likely told her everything she's now saying. Like her boyfriend could make his own decisions, etc. I've been to jail (not prison but it's the same type of women) twice and know how women in jail think. She was famous and had a good reason to do what she did, and they would've eaten that up and encouraged her thinking she's not in the wrong at all.
      She's only ever had terrible influences and never had good ones. People's expectations for her are too high

    • @calypso_lazuli
      @calypso_lazuli Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@BriEMcN not only that but her development and reasoning skills are messed up bc of how she was raised, it’s almost like survival skills and defense mechanisms come into play on how to get out of a situation on top of being a child and thinking like one. And like you said she’s always been a “celebrity” and is used to being in the limelight, she’s used to the lies, she’s used to playing a character, that’s all she knows. This case is just totally messed up the more I think about it.

    • @sophine7189
      @sophine7189 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@BriEMcN not true. She had plenty of therapist explained to her what she did wrong and what she could have done differently. She explains that in an interview when they asked her If she would change something if she could do this all over again.

  • @sneakyboo
    @sneakyboo Před 3 měsíci +7

    Just had to say how appreciated your information at the beginning of this episode regarding how to address an Autistic Person is really insightful and appreciated. I'm glad that you take the care to find that out and share it with your audience. Thank you!

  • @amandafalck1407
    @amandafalck1407 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Hand fricken CLAP!!! SWOOP YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB COVERING ALLLLLLLLL OF THIS STORY! I'm proud of your work on this project, I commend you for literally leaving me with NO questions pertaining to this story. You go Lady!

  • @Emymagdalena
    @Emymagdalena Před 3 měsíci +310

    Her husband thinking she is easily manipulated is a red flag 🚩 for me

    • @Latoya-
      @Latoya- Před 3 měsíci +53

      The both of them are trying out manipulate each other.. their whole relationship dynamic is weird. I don't see them lasting too much longer. He is just a convenience for the time being to her. And she is a little vulnerable girl to him. It's all gross.

    • @jillmarie4240
      @jillmarie4240 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@Latoya-right?? She is just as manipulative!! They both are.

    • @Latoya-
      @Latoya- Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@jillmarie4240 💯💯 it's clear as the air. I don't know how these people out here snapping at others comments speaking out on her, or are praising her, don't see who she really is. Smh it's just yuk to me

    • @cyberfiretiger5825
      @cyberfiretiger5825 Před 3 měsíci

      It’s a codependent relationship if I’ve ever seen one. “The D is 🤮”

    • @katscratchfever3506
      @katscratchfever3506 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Latoya-you called it!

  • @Kelga80
    @Kelga80 Před 3 měsíci +394

    My thoughts on her are that she needs therapy to deal with all aspects of her past and should not be on social media. This isn’t good for her and won’t help her grow into a well adjusted adult. Her life has been the weirdest roller coaster. She needs a life that is stable without the eyes of millions on her.

    • @sugarplum2467
      @sugarplum2467 Před 3 měsíci

      She's already like 30, she's full grown. She'll be trash til she dies let her enjoy her fame, you can tell she loves being in the spotlight for gruesomely murdering someone and ruining someone's life even though he truly cared for her.

    • @ellaartenstein853
      @ellaartenstein853 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Which would be easier if people with millions of subscribers weren’t making videos on her

    • @Stormy_Cloud
      @Stormy_Cloud Před 3 měsíci

      Gypsy doesn't want a simple life -- she only wants fame and fortune. She has ill intentions.

    • @jogrant3851
      @jogrant3851 Před 3 měsíci

      it's unlikely she'll ever become a well adjusted adullt, but will learn to pretend she's one.

    • @Kelga80
      @Kelga80 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@ellaartenstein853 Unfortunately she can't control that. Her story became a public sensation. I'm thinking more about her own personal mental health and mental growth. I don't think she personally should be on social media. I don't think she understands it and can handle it as well as she thinks she can. Of course she's an adult and can make her own choices, but I honestly don't see this ending well for her.

  • @donalpaccio4233
    @donalpaccio4233 Před 3 měsíci +6

    I'm not able to finish this video. It's so upsetting. But Swoop, as always, thank you for making your docuseries on important topics. See you in future films

  • @keekees_chorus
    @keekees_chorus Před 3 měsíci +5

    Thank you for including both sides of the coin, it really helps to see things by all accounts.

  • @rynrcookie77
    @rynrcookie77 Před 3 měsíci +608

    The more I have learned about her life & her case, the only conclusion I can come to is that she needs time to not be in the spotlight and processing her trauma. The fact that there are those that have jumped in immediately to capitalize on her puts her, once again, in a similar position that she was in under her mother which is highly concerning for her mental health. In order to make money off of her, they need her to be more sympathetic & more of a "perfect victim". Between Gypsy Rose and Britney Spears, we just need to have more conversations around trauma consumption. Obviously, their voices are incredibly important in the telling of their stories, but where is the line of continuing taking advantage of them for monetary gain? How do we, as consumers, help draw that line without silencing?

    • @trinitybernhardt9944
      @trinitybernhardt9944 Před 3 měsíci +31

      I feel the same. I was happy she was getting out and maybe posted good fir her, but I haven't followed her post release, because I don't believe it is good for her or us to glorify her. If I had been in her corner I might have advised one interview to acknowledge everything, but then at least 1-5 years of just living her life out of the spotlight, getting therapy and adjusting to a free life. I have no idea what her mind and maturity is, but I cannot imagine it is the same as the average person raised without her abuse. I wonder who is speaking into her life and how much that is affecting her.

    • @SmilerORocker
      @SmilerORocker Před 3 měsíci +21

      Agreed, she just needs time to become herself. Saying that, her mother made her a public figure before her demise, I'm in Ireland and knew about her before then, so I guess we shouldn't really be too surprised that this is happening now. Hopefully it can all settle down soon and she can live as 'normal' as any of the rest of us,... whatever that actually appears as.

    • @sandrawaterlily4740
      @sandrawaterlily4740 Před 3 měsíci +7

      This exactly, she needs to find some balance in life and everyone jumping to capitalize on her popularity/notoriety doe not give that to her.

    • @Globelle
      @Globelle Před 3 měsíci +5

      In addition she is making plenty of money from this crime. Her ex boyfriend has mental health issues and he will spend his life in prison.

    • @anonymousviewer328
      @anonymousviewer328 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Pretty sure she had that time while she was in prison. She served her time and is allowed the same privileges as you and I going forward. She can use social media if she wants to.

  • @livalex24
    @livalex24 Před 3 měsíci +538

    the one thing i wish was addressed in this is the MASSIVE amount of drugs Gypsy has been on her entire life. even with the amount of surgeries and chemo, and just meds in general will absolutely mess your mind state up. we need to talk about what drugs she was on/affected her at the time of this choice. even her finding out her real age and that she didn’t actually have all these illness would be absolutely earth shattering and mind altering. also coming out of prison and having an overwhelming amount of people that validate your choices will absolutely make you wonder if you actually did do something right and that you’re understood. this situation is not something you can look at logically, unfortunately. it truly just doesn’t have logistics involved, there was mental illness, drugs, disabilities, abuse, manipulation, lying, and lack of education that we just simply can not begin to study and comprehend. not justifying her because i feel for her on a law level/mental health since i grew up with teachers and a mom who is a public defender and mental health professional, so i deal with these things every day. but i do not feel that she should be a celebrity and placed as such, i would call her more an advocate and a survivor and treated ass such. speak her story and educate others, but not be seen as a role model and influencer… idk

    • @CableRat
      @CableRat Před 3 měsíci +8

      I never thought about that!!!!

    • @LusciousTwinkle
      @LusciousTwinkle Před 3 měsíci +8

      Wait! She had chemo? I thought that was her mum lying?

    • @livalex24
      @livalex24 Před 3 měsíci +18

      @@LusciousTwinkle she didn’t have cancer but her mom ended up convincing doctors that she needed the chemo. i’m almost positive but i’d definitely look into it before stating it as a fact!

    • @Leanne_w
      @Leanne_w Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@LusciousTwinkle she didn’t have chemo.. she also didn’t take all those meds

    • @ronnie-lynn
      @ronnie-lynn Před 3 měsíci +16

      YES! I don’t understand why this is never addressed! She was drugged and medicated by her mother to the point meds she didn’t need gave her side effects to severe that DOCTORS saw them as symptoms to Diseases, illnesses or disorders! Like what????!!!!!!!! That’s such a huge part to this story and why is this not being addressed!

  • @nancyjones6780
    @nancyjones6780 Před 3 měsíci +19

    Correction: the Proxy is the Caregiver not the victim, thus Munchausen by Proxy means Munchausen inflicted by Caregiver, the Proxy.
    It's actually now officially called Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another but people seem to prefer the original name.❤

  • @kailadawn92
    @kailadawn92 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I just have to say your thoroughness to insure all people are respected and feel safe here by doing research or talking to professionals to remain inclusive is admirable. I’ve seen many other true crime channels or channels in general, speak about autistic people using functioning labels and other things that prove they haven’t done the research that should have been performed before publishing a video speaking about such a vulnerable community. So thank you 💕

  • @Mommywantsvodka1
    @Mommywantsvodka1 Před 3 měsíci +300

    As someone who had a mother who has Münchausen Syndrome by Proxy, it’s such a complicated topic. You learn to understand that no one can help you and it seems, in Gypsy’s case, it definitely stunted her emotional growth. She seems to think like a smaller child - and she was fairly young when the unaliving occurred.

    • @lazarnicoleta8770
      @lazarnicoleta8770 Před 3 měsíci +5

      She had 24 years.

    • @sava-smth
      @sava-smth Před 3 měsíci +23

      ​@@lazarnicoleta8770 yes. In prison. Don't think it was a vacation trip.

    • @pmbp6584
      @pmbp6584 Před 3 měsíci +5

      She was very young. 23 is still the midst of brain development for someone who hasn’t been through constant trauma and infantilization. Slathered absolutely no way she could have been able to grow emotionally or mentally as a normal child under those conditions. And it definitely couldn’t have happened during incarceration, or while under the media microscope afterward. I feel like she needs to be out of the public eye and be given the opportunity to just be a kid, safely, with therapy. You see adults who never got to “experience their 20’s” or whatever and they hit middle age and they have a crisis and start acting like they’re 21 and completely f up their lives. She needs to just be left alone and be allowed to live the way she needs to in order to heal, because literally none of us have experienced what she did.

  • @impagain
    @impagain Před 3 měsíci +601

    Me, an autistic woman, learning for the first time through this video that apparently we don't like the term "on the spectrum" now 😭😭 I can't keep up with what is and isn't acceptable to call ourselves anymore

    • @willow.bell.illustration
      @willow.bell.illustration Před 3 měsíci +87

      I'm right there with you, lol, I just avoid talking to people about it at all now. AuDHD diagnosed since 5, yet I still can offend people in my own community. I can't keep up. ☠️

    • @XxElfriedexX
      @XxElfriedexX Před 3 měsíci +83

      I'm also autistic and could care less what people want to call/label me lmao. I don't see the point of getting offended over stuff like that.

    • @HalBoswell
      @HalBoswell Před 3 měsíci +106

      I literally called myself an “autistic person” once and some neurotypical person corrected me saying, “oh, person with autism.”

    • @claritey
      @claritey Před 3 měsíci +65

      ​@@HalBoswellThe audacity! Neurotypicals do not get to decide what you call yourself.
      I once heard it compared to having a handbag vs having blue eyes. A handbag is a separate thing from from you so you would be a "person with a handbag" not a "handbagged person." Contrast that with having blue eyes which is part of you. "Blue-eyed person" and "person with blue eyes" both work.

    • @bethwooldridge738
      @bethwooldridge738 Před 3 měsíci +40

      I'm not autistic, but I did find that part rather strange as it is very much a spectrum...as are most things I guess

  • @crittycat
    @crittycat Před 3 měsíci +1

    not on topic of the video but i want to say that baby girl you are MORE than an influencer. your incredible heart and mind shine through these docs and personally i just love you more and more every time you post. you are the kind of person we need influencing people of all ages. thank you for all your hard work on these amazing docs

  • @tommyross3298
    @tommyross3298 Před 8 dny +3

    Thank you for diving into the complexities of this case. I feel like no one understands the implications of perpetually locking up someone who has a diagnosis of being highly susceptible to manipulation, while letting the highly accomplished manipulator with no such diagnoses (that we know of) off after a couple of years (during which she has consistently refused any form of therapeutic help).

  • @katherinerybski3925
    @katherinerybski3925 Před 3 měsíci +71

    A teenage girl who was failed by the police, failed by doctors, declared incompetent, and saw no other way out convinced (manipulated) a man who loved her to the point they would have done literally anything for her to murder the woman that had tortured her for almost two decades. A tragedy every which way.
    Honestly the people I am most angry with in this whole ordeal are all of the professionals and bystanders around this situation who so deeply failed everyone involved.

    • @redshed2020
      @redshed2020 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Several of the docs saw and documented something was off. She would immediately move before anything could be done about it.

  • @SophieTalksTooMuch
    @SophieTalksTooMuch Před 3 měsíci +258

    1:18:45 as an autistic I’m so glad you talked to Rebecca! I love her, Just a thought : Autistic people are not incapable of being manipulative, narcissistic, and abusive, you can be autistic and a sociopath, but you can also be autistic and an empath, this explains how there are people like Greta and Elon with the same diagnoses but completely different personalities and morals

    • @amandamandamands
      @amandamandamands Před 3 měsíci +20

      Exactly. Being extremely honest, not understanding sarcasm or sayings are extremely common traits. We are still the same as anyone else that we can learn and adapt to our surroundings and what we have to do/say to survive

    • @wsrtwetr
      @wsrtwetr Před 3 měsíci

      Greta is a communal narcicist who enjoys feeling moral superiority over others. Elon is just your typical narcicist. They both think they are better than most people in their own 'unique' way. Only difference is one has money to show for it, while the other one looks like she might join antifa.

    • @ilmianafirmantika8079
      @ilmianafirmantika8079 Před 3 měsíci +19

      Greta and Elon is such a great comparison. Couldn't agree more

    • @quinnfarris
      @quinnfarris Před 3 měsíci +7

      Much like anyone else, theres a wide array of autistic people with widely different lifes and morals. Has nothing to do with being a "sociopath" or an "empath" lmao

    • @SophieTalksTooMuch
      @SophieTalksTooMuch Před 3 měsíci +11

      @@quinnfarris yes it does, my point was you can have dual diagnosis of sociopathy and autism, which is relevant to the case at hand

  • @neilgaiman88
    @neilgaiman88 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ok so appreciate how much thought and care you and your team put into this video HOWEVER:
    I been looking for those earrings for a solid half of this video and I am begging you, Queen Swoop, where o' where does one find these?

  • @amandaelle1462
    @amandaelle1462 Před měsícem

    Thank you for not only caring about how you speak about autism but sharing what you learned at the beginning of the video! 🙌🏻🌸

  • @ewarrior9776
    @ewarrior9776 Před 3 měsíci +339

    Trivia Note: Gypsy Rose Blanchard was most likely named after berlesque entertainer Gypsy Rose Lee who was imortalized in the musical Gypsy (1959) and the film of the same name (1962.) The play and film is about a domineering stage mother who lived through and controlled her daughter until she was an adult and started her career as a stripper much to her mother's chagrin. The parallels are uncanny.

    • @KaileyB616
      @KaileyB616 Před 3 měsíci +22

      Dude that's friggin wild!

    • @RKingis
      @RKingis Před 3 měsíci +11

      I thought about that movie too when my Mom had me watch The Act last week.

    • @elzbieta78
      @elzbieta78 Před 3 měsíci +30

      Her dad said somewhere - I think in that long Buzzfeed piece - that it’s a coincidence. They thought Gypsy was a cool name (not touching that one) and they liked Guns N Roses, plus Rose is one of those classic girl middle names anyhow. Her dad had never heard of Gypsy Rose Lee and he doesn’t remember DeeDee bringing up the association.
      But yes, it’s an interesting parallel.

    • @lisaemery8871
      @lisaemery8871 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Wow interesting thanks for sharing that

    • @clubbywubbie
      @clubbywubbie Před 3 měsíci +4

      No babe. It was the Aerosmith song covered by guns n roses where they got her name 😅 y'all make up anything.

  • @jesusyourmom
    @jesusyourmom Před 3 měsíci +178

    I was mentally and emotionally abused, and as a child i had a diary about my fantasies drawing my then stepmother getting stabbed or my father becoming terminally ill and dying with my crayons. I would dream about me murdering my abusers in many ways. My stepmother found the diary and didnt tell anyone (probably because then we would have to talk about why an elementary schooler wanted two specific people to die) but she guilted me.
    Eventually my homicidal thoughts turned to suicidal thoughts. But i would like to make one thing clear. That level of control from birth can create a multitude of horrendous thoughts. A kid just wants to be loved, And when they dont feel that they dream of escaping. I am not surprised that gypsie rose thought of murdering her mother since there probably wasnt another possible way in her mind of ever being loved by her.
    Abuse like that can make someone crazy. You were manipulated since a baby or for her since a real small kid so your perception of right and wrong are completely skewed. Murder is wrong but there is an obvious reason why some have those thoughts. She was driven to the brink of insanity

    • @taylorschahn5596
      @taylorschahn5596 Před 3 měsíci +24

      I honestly do not believe the majority can even conceive of this experience or how they would handle it. They should be thankful they can't and withhold their judgment. It's so easy to judge from the comfort of your iPhone. I wish everyone would get off their self-righteous high horse. This is a wildly complex and nuanced situation. Everyone desperately wants a good guy/bad guy scenario, wrapped up all tidy like a Marvel movie. I am sorry that happened to you. I hope that you are safe and happy and loved. You deserve it. ❤️

    • @Alligatorlator
      @Alligatorlator Před 3 měsíci +4

      I’m sorry what happened to you and I hope you are healing.

    • @P4Stalot
      @P4Stalot Před 3 měsíci +10

      I thought this was normal, but so many people say sh*t like "I wouldn't wish ___ on my worst enemy," and I'm like ??? Apparently you've lived a charmed life, then, if you don't hate anyone. Unrelatable folks.

    • @dana102083
      @dana102083 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@P4Stalotlmao

  • @katewood2614
    @katewood2614 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you so much for providing both sides of the situation so well. I see this case in a completely different light now. She said she’s in therapy so hopefully if they do decide to have children she won’t continue the cycle.

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 Před 3 měsíci +10

    The "Good Wives" channel tells a much deeper story. "Fancy" from that channel claims she was doing a documentary with the cooperation of Gypsy's family. In that pursuit, she even acquired Gypsy's medical records. There is a somewhat condensed version of Fancy's research on the channel "Excited Utterance", two weeks ago. This information tells quite a different story.

    • @London263
      @London263 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ya, very interesting

    • @sarahg1583
      @sarahg1583 Před 3 měsíci

      Fancy is a liar. She has a vendetta against the family & her narrative is based on pure hatred.
      Since often says "I'm the real deal, google my name". Take her up on it & you'll see she has *ZERO* credibility.
      ETA -- I spent 2-3 weeks going down that rabbit hole, but since then someone has placed all the information in one place.
      Go to Encyclopedia Dramatica and search for her name. It's all there with sources.

    • @sophiar6996
      @sophiar6996 Před 3 měsíci

      Thanks! Gypsy is a grifter that has conned everyone. It’s sickening.

    • @christi776
      @christi776 Před 3 měsíci

      Just looked at their videos and there are so many idk where to start.

  • @danicasoper6545
    @danicasoper6545 Před 3 měsíci +55

    In the context of an extreme situation, when someone says "I would have done this," you can pretty much ignore it. They're telling you how they HOPE they would handle it.

  • @impposter560
    @impposter560 Před 3 měsíci +263

    At the 20 min mark and I have to say; children that young CAN exhibit those behaviors, and you should never, ever ignore it. It means that something has happened to them, that they are repeating behaviors they have seen/experienced. Its a huge, HUGE red flag and people shouldn't dismiss it as them 'being too young' to exhibit such behaviors. Even if it was 'only' repeated exposure to seeing other people act inappropriately in front of them (which is very wrong too), they can still emulate that behavior. I DON'T believe the grandfather, personally, but just for anyone out there who sees a child acting/touching/speaking inappropriately; they don't know what they're doing, but the person who taught them that behavior dam well does. Its an echo of what they've seen/experienced and people should listen to it.
    (tho this does not always apply to ND children who struggle with boundary issues/appropriate behavior)

    • @itsninjamo752
      @itsninjamo752 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Excellent point to bring up 👏🏻

    • @BethanySchmidtEsthetics
      @BethanySchmidtEsthetics Před 3 měsíci +25

      THIS part! My parents were foster parents and we had to keep children as young as 4 & 5 who had been SA’d, away from other children because they 100% emulated what had been done to them. It’s not their fault. It’s a blaring red flag!

    • @notimportant9922
      @notimportant9922 Před 3 měsíci +16

      this!! as someone who was sa'd in childhood (then blackmailed about it) by other children, it honestly hurts to hear the statement that it isnt at all possible for children to purposefully do those things and know the intent behind it. especially when some of those people continued on with that behavior into adulthood.

    • @blondesense1708
      @blondesense1708 Před 3 měsíci +12

      Yes. It is probably the hugest indicator of CSA. It can also be an indicator there is a lack of boundaries in the parent child relationship. A child in my family was being very inappropriate with relatives and visitors and we were extremely concerned and took them straight to a therapist. After numerous forensic interviews it was found the child had an overly close relationship with their bio mother - bathing together, spooning all night and for hours, frequently nude and being overly tactile. The child simply had no concept of privacy when it came to nudity, toileting or contact with the ‘bathing suit’ areas.

    • @cinthiaham1517
      @cinthiaham1517 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Do you have sources for this? I’m genuinely curious because of personal experience that I have never been able to explain.

  • @karlaehwalsh
    @karlaehwalsh Před měsícem

    Swoop I just want to say thank you for your content prospective and the way you put these cases for caring for all the conditions and help with assisting with info in all the situations people may have and to add this hair is phenomenal! You are awesome! Thank you for you!
    Your validation prospective is beautiful! Love your content!

  • @TeeWillisMusic
    @TeeWillisMusic Před 3 měsíci +5

    loved this & how you delivered. also thanks for not asking us to buy something every 5 minutes. i personally think all those doctors involved with deedee need to be held responsible & nick should be in a mental institution not jail. the man really thought he had an angel & demon on his shoulder & was still a 500 year old vampire willing to do ANYTHING for someone he just met. sounds cray cray to me.
    *** he also said he only stabbed her twice…. She was stabbed 17 times

  • @garnetbelial
    @garnetbelial Před 3 měsíci +409

    My son is 26 years old with autism so the interview with Nick's mother really got me. Now I don't like getting into the whole functioning labels because ew, but there is the whole range of severity with autism. I can function in society and mask my autism, my son cannot and requires strict routines, calmness, and external help to emotionally regulate. Socially, he acts more like an eight year old. I had to teach him empathy through years of caring for progressively more difficult pets.
    That level of concern the mother has for Nick tells me that his diagnosis is valid, and I strongly believe he should be in a facility for mental health support rather than a prison.

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 Před 3 měsíci +49

      The dude is still violent and was fantasizing about violence prior to meeting gypsy. He was arrested for masturbating in public and got lucky that there was charges dropped for a concealed carry.
      Where was her concern when he was doing g these actions? Seems like he’s high functioning and capable of knowing right from wrong…and it seems like her infantilizing her son has hindered him from any real progress in life.

    • @tracyomalley9470
      @tracyomalley9470 Před 3 měsíci +13

      He should be released 💯 gypsy did instigate it due to not seeing any way out of the abuse SO why isn't she standing by this young man that she convinced to help her ??? He has the same mental issues FFS ..the authorities in charge need to step up and help this young man 💯😔😢

    • @SkyeSoleil
      @SkyeSoleil Před 3 měsíci +27

      Thank you! I’m autistic and I feel like something missing from this conversation is support needs. What might seem infantilizing to one autistic may be a support that another autistic needs. Each case should be treated individually

    • @KJ-sq4du
      @KJ-sq4du Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​@@basicallyno1722 yeah but that kind of behavior is exactly what we have mental health facilities for. I used to work with clients who mastrubated in inappropriate settings and clients with violent tendencies, if they have an IDD or mental disorder and have those behaviors they often will be put in a facility for at least some length of time. In this guy's case, with the murder, it would be a court-controlled amount of time.

    • @rachelk9343
      @rachelk9343 Před 3 měsíci

      This man was a literal rapist. I genuinely don't understand the pity party. To be damned with his diagnoses.

  • @pmbp6584
    @pmbp6584 Před 3 měsíci +174

    As a weird little side note, in the clip of her and Nick afterward in the hotel room, when she has a giddiness in her voice.. all I could think of was the scene in “Tangled” when Rapunzel leaves the tower with Eugene and is going back and forth between extreme ecstatic joy for little taste of freedom and intense guilt for disobeying. In many ways they were both kept from experiencing true childhood and adolescence and trying to play catch-up.

    • @blacksesamecandies
      @blacksesamecandies Před 3 měsíci +11

      I think of it less in terms of child-like glee and more like duping delight. They are *estastic* about fulfilling a murder they planned and are all out bragging about it. The fact Gypsy wrote those awful Facebook posts just says alot about her character. She didn't want to just flee because she was in a bad situation, she wanted revenge.She succeeded and she wanted *everyone* to know it. If she was really so innocent or didn't take pleasure in the murder, she wouldn't have made those posts or those videos or acted as she did when she was at Nick's house.
      Honestly I think she is a lowkey sociopath, undoubtedly scared by her abuse from her mom but I seriously don't think the two are that different.

    • @sugarplum2467
      @sugarplum2467 Před 3 měsíci

      Nah, she was euphoric that she murdered her mom. Even got sexually turned on by it, because she's a psychopath.

    • @starlingswallow
      @starlingswallow Před 3 měsíci +4

      Wow. Great point! I'm 43 and in trauma therapy to untangle my childhood trauma/neglect and an abusive marriage that realllly screwed up my head and identity. Even though what I went through was bad, for me, I still can't wrap my mind around what Gypsy went through and how _that_ kind of abuse can affect a person 😢

    • @Ilovetoxicyuri
      @Ilovetoxicyuri Před 3 měsíci +16

      @@blacksesamecandiesbeing a sociopath (or a better term would be someone with antisocial personality disorder) is VERY different from wanting revenge on your abuser but ok…

    • @pmbp6584
      @pmbp6584 Před 3 měsíci +7

      @@blacksesamecandieslet’s be clear.. I’m not saying killing someone should be swept under the rug. Full stop. However, Gypsy’s abuse began AT BIRTH and we do know that the abuse would not have stopped or gotten better had she not have gotten away from her mother in a full capacity. Her mother literally did the absolute most, including telling people she was physically and mentally younger than she was, that she was physically incapacitated, and had her declared mentally disabled and unable to consent to medical treatment for herself. Can you actually imagine that! I honestly don’t think anyone anyone can fully comprehend the ramifications of that amount of abuse unless they’ve lived it. She even had Gypsy gaslit into believing she was younger than she was, until she found out the truth. And not only that, her mother did actually physically chain her to a bed for some time and physically threaten her with a weapon. Psychology has shown time and time again that abuse and neglect during childhood creates literal chaos on a person’s wellbeing. AND… she was only 23 when she made the decision to end her mother’s life. Anyone with a normal childhood would still not have a fully formed decision making process (because the frontal lobe takes 25 years to finish developing) but Gypsy was wayyyy behind because of the forced infantilization and abuse she endured for years. Two things can be true, she can be both a victim and a killer. But her mother would absolutely still be alive if she had not abused Gypsy. That is 1000000% true. The circumstances of the one time she committed murder were completely dependent on her mother holding her hostage in her own body and abusing her.

  • @emmaberger3748
    @emmaberger3748 Před 3 měsíci

    Sad I missed this notification but happy to be here now !!! Need your take

  • @jennanoel4509
    @jennanoel4509 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Goodness, Swoop. I just love your videos. I will watch anything you put out b/c I just love your take on things and how petty you can be! Love you!

  • @brwnidangel83
    @brwnidangel83 Před 3 měsíci +209

    I survived 15 years of daily physical, emotional, and SA. I am so very proud to say that my daughter is now 15 and she is a strong, loving, and kind woman who will never put up with the things I did. She is an amazing person and we are breaking the generational A that has been going on for more than 4 generations.

  • @cambiata
    @cambiata Před 3 měsíci +283

    Surprisingly, your video on this has softened my view of Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Because one thing to think about when your mother has been isolating you your literal entire life is that you don't actually know how the world works at all. Look at the case of the Turpin teens: Daughter escapes the house and is able to call 911, but she doesn't know how to tell them what street she lives on. That is the potential of disconnect when your parent is the one giving the coercive control. I've sometimes seen posts on Reddit where an unknowing child asks if they really need to live with their dad until they're 23 and pay him their salary from work in order to "pay him back" for raising them. Parents have a lottttt of ability to make you think that normal options are simply not available to you. I do also know that by her own admission, her mother taught her to be a good liar, so I take it with a grain of salt, but still it is true if she had met someone who didn't have murder fantasies she would have been brought to the police instead of going straight to murder.

    • @rowanquynn9964
      @rowanquynn9964 Před 3 měsíci +25

      I thought I had to live with my parents until I was 25. My oldest sibling moved out at 27, the next one at 25, and thankfully a college counselor told me if I was unhappy at home (I very much was) I could move out whenever. I truly thought I was sinning if I moved out before my parents gave me permission. I moved out at 22, which gave my last sibling the courage to move out at 18 and I'll always be grateful for that. After I was out I started learning all the other things my parents had used to control me my entire life. It's crazy how much stuff you just believe as a kid

    • @graceful.wings.1
      @graceful.wings.1 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@rowanquynn9964how sad

    • @miss1of2
      @miss1of2 Před 3 měsíci +10

      There's also a point at which abuse can make you feel like there is no option other option and that often happens when you have tried to escape and failed. Which happened here.
      She was shackled to her bed for 2 weeks afterwards. Dee Dee manipulated the authorities after the BB gun incident. I can 100% believe that she thought her only option was for her mother to die.

    • @dardega
      @dardega Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@miss1of2On top of that, her mother was actively destroying her health and potentially slowly murdering her. I think that Gypsy Rose's life was actually in danger. So I'm quite baffled that she was sentenced to any prison time at all. I see this case as a complicated self defense and escaping captivity.

    • @miss1of2
      @miss1of2 Před měsícem

      @@dardega I don't think she would have been to prison if this story had happened where I'm from....

  • @nagemrellim2040
    @nagemrellim2040 Před 3 měsíci +2

    This doc is so well done. Thanks swoop 🖤

  • @kaetlinragan8429
    @kaetlinragan8429 Před 3 měsíci

    This is the first time I've seen your video, but I love your in-depth review and multiple victims' perspectives! I gave toh a follow, and I'm excited to hear more of your coverage on these stories!

  • @shilowyatt3859
    @shilowyatt3859 Před 3 měsíci +209

    I have my master's in child and adolescent developmental psychology, and I find this case so fascinating. I, like you, can see the situation from all sides and can sympathize and appreciate why Gypsy wanted to do this. That being said, since her release, the way she is viewing her role in the murder is quite frustrating, but also All of the trauma and abuse that she endured at such a young age, has probably altered her brain in a way that none of us know. She was being abused during the most important developmental stages of her life, so processing and understanding the repercussions of her actions could very have dissipated over time, meaning that her brain is shutting down the idea that it is partially, if not fully, her fault because her brain is trying to protect itself.

    • @abzdudy1
      @abzdudy1 Před 3 měsíci +21

      She also had weekly therapy and the therapy may have influenced how she speaks about the situation

    • @violeta3555
      @violeta3555 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Not to mention whatever her mother forced her to consume to stay “ill”. That much unneeded medications and tubes, with abuse is just unimaginable to an average person

    • @judeflynn9223
      @judeflynn9223 Před 2 měsíci +2

      LOL...WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON MY DEFENCE TEAM

  • @raygefdz4423
    @raygefdz4423 Před 3 měsíci +85

    I always catch myself saying "it's not drama, it's dangerous"

  • @kate_is_great
    @kate_is_great Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love the gentleness, kindness and generosity you handled this story with. So many people are tearing her apart online. She has suffered tremendous trauma. She did her time. I do feel a little sad for her husband....he has most likely had a background of trauma as well. Mommy issues + Mommy issues don't = healthy & happy. 😔

  • @breyannahatcher3121
    @breyannahatcher3121 Před měsícem

    I've been a really big fan of yours for over a year I recently was incarcerated for 120 days and was just released this is my first time hearing your voice since I've gotten out and I'm overwhelmingly Joy to be able to watch another one of your videos ❤

  • @_Nat_A_
    @_Nat_A_ Před 3 měsíci +283

    It was concerning that Gypsy started a documentary in prison and it appears she has an agency and PR tea prepping for her release. Gypsy has never lived without excessive attention, first brought on by her mother, and now from her own part of her mother’s murder. Gypsy has never been allowed herself to live a quiet life, without a man in it. I wish her all the best, but I don’t think she has surrounded herself with people who want the best for her, but the money she can generate for them.

    • @belindarocky961
      @belindarocky961 Před 3 měsíci +25

      This. The fact that before she even left jail, she was already married. It feels like she went from one codependent relationship (her mom) to another (her husband).

    • @kennel878Xx
      @kennel878Xx Před 3 měsíci +8

      ​@belindarocky961 true but at that point how do you even teach yourself to recognize that fact? It's possible the trauma has prevented her from being able to be independent it would seem. Plus who knows how all the treatments and medications have effected her psychologically/mentally. I do pray for her 🙏. I hope she can be at peace and enjoy the things she can in life.

    • @wisdomsleuth77777
      @wisdomsleuth77777 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Travellers cons are clever

    • @_Nat_A_
      @_Nat_A_ Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@kennel878Xx I agree with you. In a perfect world, the prison would provide long term therapy, life skills, education, psych evaluations and neuropsychological evaluations to prepare the guilty person to be a productive member of society once they are released, because putting someone in jail to serve their time and putting them back out into society without addressing and attempting to fix the problems will land them back in jail, and there will be more victims.

    • @pmbp6584
      @pmbp6584 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I agree.. but also, I try to imagine how lonely in general she must have felt her entire life. I’m sure some of the press is to try to mitigate that, but also to try to explain her feelings, which is pointless because I’m sure her feelings are confusing enough to her, and trying to get the public to understand them is only going to make her look bad. I can’t blame her for getting married etc.. again she’s always been so isolated I can’t imagine how alone she felt. Her whole adolescence was essentially everyone agreeing to the things her mom was doing to her. It must have felt like the world was against her. Maybe she’s trying to feel like the world is on her side now.

  • @parkerposey8155
    @parkerposey8155 Před 3 měsíci +123

    My 26 year old brother is autistic. He can lie, sure. But it is a conscious effort. His first instinct is to answer the question, not to cover up the truth. My brother is very well spoken. He's finally in a position to get his education away from family. He does have a paid companion/roommate who escorts him to classes and other situations just in case my brother has a disconnect. He is very precise, intelligent and has a beautiful, empathetic heart. It would be really easy to manipulate him due to the fact that he depends on those around him for cues. Luckily he has a very good support system and he's safe.

    • @linneys8246
      @linneys8246 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Best of everything to your brother and family.

    • @sugarplum2467
      @sugarplum2467 Před 3 měsíci

      I am very very close to someone who is autistic and he is known in our friend group as "being incapable of telling the truth". All he ever does is lie- mostly to manipulate people and for his own gain, mostly to make himself look good. He lies about shit that doesn't even have any NEED or REASON to be lied about. It's insane. And yes he was professionally diagnosed. So it varies. Autistic people are very much capable of lying as naturally as they are breathing- as we all know autism is a spectrum and no two people are the same.

    • @KnockedupNout
      @KnockedupNout Před 3 měsíci

      I love your understanding and the way you word this. I feel like I'm at the level your brother is, but no chance of getting help like that, he's very lucky🖤

  • @kimberlybega8271
    @kimberlybega8271 Před měsícem

    I really appreciate that you reached out to people more knowledgeable about DID and ASD and incorporated their perspectives! I've never encountered someone with DID professionally as far as I know. I do, however, have a friend with both DID and ASD and she has said a lot of folks with DID avoid disclosing that about themselves to mental health professionals for fear of being seen as crazy or being forced to integrate their alters. I have, however, worked with several autistic folks (mostly children). While yes, some of them would lash out physically at others or themselves when they were very escalated during meltdowns, in my mind there is a world of difference between hitting or kicking someone and murdering them. As the one poster said, the black and white thinking common in autism can also lead to a very strong sense of right and wrong. I also appreciate that you pointed out that an IQ of 82 is still the low range of normal and would not be diagnosed as an intellectual disability. Folks on the low end of normal IQ can still sometimes work and live independently; everyone's situation is different!
    Overall this was really well done! My husband and I watched The Act a few years ago so it's nice to hear more of the real story. I really didn't understand all the fangirling going on when Gypsy Rose was released from jail.
    Also if folks are wanting to learn more about Munchausen by Proxy, a good book to read is Sickened: Memoir of a Munchausen by Proxy Childhood by Julie Gregory. Ms Gregory's mom abused not only her but also foster children and elderly people she caregave for.

  • @shanncimakasky6836
    @shanncimakasky6836 Před 2 měsíci

    You make great documentaries. Thank you for taking time to do deep dives . 😊

  • @tsukig.p.7848
    @tsukig.p.7848 Před 3 měsíci +99

    As someone on the ASD spectrum, being honest to a fault is always painted with a "well, I'm glad you were honest, but now you're fucked" mentality. I would never lie, especially if I actually did whatever it was. It's like, you've already caught me, lieing would just make it worse. And then I'm a liar on top of whatever else I did.

    • @michelleelizabethknight5905
      @michelleelizabethknight5905 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I feel the same way about lying

    • @searranolan8039
      @searranolan8039 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Right and also, its rather easy to own up to mistakes, so what's the point in lying? Just don't do terrible things.

    • @chrisstine828
      @chrisstine828 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I have Asperger's and SAME

    • @maddiebrat945
      @maddiebrat945 Před 3 měsíci

      Being honest is great. However, my issue is a singular honest person being put in a stressful situation without representation. He should have had immediate legal council in my opinion. Nothing wrong with being honest but having a mediator could make a world of difference in the assistance available and the outcome of his honesty. It’s not always about what you say but how you say it.

  • @NursissisticOfficial
    @NursissisticOfficial Před 3 měsíci +148

    I'm AuDHD (Autistic with ADHD) and I fully agree with those that stated that we are more likely to be victims of abuse. I have dealt with a string of abusive relationships in my adult life, as well as growing up with an abusive parent in the home. I was late diagnosed because my difficulties were not supported, but disciplined to the point I learned to mask... albeit poorly. "Smart but lazy", that was the label I wore. Thank you for opening up the discussion to actual Autistic people the way that you did. That is so important when so many speak over us (looking at you autism speaks). I appreciate you and your commitment to remembering the humans behind the topics you discuss.

    • @AlyssHarte
      @AlyssHarte Před 3 měsíci +17

      Fellow ‘smart but lazy’ late diagnosis person with abusive parent, abusive relationships (romantic and non romantic), and masking here. Sending you love ❤

    • @NursissisticOfficial
      @NursissisticOfficial Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@AlyssHarte Right back at ya! Happy over commercialized love day, friend. I hope it brings you joy and peace. 🤟

    • @jojoblowjo
      @jojoblowjo Před 3 měsíci +4

      Ditto! AuDHDer here, grateful for Swoops research

    • @skechyassmofo
      @skechyassmofo Před 3 měsíci +4

      Lol smart, high IQ, but lazy...
      Hate how often I heard that for almost 40 years because.
      Well let's just say I was that unique enough, I was brought into the hospital for junior drs to "train" on, see if they could work out any of my mental & physical disabilities.
      Yay
      And that was decades before me and my family were told I was on the spectrum a few years ago

    • @NursissisticOfficial
      @NursissisticOfficial Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@skechyassmofo Look at Swoop bringing the community together. My people!
      I'm so sorry you had to play the role of test subject. That's super poopy.

  • @Bryan-lj9jn
    @Bryan-lj9jn Před 22 dny

    Ive come accross several of your documentaries now. You do an awesome job! Great content!

  • @roxannemoser
    @roxannemoser Před 19 dny +9

    I don't believe Nick understood his right to remain silent and right to an attorney. I believe he deserves a new trial and the whole confession thrown out.
    Also, the plan was:
    A: meet Mom
    B: kill Mom
    C: get pregnant
    Remember, Gypsy texted Nick and said Plan B.

  • @marmaladeandtea1
    @marmaladeandtea1 Před 3 měsíci +105

    I lived in similar circumstances until I was 12 and went into foster care. Spending your formative years living like that, the isolation, despair, feeling of being abandoned by society as a whole, the lack of hope that you'll ever be able to escape and live a normal life, complete fucks you up. Unless you have lived it, you will have no idea and will never understand. I've been in therapy for 15 years and still living with the consequences. She needs to be left alone and learn how to be a person.

    • @krissunsixx
      @krissunsixx Před 3 měsíci +5

      👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 THIS!! I’ve been there in my own version and it’s definitely played its part in my way of life. Exactly like you said, if they haven’t been there, they will never understand.

    • @twokindsofovenfries32
      @twokindsofovenfries32 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Yep. My childhood abuse was not nearly as bad as Gypsy Rose, or yours, and it affected me so deeply I have a literal personality disorder. Takes years of therapy to get into remission. Going from abusive household to prison straight into marriage and celebrity is a really scary concept.

    • @sxyniece
      @sxyniece Před 3 měsíci +5

      She needs therapy and to take responsibility for what she has done

    • @LacquerLockdown
      @LacquerLockdown Před 3 měsíci +5

      I agree with much of what you’ve said here however her abuse does not invalidate the crimes she committed. One point that I hoped was going to be made is that GR was raised to lie & act by her mother rom the time she got ill. As such lying, manipulation to get your way, etc would come easy. I’d be shocked if she didn’t have several Cluster C personality disorder traits.
      However the truth is GR is the one thrusting herself into the eyes of the public & unfortunately no matter how you look at it monetizing her trauma & crime. I think instead of trying to become a social media influencer hawking her book & movie as you sad she should be in therapy & seeking critical CBT treatment & therapy to help guide her as she steps back into the world. I also feel a marriage strait out of prison was not a great decision but also makes me wonder if her other relatives have abandoned her or at a minimum are wary of inviting her into their homes. As a clinician I find this entire story & new disclosures by GR herself distressing on a number of levels. I also will add I wish you continued success in healing from & surviving your own traumas!

    • @Monkey114
      @Monkey114 Před 3 měsíci

      💯 until you go through it, you just don't know.

  • @trepidjam
    @trepidjam Před 3 měsíci +45

    autistic viewer here: I love the way you crowdsourced/asked for autistic people's preferences in language 😭💕 it makes me so happy to know that we're heard

  • @Drippinginblue
    @Drippinginblue Před 3 měsíci

    You have an incredible talent
    Thank you for bringing awareness

  • @charissa6648
    @charissa6648 Před měsícem

    Its not like it means anything from a stranger on the internet, but you have nothing but my respect for this video.
    Thank you for your integrity and for presenting the truth, as it is

  • @victoriarailsback3311
    @victoriarailsback3311 Před 3 měsíci +139

    Munchausen by Proxy is also called medical abuse and is considered by many professionals not to be a mental illness, but a form of abuse. There is a really interesting podcast called Nobody Should Believe Me which discusses the topic and looks at several different cases related to it, including covering Take Care of Maya - it’s a really informative podcast on this subject for anyone who is interested!

    • @kristenkalinowski2551
      @kristenkalinowski2551 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thank you for this. I’ll check out the podcast!

    • @Kaiser_MHA
      @Kaiser_MHA Před 3 měsíci

      It is often said that Munchausen by proxy is the only ‘mental health condition’ that GUARANTEES abusive behaviour. You can’t have it & NOT be abusive.

    • @kinkykitty77
      @kinkykitty77 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@kristenkalinowski2551 Take Care of Maya us heartbreaking. I just wanna give you a heads up.

  • @SaerBear5
    @SaerBear5 Před 3 měsíci +310

    I hope it isn’t inappropriate to mention this on such a serious video, but that shade of lipstick looks so perfect on you, I gasped when I saw it!

    • @Mildly-Mercurial
      @Mildly-Mercurial Před 3 měsíci +18

      Also unsure if it's appropriate, but I feel the same, that colour is stunning. 😊

    • @staceyann1180
      @staceyann1180 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Absolutely gorgeous shade! Particularly on Swoop!

    • @biogirl1381
      @biogirl1381 Před 3 měsíci +2

      loveeee that lip shade looks gorgeous on swoop!!! 😍😍😍

    • @cherry_blossom12345
      @cherry_blossom12345 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Swoop is extremely beautiful!!

    • @kaylaaa363
      @kaylaaa363 Před 3 měsíci +4

      commenting here just in case someone knows the answer 😅

  • @savannahk750
    @savannahk750 Před 3 měsíci +2

    What a great documentary. So thorough

  • @morgana001
    @morgana001 Před 2 měsíci

    I absolutly love that you never loose this focus in you Docs to help us to see manipulative tactics. Thank you for this.

  • @sheenaldeo
    @sheenaldeo Před 3 měsíci +172

    I’m baffled at what she said in prison about Nick. Basically blaming him for her being in jail and saying he’s not a real man. Like she planned it and she’s the reason he’s in jail and her mom’s dead.

    • @Andromyway
      @Andromyway Před 3 měsíci +47

      That's only if you interpret her words through the cruelest possible lens. I took it as her saying if she had met a fully grown man with a healthy stable head on his shoulders he would have said "no murder is not the answer lets get you out of this differently" and thats not an incorrect thing to say.

    • @jogrant3851
      @jogrant3851 Před 3 měsíci +15

      I think she's been taken under a few wings in jail and she's being taught (coached) about what took place. She's smart enough to see where that is going.

    • @azuxiv
      @azuxiv Před 3 měsíci +40

      ​@@Andromyway yes, not wrong. but denying accountability all the same and fully throwing the other person under the bus. it just... speaks her character.
      it's odd to listen her saying "i don't identify with murder" when her involvement is quite big, from planning, procuring tools, and guiding.
      murder is a permanent stain. and people who get second chance, for all means go, move on with your live, but never denies the past. that's just lying to yourself.

    • @redshed2020
      @redshed2020 Před 3 měsíci +27

      She is not the reason he's in jail. He's in jail because HE murdered someone, he chose to do so. They both committed a crime. He's not a victim.

    • @monikajohnson8236
      @monikajohnson8236 Před 3 měsíci +14

      @@redshed2020Nick is the ONLY victim.

  • @jstwtchm3
    @jstwtchm3 Před 3 měsíci +158

    When you think about it, those 8 years in prison was more freedom than Gypsy has ever had her entire life. That why she seems so unbothered by all of this.

    • @Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate
      @Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate Před 3 měsíci

      Any excuse is better than none.

    • @caseyc2497
      @caseyc2497 Před 3 měsíci +13

      she's literally said in the past that she had more freedom in prison than she ever did wiht her mother.

    • @jstwtchm3
      @jstwtchm3 Před 3 měsíci +9

      @@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate definitely not making any excuses for her. If anything, the guy should have gotten less time than she did. In all actuality, she took advantage of someone who actually had less reliable decisions making skills than she did.

  • @JingleJess2490
    @JingleJess2490 Před 11 dny

    This is my first time watching you, and I started following! How can people reach out with possible stories?