This 14 year old MacBook has some features M1 could only DREAM of.
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- I finally got one! Today I'm upgrading the 2010 17 inch MacBook Pro and seeing what it's like to use in 2024.
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I remember my science teacher in 9th grade had one of these machines. Absolute beast for sure. And he’d show it off any chance he had. Rightfully so lol
Once the 15 inch Retina Mac books dropped my Science Teacher did the same.. iconic 2012
imagine how the public would react if apple were to release a new 17 MacBook in 2024. That may cause a huge ripple effect on their current lineup.
That’s probably true. I can’t get enough of the screen size. Would definitely buy one
@@montaguebarnabasltd That would be sick! And like you said, its like a portable desktop.
With the old 15" having been upsized now to 16" I doubt a release of a 17" would change much.
@@meislit921718" with no bevel 🤔
The 16" MacBook is actually 16.2", so what we have now is pretty close. I don't see them upping it to 17" anytime soon. Unless they can shrink down the bezels even more while keeping the same form factor. The 16" is a beast to carry around in a backpack already lol.
Had one back in the days, 2011" 17", maxed out with antiglare screen. What a machine, i loved it to death. Only shame was kinda poor heat management and GPU failures because of that. Had it serviced twice. Mine had 16gb of RAM and 2 ssd's, in 2013.
For its time the spec was truly impressive. True about the heat though.
Still have mine, but obviously no longer supported.
i still have my 15" late 2011, the only problem it has is broken keyboard and dented sides (yeah since it has a broken keyboard i have to short 2 pads to turn it on lol) but other than that it still works pretty good and it has an incredibly good windows 7 support, much more stable and fast than my other pc's
Weirdly it's mostly the cpu that gets hot on both of mine, with the 2.5 surprisingly being better than the 2.2. They get near 100 °C under load, while the gpu only gets to 70-75.
it feels so nostalgic when you have a device that you don’t have to worry about getting replacement and upgrades here and there. like a nokia phone 2100 era. 😢
I personally prefer anti reflective to anti glare as it provides better clarity in most lighting situations. Instead of having a fuzz, you just have a tiny light spot in the display that does not interfere with surrounding color accuracy. Sure you might be able to see the glare, but modern coatings are so good that glare is a minimal issue.
Just my thoughts.
I really do miss the battery indicator without needing to open the laptop.
I think you have a fair point. I suppose it is down to preference mostly, too. I think the glossy screens looked better aesthetically on the unibody line anyway!
Thanks for watching!
Rocked this bad boy for about 10 years until it died. The best of the best
I have a 2011 13 inch that I upgraded with a 1tb ssd and 16g of ram. Works like a champ! And now that cds and dvd are coming back since a lot are cutting streaming.
This set up with a library card…..I’m streaming services worst nightmare 😂
Sounds like a keeper as long as it is. And you could use it as a boat anchor still.
I took an old 9,2 MacBook Pro put in an ssd and oclp patcher to run Monterey 12.3 and its a like new even with 4 GB memory! Just ordered 16 GB of
Ram to
Soup
It up a
Bit ☝️The ram is now in ! Ordered a new battery to complete the renovation 👍
Yipppeee!!
I still have a late 2012 13" MacBook pro and love everything about it. Yes is not fast/strong/modern but works well for what I use it for.
Great video and so thru. I upgraded mine with OLCP to MacOS Big Sur. One step further than Catalina. I noticed so issues with DosDude’s Catalina Patcher. It is such a great machine an I use it still Daily, next to my M1 Mac’s. The screen is fabulous.
Is yours a 2010 as well? I suppose graphics switching doesn't work in Big Sur? It suddenly started to work fine again when I put Sonoma on my 2011. Not sure if Ventura works, as it's the only one I haven't tried
I have a MBP17 2009. Never tried Sonoma in this machine. I run Sonoma on 2012 Mac Mini s. Works great also. Graphic switching works on the 2009 with Big Sur.
@@frankgeldhof Graphics switching works quite differently on a 2009 though, so I’m not too surprised that it works. The 2011 and I think the 2010 have automatic graphics switching. You don’t have to log off and back in to switch either.
Bought a 2009 for my son a year or so back - still good for Office / CZcams. I had a 2011 which of course died. I've a graveyard of dead 2011 15"s too. Finally, got a 2010 like yours, which is great. One of the speakers blown, but other than that, it's lovely.
Updated my 2011 15 inch to sonoma, works fine once you let it warm up for easy tasks such as using ms office and browsing the web. I barely use it now tho
Excellent content
Much appreciated, thanks.
I had the last of the 17 inch models. I loved that thing but the GPU had known problems. Had to cook the motherboard in the oven more than once but it kept working for years. Cracking bit of kit.
Great video. I installed Sonoma on a 2011 Macbook Pro recently using OpenCore Legacy Patcher and can confirm that the performance is perfectly liveable within realistic expectations, as well as that it not only works but each and every piece of hardware are fully functional without any glitches.
Thanks! And that’s insightful. Thank you.
So far the only think that don't is maps, I'm thinking to a eGPU for my model
Really? Sonoma is glitchy as hell on my 2011
@@SterkeYerke5555 what fails on yours? I can check if it's ok or not on mine
@@RolandTreiberDesign Transparancies on windows glitch out when I'm dragging another window on top of them. E.g. when opening Safari on the default home page and then dragging "about this mac" on top of it, the Safari window will glitch out. Purely cosmetic, but distracting nonetheless. It doesn't really matter if I use the HD3000 or the 6750M. Beta window blur in OCLP helps, but doesn't completely solve it. It does seem to fare a lot better in light mode though.
Also, when I'm using the 6750M and I'm clicking on something in the menu bar for the first time, it'll become red for a split second. The same occurs with the HD3000, but it's black, so it's nowhere near as distracting.
We loved our 17" MBP. They were the first Desktop Replacement laptop for Graphics Professionals. The 2011 models with i7 and an SSD upgrade were awesome...EXCEPT for their flawed dual graphics design and the guaranteed failure. We had all of our Motherboards replaced under warranty extension...and were warned, the problem will return as the replacements were not re engineered...just new not yet failed pieces. And they did. We got 2-3 more years of use before they crapped out. Though, one of my users still has one. Uses it as her personal machine at home. She knows its days are numbered. None of the Mac laptops my company has had since...have been loved, like the 2011 MBP. EVERYONE hates Dongle Hell. Sure, new machines are lighter and faster. But when you weigh everything you need to carry, they are not that much lighter. I still use a 2012 MPB 15". No retina (prone to defect) and all the necessary ports on the side (no dongles). Gets the job done!
Great video! I love the 17" MBP (and PowerBook G4). Still sad Apple didn't update it in 2012 with the rest of the Unibody lineup and left it on a bad note. I've got a 2008 pre-Unibody and a 2011, basically the most infamous models but they still work perfectly! Both with the anti-glare screen options and they look amazing! I'm currently using the 2008 as my main computer. The 2011 I don't use as I'm afraid of the GPU dying and I def agree with you that just the Intel HD 3000 won't cut it for such a high end machine. The 2010 you have is probably the best model you can get as it's the fastest one that doesn't suffer from GPU failures
Just for the future, its usually best to spread thermal pasts when applying to an exposed die. It's more important you get full coverage than when normally applying to a cpu, as you don't have a heat spreader.
You'll probably be okay in this case since you put so much on, but that in itself can be problematic if the paste is conductive.
Great video though!
Thanks! Yeah not my proudest application. I’ll keep that in mind for future👍
I stopped using paste and switched over to using PTM7950.
paste is not conductive, too much acts as insulation however, so less is more
I still use the same model with El Capitan OSX not very fast. But works very good with final cut pro. It’s my work horse,.. strong Macbook Pro ! 👍
I alwways thought the design peaked on the 17" PowerBook G4 aluminum version/first MacBook Pro. The keyboard looked and felt great in my memory. Wish I could get one of those today.
Yeah those keyboards I believe to be Apple’s best on all laptops.
I still use a 2012 MacBook Pro 13 inch but I removed the disk drive and put a solid state drive in addition to its 500gb disc drive. Still going strong today. I mean obviously it’s nothing compared to modern Mac’s but it does the job.
the thunderbolt ports you find on newer devices are basically the new version of that express slot as they are 4 lanes of pcie. although having occulink would be cool too
I still use a 2010 mbp 15 inch model with upgraded ram and ssd and it's ok.😍
Still better speakers than most modern day laptops except later Apple models.
i daily a 2010 15inch that i bought for $35. upgraded it with a new battery, ssd, 2011 wireless card and 2011anti-glare display. and thanks to open core running bigsur
Hell yeah
If a 2011 card works, you can probably get a 2012 card in there as well for Bluetooth 4.0 support (including Handoff). Works fine on my 2011
I use my 2009 17" for daily light tasks it dual boots with Windows 10 which is partly the reason I got it the second reason being the optical drive for ripping and burning CDs. I have very rarely seen a 17" with the UK keyboard layout even when I bought this macbook from the UK it came with the US layout keyboard. I think if Apple was going to do this size in the M series the screen would be 18" based on how the screen sizes of their M series models went up an inch with the bezelless design. I often think how revolutionary these 17" Unibody MacBooks must have been back then because it's much thinner than the laptops of 2008-2011 and it's screen resolution still stands up to today's standards especially with Windows 10/11 laptops.
That’s an odd thing now I think about it. They do seem to have a disproportionate amount of US layouts here in that size.
Yep, the display must have been ahead of the curve for a good few years. I think you’re right about the newer bezeless displays. 18in would be crazy.
Thank you, for this excellent post. This model along with its 15-inch version as far as, I am concerned were the last Apple laptops worth buying. They had everything, I wanted in an Apple laptop as you stated: one Fire-wire 800 port, three USB "A" ports, audio-in, audio-out, expansion card slot, and DVD super-drive. Plus they also could be controlled with Apple's white remote control and when open the Apple logo on the top "lights" up. Today, Apple's M-1/M-2/and M-3 laptops are, just so boring (smile...smile).
Thank you for a glowing comment!
Despite the speed of the M1 and newer chips, these certainly have more character and repairability…
@@montaguebarnabasltd Thank you, for replying to my post. Yes, I agree they have character, can be upgraded and are also, just a lot more "fun". Everything works so well when using iLife, iWorks, and other software titles. In my collection from the 2000's, I own a 12-inch G4 Powerbook and a 15-inch Intel MacBook Pro (smile...smile).
I primary the i7 variant of the 2010 MBP 17 w/Matte screen
The # is where the £ is on UK layout - the 3 key. I know this intimately as being a programmer you use the # a lot in C/C++/C#/Python and to get it on a UK Apple layout keyboard you have to press the second alt key and the 3/£ key
In the UK layout the # is not even labelled.
You’re absolutely right yeah. Didn’t think about that!
Future video title : This 14 years newer m1/m2/m3 macbook has some features intel mac could only dream of 😂
Ingenious
i have a macbook pro 17" late 2011 im perfect condition like new and matte display :), I upgraded it with 500GB ssd and 16GB RAM.
After so many years i don't have the graphics issue, im using it with macOs high sierra, just in case...
Very very nice video, I wish there was more 17 inch content being uploaded almost as much as I wish the 17 inchers made it to the 2012 models and even Retinas.
I am actually on the hunt for a 2010 model myself, but before I spend the money there's something I need to find out: How's the performance using Parsec to stream the screen from another (modern) mac or even a gaming PC to play games on it?
There's a video idea for you, and I'll subscribe just in case you decide to make it happen. I hope you can read this, I am really interested in that. Cheers mate.
Yeah the 2012 is the only 15" unibody model that's truly reliable, as well as being the only one with Metal support. If only Apple made a 17" version of that one...
I had the second to the last “17 model. Early 2011. Mid or late 2011 was the last. The screen was great. Had a faulty GPU that overheated though.
I got a 2011 maxed out 17” from the recycle pile at work. Quad core i7 can run Ventura fine and just fine not great. Had to disable the gpu but it works great
Cor you lucky thing
3:34 Luke Miani did a review of 17” macbookpro, doesn't understand why they have PCIMCA \ Express card 34 slot. That slot allow the user to connect Tempo SATA pro 6GB, PCI -E 16x riser for laptops externalgpu,, connect usb 3.0 and more. He stated he wanted a SD slot instead
OCLP... I have a 2012 13,2 iMac running Sonoma. I have a few graphics issues but other than that it's fine. Might be worth a go.
I talked about why I didn’t give it a go in the video.
Thanks though
watching this video i thought you had at least 10k subs, surprised that you only have 4.58k... let me add another one :)
Oh that’s so sweet man thank you! Appreciate it
I've been using a 2011 17" as my primary laptop since 2015. Had the gpu replaced under Apple's support program on my first one (a 2.2 GHz), used that until 2022 when I decided it was time to get a 2.5 GHz. Obviously its gpu died as soon as I put it to some real use, so I had its gpu replaced as well, but I'm still not stopping to use them! I'm currently still running High Sierra, but with software support becoming worse I'll probably upgrade to Sonoma this summer. The 2.2 has already been running Sonoma for a few months. It's not bad, though due to the lack of Metal support the UI gets a bit glitchy. Graphics switching surprisingly works fine on Sonoma though.
Fair enough! You like what you like. I would have let it go after the second GPU failure lol
@@montaguebarnabasltd Tbf, I can't fault the original 6770M for failing after over ten years. And I didn't get the 2.5 just to throw it away after two weeks or so! The rest of it is still near mint and I really enjoyed the 2.2, so I decided it was worth fixing.
Can we bring back these anti glare screens on the new machines. I have a matte anti glare screen protector on my 14 inch M1 Pro and it makes the world of a difference
75$ for a 14 years old laptop screen is absolutely bonkers
It’s gone up because of scarcity tbh. It’s still a great display anyway
From what you said in parts here, it seems you might enjoy the book Essentialism by Greg McKeown to work out how you want to focus on certain things. It'll give you a great mental framework that goes beyond just planning things.
That’s a really interesting recommendation. Thank you, I will check it out.
I have one. I didn’t know about the patch. I may try that. Mine was never used. Cycle count is 7.
Mint condition ones are going for a few hundred bucks at the moment if you want to sell. Otherwise I’d recommend trying the patch!
Any Macbook Pro will be quite good for upgrade on OCLP Big Sur since it is better for the aluminum type models mac..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
monterey is a better choice
opencore legacy patcher is a great option, as long as the harddrive is not a mechanical one
Tbf, regular laptop hard drives were terribly slow on Mac OS even in the Yosemite days
this would be dope in a 2024 version
Well, I have a top of the line MacBook from 2013 xD and yesterday I was editing 4K video and music in Logic and it's a champ. The battery lasts 2 hours :P But 99% of the time I use it as if it's a Mac mini, connected to the (2013?) Thunderbolt Display, at 2k. And they go for like 300 used.
I really miss the display upgrade option
I used to love the 17" Pros - even though the graphics never lived very long. I still use a remote w a USB sensor.
Doss Dude did a mod to one of these 17" to upgrade it to a 2012 so it has airdrop and other features of the 2012
I have a 2011 17” which I bought as untested sold as seen, and the GPU still works perfectly! I have put that aside for now to disable the GPU to preserve it. The 2010 and 2011 MacBooks have quad core i5, i7 cpus.
@dosdude1 upgraded a MBP17” 2011 to mid-2012 CPU, so it has Intel HD4000 GPU (nearly as good as the 2011 ATI discrete GPU)
I have a 2009 17” (I replaced that tantalum capacitor on the motherboard and it worked again), with 8gb RAM, 2TB SSD, and 2TB HDD 😃The 2009 with matte screen is the best of the Unibody 17” in terms of reliability (except for dosdude’s one of course, which also has a PCIE connector hidden in the optical bay for eGPU)
Why disable a perfectly functional gpu? You might as well enjoy it while it lasts ;).
I've seen Dosdude's 2012 17" as well and while I think it's a cool idea, it currently still comes across as extremely hacky. While he claims the HD4000 is faster than the original AMD graphics were, I'm pretty sure it's just been a long time since he saw a working AMD gpu ;). In my experience it's closer in performance to the later 650M than to the HD4000, though sadly it lacks the Metal support of either of them
The 2010 17-inch GPU power supply never dies as it is completely different to a 2010 15-inch one (with that flawed capacitor). So in essence the 2010 17-inch is the only one that is bullet proof. There are some other issues on those machines, like a failing gMUX chip (can be reflowed) and a failing RAM slot (which cannot be repaired, but you can max out just one slot)
Wow, cool! Thanks for letting me know. Some good insight there
Just curious, so narrowing it down to just this one, the mid-2010, and then the early 2011 and late 2011 models, if there was not major graphics problem on the late 2011, is there anything else preventing you from liking the 2011s more? Just ports? Many thanks,
The graphics problems are enough! The 2011s are better in every way, but crippled by their GPUs.
@@montaguebarnabasltd I heard that the 17" ones are less likely to fail because of better cooling. But I also used dosdude1's hardware tool to "fix" a 15" one by permanently disabling the AMD Radeons. I wonder how the "overall speed" of a 4-core 2011 17" with AMD disabled is faster than the mid-2010 2-core with working GPU? By the way, the dosdude1 hardware fix does not involve any wires - and its permanent!
@@shiningprince I wondered about that too. No point getting the 2011 when they’re so much more expensive in my opinion.
@@montaguebarnabasltd Good point
It’s weird how we defend what we love isn’t it. Like my M1 MacBook Air, to me it’s perfect even lack of i/o and being a base model.
But if I’m being honest i like how the M2 and beyond have MagSafe and FaceID. I can easily live without both just fine. But, i tend to leave it plugged in 24/7 because I don’t want any port-fatigue. I keep my laptops til they are absolutely unusable. Like this MacBook replaced a 12 year old Dell Latitude E6420.. which had the worst display and speakers on any computer I’ve had.
Cool video! I don’t think I’m ever buying another system with a fan though.. the lower powered SoC based machines check all my boxes… which for the most part is web browsing and light writing.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah I try to give a mixture of objective facts and… just my opinion in my videos. It’s objectively good to use your computers till they’re unusable :,)
I put Linux Mint on mine and goes really well.
That MacBook age had the best keyboard Apple has ever made.
Almost agree with you there
I just bought this same laptop for $80 . Upgraded ram for $30 and switched to a SSD. I have it running Ventura and it’s a beaut
Bargain!
I had a M1 and it was ok but it didn’t had enough ports for me so I sold it and bought a very cheap MacBook Pro 2015 and i upgraded the SSD to one TB and it has been great and it’s still fast and plenty of ports.
You should get an M1 Pro or the M2 or M3 variants then.
I love that Ahoy video
YES YES YES
I didn’t expect anyone to know it from sight…
I was also going to comment on this but you beat me too it!!
In Earnest, a very Honest review, especially, the Laptop is ‘far from modern and 2 Cores will Never lead to a great experience on this side of 2024, However, brilliant typing experience and screen size…
Thank you! Much appreciated.
I'm watching this on 2010 i7 imac. Thankfully Ubuntu serves my needs, so I don't need to deal with lost mac OS support. Too bad the 27-inch models got discontinued.
That’ll be going for some time!
I could honestly do without the 95 watts TDP. That's one of the costs with older Core models. They were sometimes running warmer and using more power. Still, $99 for a 27-inch system..
I'd love a 20in M4-Ultra MBP if money were no object.
There’s a lot of things I’d like if money were no object :,)
I have the 2008 version. The gpu needs reballing.
You could add the m1 MacBook air’s inside into the older macbook for better preformance, I’ve seen these kind of transformations on CZcams before
I would absolutely love to do that, but normally the parts have to be from the same generation (retina, touchbar, ETC.) in order to fit.
Can you please link me to a video of this conversion? Really interested in that.
U know u can put eGPU to it directly by PC Card,if u could to it it’s will be super useful,because not many speak about/testing this upgrade on CZcams
True! Unfortunately I don’t own one or have space for one right now. Sorry
@@montaguebarnabasltd
Sry for what?!, ur videos are excellent for who’s want to buy or know about theses old macs,so thx u for ur work
That express card slow needs to be put to use
Truth. Gonna get a USB 3 card I think
@@montaguebarnabasltd cool, I assume you have ordered new feet for the bottom ?
As for the bottom itself… know anyone with a sand blaster?
@@danielktdoranie I’m actually gonna replace the whole bottom I think. It would be a huge hassle to refurbish since I don’t know anyone with a sand blaster!
Did you just add an anti-glare layer to the original screen? Coz I swear that the official anti-glare display from Apple was also a higher resolution than the regular display
On the 15 inch models that was the case. Not with the 17s. I’d imagine it’s partly because the scaling wouldn’t work, and partly because any higher resolution would have been really hard to run in 2009 when the unibody models came out.
That GPU was a nice addition _in principle_ ; the problem was that they regularly went on the blink.
GPUs were fine on the 2010s. You just need to replace a cap that's used to supply power to the gpu on the 15", but it's easy enough to replace it with one that's better than the original. The 2010 is probably the most reliable 17" unibody MacBook. The 2011 is where things get sketchy though. As far as I can tell they're suffering from bumpgate, just like early Xbox 360s and ps3s did
@@SterkeYerke5555 "Just replace a cap". You do realize that the word "just" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting here, don't you?
@@bomcabedal Meh, not really. It's quite a large cap by laptop standards, which makes things easier, and there are lots of places where you could have it done if you can't solder yourself. It's nowhere near as involved as replacing a gpu. Perhaps my expectations have skewed after owning 2011s for nine years though :/
I have the 15 inch 2015 MacBook Pro but I’m confused why this looks more modern.
Awesome video! :3
Much appreciated!!
Ports !
But Catalina does not support Superdrive... I suspect it does not support firewire either - Does the express port work with it?
I’m pretty sure the all those things are supported fine..?
@@montaguebarnabasltd I just tested it using an openCORE boot SSD and superdrive and firewire are indeed not supported. Also Sierra was the highest version of MacOS supported on the 2010 model. For High Sierra you must have a 2012 or newer Mac.
@@PanDownTiltLeft ok nice. CD drive fine?
Also nah, the 2010s support High Sierra natively. support.apple.com/en-gb/111934
@@montaguebarnabasltd No idea about CD drive - just superdrive. Good eye on the OS - I was looking at a feature requirement and that required a 2012 or later.
2020 macbook spotted!
its nice...however it can't even render modern videos bc of the lack of codecs in the CPU.
Yes. I’m fairly sure my video covers what this machine can and can’t do. An apple silicon beating CPU, this machine does not have.
I have a mid 2010 MBP 17" with max (8GB) RAM and a SSD. I am running OCLP+Monterey in it which runs quite nicely. Earlier I ran Catalina but I prefer the Monterey. I also have another one coming in with same specs and I probably will try Linux on it. Great machines at 100€ each or less. I've paid about 160-170 euros total for 2 in good/great condition during last year or so. Looking at these in ebay I see they are generally grossly overpriced. Better deals are possible to find by browsing local classifieds and being patient about it.
I've seen a 17" 2010 running 16GB of ram on the Dutch version of eBay a while back. Might be worth a try. Sadly I don't have a 2010 myself.
@@SterkeYerke5555 You can install it but it being stable is a different matter. Many have tried and most cases I've heard they end up with random crashes, in best case scenario. Some have so much problems they give up right away. And different brands or specs on RAM sticks might give different results. General consensus is that the max is actually 8GB in this case - sadly. Trust me I would love to have 16GB myself - like I have in all my other MBPs. But, one can always try and see how his own machine reacts to 16GB. You never know...
@@Polydeukes68 I've had similar luck (or lack thereof) installing faster ram than specified in some macbooks, eg 1333 MHz in a 2009 Macbook Pro. I'll make sure to try it out if I ever get a 2010 though. Mushkin and OWC seem to sell ram kits that could work. I guess they're meant for the 13" 2010. 12GB might be a decent middle ground as well, even though you'll lose dual channel
@@SterkeYerke5555 Last night I took a 8GB 1333 MHz Corsair "Mac memory" out of my 2011 MBP and installed it to my 2010 alone so only 8GB installed.. Boots half way and then stops. No errors or anything but does not boot all the way. Didn't try with 2. And didn't investigate further due hurry. I do not have any 8GB 1067 MHz sticks to try.
@@Polydeukes68 You could try with that 8GB stick and one 4GB 1067MHz stick of ram though? It'll stick to the slowest stick of ram you've got
i still use a 2012 MBP 15" though the fan is fuckin' annoying compared. to my silent 2020 M1
Did you try to install a newer version of macOS onto it?
Catalina was the latest I went with in the end
@@montaguebarnabasltd You can also install also Big Sur or newer
@@daviddaniel1001 yeah. I talked about that in the video.
@@montaguebarnabasltd Does Siri work on Catalina on this MacBook?
if i could fing this beast at least with 3rd or 4th gen intel CPU ( which is apple didnt make ) i will gladly bring this beasr everywhere i go easily
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Of course! I just don’t find them useful at all, really.
The SUV/ pickup truck of apple laptops.
So bad they didn’t at least didn’t release a 2012 one with GT650 and sandy i7
Even today it would remain somehow usable
Honestly it might have been for the best that they focused on getting the 15” stable lol. Anyway, you could be right, we’ll never know ;)
I have successfully built a 2012 17” with the GT650M. And it’s a speedy beast. Video is on my channel.
17 inch 2012 could be a best possible macbook which never existed.
2010 / 2011 Macbooks are well known to overheat that lead to broken graphics card
Idk if you saw but I did mention that…
Apple needs to bring actual ports back
They have though: HDMI, magsafe, and SD. USB-A is a problem of manufacturers not wanting to spend cents more in a better connector despite nearly everything using USB-C now.
MacBooks have ports
I don’t know why they didn’t put a number pad in a 17” laptop… I guess it wouldn’t have been symmetrical enough for Steve jobs, but still.
I did think about that. Would have impaired the speakers slightly I’d say.
My mid 2010 13" was way more upgradable.
Apple sales are down, why not make something like this again?
Normal USB..
If you're unhappy with speed you could try putting Linux on it.
Fair point! I’ll think about it.
Lol
my Pc’s Cooling fan has more RAM than apple junk 😂
Haha nice one mate I loled!! 😝
I was really surprised with disappointment when Apple removed the light up keyboard because it was one of my favourite things about it
They still have light up keyboards, though. Just no buttons for adjustment
@@montaguebarnabasltd that stinks
M116 is just perfect and it's still supported, so why spend time on this...
Spenny init
Love these. The style, all the ports, everything you could want. Back when apple made computers for pros and not art students with too much money
Why does this 2010 MacBook have smaller bezels than my 2012 MacBook Pro???🥴🥴
"This 14 year old MacBook has some features M1 could only DREAM of" hahah let me guss, you dont have a 16 inch M1... I dont have too. but at least, I dont try to convince myself with bulshit.
Haha yes mate! Nice one mate.
@@montaguebarnabasltd It's very easy to think that Fiat is a great car as long you don't have an AMG... Ports, ports is the only thing that are better at this 1 million years ago MacBook.
That's need to be the title of the video.
@@SKTK612 brother why are you liking your own comments 😭
Yeah I see your point but unfortunately that’s not how CZcams works. There’s a reason you clicked on this video.
Some people like the older MacBooks because they hold a certain charm over newer ones, and have some interesting features they don’t. Simple as that!
WTF dude this is still a powerful cpu and you say sluggish well obviously with all that BLOAT WARE .... remember the PC is only good as the owner who knows how to use it as evn now days SOME people usning M2 are like its slow weh
Bloatware 🧐
Can you stop pronouncing words in the way that you do?
Maybe soon
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I like your voice, my man.
Yooo thank you! Means a lot.
I mean 1920x1200 is technically slightly higher res than 1920x1080 but it's just because it's 16:10, so it's not like it'll be any more pixel dense than a normal 1080p screen.
Very true, but it’s essentially more screen… also, compared to desktop 1080p panels, this looks a lot better. 17in is a good size at which the individual pixels don’t show up too much.