Andronikos III Palaiologos: The Last Roman Revival
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2020
- This video looks at the reign of Andronikos III Palaiologos from 1328-1341.
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Predocessor: Andronikos II
Successor: John V
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It looks like Andronikos III and John Kantakouzenos realized Anatolia was a lost cause and were working to create a geographically contiguous Greek state. Had Andronikos lived another ten years they might have succeeded in annexing the remaining petty Latin states in central Greece. If the civil war of the 1340s doesn't happen, maybe the Ottomans never cross over into Europe.
He and Constantine XI are the last good emperors of Rome. Andronikos III is really somewhat like a Majorian situation. If he reigned longer and provided a stable succession, the Romans could've survived perhaps the next two centuries. He lost crucial cities and territories in Anatolia tho, which in the long run proved deadly for the empire. Michael VIII should've focused more on the asian lands and if Andonikos II wasn't as incapable as he was, Byzantium could've experienced another golden age.
The loss of the Anatolian territories is a survivable event if Andronikos lived another ten years and the civil wars never happens. There is a decent chance the Latin principalities in central Greece are conquered and the ERE becomes a contiguous European Greek state that can hold its own against its neighbors. One can further speculate that if the ERE remains stable, it can recover some of western Anatolia if the Ottomans are decimated by Timur.
Exactly they are the last chads of East Rome and 1453 wasn’t the only reason Constantine xI is a chad he went on several successful campaigns
@@Secondkomnenian well.. after the unsuccessful Battle of Varna between a crusader army and a ottoman one Constantine continued conquering cities in Greece even tho he knew that the ottomans would come for him. I think they proposed him a about favourable peace treaty, but he didn’t accept and continued going on a rampage in Greece. This led to a ottoman army crushing his army and pillaging the Morea, the last truly prosperous region of the crumbling Empire
I think you can throw Manuel II in there as well. I just feel that he might have been able to do a whole lot more if he ruled a century or two before
If only he didn't die that abruptly and secured his son as heir the Empire could stand a bit more instead of plunging into two civil wars that gave up everything Andronikos fought to for.
Nice video ,didn't expect another host but he did a great job
Alternatively, if John had actually accepted to become Emperor, some of what happened next may not have happened.
Thank you very much.we both really enjoyed making this one.
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"As you may have already realized, this isn't the same voice that you're use to" Could of fooled of me.
A quick note, 9:34 John II Orsini was poisoned in 1335 but the rest of the events i describe ocuured in 1337. I didn't notice this small error until after I published the video.
The Roman revival,not the byzantine one.This is a foreign term.Otherwise,this was a very well done video.Continue the great work!
Ay it's the Eastern Roman Empire or Empire of the Romans not "Byzantine" empire
exactly.
Ales Jones exactly exactly ;)
Baghatur Tarkhan no you have no right to call the Eastern Roman Empire a Greek empire enjoy having no knowledge of the empire my ancestors lived in goodday
Baghatur Tarkhan you clearly have no knowledge :)
My heart goes to all the Greeks on this world, they should have taken Konstantinopolis and all of the Anatolia after the WWI.
Just the coasts of Ionia would have been nice.
@@alexandrostheodorou8387 after all the centuries of Turk oppression here in Balkan Peninsula at least you the Greeks should have taken back what is rightfully yours a mini Byzantine empire if you will. We here in Croatia still have legends about battles against the Turks.
@@ninohergotic1 How would taking all of Anatolia have worked? Greater Ionia region and Thrace was possible with population exchanges, prior to massacres and exchange Greeks numbered around 1.5-2 million in Asia minor whearas the Turks were 13 million. Had the Ottomans been defeated earlier and the Russian occupation of Armenia been more effective a few more may have survived and Turkey wouldn't have existed. The most important thing was control over the Bosphoros. That is one of the most strategically important places on earth which is why Turkey gets away with murder and remains a NATO member.
@@ninohergotic1 Trust me, If i could go back in time I would go back to the Greco-Turko War 1922. If the Greeks won the battle of Ancrya, Constantinople, all of Asia Minor would be back into Greek hands. The Turkish population is a genetic mix of Greek/Armenian/Turkic. Im more than sure with Asia Minor Greece could have been a super regional power. But it wasnt meant to be.
@@alexandrostheodorou8387 The greeks don't have the population for that, even if they gone indian style the own geography of the country wouldn't help. It would be easier to invite the Russians to retake Constantinople.
If he ruled in a more stable time he probably would have become one of the great conquering Emperors. In hindsight like his great grandfather Michael he should have focused more on Asia Minor but it may have just resulted in more if not worse defeats from the Ottomans.
I can see the arguement, the issue is there was so little possessions actually in Roman hands by the time Andronikos became sole emperor that he would essentially have been starting from scratch. Had he lived longer he may well have tried to penetrate into Anatolia again once Greece was in his control.
dope video. i didnt think there was a single competent andronikos, but this opened my eyes. once again, great job
It is all downhill from here
It's never been uphill. its just a slow decline since Justinianus the Great.
@@sandrojones8068 What about the Macedonian and Komnenian dynasties? They seemed pretty powerfull and prosperous.
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It has been brought back. It is called Greece.
@@paulmayson3129 Greece is not the ERE. That's like saying Italy = Roman Empire
There is a slight bright period at the beginning of the 15th century where the Empire re-takes Thessalonica and parts of the Greek coast and maintains friendly relations with the Ottomans for 20 years, but besides that yeah there isn't much.
Great video ERH. ;) This collab was fun, we should do it again sometime!
Indeed, it was awesome.
Great work 👍
Great video bloody fascinating.. literally.
Thank you very much. I am glad you enjoyd it.
12:07
you described it pretty vaguely.
It is more than just see the God's light..
can you make a video about heraclius
a very interesting emperor in my opinion
I do intend to.
@@EasternRomanHistory thank u my bruh
Those were the good old days going to war with him
From my knowledge, (which is somewhat limited in terms of byzantine history so I may be wrong) if his son John V wasnt an idiot (under his rule, the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire lost all territories except for Constaninople and tiny chunks of Greece), the empire could've had a proper revival.
GREAT JOB!!!!!!!
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Excellent video!
Thanks SPQR
It's kind of interesting that the modern borders of Greece mostly correspond to Andronikos III's homogeneous and land continuous Greek Empire, although the Greek gains during the Turkish War for Independence even more resembles the borders of 14th century Byzantium.
watching this video made me so sad... this is what a restoration looks like? how far the empire fell!
Had Andronikos III lived, who knows.
He should have focused on getting greece secured and then maybe Asia Minor.
Asia Minor was as Greek then as was Greece. At least the western parts
@@ioannisii.komnenos5931strategically Greece was easier to conquer.
AoM music suddenly playing and I don't know anymore if I'm in ERE History or OSP Blue's history videos
its a wonder they didn`t collapse earlier
Maybe not a great reign but a successful one
Aptly put.
Bowing and holding your breath are only accessories for the Jesus Prayer/Inner Prayer/Prayer of the Heart.
Even at the end Rome was still very strong
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if he lived longer he would've probably conquered greece. im not sure about anatolia but he would've been one of the good emperors. dont think he would prolonged the empire's lifetime by long though. still a good emperor in my opinion
Fun fact, Ibn Batutta met Andronikos III
Turkish lords were called beys, not emirs.
Oh and I think Anatolia is a better and more historical name then Asia Minor in my opinion :)
Asia Minor is attested, Anatolia isn't
A video from 1261-1328?
this is my bloodline and i knowthyself.. thank you for the research
they died out though supposedly.
@@Scourgeoftengri they family took the route and settled in cyprus in a village called ayios andronikos, north of Cyprus. this is special moment of recognition of the energy the Sun gave man. The mothers then named their daughters Sophia in memory of the efforts of Andronikos, aswell as the play touched by Shakespeare, the poem,that be that reign over the country of the uk that reign over the world wishing to have the national anthem evolve around them. this is the shame of the number 19 then added to to a new name not give permission. William cannot find the decency aswell as other egos of that family to open and have the feeling of being free from fear of truth they have been hiding from the world for years. You must of been the chosen one. The energy is veracious.
@@hh-iam5599 okay.
Awww
Every time a good emperor improves and stabilises the situation, fate decides to plunge byzantium even deeper into the abyss. Again and again, you think byzantium will make it, and then they go and ruin it. It's as if the Ottomans were railroaded to greatness because byzantium kept shooting itself in the foot.
Andronikos should have conquered the ottoman emirate
you have John 2nd die in 1337, yet show his dearth as 1335
Ah. I only just noticed that. John II was murdered in 1335 but the events that I refer to there were in 1337.
Ok...pretty good. You are incorrect in calling it the eastern Roman Empire. The Empire was united under the Romans under one Emperor in the 400's. The reconquest of the western part of the Empire began under Justinain the Great in the 500s. They freed Rome and took much of Italy, Egypt and North Africa and some parts of Spain. The Empire never divided again until its end in 1453.
It's jen o ease not jee o knees dude
Thats a shame, it was almost a win for the Roman's, but the typ false word made them run
The narrator struggles to pronounce Greek names and Greek terms in connection with the Byzantine Empire and YET blindly persists in talking about ''the Romans''. Hilarious. :) It's like someone bloody-mindedly insisting that the Holy Roman Empire was STILL ''Roman'' and not what it really was, largely Germanic - and not all that ''Holy''..
The narrator struggles to pronounce names in general, he even said "geo-nese" a couple times (thankfully I understood what he meant) but "blindly persisting" in calling the "byezanteyens" by their actual freakin name is hardly one of his flaws. And I've never seen any history youtuber calling the Holy Roman Empire anything other than that, despite its dubious romanitas or questionable holiness.
They are Romans, why do you doubt that?
Terrible voice
this were no romans but greeks who called themselfs romans.
No they were proper Romans. Deal with it!
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