FUN with an OLD COIN! - Elementalmaker
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- In this video we will use some chemistry magic to turn an old quarter into something a bit more interesting! Starting with a old silver quarter which is composed of 90% silver and 10% copper. We first refine the coin into pure silver, and redissolve the silver bead into nitric acid forming silver nitrate. Its at this point that we bubble acetylene gas through the solution of silver nitrate to form Silver Acetylide, a powerful and dangerous primary that cracks loudly like a party snap when ingited. Do not attempt this one at home!
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Fair warning CZcams almost shutdown my channel for a similar video.
Cody'sLab thank you for the warning Cody! I'm honored to have a comment from my all time favorite youtuber!
Just came from cody's new video :D You were in recommended
Haha Cody here. I´ve SADS also. 9 months hang. Age restrict was use. I wish a lot diamonds from own sandals or from anything. Into a New Year...:-)
what?
Cody'sLab CZcams is a pile of raging crap . glad to see you still running , Cody
I don't know why, but I was half expecting the words "Keep your stick on the ice." to be said at the end, let alone what I thought was going to be said while the camera was trying to focus.
I enjoyed watching this, and I hope I am not on any watch list now. XD
Agent Hambo glad to hear you enjoyed it! Love myself some AVE as well! Thanks for checking out my channel
Me too! Machinist, electronicles and explosives must put us on the next level of watch list. Congratulations! "Focus you fuck!".
Everyone needs a hobby!
Agent Hambo uncle bumblef$%k
exactly
If only we had intelligent programs on mainstream TV like this, something you can actually learn from.
Suzy Siviter. So would Terrorists. Not a good idea. I was intrigued to see how much silver was in a quarter. Not enough to go through all that work and danger.
Betty Linker: I was referring to the chemistry/science aspect rather than explosions; but any terrorist can just google stuff like that anyway.
you can just buy sodium nitrate in american hardware stores. you don't even need more than the chemistry you learn in school to make explosives with that lol
@@bettylinker4780 A little less than 1/5 of a troy oz. Ag, even though they were 90% fine. There is little danger in isolating the silver from the copper. We did that in Analytical Chem. lab.
But they're conquering America by every means allowed. Which reminds me. Any country allowing computer voting might as well just surrender. Except they already have. Deuteronomy 28.
I'm glad that some commenters were not the fathers of you. me, Thomas Edison, Tesla, or any of the other bold geniuses who made discoveries by not being "kinder, gentler". If it weren't for risk-takers we wouldn't have the marvels we enjoy today. Thank you for taking a risk, however small or big. - from an old retired chemist who started with a Gilbert chemistry set back in the 50's, when he was 8 and made a lot of smelly, often flammable and even explosive compounds without losing any eyes or fingers.
Leave Thomas Edison out of the equation, he was in it for the money and payed off inventors that worked for him, taking their inventions and calling them his: "You work for me, so what you make is mine"....the same thing he tried to do to Tesla but Tesla told him to stuff it and went off on his own.
@@DrTeddyMMM , ... And what about 90% of the contemporary professors, do they do it differently nowdays ? Aren't they in the same boat of the feasting on the students work ?
I had one of those kits
Chlorinetriflouride, the best part of the old chemistry sets.
@@DrTeddyMMM you are very naive to think that the employer does not have full rights to any invention made by his employees. Nobody would hire people to cut them out of the product they intended to make. Edison was a great commercial success. Tesla was a failure. He zeroed in on to many impractical dead ends.
excelent video my friend, i have always been interested in chemestry and wish id have excelled more from school but in my days i had to work to help support my family, still im now 59 and able to have pastimes and make my own fireworks so im sure i can use this in my pyrotechnics of the future, thank you very much and God bless you and your family
Thank you, but definitely keep this stuff away from pyro use. It's way too sensitive to be safely used for anything in the pyro field. Stick to good ole flash when you need a loud bang 👍
This really brings back memories. When I was in college in the early 70s for chemistry, I made silver, copper, and mercury acetylides. Back then, the professors thought it was cool too, and experimenting in this way was expected from a chemistry student. If I remember correctly, the copper acetylide was more sensitive than the silver and degraded, turning dark brown (mix of elemental copper and carbon). The mercury acetylide was extremely sensitive and exploded while still moist as I was spreading the pieces during the drying process. It went off with a loud bang but didn't have the brisance in it's moist state to break the watch glass or glass rod I was using. It was like a cartoon explosion: loud noise, the watch glass, glass rod, and my hand blackened from the carbon residue, but no harm done. I'm fortunate to have survived those days. Very nice video and a good chemistry lesson! If it weren't for the occasional inappropriate language, I would play it for my chemistry students.
Holy s***! Great job. I am impressed!
" I made significantly more than I wanted to" code talk for "yikes! I better pay attention before I lose a hand!
kandkmotorsports your damn right there!
and for legal purposes lol
kandkmotorsports lol. A triangle firecracker blew up in my hand. Still have both hands but hearing loss in left ear and tinnitus
One of my friends at around 13years old blew up a small hill in his fathers field. He totally levelled that hill and collected about 50 dead rabbits afterwards. Some had been ejected from the hill as it had contained the main warren which had kindly accepted many small sacks of modified fertiliser. That damned hill jumped about 3-4 foot in the air and took us both off our feet even when a long ways away hiding in a drainage ditch. His dad was well pleased about the rabbits and having a field for planting crops which was normally used for cattle now and again. But when he found out how much fertiliser had been used, he wasn't a happy man.
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NightHawkInLight. excellent video
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
I am impressed. Well done. You have an amazing understanding of the process.
Jim Ferguson thank you Jim! I appreciate it! Thanks for checking out my channel!
As a former coin collector I am saddened, but as an amateur mason jar chemist, I'm thoroughly entertained. I'll definitely leave playing with primary explosives up to you and others that really know what they're doing while I watch in fascination.
I just received my 35% hydrogen peroxide today and I'm nervous enough handling that. LOL.
Then why do you need 35 % peroxide for ?
I'm using it for many things. I'm not as nervous handling it now. I just know to be careful and to fully understand anything I work with.--thoroughly read through MSDS sheets.
"former" coin collector? Did you end up turning all the coins into explosives? :p
Matthew Wilson Matthew this is exactly my point. While this idea is a little interesting if you know and understand the science, I just feel sorry for all the 10-14 year old boys and a few girls that will likely lose their eyesight a few fingers or bad burns because they don’t understand what’s involved. Videos like this would be banned to the general public in a kinder safer Great America where our children would be safe from closet scientists..#mytwocentsworth
LOL. Nope. I still have them all. I just don't grow the collection. My kids will get my collection some day.
This video is what got me into energetics and chemistry in general. Now i have a pretty full amateur lab and lots of knowledge. Thankyou!
That is so awesome to hear! Thank you!
Great video. Entertaining and educational as well. One small suggestion if I may. Instead of sodium chloride try using potassium chloride.. Does the same job but converts both the silver and copper nitrate into chlorides and leave some good old fashioned "potassium based oxygen" in solution ready to crystallise out and use for other fun stuff. I've been doing this with my silver refining for the past year and i have recovered a little over 10kg of the stuff. I use mine to generate more nitric acid but I am sure that you can come up with many more "entertaining" things to do with it.
You do not want to react copper chloride with acetylene if you wish to dry the material. Copper acetylide is very sensitive when dry.
Both copper acetylide and silver acetylide are impact and friction sensitive. I seem to recall that the copper compound is the more sensitive of the two when dry.
Cool but man what a lot to go through. Oh well, thats chemistry for ya. Enjoyed the video, thanks for making it.
So interesting to watch. You know your stuff very well.
Sacco Belmonte I appreciate it! Thanks for checking out my channel!
I love everything about this video. The random starting materials, the bad background, the toxic chemicals, the terrible lab equipment, the bad safety, and not least the fact that he's making illegal explosives in his home. It's amazing, and I want to try this someday.
It's surprisingly not illegal in most US jurisdictions as long as you follow the rules.
Thanks Much; Initially thought you were going to produce
silver fulminate👍
That's super cool never knew you could do something like that
Enjoyed your video thanks for sharing "WOW"😀👍🙄
David Bennett thanks a bunch!
You’re like a grown up, manly Cody’s lab...
A Martin haha why thank you. Love Cody's channel!
I've always thought Cody was a bit of a fop but so am I so
you just earned my sub sir. Congratulations on a great video.
Very nice video.
thanks for sharing.
I just found this channel a week or so ago and have been checking it out here and there until today. Now I’m stuck and feeling like a mischievous little boy that just found out what happens when you add the works (blue cap) and some foil into a bottle, cap it off and gtfo.
Long ago (back when I was just a wee boy) one of my dads friends knew this trick and performed it with large amounts the proper ingredients (prepped with the correct ratio) then chucked it into a 5 gallon bucket that had a locking sealing lid. They quickly positioned this receptacle under an old 1-ton truck and had every stay far back. If you read this far and have picked up what I’m putting down I’m sure you know what happened next. When that glorious moment went down 2 things happened. 1) I got to watch the front end of truck jump and 2) My mind was forever tainted knowing stuff like this can be done.
Now I’m a father and it’s been years since I dad or seen anything like that but watching this channel has me wanting to figure out similar experiments I can legally do in small and safe batches and have some fun with my sons while getting them interested in home chemistry.
If anyone actually read this to the end and has any suggestions on experiments that would be legal safe and cool to do with my boys drop a comment. It would be greatly appreciated.
Nighthawkinlight sent me here too. Love your videos! You obviously are a chemist.
I love your disclaimer at the beginning of the video. " let me be the dummy" I thoroughly enjoy your content
I've always been fascinated with chemistry where did you learn to be so proficient at it?
That was so awesome
WOW, cool chan.! Now you've got another member... ME.!.. Seriously, good & comprehencable material with detailed info.! I'm sold. :)
Concentrated nitric acid oxidizes metals creating a passivating layer. Always add a little water until it starts reacting, it shouldn't have taken that long.
NEVER COMMENT BEFORE FINISHING THE VIDEO...sighs.
Yeah it was a bit of a brain-fart on my end! Thanks for checking out my channel!
Wait I thought he ended up doing that?
OH DAMNIT! NEVER COMMENT BEFORE READING THE OTHER COMMENTS!! :-P
Hahah'
Tomás Allende: Would adding more water to NaHo for Aluminium reaction also help prevent the passivating layer?
As a numismatist, I highly disprove of this!
As an amateur chemist, I love it!
No fear, my hoarde of silver I plucked that coin from has all been declared junk grade, so no numismatic value
@@ElementalMaker Excellent! Glad to hear it. As a person who also has a lot of junk silver, I know exactly how that goes.
Is that the same stuff that's in throw-pops?
no those are silver fulminate. Its more sensitive iirc
Great video hope to see more stuff soon
The Siren thanks! You definitely will!
ElementalMaker thanks for the reply great channel
This video is awesome!
will that potassium hydroxide reaction also work with other metallic chlorides like lead chloride?
How much punch does it have say compared to gunpowder or tnt
Doesn't silver chloride convert straight to silver if you leave it in light (or heat it?)
If enjoying this puts me on a watch list I don’t care. It was definitely educational and interesting to watch. Keep up the good work! Don’t let the man get you down. By the way, where did you learn all this?
You can ignite this explosive, but can it also be detonated by impact, like silver fulminate?
got a question is this shock sensitive like in a primary explosive used in detonators?
John Sexton yes its quite sensitive. Thanks for the comment, I should have mentioned that in the video.
whats more expenisve the silver or the nitric acid
Would the principles be the same if another metal was used such as aluminium?
water helps with the acids ionization as well, concentrated HNO3 will not react as fast until you dilute it with water to make it ionize.
Great video. Thanks!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for checking out my channel!
"lab grade equipment" ... made me lol
What if you don't refine the silver to get the pure silver and just leave the copper in? Will it still work just not s well?
The copper forms a very unstable compound, so I wouldn't want to leave it in
what happens if you hit it with a hammer ?
Great video man
Could silver acetilide be used in primer caps for bullets?
I would think it would be quite good for that actually. Don't try without do your own research though. My opinion could be way off lol
All through the video I was waiting for a BANG and a piece of hand to land on the table, a scream and then a blank screen. :-))
Nice video. Is this as powerful as nitrogen tri-iodide or even acetone peroxide?
Great question, I'd assume given it's historical use in blasting caps it packs quite a punch, but I haven't compared it to those so I can't say for certain
wow cool vid dude!
Just curious. Does silver acetylide detonate on impact?
yes, as most primaries do (as long as you hit it hard enough)
This is really off topic, but know you are a chemical expert, whats the best way to get dried Emulsion off carpets? )
Very cool video! Is this the compound they use in the little snap-pops? I remember Cody's lab getting silver from them, and makes me think this might be the compound they use.
I'm not sure if that is the exact same compound. If memory serves correct I think snap-pops are silver fulminate... I may have to make that a future video! Thanks for the great idea!
I made silver fulminate many years ago. You'll get a memorable apple smell in the fumes given off during manufacture.
Oh and it's easier to do by just buying a 1 ounce silver bar which can still be had for under $20, and just using a very small piece for the experiment.
Moronic Pest
I think that’s hydrogen cyanide
Conduit no, that would smell like almonds. The apple scent could be from some esters formed in the reaction process involving the ethanol and acid.
I don't know how you figure this shit out, but I'm glad you share!
Thanks Jason! Glad your enjoying!
I enjoyed watching you on Nurdrage too.
Lol no relation to nurdrage, although I love his videos.
AP also has a nice loud snap to it.
You got a thumbs up!And a sub!Ãn i rang the bell.
Love it!
Could this be crushed down into a powder for an even faster burn?
Considering the sensitivity of SA, I would NOT advise attempting to grind or crush it.
What's the consequence of leaving the copper and silver solutions mixed together? Isn't copper acetylide also explosive?
The copper salt is much more sensitive from the literature I have read, thus removing the copper for the pure silver salt makes for a slightly more stable compound.
Why when you dissolved the silver coin, you had to heat it and add a bunch of water but when you dissolved the silver BB, you just used the same acid?
Shane K the nitric I used is 70% concentrated, so there wasn't enough water to dissolve the whole coin. The bead had a much smaller mass and was able to dissolve without issue. Thanks for checking out my channel!
Very good synthesis of silver acetylide¡¡. I guess the silver oxide can be directly reacted with nitric acid to form silver nitrate. Thus obviating the need for the crucible step
So whats this used for normally? for mining or something like that?
I think it's just has been phased out for a long time due to safer and more effective compounds being made. Mostly just a neat chemistry experiment nowadays
Damn....pretty cool. New subscriber here 🤙
Glad to have you aboard! Thanks for your sub 👍
"don't try it at your home"
Ok, I'll do it in my room
But... Isn't that still at your home? Or are you rocking a tree fort room or some wild shit?
@@ElementalMaker some wild dorm room btw and close to the tree fort
That's where I painted my bike when I was 17. I didn't know it was going to make so much overspray HA! Our house was 15' from my dad's body shop.
Now this is my kind of chemist
ALL MEMES TO BE EXTERMINATED A glad you like it!
Very cool! 🤙
Which step provided the bulk of the energy that gets released by the Silver Acetylide? Was it one of your heating steps, or was it some energy input by the manufacturer of your intermediate substances (calcium carbide, acid, etc)?
The energy is provided by the breaking of bonds.
@@buggsy5 Believe when I say that I typed the following with the friendliest tone imaginable:
No shit, sherlock. :)
In order for there to be energy releasable from those bonds, some stage(s) of his process had to input that energy. From my googling:
* Calcium Carbide is made (industrially) in an arc furnace at 2200°C
* He used heat at several stages in this video.
So I imagine those are at least some of the sources of the energy being released by the final product.
@@RyanBissell When the acetylene is reacted with the silver, the hydrogen atoms on the acetylene molecule are replaced by silver atoms. It is the breaking of the triple carbon bond that releases the energy. Acetylene itself is quite unstable, which is why it is stored dissolved in acetone when pressurized.
There wasn't any place that heat was necessary to change a chemical composition or bond, so any heat he added was incidental. The silver and nitric acid would have eventually started reacting by themselves and, since the reaction is exothermic, would have sped up spontaneously. He also added a bit of heat to dry the compound, but all that did was remove the water content in the mixture.
@@buggsy5 That's interesting, thanks.
I've heard it said that aluminum has been called "congealed electricity", because of all the energy input required to refine it out of bauxite ore. And, that this energy input is the reason why thermite reactions are so vigorous, in their output.
So, attempting to apply that lesson, I was wondering if there was some analogous step in the production of the precursors for Silver Acetylide. This is why I asked about the 2200°C heating during the creation of Calcium Carbide (which was then used to make the acetylene, here.)
Pretty pure Ag from this method. Respectively for pure SA-DS. Important method for apart Ag from Cu. Good work.
Laboratory of Liptakov I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for checking out my channel!
OK, subscribed...:-)
Brilliant!!
Has anyone tried this/these for making percussion caps for a black powder revolver? I am leaning toward to the side, who votes that this stuff is way too unstable.
It is far too sensitive for use in making percussion caps. Research mercury fulminate instead - or maybe one of the azides would work.
Would you be able to or is it even possible for you to make any amount of cbn? (cubic boron nitride) with what you have to work with ever on this channel in the future? Or am i talking silly talk?
I used to make Mercury Fulminate at home in college. I tried to make Silver Fulminate once with some old silver quarters and it didn't work. Probably for the best since I probably would've blown my hand off.
i remember melting silver oxide into silver on a charcoal briquette using a straw to blow on it back in high school chemistry class
Very cool! Never would have thought to try that!
@@ElementalMaker Before our fancy pressurized bottles of gas were available, chemists and others used blow pipes. My ancient jeweler's blowpipe is kicking around somewhere.
thats a damn fine hotplate ya got there..who made it?
Does this stuff react to compression, or is it heat only?
It'll definitely go bam with a good impact
Also friction.
LOL 11:51 , all of that from a complete silver quarter. Now that IS amazing.
That was actually just a small portion of the silver recovered, those quarters about about 93% silver.
Wow that’s a lot for high explosives. Didn’t imagine it took so much to do that. Awesome. I was wondering about the off gas of the nitrousdioxide, is it able to be converted to nitrous oxide? I always wondered how they make laughing gas.
No
The real hero here is that god damned wood q-tip
yep your on a list for sure. don't worry I'm on a list to
Do I need to get any special permits to perform these experiments?
M Duncan that's research you will have to do yourself
Until now, I was completely unaware of metal azides. Thank you very much. It seems that mercury fulminate is an azide also.
No. It is acetilide, not azide. Neither the fulminate. Azids has N3 part. Silver-acetilide is Ag2C2. Silver fulminate (also explosive) is AgCNO.
Thanks for clarifying that.
Sagrotan
Yes, about as toxic as cyanides.
It must be the CN portion
Azide doesn't have any CN, it's an N3- molecule. Its toxic effect is similar to cyanide though (blocks cellular metabolism) and like cyanide it puts out toxic fumes. Unlike cyanide though it doesn't have an antidote (the antidote for cyanide is thiosulfate, but that doesn't work for azide). So, as toxic as cyanide and no antidote. Stay away.
Best channel on the tube....
Damn that's a tall compliment. Thank you Glenn 👍
It didn't make sense to get rid of copper because copper acetylide is also an explosive and created the same way. You would have got a mix what behaves the same way.
dorzsboss the reason I removed copper is that copper acetlyide is much more sensitive to shock and friction than the silver compound. I forgot to mention that in the video, so thank you for bringing it up! Hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for checking out my channel!
it is interesting. I made both and I experienced silver acetylide being way more sensitive. It exploded when I scratched it out from a spoon. Copper-acetylide only exploded by fire, or hammering it.
Yeah, I'm guessing the copper acetylide is closer to the absolute uselessness of nitrogen tri-iodide. At least nitrogen tri-iodide (triiodide? dunno) makes a nice purple cloud. I gotta say its a little odd that you chose to wear gloves for the entire video except for the part where you reaaaally should have worn gloves.
htomerif No, you gess wrong. Copper acetylide does not explode by touching it.
Well, I didn't guess, I looked it up on wikipedia and saw that it was a shock and heat sensitive high explosive. I also tried to find any uses for it. If it were stable then at least someone would have used it as primer for cartridges. There are references for silver acetylide being used as a primer, but I'm guessing its not cost effective.
Since neither of us has actually made it or seen it used, I can say that me calling it as bad as nitrogen triiodide is a little hyperbolic, but neither of us actually knows by how much.
Filters, filters, filters. To prevent as much loss as possible, we chemists use filters while decanting.
Know this is an old video, but is there a reason you started by using nitric acid and converting the nitrates into chlorides instead of just dissolving the coin in HCL?
Silver won't dissolve in hcl
@@ElementalMaker Ah, so then it won't react unless it's in solution. I see.
@@Fate.s-End yessir, and to make the salt we did here, it must be silver nitrate in solution.
Very cool can you come up with a way to get silver plating off of things and then condense it back to Silver
Same thing you see here.
Using this method for silver plated stuff would be very inefficient. The best method for getting silver from silver plated items is through electrolysis. That being said, even that method is in no way efficient enough to be profitable unless you have tons of silver plated stuff. There is very very little silver on silver plated items.
When I was a kid they sold slivers of wood dipped in that Silver salt and dried out, then sold for Cigar loads ...lol
I bought some of those at a county fair years ago. They were fun! Also bought some flash paper off the same guy.
In minecraft, you actually don't need to isolate the silver by itself, the end product while it may contain copper acetylide will still have sufficient brisance as that is also a PE.
And when you put the hydroxide you are actually developing just like film in photography..... If you make your silver nitrate in a darkroom and coat paper with it keep it in the dark until exposure then hydroxide you have done the photographic process
Hi. Where you buy those fast gloves? haha
Could you diagram that out?
When you make the bangs you should have a decibel meter so we can get an idea how loud it is
wasn't there a bunch of Aluminium in your NaOH?
That looks like a whole lot of work for a firecracker 🤣
I was expecting some zinc flash powder but I was pleasantly surprised
AF Bennett glad to add that exciting little twist to your life!
silver spoons shouldnt make much difference right ?
As long as it has silver...
If you can still find a solid silver spoon that hasn't already been scrapped.....
As I coin collector, I was very very scared at the title, but nice video.
Still that coin.
Glad you enjoyed, I too felt bad for the coin, but science is worth the sacrifice! Thanks for checking out my channel!
You really don’t need silver nitrate that’s used I assume because it’s souble silver salt but I’m asking can you use souble silver carbonate
I wonder what the thermite would be like with silver oxide...
you got a point there. anyways. i believe in the freedom for one to do what one wants as long as it does not hurt others and it is a interesting video even if it is dangerous
Appreciate it Eddie. Hope you enjoyed the video! (Other than the poor old coin loosing its soul LOL)