Sir, this is really helpful. My kids play competitive and I've been recording their games and producing them for a year now. I've been using my Iphone 11... however. I wanted to find a decent 4K camera and setup - you helped me here.
Good stuff. One additional scenario that I face quite frequently in sunny California is the sideline being filled with easy easy-ups and umbrellas. Or filming facing the sun. I film with a couple of different setups, depending on my mood. AX53 or iPhone 14 Pro Max w/ Moment lens, remote controlled by a DJI Ronin Gimbal and Sony PS4 controller, 15ft stand. Insta360 cameras are behind the goals. All edits are done in Luma Fusion on my iPad, clock, score , slow mo replays.
For filming into the sun, I bought a black 12x18 inch piece of plexiglass, and drilled some holes into it so that I can screw it onto a hotshoe attachment. It provides shade to the lens of the camera and allows for better video to be taken. For the umbrellas on the sidelines, if I'm able to go back far enough, it's not a big deal. But if someone has a VEO on the same side as me (which means I have to set up right on the sideline to prevent them from blocking my shot), then I just have to suffer through it.
Thanks for your Video. I have been trying to get my Grand Son's Games at a indoor Place that has Plexiglass except at both side line a half door. So purchased a Extra Gopro to get fixed footage aimed at both ends of the field then use a Lumix G95 with a Zoom. So the Go pro's save me when they are up close and during large movements that I am forced to make. Using Davinci Resolve 18 studio to edit so it is supper easy to sync all the cams using the audio. I used to shoot basketball for Tv stations years ago and had the opportunity to be in a Box with no one to worry about. So I totally agree with distance and height. I am going to be looking forward to when my Grand Son starts playing outside.
Thanks for the video really good for some helpful tips, I film Lacrosse with a 24ft Highmast I use a Sony AX53 that helps with the stability at that height and use a JJC wireless remote to control the zoom, I have the CX10 as well but Im dubious at having that at full height
My CX10 got some focus issues, so I bought a AG-CX350. That thing is massive. It's three times the size of the AG-CX10. I can record with it on my shoulder, without needing any sort of shoulder harness. It's insane.
This is awesome, thank you so much ! I did my first attempt last weekend, in the snow/hail. Your advice and suggestions are super helpful, I did some of the mistakes you mentioned.
Thanks. I was meaning to tell you, I have a spare field monitor if you want it. I can't remember if you had gotten one already or not. It's a NEEWER F100. I found it not quite bright enough on sunny days, but for most days it worked fine.
@@JeremyHalbert Thanks, ironically I ended up with 2 as well, I ordered one and they sent me two (got the same one as you). When I contacted them to ship it back, they said just keep it. I am at the about 7 foot level right now filming, will try to master that first.
Great video, Jeremy, thank you for posting! Did you consider - sorry if I missed from previous comments - using Veo or other tracking systems? I assume yes but you voted for the best possible quality. :) Thanks!
This is a great video. I am interested in using Premiere Pro to make ease of grabbing highlights, adding things like the scoreboard, music, etc. (edit: nevermind, I see it requires a monthly subscription through Adobe). For a novice, how difficult would you say it is to use the editing software? I have a Sony AX53 which does 4k30fps but decided that the quality of 1080p is adequate as I value the 60fps. I got the Neewer 13ft light stand to use as a tripod for the camera setup, and buying a pan/tilt motor which I use via joystick. Now all I need is the video field monitor to watch the action (thinking a tablet with decent nit rating for outdoor use).
Thanks! I think Premiere Pro can be easy to use in a narrow scope of adding video, adding audio, and editing down to highlights. I'll post a video of my editing process in a few weeks which you can view as a reference. For the scoreboard, I can share the Essential Graphics file that I created if you just want to reuse it. Creating your own is a bit more work and can come with a lot of headaches. But if you're able to use mine, or find a free one to download and use, then it's pretty easy to update it in Premiere Pro for each game. I think the setup you described would work well. Some things to focus on would be to ensure that the light stand is stable enough. I did a quick comparison of a light stand we had in the house, and it flexed quite a bit more than the setup I've settled on. Also, with the pan/tilt motor, check the speed of it. I bought a cheap one from Amazon ($90.00 USD) and used it in one game last year, but I wasn't able to keep up with the ball. Maybe if you're far back enough a slow one will work, but I found it insufficient for my needs at that time. A more expensive one probably would have been able to do better. For the field monitor, double check what the Sony AX53 can output while recording. My first attempt with my Sony AX100 failed because I found that it couldn't record in 4K and output anything to the monitor, so I had to lower my recording to 1080p. It sounds like that's your preferred format anyhow, so it may not be a concern for you. Good luck with your setup!
Really good video Jeremy. Well done. As people are putting a lot on tiktok, shorts etc in portrait mode. What would be your advice on that? Record in landscape would loose a lot of video quality as you will cut out a lot of the frame later.
Since I record in 4K, I can zoom in about 200%, export it for Instagram with the standard vertical aspect ratio, and don't feel like I've lost anything on quality. Here's one recent example. czcams.com/users/shortsLinrv_lCGBw
Last question, 😊. My camera seems to catch ALOT of parent chatter from the stadium stands. What do u recommend to help with this? I don’t want the entire video muted. As we enjoy listening to the players communicating. Reminder, I have SonyX53
I have used a notch filter before to try to dull the parent chatter, but it also impacts the coach and kids talking. Getting a directional mic to attach is probably your best bet, since it will try to eliminate audio behind and to the sides.
In post production, I put the raw audio at about 30% and I always put music in the background. Yes, you don't hear specific player/coach chats, but you eliminate the parent chatting you mention and wind buffeting. I personally feel you need current background music to keep the soccer interesting. If there is a specific conversation I want to highlight, I then manually put the raw audio up to 70% and the music down to 30%.
Can you provide information on all of the equipment that you are using plus the costs for each? I would like to have an idea of what you paid and what exactly you are using to record soccer games. Appreciate your time on this.
Great video! Appreciate you posting this. Id like to see your future video explaining your set up more in depth ive had the same issue of not being tall enough to record & ended up buying a pan/tilt since you cant control from the ground. But i think your way might be more cheaper and faster. Also is premiere pro the same as premiere rush on mobile ive never used it but want to start uploading games with the scoreboard/time etc so the players can see themselves playing, i seen in one of your comments you wouldnt mind sharing your essential scoreboard/time file id appreciate it if you can i know it would make my life way easier on adobe since ive never edited a video before ever. Anyways glad you posted this hope you get back to me. Subscribed.
Thanks, Jose. I'll try to get the set up video completed in the next few weeks. If you could let me know which pan/tilt control you got, and whether it's fast enough to do the job, I'd appreciate it. I'm nervous about spending a bunch of money on another one if it's as slow as the $100 dollar one that I tried last summer. Adobe Premiere Pro is similar to Adobe Premeire Rush, but it's a lot more robust and powerful. I tried importing the mogrt file into Rush, but it won't accept it the way Premiere Pro does. I searched online and found that the Graphics Templates created from After Effects are only usable in Premiere Pro, not Premiere Rush. I'll share the file here anyhow, and you can try in both applications if you want. drive.google.com/file/d/1ji0opBJBv59jDiAJPLXTp2HzmazA9HUs/view?usp=sharing
@@JeremyHalbert Thanks for sharing the socerboard. I did install in my premier pro but it just showed a blank black screen. Would you mind double check your essenial scoreboard/time again. Thanks
stock.adobe.com/templates/data-driven-scoreboard-infographic/347918282 -That's the main intro 1drv.ms/u/s!AnypHsUZO2KLipo9KZQW2kDy1Xwbwg?e=VPeQxr - That's the clock/timer that shows for the entire game.
My older Sony FDR-AX100 has a 1 inch sensor and does better in low light. But I can't record in 4K while using a monitor with it. I would say that focusing on getting a larger sensor will give you the best chance of good low light games.
I’ve been skimming through your CZcams channel and have enjoyed your content and I'm hoping you can help me out. I'm looking to buy a camera that can record my soccer games, but I don't have anyone to manually move the camera, so I need something that can capture the full field from a stationary position. I was hoping you might have some recommendations for a camera that's budget-friendly and costs around $500 or less. Ideally, it should also be easy to use and have good quality video. I'd really appreciate any advice you could give me on this. Thanks so much for your time and keep up the awesome content on your channel!
I haven't looked into the current cameras available in the last few years. But the features I would focus on would be in this order. 1. Sensor Size/Quality (GoPro 4K zoomed in is worse than my Sony with the 1 inch sensor at 1080p. More pixels doesn't always mean better quality). 2. Optical Zoom ability. A GoPro will show the full field, but for my purposes, I want to be zoomed in more than without sacrificing quality. 3. 4K - if I have the above 2, then getting more pixels is key. at 500 dollars or less, I would probably end up going with a 1080p camera and you can balance the zoom vs picture quality as best you can. Also make sure that if you need to use it with a field monitor, some cameras can only record at lower qualities when outputting to a field monitor. My Sony recorded great in 4K, but I could only record 1080p when outputting to my monitor.
I thought I answered this earlier, sorry for the late reply. I have two camera setups because I keep all my old gear, and when I upgraded my system, I had enough old components to create two. I also have two kids, and if there's conflict in their games, one of the other parents is usually willing to take my old setup and record the game for me. I don't usually record two perspectives. However, if we end up in a really awesome finals somewhere that would make highlights much more appealing to show to colleges, then I would try to get multiple angles and put in the work on the editing side to make it more professional. I just haven't tried that yet due to the amount of work it would be.
Great video and very informative. I am wanting to record my field hockey games and I have a few questions. What do you think of a cannon EOS 80D camera for recording and do you have any recommendations for a camera that is less than 1000 NZD. What do you think of Microsoft ChipChamp for video editing and do you have any recommendations for free editing software. Also what is your opinion on GoPro's, how much of the field do you see and what is the quality like. Thank you very much.
Unfortunately, most of those questions are outside my area of expertise. I do know that some cameras like the EOS 80D may have a maximum video length, so if that camera is one, and if your halves are more than 30 minutes, you may need to start and stop recording partway through each half. I try to avoid that. I only really know Premiere Pro for editing, so I can't really speak to any others out there. The GoPro does a good job of getting the whole field, but I find it tough to identify who is who on the field when I've used the GoPro in the past.
Camcorders can make it a lot easier for you. DSLR and other non-camcorder options sometimes have limitations on how long of a file they can record. Some cut off after 30 minutes. If you have one where that's not a problem, then you may get a better quality video out of it. But for me, the simplicity of a camcorder wins. For a sports gimbal, I find the tripod is sufficient. But my wife did just get a gimbal for her DSLR, and it's been great to get the stable video. If I had a DSLR and wanted to just get shorter action shots of the games instead of the full game, I'd definitely go for a gimbal.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I tried the camcorder and liked it. The gimbal was more difficult likely because I tried three at once and they sort of cross circuited. For the games, I think I’m going to have two camcorders pointing in opposite directions because I find panning to be difficult. And I only ever seem to get one half of the field in the frame at one time. The thing is that I cannot see what I’m recording while I’m filming. A monitor would be helpful. So I’m on the hunt. Any gear recommendations you have would be much appreciated.
I notice these footages are in Seattle area (Redmond, Woodinville). Then I found someone just like me who loves taking soccer games. Since I wanted to record my own game, my setup is different. I found my best location is placing my Yi 4k+ behind the goal at ~15 ft high above. It won't get everything but it is an okay angle for all the attacks running up to the goal and the shots. Here is an example. czcams.com/video/20_9MgICY6E/video.html
Question, what height is the tripod for this video? It’s perfect! I agree w/u about those too high, producing lousy visibility when zooming in. Is there a camera you’d recommend at reasonable price with same quality
I think it is around 11 feet. Check the Panasonic line. The one I have is top line, but they have a full line of similar ones, just without all the bells and whistles that take the same quality video, I would look at those.
@@JeremyHalbert I’ll look at Panasonic, as u suggested. I hadn’t really considered that brand. How do u feel about Sony FDR-AX53 ? It’s only shoots 30FPS. Do u think that will produce good quality video?
As far as camera quality goes, I think it'll do just fine for 1080p, and let you get the zoom that you need. However I don't know anything about it's output capabilities to be able to record and view on a separate monitor. I had to switch from my older Sony because it wouldn't record at the highest quality while outputting video to the monitor. So that would be the main thing I'd want to confirm before buying.
Would love to get details on your set up. Do you think a GoPro would be good enough? My brain keeps telling me I need something water resistant. Thanks!
I should get the set up video done in a few weeks. I use a camcorder with optical zoom, because I think the GoPro with no zoom would not allow me to get good enough quality video to use in highlight clips. Especially if the action is on the far side of the field. You're right about wanting rain protection. I do have a rain cover for my camcorder, and I also created a plexiglass 12"x18" flat cover that attaches to the top of the camcorder to prevent rain from directly hitting the camera, or from getting on the lens itself.
I'll post the full list of links to the products that I've got when I post the next video, but here's a quick answer for you as well. For the pan handle extension it's SmallRig 15mm Threaded rods (16inch) (www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZFX77S), plus some 15mm clamps that I use to make sure that they don't unscrew while in use. I had to use a bit of muscle to get the first 15mm rod into the video fluid head, because it was designed to accept a rod that was slightly thinner in diameter. For the tripod, I recently bought a Geekoto 72 inch because it looked more stable (www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WVV6L7S), but honestly it doesn't seem to have a massive improvement over the shorter single tube manfrotto that I already had.
How can I get my Veo 1st generation camera to get that same end result quality video you have? Should i go up a certain feet and closer to the sideline?
I don’t think it’s possible. Those use a digital zoom to capture the relevant area of the field, so the quality is already reduced. I’m using optical zoom to manually track the play, and using a camera that’s designed for higher quality recording to begin with. If VEO had an 8K camera option, it might close the gap a bit. But any automated system available today just won’t compete on the video quality. They win in other areas though, like ease of use.
Give me a dollar amount and I’ll give my best recommendation that will be a combination of height and stability. For me, cheap means under 200 dollars, because I know the best tripods can run into the thousands, but I don’t want to recommend one that costs 180 if you’re looking for something in the below 50 range.
Here's one that I think is inexpensive at $118.00, but good and stable. It is a bit bulkier than a single tube option though. The video head on this is good enough to get smooth pan/tilt. www.amazon.com/dp/B0784CWMP4
Hey Jeremy, I am considering recording my future soccer games for the next season. I do not have much resources for a camera or camera equipment. However, I do own probably one of the best video recording smartphone (iPhone 13 Pro Max). So my question to you as an expert would be: do you think I can record "good enough" videos with my iPhone 13 Pro Max? and also what kinda equipment would you recommend for me recording the games with my phone? Kind Regards
I think you could get 'good enough; with the iPhone. I tried recording a game with my iPhone and did about a 1.4x zoom and put it on top of my normal setup. It wasn't as high quality, and I in my test I couldn't control the zoom, but I think it was still OK. I'm not sure about equipment to use when recording with a phone. I have seen someone do it at a game where they have a computer screen that they use to control a pan/tilt/zoom machine, but most of the time I just see people with a small tripod and a tripod to phone adapter.
@@JeremyHalbert Thank you very much for your comment. I bought one of these small tripods with like snake legs and wrapped those legs around the fence which is on the side of the pitch and about 2 meters high. Have to make it work:D
I recorded my son's high school games with an iPhone 13 Pro Max a top a 5 foot tripod always though in the stadium stands so I always get a good elevated view. Video quality is good at 1080 unless it gets too dark or stadium lighting is not good. I think I might try filming at 4K. I sit about row 10 so I am about 20 ft above the field. On a tripod, I can swivel smoothly. I have gotten pretty adept at using my 2 fingers to zoom in and out of the action. My biggest complaint is I am watching the whole game from my camera and my zooming is labor intensive.
The Panasonic line of camcorders that I use (cx350, cx10) do support that with NDI. You can connect via cable or Wifi to a network and stream live. I however don’t do that because I cannot record in 4k and stream at a lower bitrate 720p simultaneously. Also, the streaming from my network always seems to lag or have other network issues. So when I want to stream, I just attach my phone to the top of my camcorder and stream from the phone while recording on the main camera.
@@burski23, I use a phone holder for a cold shoe mount, like this one. www.amazon.com/dp/B073579NMB It attaches to the top of my camcorder. I set the zoom level before I start recording, and then it follows the action when I move the main camcorder around. It's not a perfect setup. I can't adjust it mid-game. But it works for letting remote people view the game in real time when they can't be there in person.
For game overview and for ease of use, I recommend the VEO setup. It gets very elevated and tracks the action on the field. It just doesn't give the ability to zoom in a lot and retain high quality video when zoomed. If that's not as important to you, then an automatic VEO setup is great. Or even using a GoPro would be good too.
Sure. The current one is a Panasonic AG-CX10. It does 4K 60fps, but the one thing I don't like is the lack of automatic ND adjustment. So it has a switch on the side that I have to pick ND Clear, ND 1/4 or darker. That means in Seattle on a day that ranges from cloudy to sunny, sometimes I can have a single game that's a bit overexposed, and a bit underexposed. The Sony AX line has a better overall 'auto' feature set in my opinion, including auto ND adjustment, but it won't do 4K 60fps, and won't record 4K at all while outputting to an LCD Monitor. Hope that helps.
@@JeremyHalbert thank you! I'm currently using my phone on a tripod. While the camera is ok. I'm looking to upgrade my recording set up. I also want to be able to upload to CZcams easily.
@@MrFony67 If you want to upload to CZcams easily, and have the easiest way to handle all the post processing, while still delivering the most info in your CZcams vids, I recommend the following…. Don’t bother with the overlays like I do. They are a lot of work. But people like to know the end score, so put that in the title or description, and in the description, follow the same format I do where you enter a time stamp, and the score, starting with 0:00 Game Start. That tells CZcams to put a bar at the bottom of the video with text, making it easy for people to jump to the goals. And to make it easy on you, start and stop the recording after each goal, then you have a single file for each goal (or just the halves if there’s no goals). I find its easiest to record the goal, and the celebration, then center the video on the kickoff area, and quickly stop and start the recording again. If you’re looking just to do a slight upgrade, I recommend a cheap tripod that can get up to 6-7 feet with a fluid video head, and get a camcorder that does 4k, at 30fps. Watch some reviews, but I think the Sony AX line does a good job. I think if you can get a 1 inch sensor, that’s going to give you the best quality, but if most games are sunny, then don’t worry about the sensor size. Set it to auto, get a mini step stool if you want (I did that for a year), and take the camera as high as you can while still enjoying the game. I went with the LCD monitor because I got tired of feeling like I couldn’t see the game because I was watching on a tiny 3 inch display. But I was able to record good videos with that setup. Ping me again if you want to discuss more. Thanks.
1drv.ms/u/s!AnypHsUZO2KLipo9KZQW2kDy1Xwbwg?e=fqvGV9 That should link to the Clock/Timer graphic. The main intro one is very specific to our team because I took a standard one and customized it with our logo and colors. I'm looking to see if I can find the original one that someone else had shared online.
Yes. I've done it before. It gives a good wide shot of the game, similar to a Trace or VEO. If you're OK with not having the ability to zoom in and get higher quality for highlight videos, then it's a good option.
Only the showcases so far, where travel costs prohibit everyone from going, and where I know I won't be able to publish the high quality video for a few days.
Just had a bad today. I was recording my brother play football in a match. My brother even scored a goal and I should have felt over the moon but then some of the opposing players’ parents start yelling at me telling me not to record. I wasn’t doing anything wrong. The referee told me to put my phone away.
I've had coaches of other teams threaten to sue me for recording, saying that their kids need to all sign waivers before anyone can record. It's crazy how many people don't understand the law. They have absolutely no right to stop you from recording.
I put the individual costs in the description. I'm not looking at it right now, but ballpark I would guess 1,000 dollars without the camera, and that's if you go with the cheaper Monitor option, not the super expensive one.
I agree! I have been able to record from the coaches side sometimes to keep the Sun behind me. When they won’t let me, I have a plexiglass panel that attaches to the top of the camera which both keeps light rain from hitting the camera, and creates a bit of shade to cover the lens if the sun isn’t too low.
That would definitely be a lot less work. The main reason I still stick with this is because with the manual zoom and higher quality 4K recording, I can get a lot better highlight videos pulled together. I'm also blessed with the fact that for some teams I record for, they also have the VEO and Trace in action, so we get a lot of footage, and the analytics that the service based systems provide.
Sir, this is really helpful. My kids play competitive and I've been recording their games and producing them for a year now. I've been using my Iphone 11... however. I wanted to find a decent 4K camera and setup - you helped me here.
I have been looking for a video like this for ages. Finally google brought me here. Thanks.
Glad I could help!
Good stuff. One additional scenario that I face quite frequently in sunny California is the sideline being filled with easy easy-ups and umbrellas. Or filming facing the sun.
I film with a couple of different setups, depending on my mood. AX53 or iPhone 14 Pro Max w/ Moment lens, remote controlled by a DJI Ronin Gimbal and Sony PS4 controller, 15ft stand. Insta360 cameras are behind the goals. All edits are done in Luma Fusion on my iPad, clock, score , slow mo replays.
This is what im talking about. I'm looking into this. Thank's for posting.
For filming into the sun, I bought a black 12x18 inch piece of plexiglass, and drilled some holes into it so that I can screw it onto a hotshoe attachment. It provides shade to the lens of the camera and allows for better video to be taken. For the umbrellas on the sidelines, if I'm able to go back far enough, it's not a big deal. But if someone has a VEO on the same side as me (which means I have to set up right on the sideline to prevent them from blocking my shot), then I just have to suffer through it.
Can you elaborate on the Ronin setup? Do you have an AX53 mounted to the Ronin, or an iphone mounted to the Ronin? How do you monitor from 15'?
I have to record my first football match, as a cameraman, in the next few days. Thank you for the very useful tips!
My pleasure! Good luck.
Thanks for your Video. I have been trying to get my Grand Son's Games at a indoor Place that has Plexiglass except at both side line a half door. So purchased a Extra Gopro to get fixed footage aimed at both ends of the field then use a Lumix G95 with a Zoom. So the Go pro's save me when they are up close and during large movements that I am forced to make. Using Davinci Resolve 18 studio to edit so it is supper easy to sync all the cams using the audio. I used to shoot basketball for Tv stations years ago and had the opportunity to be in a Box with no one to worry about. So I totally agree with distance and height. I am going to be looking forward to when my Grand Son starts playing outside.
Thanks, I'm looking forward to trying your advice!
I love this video ❤❤❤some recorded my videos and it really sucks I sent this to him and he’s learning now
I wish i could get a full time training from you. Start a great carrier in this field.
Thank you for sharing this knowledge
Thanks for the video really good for some helpful tips, I film Lacrosse with a 24ft Highmast I use a Sony AX53 that helps with the stability at that height and use a JJC wireless remote to control the zoom, I have the CX10 as well but Im dubious at having that at full height
My CX10 got some focus issues, so I bought a AG-CX350. That thing is massive. It's three times the size of the AG-CX10. I can record with it on my shoulder, without needing any sort of shoulder harness. It's insane.
Wow, I am impressed with this. Thanks, hope to se more videos!
yout video is so great , very informative , thankyou
This is awesome, thank you so much ! I did my first attempt last weekend, in the snow/hail. Your advice and suggestions are super helpful, I did some of the mistakes you mentioned.
Thanks. I was meaning to tell you, I have a spare field monitor if you want it. I can't remember if you had gotten one already or not. It's a NEEWER F100. I found it not quite bright enough on sunny days, but for most days it worked fine.
@@JeremyHalbert Thanks, ironically I ended up with 2 as well, I ordered one and they sent me two (got the same one as you). When I contacted them to ship it back, they said just keep it. I am at the about 7 foot level right now filming, will try to master that first.
What camera 🎥 did you use ? 🙏🏾
Just recorded my first game today and wish I would have watched this video prior. Thank you for the information
Share with me if you want. I'm happy to watch and give any feedback that may (or may not) be helpful.
@@JeremyHalbert czcams.com/video/zS0AMCzq0Jk/video.html
I think it went ok for the first time, I think I need to look into the software you use to show the score and also count the time. Thanks again!
Thanks
Awesome video. Answered so many questions I have as a beginner. Thank you!
Great to hear, thanks!
Great Video. I use a Hipod, but I love your setup and portability.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to realize you're a fellow Titan parent. Titan Eastside is great.
Great video, Thank you so much!!!
Merci pour vos explications ! Thibaut de france
Great video, Jeremy, thank you for posting! Did you consider - sorry if I missed from previous comments - using Veo or other tracking systems? I assume yes but you voted for the best possible quality. :) Thanks!
Yes, I considered them all, it all comes down to the video quality for me.
yeah... i see sample recordings of VEO, the video doesnt seem that great. I want a high quality video recording.
This was great, thamks.
This is a great video. I am interested in using Premiere Pro to make ease of grabbing highlights, adding things like the scoreboard, music, etc. (edit: nevermind, I see it requires a monthly subscription through Adobe). For a novice, how difficult would you say it is to use the editing software? I have a Sony AX53 which does 4k30fps but decided that the quality of 1080p is adequate as I value the 60fps. I got the Neewer 13ft light stand to use as a tripod for the camera setup, and buying a pan/tilt motor which I use via joystick. Now all I need is the video field monitor to watch the action (thinking a tablet with decent nit rating for outdoor use).
Thanks! I think Premiere Pro can be easy to use in a narrow scope of adding video, adding audio, and editing down to highlights. I'll post a video of my editing process in a few weeks which you can view as a reference. For the scoreboard, I can share the Essential Graphics file that I created if you just want to reuse it. Creating your own is a bit more work and can come with a lot of headaches. But if you're able to use mine, or find a free one to download and use, then it's pretty easy to update it in Premiere Pro for each game.
I think the setup you described would work well. Some things to focus on would be to ensure that the light stand is stable enough. I did a quick comparison of a light stand we had in the house, and it flexed quite a bit more than the setup I've settled on. Also, with the pan/tilt motor, check the speed of it. I bought a cheap one from Amazon ($90.00 USD) and used it in one game last year, but I wasn't able to keep up with the ball. Maybe if you're far back enough a slow one will work, but I found it insufficient for my needs at that time. A more expensive one probably would have been able to do better. For the field monitor, double check what the Sony AX53 can output while recording. My first attempt with my Sony AX100 failed because I found that it couldn't record in 4K and output anything to the monitor, so I had to lower my recording to 1080p. It sounds like that's your preferred format anyhow, so it may not be a concern for you.
Good luck with your setup!
Great video !
Man this is so good 👍👍
Really good video Jeremy. Well done.
As people are putting a lot on tiktok, shorts etc in portrait mode. What would be your advice on that? Record in landscape would loose a lot of video quality as you will cut out a lot of the frame later.
Since I record in 4K, I can zoom in about 200%, export it for Instagram with the standard vertical aspect ratio, and don't feel like I've lost anything on quality.
Here's one recent example. czcams.com/users/shortsLinrv_lCGBw
Last question, 😊. My camera seems to catch ALOT of parent chatter from the stadium stands. What do u recommend to help with this? I don’t want the entire video muted. As we enjoy listening to the players communicating. Reminder, I have SonyX53
I have used a notch filter before to try to dull the parent chatter, but it also impacts the coach and kids talking. Getting a directional mic to attach is probably your best bet, since it will try to eliminate audio behind and to the sides.
In post production, I put the raw audio at about 30% and I always put music in the background. Yes, you don't hear specific player/coach chats, but you eliminate the parent chatting you mention and wind buffeting. I personally feel you need current background music to keep the soccer interesting. If there is a specific conversation I want to highlight, I then manually put the raw audio up to 70% and the music down to 30%.
This is excellent!
Thanks.
Can you provide information on all of the equipment that you are using plus the costs for each? I would like to have an idea of what you paid and what exactly you are using to record soccer games. Appreciate your time on this.
czcams.com/video/7hCxcjANR-0/video.htmlfeature=shared. The second video covers all that, the links are in the description. Thanks.
Great video! Appreciate you posting this. Id like to see your future video explaining your set up more in depth ive had the same issue of not being tall enough to record & ended up buying a pan/tilt since you cant control from the ground. But i think your way might be more cheaper and faster. Also is premiere pro the same as premiere rush on mobile ive never used it but want to start uploading games with the scoreboard/time etc so the players can see themselves playing, i seen in one of your comments you wouldnt mind sharing your essential scoreboard/time file id appreciate it if you can i know it would make my life way easier on adobe since ive never edited a video before ever. Anyways glad you posted this hope you get back to me. Subscribed.
Thanks, Jose. I'll try to get the set up video completed in the next few weeks. If you could let me know which pan/tilt control you got, and whether it's fast enough to do the job, I'd appreciate it. I'm nervous about spending a bunch of money on another one if it's as slow as the $100 dollar one that I tried last summer. Adobe Premiere Pro is similar to Adobe Premeire Rush, but it's a lot more robust and powerful. I tried importing the mogrt file into Rush, but it won't accept it the way Premiere Pro does. I searched online and found that the Graphics Templates created from After Effects are only usable in Premiere Pro, not Premiere Rush. I'll share the file here anyhow, and you can try in both applications if you want. drive.google.com/file/d/1ji0opBJBv59jDiAJPLXTp2HzmazA9HUs/view?usp=sharing
@@JeremyHalbert Thanks for sharing the socerboard. I did install in my premier pro but it just showed a blank black screen. Would you mind double check your essenial scoreboard/time again. Thanks
Thanks a lot!
How did get the scoreboard? I've been looking online for one but I haven't been able to find one I can use. t
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-That's the main intro
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- That's the clock/timer that shows for the entire game.
Very Professional guy !
The post processing is very time consuming..
awesome!!! great video
Thanks!!
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Hopefully going to be Starting a new business and this really helped 👍
Edit:Also Do you recommend any cameras for low light soccer games
My older Sony FDR-AX100 has a 1 inch sensor and does better in low light. But I can't record in 4K while using a monitor with it. I would say that focusing on getting a larger sensor will give you the best chance of good low light games.
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I’ve been skimming through your CZcams channel and have enjoyed your content and I'm hoping you can help me out. I'm looking to buy a camera that can record my soccer games, but I don't have anyone to manually move the camera, so I need something that can capture the full field from a stationary position.
I was hoping you might have some recommendations for a camera that's budget-friendly and costs around $500 or less. Ideally, it should also be easy to use and have good quality video.
I'd really appreciate any advice you could give me on this. Thanks so much for your time and keep up the awesome content on your channel!
I haven't looked into the current cameras available in the last few years. But the features I would focus on would be in this order.
1. Sensor Size/Quality (GoPro 4K zoomed in is worse than my Sony with the 1 inch sensor at 1080p. More pixels doesn't always mean better quality).
2. Optical Zoom ability. A GoPro will show the full field, but for my purposes, I want to be zoomed in more than without sacrificing quality.
3. 4K - if I have the above 2, then getting more pixels is key.
at 500 dollars or less, I would probably end up going with a 1080p camera and you can balance the zoom vs picture quality as best you can. Also make sure that if you need to use it with a field monitor, some cameras can only record at lower qualities when outputting to a field monitor. My Sony recorded great in 4K, but I could only record 1080p when outputting to my monitor.
Can you record live on fb with that setup
Amazing video! Do you have 2 cameras running at the same time for different perspectives? Asking because of the apparent 2x tripod situation
I thought I answered this earlier, sorry for the late reply. I have two camera setups because I keep all my old gear, and when I upgraded my system, I had enough old components to create two. I also have two kids, and if there's conflict in their games, one of the other parents is usually willing to take my old setup and record the game for me. I don't usually record two perspectives. However, if we end up in a really awesome finals somewhere that would make highlights much more appealing to show to colleges, then I would try to get multiple angles and put in the work on the editing side to make it more professional. I just haven't tried that yet due to the amount of work it would be.
@@JeremyHalbert that makes sense, single angle for most games, simpler editing. Thank you!
Great video and very informative. I am wanting to record my field hockey games and I have a few questions. What do you think of a cannon EOS 80D camera for recording and do you have any recommendations for a camera that is less than 1000 NZD. What do you think of Microsoft ChipChamp for video editing and do you have any recommendations for free editing software. Also what is your opinion on GoPro's, how much of the field do you see and what is the quality like. Thank you very much.
Unfortunately, most of those questions are outside my area of expertise. I do know that some cameras like the EOS 80D may have a maximum video length, so if that camera is one, and if your halves are more than 30 minutes, you may need to start and stop recording partway through each half. I try to avoid that. I only really know Premiere Pro for editing, so I can't really speak to any others out there. The GoPro does a good job of getting the whole field, but I find it tough to identify who is who on the field when I've used the GoPro in the past.
@@JeremyHalbertThank you very much for replying. One last question, do you think the cannon EOS 80D has good enough recording quality.
I think it would do fine on quality, at 1080p, 60fps. But I don’t know anything about it’s ability to autofocus.
@@JeremyHalbertThank you
How does the monopod connect to the bottom tripod head? can you link the specific equipment please.
czcams.com/video/7hCxcjANR-0/video.htmlfeature=shared This video lists the general setup that I use.
Looking to do the same thing (kids soccer game). Do you recommend a full sensor mirrorless camera instead of a camcorder? Or a sports gimbal?
Camcorders can make it a lot easier for you. DSLR and other non-camcorder options sometimes have limitations on how long of a file they can record. Some cut off after 30 minutes. If you have one where that's not a problem, then you may get a better quality video out of it. But for me, the simplicity of a camcorder wins.
For a sports gimbal, I find the tripod is sufficient. But my wife did just get a gimbal for her DSLR, and it's been great to get the stable video. If I had a DSLR and wanted to just get shorter action shots of the games instead of the full game, I'd definitely go for a gimbal.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I tried the camcorder and liked it. The gimbal was more difficult likely because I tried three at once and they sort of cross circuited. For the games, I think I’m going to have two camcorders pointing in opposite directions because I find panning to be difficult. And I only ever seem to get one half of the field in the frame at one time. The thing is that I cannot see what I’m recording while I’m filming. A monitor would be helpful. So I’m on the hunt. Any gear recommendations you have would be much appreciated.
I notice these footages are in Seattle area (Redmond, Woodinville). Then I found someone just like me who loves taking soccer games. Since I wanted to record my own game, my setup is different. I found my best location is placing my Yi 4k+ behind the goal at ~15 ft high above. It won't get everything but it is an okay angle for all the attacks running up to the goal and the shots. Here is an example. czcams.com/video/20_9MgICY6E/video.html
Question, what height is the tripod for this video? It’s perfect! I agree w/u about those too high, producing lousy visibility when zooming in. Is there a camera you’d recommend at reasonable price with same quality
I think it is around 11 feet. Check the Panasonic line. The one I have is top line, but they have a full line of similar ones, just without all the bells and whistles that take the same quality video, I would look at those.
@@JeremyHalbert I’ll look at Panasonic, as u suggested. I hadn’t really considered that brand. How do u feel about Sony FDR-AX53 ? It’s only shoots 30FPS. Do u think that will produce good quality video?
What’s your opinion on the Panasonic HC-V785k? Do you think it’s a decent camera to start recording with?
As far as camera quality goes, I think it'll do just fine for 1080p, and let you get the zoom that you need. However I don't know anything about it's output capabilities to be able to record and view on a separate monitor. I had to switch from my older Sony because it wouldn't record at the highest quality while outputting video to the monitor. So that would be the main thing I'd want to confirm before buying.
What is the tripod name? How did u do it? Is it DIY?
I made a video with all the parts listed in the description here: czcams.com/video/7hCxcjANR-0/video.html
Would love to get details on your set up. Do you think a GoPro would be good enough? My brain keeps telling me I need something water resistant.
Thanks!
I should get the set up video done in a few weeks. I use a camcorder with optical zoom, because I think the GoPro with no zoom would not allow me to get good enough quality video to use in highlight clips. Especially if the action is on the far side of the field. You're right about wanting rain protection. I do have a rain cover for my camcorder, and I also created a plexiglass 12"x18" flat cover that attaches to the top of the camcorder to prevent rain from directly hitting the camera, or from getting on the lens itself.
@@JeremyHalbert thank you for the reply! I’m also very interested in your tripod choice and the parts you used to extend the panning handle.
I'll post the full list of links to the products that I've got when I post the next video, but here's a quick answer for you as well. For the pan handle extension it's SmallRig 15mm Threaded rods (16inch) (www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZFX77S), plus some 15mm clamps that I use to make sure that they don't unscrew while in use. I had to use a bit of muscle to get the first 15mm rod into the video fluid head, because it was designed to accept a rod that was slightly thinner in diameter. For the tripod, I recently bought a Geekoto 72 inch because it looked more stable (www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WVV6L7S), but honestly it doesn't seem to have a massive improvement over the shorter single tube manfrotto that I already had.
Hi I was wondering if you are offering a filming service. I want to film some of my games next season.
Sorry, no. Only if I happened to be in the area with my equipment. But this is just something I'm doing for my kids at this time.
@@JeremyHalbert oh ok thanks
How can I get my Veo 1st generation camera to get that same end result quality video you have? Should i go up a certain feet and closer to the sideline?
I don’t think it’s possible. Those use a digital zoom to capture the relevant area of the field, so the quality is already reduced. I’m using optical zoom to manually track the play, and using a camera that’s designed for higher quality recording to begin with. If VEO had an 8K camera option, it might close the gap a bit. But any automated system available today just won’t compete on the video quality. They win in other areas though, like ease of use.
Could you recommended me a cheap tripod to film soccer games please
Give me a dollar amount and I’ll give my best recommendation that will be a combination of height and stability. For me, cheap means under 200 dollars, because I know the best tripods can run into the thousands, but I don’t want to recommend one that costs 180 if you’re looking for something in the below 50 range.
Here's one that I think is inexpensive at $118.00, but good and stable. It is a bit bulkier than a single tube option though. The video head on this is good enough to get smooth pan/tilt. www.amazon.com/dp/B0784CWMP4
Hey Jeremy, I am considering recording my future soccer games for the next season. I do not have much resources for a camera or camera equipment. However, I do own probably one of the best video recording smartphone (iPhone 13 Pro Max). So my question to you as an expert would be: do you think I can record "good enough" videos with my iPhone 13 Pro Max? and also what kinda equipment would you recommend for me recording the games with my phone?
Kind Regards
I think you could get 'good enough; with the iPhone. I tried recording a game with my iPhone and did about a 1.4x zoom and put it on top of my normal setup. It wasn't as high quality, and I in my test I couldn't control the zoom, but I think it was still OK. I'm not sure about equipment to use when recording with a phone. I have seen someone do it at a game where they have a computer screen that they use to control a pan/tilt/zoom machine, but most of the time I just see people with a small tripod and a tripod to phone adapter.
@@JeremyHalbert Thank you very much for your comment. I bought one of these small tripods with like snake legs and wrapped those legs around the fence which is on the side of the pitch and about 2 meters high. Have to make it work:D
I recorded my son's high school games with an iPhone 13 Pro Max a top a 5 foot tripod always though in the stadium stands so I always get a good elevated view. Video quality is good at 1080 unless it gets too dark or stadium lighting is not good. I think I might try filming at 4K. I sit about row 10 so I am about 20 ft above the field. On a tripod, I can swivel smoothly. I have gotten pretty adept at using my 2 fingers to zoom in and out of the action. My biggest complaint is I am watching the whole game from my camera and my zooming is labor intensive.
We need more info about the camera
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if you are shooting 4k 30 the entire time, what memory card are you using? thats alot of gigs
2 ProGrade 256GB SD cards. 300MB/s Read, 250MB/s Write. It can fit several games on each card. I think around 320 minutes of recording time per card.
Hello brother, I have a question: What camera can I use to broadcast my team's matches live on CZcams or Twitter Live? to be seen in HD
The Panasonic line of camcorders that I use (cx350, cx10) do support that with NDI. You can connect via cable or Wifi to a network and stream live. I however don’t do that because I cannot record in 4k and stream at a lower bitrate 720p simultaneously. Also, the streaming from my network always seems to lag or have other network issues. So when I want to stream, I just attach my phone to the top of my camcorder and stream from the phone while recording on the main camera.
@@JeremyHalberthow do you attach your phone?
@@burski23, I use a phone holder for a cold shoe mount, like this one. www.amazon.com/dp/B073579NMB
It attaches to the top of my camcorder. I set the zoom level before I start recording, and then it follows the action when I move the main camcorder around. It's not a perfect setup. I can't adjust it mid-game. But it works for letting remote people view the game in real time when they can't be there in person.
I'm a ref looking for that higher set up. What camera would you recommend?
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For game overview and for ease of use, I recommend the VEO setup. It gets very elevated and tracks the action on the field. It just doesn't give the ability to zoom in a lot and retain high quality video when zoomed. If that's not as important to you, then an automatic VEO setup is great. Or even using a GoPro would be good too.
Please could you tell me which camera and lenses you are using
It's all in the #2 video for this series... czcams.com/video/7hCxcjANR-0/video.html
Would you mind sharing the camera you use?
Sure. The current one is a Panasonic AG-CX10. It does 4K 60fps, but the one thing I don't like is the lack of automatic ND adjustment. So it has a switch on the side that I have to pick ND Clear, ND 1/4 or darker. That means in Seattle on a day that ranges from cloudy to sunny, sometimes I can have a single game that's a bit overexposed, and a bit underexposed. The Sony AX line has a better overall 'auto' feature set in my opinion, including auto ND adjustment, but it won't do 4K 60fps, and won't record 4K at all while outputting to an LCD Monitor. Hope that helps.
@@JeremyHalbert thank you! I'm currently using my phone on a tripod. While the camera is ok. I'm looking to upgrade my recording set up. I also want to be able to upload to CZcams easily.
@@MrFony67 If you want to upload to CZcams easily, and have the easiest way to handle all the post processing, while still delivering the most info in your CZcams vids, I recommend the following…. Don’t bother with the overlays like I do. They are a lot of work. But people like to know the end score, so put that in the title or description, and in the description, follow the same format I do where you enter a time stamp, and the score, starting with 0:00 Game Start. That tells CZcams to put a bar at the bottom of the video with text, making it easy for people to jump to the goals. And to make it easy on you, start and stop the recording after each goal, then you have a single file for each goal (or just the halves if there’s no goals). I find its easiest to record the goal, and the celebration, then center the video on the kickoff area, and quickly stop and start the recording again. If you’re looking just to do a slight upgrade, I recommend a cheap tripod that can get up to 6-7 feet with a fluid video head, and get a camcorder that does 4k, at 30fps. Watch some reviews, but I think the Sony AX line does a good job. I think if you can get a 1 inch sensor, that’s going to give you the best quality, but if most games are sunny, then don’t worry about the sensor size. Set it to auto, get a mini step stool if you want (I did that for a year), and take the camera as high as you can while still enjoying the game. I went with the LCD monitor because I got tired of feeling like I couldn’t see the game because I was watching on a tiny 3 inch display. But I was able to record good videos with that setup. Ping me again if you want to discuss more. Thanks.
Do you mind sharing your photoshop/after effects files?
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That should link to the Clock/Timer graphic. The main intro one is very specific to our team because I took a standard one and customized it with our logo and colors. I'm looking to see if I can find the original one that someone else had shared online.
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There's the intro page standard one.
Would you consider recording a game with a GoPro?
Yes. I've done it before. It gives a good wide shot of the game, similar to a Trace or VEO. If you're OK with not having the ability to zoom in and get higher quality for highlight videos, then it's a good option.
Wich software you use?
Adobe Suite - Premiere, After Effects
Do you live stream them?
Only the showcases so far, where travel costs prohibit everyone from going, and where I know I won't be able to publish the high quality video for a few days.
Just had a bad today. I was recording my brother play football in a match. My brother even scored a goal and I should have felt over the moon but then some of the opposing players’ parents start yelling at me telling me not to record. I wasn’t doing anything wrong. The referee told me to put my phone away.
Dang that's tough. How can I record properly with a phone?
What rule exactly states your not allowed to record ?
@@abes9981 I am allowed to record
@@abes9981 The opposition crowd didn't know what they were talking about
I've had coaches of other teams threaten to sue me for recording, saying that their kids need to all sign waivers before anyone can record. It's crazy how many people don't understand the law. They have absolutely no right to stop you from recording.
Is there somewhere I can learn how to make highlight clips or scoreboar ?
I can't help with that unless it's specifically Adobe Premiere Pro that you're using.
Is 5 minutes in at starfire? That’s where I play
Yes it is. Good eye!
how much do you charge per game???
No charge. I just do it for my kids.
What is your camera?
Currently its a Panasonic AG-CX350
How much would the setup that your currently using cost?
I put the individual costs in the description. I'm not looking at it right now, but ballpark I would guess 1,000 dollars without the camera, and that's if you go with the cheaper Monitor option, not the super expensive one.
@@JeremyHalbert thanks
@@JeremyHalbert I would love to know the cost too especially the tripod setup
Do you use Autofocus for this?
Yes. I put the camera as much into Auto mode as possible, since it's out of my reach during the games.
What if the camera man is one of the players. AKA : ME 😅
1 more point, perhaps you tot it's implied, Location of the sun. You want the Sun behind you and not smiling into yr camera.
I agree! I have been able to record from the coaches side sometimes to keep the Sun behind me. When they won’t let me, I have a plexiglass panel that attaches to the top of the camera which both keeps light rain from hitting the camera, and creates a bit of shade to cover the lens if the sun isn’t too low.
Or just get Veo!!
That would definitely be a lot less work. The main reason I still stick with this is because with the manual zoom and higher quality 4K recording, I can get a lot better highlight videos pulled together. I'm also blessed with the fact that for some teams I record for, they also have the VEO and Trace in action, so we get a lot of footage, and the analytics that the service based systems provide.