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- More Volume For Your Broadcast Mix On a Behringer X32, Midas M32, Behringer XR, or Wing Console - #AscensionTechTuesday - EP106
The X32's Precision Limiter is a powerful tool for squeezing extra volume out of your church's livestream broadcast. This week, Chad shows us how to set it up with audio examples.
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I don't usually comment on CZcams videos. But I have found your recent videos on broadcast mixing super helpful. Thanks.
Thanks Devon!
You never disappoint! I've learned so much from watching and applying what you teach in your videos. Keep it up!
Stafford Trueheart Thanks Stafford! Really appreciate the kind words. Have a fantastic day!
-Chad
When you do that for the mix, and push compression, the peaks of the kick and snare will suddenly start to mute the vocals. For broadcast, you want to limit or compress the kick and snare on the input side, That way they do not pump the vocals, which can be brought up in the mix.
Mostly agree. Realistically, you’re probably going to have to do both haha. I agree, as much as you can, controlling the individual channels beforehand will allow you to be way more subtle at the end of the chain :)
Thanks for watching and commenting!
-Chad
Thanks for another great tutorial. One follow up question on the limiter settings. What does "squeeze" do and how should I set it? (I guess that's two questions).
Excellent. Very helpful. Very well explained. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thanks Johnny! Glad it was helpful for you :)
-Chad
Your timing is on point ,Great Video!
dwayne arthur Awesome! Glad to hear it :) Thanks for watching and commenting, Dwayne!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I will be watching all of your videos very soon. Our church just purchased a Behringer X32, coming from a Allen & Heath analog console there is a lot to learn and I will be setting it up this evening. God Blessings to you.
This may be a good one for you to start with:
m.czcams.com/video/pzDcHUSYB_A/video.html
Also:
m.czcams.com/video/Ai67lMhWFXI/video.html
Hey Chad. Two questions.
1. What does Squeeze do? What should I listen for in adjusting Squeeze?
2. You've set this up to get good strong signal during music. What do you do during the spoken bits like readings and message?
Thx. D.
In regards to question, check out this video. It shows how to boost speaking mics on your livestream.
m.czcams.com/video/9dsKZJRhY1I/video.html
Great explanation of the difference between a compressor and limiter 😁
Obi Dave Kenobe Thanks, Master Kenobe! :)
In engineering terms, what exactly does the Squeeze control do?
I'm looking for an answer regarding the Squeeze too
Thank you! This is a great resource! You mentioned a link to a separate video towards the end of this about the back end of this topic. I didn't see the link anywhere. I'm assuming that the Dynamic Compressor and the Precision Limiter will be set to POST fader? Thanks again!
Good, thank you!
Excellent tutorial! Could you provide ballpark settings on the Percision Limiter for podcasting or VO? Thanks.
Have you tried the Combinator? The attack and release can be very quick if desired.
Realistically you should be turning your house speaker levels down rather than sacrificing input gain or having to run your faders lower so you can drive your input gains more and have your faders at unity meaning you will have plenty of output coming out of the desk. I've done this at my church and it works really well.
Did you notice a improvement when using this technique? I've always tried setting all channel faders to unity, but had to keep the master down, because otherwise it would have been too loud...
@@henrikhenkel1337 yeah I run my house speakers at -20dB. Allows me to run the masters at unity
Clearer understanding of this limiter. What will squeeze parameter do and did you intend for us to hear final treatment with release all the way down. Thanks
fv3video Personally, I like the sound of the faster release. In this instance, I would opt for the release all the way down or close to it.
-Chad
@@AWTechTuesday Ok. Thanks for answer.
Hi Chad...do you mean to turn off compression and let the precision limite do the job? Thanks
Hi Chad...do I need to be post fader or prefader on FX and BUS SENDS for this set-up??? Thanks🙏🙏🙏
just tried on voc alone and amizing tell me what u think and what is the auto gain
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Am using a X32 boards and am using busses for my Livestream. Here is the problem my keyboards are plugged into the auxiliary in while all the vocals are in the line input. When the vocals are on especially on the Livestream you hardly here they keyboards unless the vocals are low
Check out this video. It should help :)
m.czcams.com/video/VPx-s5SdhEg/video.html
Hello…we just got our Mixer not too long ago…our audio voice output is very low…
I noticed you have 2 channels for the broadcasting…can you please let me know how do I set that up? And then step by step to higher our output please… thank you
Are the voices low in the house mix as well or just online?
The limiter doesn't have a way to remove the pumping of the low end? I wouldn't even consider using such a limiter. I would rather use the channel compressor and filter to only compress frequencies above 200Hz, and set it to a 2:1 or 4:1. You should use two compressors in series, and not try to do it all with one compressor (that's what sounds bad about compressors). Also, the Behringer X32 has a frequency compressor and this would be more appropriate than the brick wall. In summary, the stock channel compressor to do lite compression at 2:1 or 4:1, and this is then fed into the frequency compressor. The frequency compressor is a mastering compressor that is one of the effects you can insert on a bus.
I agree that some sort of multiband compressor before a brick wall limiter is more ideal. Unfortunately, the X32 only has one insert slot and a limited number of rack fx. If you have an open pair of matrices and an open rack slot, you can stack effects that way :)
I suggest prioritizing the Precision Limiter if you don’t have the ability to stack. Thanks for watching and commenting!
-Chad
@@AWTechTuesday Yes, that's what sucks. Right when it could be great, the drop the ball & you get short changed. I've recently come to understand that many people are having success with the multi-track USB out the X32, and processing in their DAW, outputting (slight latency) back to the X32, and achieving the same quality that you would expect from the DigiCo touring & other similar high end consoles that incorporate waves plugins. I've got a monster CPU in my laptop, and a turbo boost that may help process these plugins with little or no latency. The reality is that you are going to delay your speakers anyway for time alignment, and if you do the calcs and/or a time alignment click with a look at your wave file recordings, you can determine latency and incorporate that into the delay you put on your speakers anyway.
How should I set the attack and squeeze
Thank you so much for this tutorial. God Bless you. i am currently using matrix for live stream and it is mono, is it possible to apply precision limiter on that channel. Thank you
Absolutely.
Hi,
Thanks for your helpful videos.
I have noticed after I updated the latest firmware (4.04.1) on the X32, the fader db level is showing incorrectly. Say for example, if I set Channel 1 fader at 0 db, the LCD display shows that it is +4db on the Main tab. All the fader are showing like that. Is this a firmware issue or may be my console needs repair. It is surprising that all faders are like that. Could you please check your console and let me know
Could be a calibration thing. I’d go with what’s listed on the screen.
-Chad
Hi .do you have sample using XR 18..or it is just the same as in using the X32
Very similar - m.czcams.com/video/VPx-s5SdhEg/video.html
Great stuff been frustrated because our audio isn’t as loud as this can be and could not fix it
Thanks Auggie. Hope this will get you where you want to be :)
-Chad
How do I change the console resolution of Hz for live streaming? It’s to prevent crackles that come up during the stream.
Are you looking to change the sample rate?
sir you forgot the EQ of broadcast? how to eq please? thank you
I didn’t forget it. I don’t normally suggest EQing the broadcast bus if you can help it. If you can tune your system properly, (hopefully) you will need little to no EQ on the bus.
This video is for the X32 but the concept of leveling and EQing your speaker groups is about the same on the XR.
m.czcams.com/video/pzDcHUSYB_A/video.html
AGAIN another great video!!!!!now when it comes to gain structure i d be very grateful to give me a solution on how to convince my sound supervisor that when i get the amps volumes down ( in order to match my in &out levels is NOT wrong !!!!i have already shown him your vids but still thinks it s is wrong ......grgrgrgrrgrggrrgrgr
Stratos_Gixxer What do you mean when you say that you want to match your in/out levels?
Are you referring to guitar amps or your PA?
-Chad
@@AWTechTuesday I m referring to my PA...he doesn't agree lowering the volume on the main PA amps...
Stratos_Gixxer This would be a good video to watch in regards to getting your output gain set well. If he doesn’t agree to adjusting the amps, this video shows how you can use a matrix to attenuate your PA digitally so you can push your input gain and faders a bit more.
czcams.com/video/pzDcHUSYB_A/video.html
-Chad
Hi Chad, Thank for such a great video. When I solo my stream stereo bus, I noticed they're peaking but I do not hear distortion on the stream. Could you please help to understand what's going on?
Dany Ale Is it peaking after applying the Precision Limiter?
@@AWTechTuesday Yes Sir! Like I said, I notice it peaking when I solo the buss
Dany Ale Do you actually hear it distorting? The visual for the solo bus is mono so it may be summing the 2 signals visually.
@@AWTechTuesday Hi Chad, you may be right. I'll solo other stereo busses to see if I experience the same. Thank you so very much for your replies.
@@danielalexis9409 May also be good for you to go to the meter screen and check your levels there.
How would this compare to a limiter in OBS?
Check out this video and you can hear for yourself :)
The Precision Limiter in the X32 has more settings but they are both very effective in my opinion.
czcams.com/video/hYMjU5Lqrb0/video.html
How is your background blue?
Do you mean on the X32 screen? That’s the Dark Mode that has been out for some time now. It’s actually gray but the angle of my camera makes it look blue.
-Chad
When I do that 12db on gain input and -1.0 on output...I got lots of distortion...any solution?
Thanks
Watch your meters. I may do 12dB in this video because of my gain structure. If your mic hits red sooner, then don’t go as extreme.
Also, make sure that nothing else is boosted later on in your signal chain, such as the Bus Master, compressor make up gain (if placed after the insert point), etc...
Hi Chad...thankyou for your help...God bless you more...one more question...do I need to turn off all channel compression qhen using precision limiter on our livestream? Thank you.
@@benjdave24 if you skip to about 8:20 in the video, that is explained :)
@@AWTechTuesday Hi Chad...I sm learning much from you...thankyou so much....I manage to eliminate the distortion but my input was only 2.5db and my output was -14.5db...I think I am only getting very low boosted volume on my limiter.....on my Bus Master fo you mean not to boost anything on my equalizer or on my compression?...but I already turned off my compreesion for bus master...soryy for too many questions...I really just want to learn from you...thank you...God bless you more Chad...🙏
@@AWTechTuesday Hi Chad...I am using XR18...I don"t hsve the post or the config tab?
where can I get the x32 edit that will match with the new update?
Samuel Silverio go to Behringer.com, click downloads at the top. Search for software for the X32 and then pick the version that matches your computer.
@@AWTechTuesday they don't have the edit 4.1 in there. I have the 4.2 version on the mixer.
that's why. on the Behringer website the is not 4. nothing for the x32 edit app. some how in the iPad it connects but not on the Mac