"Everton are the WORST run club in the country" | Carra and Neville ARGUE who should replace Lampard
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Jamie Carragher believes Everton have become an 'easy touch' to play against in the Premier League and says the Toffees are the 'worst-run club in the country'.
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I'd absolutely love to see a conversation between Carra as a pundit, Carra as a player and Carra as an Everton supporter
@@KC-bg6qn no no tbf that was pretty funny but this wasn’t a good conversation to use it for 😭💀
Mad
Sky Sports Box Office, best £19.95 you'll spend.
@James schizophrenia
EX Neverton supporter - 35 years ago. Then he grew up.
MNF is more entertaining than the actual games themselves.
They should have an analysis show that reviews good games strategies. Real lack of that.
90% Carragher.
says it all about the best league in the world doesn't it! rarely watch MNF past 8pm
Not as an Arsenal fan
my thoughts exactly
Wow as an Everton fan my respect for Jamie carragher has increased tenfold. Spot on with every word he said. balanced, informed and fair analysis.
Apart from trying to defend fans
I'm a Liverpool supporter. I agreed with Carragher until near the end. Then I thought Neville was correct about finding a manager to fit the club's traditional style of play and spirit. I don't know why Carragher argued with Neville about this.
@@CaminoAircompletely agree, you hit the nail on the head there
Were have u been for last 5 yrs he always has been. He sais it how it is.
@@CaminoAir traditional style of play and thats done amazing over the yrs. We need a reset not a wake up of old ways.
Best option would be to appoint Sean Dyche, considering the longevity he gave Burnley with the lowest budget in the league then surely he’s a worthy candidate
He might not even want the job?
@@jacob4690 he would
@@madforit2 he’s said he’s wanted to take a break for a little bit tbh
@@jacob4690 waiting for the Barca job is he? 🙄 bloke stuck with Burnley for about 10 years ffs.
His style of football is painful to watch though
Carra was spot on again, its obvious to see what is happening at Everton
again ....lmfao
@theblackkidfromnorway4925 yes, again..... hardly gets anything wrong, unlike Neville and Keane lmfo
Jamie Carragher is 100% spot on in his analysis even with the bit Neville disagreed on, as an Everton fan seeing that statement from the board it was an attack on all fans when it's obviously a teeny tiny group of people who call themselves fans who would have made these threats, change at the top is imperative
Nah scousers are just violent
Carra talks sense. Never been his biggest fan but he’s spot on. Same with all these clubs who keep sacking managers and don’t get any better, Everton, Watford…. The chairmen think they should be top 6, based on some idealism to justify their investment. The reality is they won’t let the managers manage, then blame them when it goes wrong.
Carra is fantastic as a pundit. As an Arsenal fan I have a tonne of respect for him.
He is brilliant and so fair. No bs, pure football man.
It doesn't hurt that he is actually extremely intelligent and also has an excellent memory to draw on.
Very good pundit rarely ever flip flops
Yeah he has grown on me a lot last couple years. Levels above Neville.
As a united fan couldn’t agree more on Jamie’s analysis here, especially his bit about the board demonising the Everton fans and the people of Liverpool. A city which has been forever demonised by mainstream media and the board knew they could use this to their advantage
Sounding like a scouser
@@Fortnitegamer-el5oz Exemplifying my point
@@Fortnitegamer-el5ozthey didn’t report any so-called ‘threats’ to the police, the police have said that themselves. Then they released that statement 3 hours before a must win game where they knew there was a protest against them to throw the fans under the bus to deflect attention away from them. It’s textbook Bill Kenwright.
Scousers deserve to be demonised though
They are not worthy of much else
@@jackkinoff6943 😴😴😴
The statement wasn't from the Police. It was from the health and safety team at Everton. That's a big difference.
Ye there is no police report at all
Health n Safety = KARENs
Doesnt matter what the source of the statement was - if there had been a credible threat to individuals, then it was right that threat was acted upon.
@@anthonylong6403 A. The source of the statement definitely does matter B. They were advised to go - not instructed. They also conveniently released a statement about Denise being put in a headlock just before the game. Which was clearly a lie as Everton have gone very quiet since that initial statement was released. They could quite have easily made this safety message up as a way of deflecting backlash - something they’ve been doing for years. Total lack of accountability.
@@anthonylong6403 You really think Denise was in a headlock but just didn’t mention it to police?
The emotion in Jamie's voice... he isn't acting but if he were acting he'd get an oscar.
He was amazing. He was emotional af and real as he said it
He was crazy about Everton since a kid..
I remember when these two grilled Ten Hag at the start of the season after a couple games. Never have I seen that before from Sky. Yet Lampard hasn't had a bad word said against him til now. Just remember that.
Exactly 💯
So true, it’s a joke.
Think maybe because its known Everton are in deep trouble they have been going down hill for years on a decline
lol that interview was like an interrogation. disgrace from sky
Propah ingerlish manageh
Merseyside Police have stated, as Carra said, no evidence of any threats to the board have been recorded.
Wouldn't be a Gary Neville video without the infamous phrase "at this moment in time"
REMINDER: The last time Everton played a non top flight season was 1954-55. For reference Liverpool's last non top flight season was 1961-62, Manchester United's last non top flight season, 1974-75. Only Arsenal can claim a longer stay in the top flight than Everton.
69 years, of top flight football. And it's all about to come crashing down.
Correction: 1953-54
Honestly not a bad thing at this point.
To be fair, there was a period in there where Everton were in deep doo-doo but stayed up. 93/94 and then several times between 96/97 and 03/04. If you had a football management game back then, Everton always got relegated. Then again, if you were reasonable at whatever game, you could turn them around because they generated a decent amount of cash.
And Arsenal weren't even promoted to the top flight, they were voted in.
This top flight thing is nonsense Calum. Everton haven't won a trophy since 1995. Going down might be the greatest thing that happens to you. You're almost guaranteed to come back up with parachute money. Look at Norwich, Burnley, Bournemouth, Fulham
I really hope Carra has helped non-Everton fans watching to see what is really going on at the club.
100%, already thought the board was out of order, but he just showed how bad it was
Ye, coz the media really helped the rest of the country understand what was happening with us and the toon at the time too 🤦
As an Arsenal fan, I didn't realise how much the Everton fans have been going through the last couple of seasons. It's a disgrace from owners
Wait... it's just "ARGUE"? Where's the "HEATED" gone?
they only deploy the "heated" for special occasions
@@Milo_751 mainly when the person they are discussing isn't english
@@keysersoze5032 Aye farad moshiri sounds very english you whopper
Thank you Sky Sports for the Everton content. Thank you Carragher for straighening out the non truths in the media about Everton.
Carra unlocked his childhood everton fan today
Spot on about managers what's been at Everton an it's a shame to see a club like this in disarray
How Everton got Don Carlo’s number is a conspiracy theory that should be investigated.
As a Liverpool fan, I agree with every single word Jamie’s said here. It’s very sad to see a club like Everton being reduced to relegation fodder, regardless of rivalries. I saw one Everton fan saying about Bill Kenwright, “Imagine someone wants to sell you their car and then says ‘hold on mate, I want to keep the logbook’”. That club has stagnated over years, and the downfall has now come for them. Hopefully for them, they can avoid the drop but, if they do get relegated, the owners would surely have to sell up
9:52 it’s hilarious how both their voices go high pitch when they argue 😂😂
There's absolutely no way on this earth Bielsa goes to Everton. Marcelo will not work with owners who don't live up to his standards, not to mention, he's never gone to a club midway through the season like this. Bielsa has rules, he follows them and he expects others to follow them too. 1000% there's absolutely no way Bielsa goes to Everton. I've never been more sure of something in my life.
Police didn't tell the board not to go. The clubs own security did.
Do you think Everton employ some sort of secret security service? What are you talking about
@@user-dq6se6er8j Just stating the facts. If you look at the story on any of the news outlets. It states that the board were advised by their security not to attend the game. Every football club has their own security team. Nothing had been reported to Merseyside police. It was not the police who advised the board to stay away from the game.
both arguing makes me laugh. I love both of them 😂
Love it when these two go at it 😆 🤣
I’m an Everton fan and I laugh at the fact that we have come into money and end going backwards like look at Newcastle at the minute their flying . Thats Everton for you
Honestly as a non Everton fan, when I saw the statement about the Board being ordered to not attend the game due to safety threats, I can say say I was convinced it was because Everton fans were being vile and hooligans. But after listening, and seeing what’s happening to the club from the top down makes it way more obvious that the statement put out was just a way for other fans to attack evertonians. The board and owner are disgraceful and wishing Everton all the best.
💙💙💙
The situation between Everton and Man United owners are identical except that the Glazers take money out of the club, and Carra has always focused more on the United managers and even lazily commented on how the Glazer's spent money (but not investment), so poor performance is the managers fault. He's been way more fair and honest about his analysis of Everton and defensive of the fans than he has of United.
I love the fact that when these 2 argue, their voices gradually get higher n higher 🤣. Eventually the only things that will have the capacity to hear them arguing will be dogs.
At 9:55 there, the squeaky voices from Carra and Gary are absolutely hilarious 🤣
You would think they got turkeys in the studio
They need a manager to keep them up and stabilise them. Season 2023-24 consolidate (if they stay up) aim for 12-15th and build foundations. Then season 2024-25 build for top 10. Could be 2 more managers until they're back on track though.
I love that the longer Neville and Carra argue the higher their voice pitch goes
The host intervened as they were getting to the point they could only be heard by dogs.
Everton fan- carra was spot on. In touch with what is happening at the club. Unfortunately especially about the boards statement about the threat.
You can tell Carra has a love for Everton by his emotion in his voice
Everton got in touch with me - wow! That says everything! Kenwright worrying about the important stuff!
That and apologys from refs, the man's ego is out if control
To answer Carras question on teams looking for certain style of managers - Barca (possession focused), Bayern (free-flowing systems), Real Madrid (another attack focussed) save for when they had Benitez and did poorly, RB Salzburg / Leipzig. Most top top teams have a preference. I'd assume when/if Pep and Klopp leave the clubs would aim to bring in someone of similar play styles
Thank you for sharing this.
For an EX fan carra sure is passionate about Everton he still wears Everton pj's round the house
I doubt he ever stopped caring about Everton after he joined Liverpool. The man has an encyclopedic knowledge about the club.
No such thing as an ex fan for JC. He is a blue nose through and through
100% he is still an Evertonian.
That tends to happen in Liverpool, I'm a blue but I know more about Liverpool than most reds, probably due to the fact most my friends are reds and I watch the match with them alot
Spot on CARRA! Stepping up and keeping it real.
Imagine thinking Lampard is a better Manager than Benitez
Wasn’t a surprise frank would be fired , but still not the answer , he was let down by every one at the club from top to bottom, this proves how much of a disarray this club is in, bringing another manager in is just putting another target on his back unless you cut the rot out, thank you frank for your service
Carragher is absolutey spot on in this video. Our owner and board have made their position at the club untenable.
It’s not rocket science is it.
I think sky hiring these two has been the best decision made in the last 10 years of punditry. I think deep down they’re friends, but everything riles them up. Great engagement.
Everything Carragher said is correct.
I exactly remember Gary said that he didn't want Ten Hag to be the manager but preferred Porch
Most pundits wanted Porch and fans wanted Ten Hag
Who is Porch?
Jamie Carragher probably puts the milk in first when he makes his tea
He's absolutely rubbish at this punditry.
He's spot on here though
Most people do if you do it on teapot on the cooker makes no difference if put milk in 1st or last sure does not change the taste of tea
@@Kloppsserialbottlers 90% of the comments disagree with you
@@CJ-kw8vc 100% of me wouldn't really give a sh!t about that though, why would you think that matters?
I feel so sorry for Frank. He really felt the spirit of the club. But no matter who comes in it will be a tough job and the main reasons are these. One the board are treating the club as a social club not a business that should be looking to improve the Club, team, and financial health of the club. Two the crap players on the pitch. Whenever you see them play live or on the telly. There may be 2 or 3 passes and then a breakdown. Not one of them can tackle win the ball and make a successful forward pass with a goal making chance. Apart from Pickford the rest would not be sold at a profit.
I don't feel sorry for him. He should never have had the Everton or Chelsea jobs. He got those jobs because of him being "..Super Frankie Lampard.. " the player - rather than Frank Lampard the manager. He was appointed with the heart rather than with the head. Directors need to think with their head
Frank had 1 good season in the Championship and saw a disaster waiting to happen at Chelsea and jumped at it.
Had a very good first season with the kids then had the choice of low expectations preserving with the players that played so well OR 250 million to not play any of the kids with impossible expectations.
Then after that first poisoned Chalice Frank decided to 1up himself go manage Everton.
You can't feel too bad for Frank he's caused this himself.
it's not like he's in Eddie Howe's predicament where Eddie Howe is balling with Joe Willock and thus won't get any money for reinforcements lmao
Jamie, every word you said is what I've been thinking for over 1 year
Small but significant detail. they were not warned by the police not to go, it was their own security advisors
Carragher is spot on 99% of the time about Everton. He really understands the club. Lampard should never have been hired. Someone like Emery or Tuchel should've been, a proven manager who can turn crap teams into very good ones. Tuchel wanted to come in 2017 or 2014 but we never wanted him. Apparently we're trying to get Marcelino who has proven himself as a good manager.
People might disagree with you on that one pahah
@@lukeschofield574 So far anyone hasn't haha.
@@sukhdevr3489 He’s not saying anything wrong in this video so that’s why, but he’s known for his ridiculous takes
Once again Carra shows why he's the best Pundit.... Of course you'll disagree with certain things he say sometimes but the critical thinking awareness behind his analysis and thoughts every time is spot on more than when he's not!!
He’s a top pundit but took his eye off the ball with the Lisandro Martinez take. Everyone can b wrong at times sure
But I will never take him as the best pundit by a mile off.......after the Lisandro martinez take, my respect for him 📉📉📉
@@vlsui66 Everyones wrong sometimes, Carra definitely has the highest percentage of good takes of any pundit
Gary losing an argument is things you love ❤️ to see as a Arsenal fan.
One club that had a sustained plan for a period with similar managers and by their size and level had success was Swansea City
Blade here think the point about chopping changing managers and styles is spot on we went from wilder to slav (players didn't have a clue what to do anymore) back to hecky and the footballs great to watch again UTB
Sometimes 🤣 At min we are just grinding results out.
Jamie’s upset about his beloved club
this just made me more embarrased to be a season ticket holder at Everton , its that obvious how inept our board is
as a chelsea fan, i feel better
As a Liverpool fan, I feel A LOT better
Until when we play them in two weeks when we start up their season
Hiring big time managers as an almost big club can go badly , sometimes having a moyes type manager can give you long term stability as big managers will always have heads turned
I beg your pardon? "Hiring big time managers as an almost big club can go badly." I think we need a little more clarification on that one. An almost big Club? I beg your pardon?
@@31cify lmao of course Everton is a small club
@@tzfunchannel It'll never be a small Club. It's one of the biggest and the best. It's just not run by the right people.
@@tzfunchannel It obviously isn't.
@@31cify I mean it's won a lot and it's one of the most sucsessful ever but if Moyes can come into your club and be like "oh this isn't too hard to manage" then in this context at least it's not a big club
whatever happens my respect for everton fans has increased tenfold over these last couple of seasons. Used to be my clubs 'bogey team', and a lot of rival fans are happy to see them near relegation and their struggles, but as a neutral, the way fans backed the team at the end of last season (and frank this season) i have found admirable. the opposite of how NU fans acted towards Steve Bruce. cue the hate, but I wish everton luck with whoever comes in
Think the Birmingham board with our half broken stadium - Points deductions - unknown owner being investigated and constant sacking of managers - as well as numerous relegation battles (with most days just staying up on the last day) could give Everton a run for there money 😂
Your situation is pretty shocking. As a Villa fan I almost feel sorry for you. Almost 😉
SOTC
See there was loads of gold and Sullivan out posters at West ham but (well up until last season) I was in dream land.
They’re spot on, both of them
Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville are talking sense! And more so in this case the former because he is more familiar with the subject.
And yes, the Everton fans are the most passionate there are! 🤗
Arsenal went from Wenger to Emery lol completely different managers then went full circle back in terms of playing style to Arteta, clubs can't always pick a certain type of manager especially mid season - other factors are how big of a club are they, what type of situation they're in that needs addressing, how big of a job is it
The nostalgic Everton with Pienaar, Arteta, Cahill etc are the ones we all as PL fans miss, it's actually sad seeing them spiral like this, maybe it'd be a good thing for them to get relegated so they can clear out deadwood, hopefully be sold and start from scratch, sometimes teams need that fresh start just look at Fulham this season as an example, couldn't stay up more than two seasons in the Prem, went down, managed to keep a majority of their squad, built a rapport and a bond then came back stronger than ever
Can’t wait to go there next season
👏 well said Jamie! As an Everton fan of 40 years he is bang on! I was at that Everton game v Southampton with my 7 and 10 year old kids.... there was no threats and at no point did I feel threatened. People in the city like, Jamie, know absolutely that the threat was complete nonsense... who 'ordered them not to go? Merseyside police have said nothing was reported to them so we know it wasn't them... I have the up most respect for Bill Kenwright, I was there when he saved us from the knightmare of Peter Johnson, but come Bill, Denise... you know what the right thing to do is.
I couldn’t imagine a worse managerial appointment right now than Bielsa.
I agree. Kamikaze football is not a good idea when your back is up against the wall. It might be good to watch, but is likely to end badly.
Gary neville
Neville Neville
Steve Bruce
Or a more Everton one to make
Arsenal have set the new blueprint. Owner - Sporting Director - Manager. That's it! Three men running the club, one runs the team, one controls th in's and out's and one sanctions the clubs purchases and finances. If those three are totally in harmony the club will go forward as Arsenal have shown.
In Germany Standard Look at Bayern and Leipzig
Liverpool did that before Arsenal though.
I'm Villa and love them but I appreciate Everton is a juggernaut of a club that should never be at the bottom of the league.
I feel bad for Lampard. He's still learning to be a manager, but nobody wins without strikers on the roster.
Derby were a high end championship team at the time, Everton are a premier league mainstay and Chelsea are one of the biggest clubs in world football. He’s been handed 3 major jobs undeservedly based on what he achieved as a player. Why would anyone feel sorry for him? He’s stolen a living the last few years
Learning?😂😂it's been 3years he failed at derby Chelsea and now Everton he wont get another top job
@Marcos G that level of banter belongs right next to Everton in the relegation zone.
@@mikeydoc11 exactly. When you think how few former Black players get opportunities I have know sympathy for Frank who got more than enough chances at big clubs just for his playing career and he clearly isn’t good. Football is now about high IQ coaches not players with great careers.
@@liamefc97 did he really fail at derby he reached a playoff final then jumped ship
Everton are run terribly but they are not the worst run team in the country
Birmingham City ex owner is in jail, their current owners hardly communicate with the fans, received several points deductions, constant relegation battles in the Championship and some parts of the stadium are not safe to use.
Scunthorpe have gone from a Championship club to bottom 4 of the 5th tier (National league)
Southend gone from League 1 to National League
Crawley owners get their money through NFTs, having to deny rumours about players and staff, on their 3rd manager of the season, Matthew Etherington their former manager left after a couple of games, they are just above the relegation zone in league 2.
That club can summed by retiring a freaking teenagers (Jude Bellingham) shirt.
Franks still a legend and will allways be loved by chelsea
Frank's a city legend
I can attest to this, even in the communication and running of the youth teams.
Fair comment Jamie.
Don’t think they realise that Scunthorpe and Southend exist
What? Everton has standards and history not a tinpot club mate like those
Well considering the riches that the Premier League offers and Everton’s longevity then they should be much more equipped towards managing money - they might not be the worst but they’re one of the worst run clubs in England
Scunthorpe and Southend ? I’d hardly call them clubs .
Well said it reminds me of United fans saying the glazers are the worst owners in football whilst Bury went out of business. Prem fans are deluded and think Prem is all that matters
@@jacob4690 yeah Prem fans are simpletons
Long may it continue !!!
Love a good argument between pundits, great passion.
is it safe to say when neville ran Valencia, it was the worst club in Spain?
No. Deportivo are
Everton remind me of the final few seasons of Sunderland in the premier league
Aston Villa also in 14, 15 and 16.
Yes, Very similar to Sunderland & Villa and potentially Newcastle the fans knew it was coming and it was only a matter of time before the teams went down. Villa and Newcastle managed to rebuild, except Sunderland (lol) who really made a mess of their steadying season in the Championship.
Very much so. Everything about Sunderland, my team, was atrocious for most of the last (10-year) stint in the Premier League. So here we are, 6 years on from relegation and several administration near misses, and only now is the club coming back to life. There's a long, long way to get back. Everton are on the brink.
As an Everton fan I completely agree. We’re going to be financially crippled when we go down as well. Successive relegations is a real possibility for us. We’re currently losing about 100m per year and set to lose about half our revenue when we go down, with a new stadium to pay for.
Well said Jamie 👏
quality debate with Carra and Neville
So fed up of these two.
Neither of them could manage or run a club successfully, sick of hearing em both to be honest myself.
Groundhog Day Everton
Still amazes me to this day how Everton got Ancelotti
It’s like two babies squeaking at each other because they’ve not been fed
The way their voices get high when they argue with each other is hilarious 🤣🤣
Jamie carragher the Everton fan born n bred.
Champions league winner with Liverpool 🏆 🥇
And now he's a Liverpool fan. So what?
He's on the verge of tears the entire time. He's definitely still a fan
We need a Monday night football on a podcast! I love it but can’t always catch it because it’s so late on at night and clips aren’t as good as the whole shabam
Spot on from Carragher.Everton FC have pulled a Sun Newspaper on their own fans.The last thing you do in the city of Liverpool.
Carragher never praises Newcastle United
Let them win something first
@@geoffdean2372 NUFC trophy drought...now 54 years and counting...but hey...you never know !!
Gerrard should take the Everton job 😇
I agree. Top banter
Respect to Jamie for this as an everton fan
You can feel the passion and emotion in Carra's voice. He is still an Everton fan of heart I believe. It hurts him personally to see the club in this state. Respect for everything he said - He is right
Wow Koeman has a 1.6 points per game record. That's not bad. Why was he sacked?
He did do well in his 1st season. The 2nd season was awful though and that plus getting knocked out of the EL was enough to get sacked.
His last game was against an Arsenal team who put 5 past Everton at home, we won our first out of four away games in the league that season
Everton need a relegation to steady their ship and decide what they are actually going to do. Its helped many a team before but need to ensure they can bounce back within 2 seasons. Look at Villa, Newcastle, West Ham who went down and able to come back up quickly or they end up doing a Sunderland who still cant get back or Leeds who it took nearly 15+ years to get back.
Relegation also very likely brings an end to Moshiri's reign and most of their Board of Directors would step down.
I'm an Everton fan and from a football perspective like purely on the pitch maybe but the FFP and finance perspective relegation would be a disaster, Moshiri won't sell until the stadium is built so he can get his money back and I guarantee these players will not have relegation clauses in their contracts and some of our players are on stupid money
Ppl who think relegation would help Everton or any club need a head wobble. Cutting your funds and losing your best players doesn’t help anyone.
@@geoffdean2372 I agree overall its bad for any club but like what I mean from a football perspective it would allow a complete reset which is what we need but yes that should be in the Premier League because relegation particularly for a club that spends like Everton would be a disaster
Relegation never does steady the ship lol it makes it longer
Love it when GN voice goes up 😂
Both of them are right tbh. It makes no sense for a club to go from Koeman to Allardyce to Ancelotti to Benitez then Lampard. It's just complete mixed messaging for the players. Top clubs always choose similar managers even if the style and tactics are different for e.g. Bayern, Ajax, Barcelona, Madrid, Dortmund.
A touch dramatic boys
Well it ain't, for the size of the club Everton is ridiculously low on the scale of performance. That all comes down to the management of the team