Knox Mtn Hillclimb 2023 - Entrance Corner How To
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Knox Mountain Hill Climb- Entrance and exit corner analysis #knoxmtnhillclimb #kelowna #Entrancecorner #exitcorner #howto #RiderTraining
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What I'd give to have roads like that near by! Ontario roads are crap! lol
I watched the whole video & I appreciate what you are saying about the line through the corner. But as someone who has raced both motorcycles & cars I can assure your the line for each would be much different for that corner. On a bike is how you described because the ability to accelerate on corner exit due to power to weight & size of vehicle. Bikes are more point & shoot into & out of slow corners. Cars require a later turn in to achieve a later apex but are on throttle as soon as the car is rotated enough to get to the late apex helping them achieve higher speeds through the high speed section that follows the hairpin you were at.
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I fully appreciate what you're trying to say. And normally the tight line would be the way to go however turn three at Knox mountain is a unique corner unto itself. If you take the tight line as you suggest there is a hole that you have to climb out of. It's interesting that you critique two of the veteran drivers on the hill the alpha driven by Fred Del perro and the mini driven by Larry Sandham. These guys have been running the hill for 40 years. The fast line thru turn three is to stay a little wider thru the middle of the turn.
@@MIKEANDTHEMECHANICS cheers. However are any of these vets actually professionals or just amateur racers aka weekend warriors a couple times a year?
i think the reason most drivers late apex is to get a better exit speed, for circuit driving this line would make sense but a mountain road such as knox needs your lines to be tight. the best way to take that hairpin would to late apex but to late apex within that inside line to keep your distance as small as possible while angling the car to be on the throttle as early as possible.
Thx for chiming in. If I was on ny Superbike id be hitting 200kmph (4th gear) before hard braking (while dropping 2 or 3 gears) from outside to inside in a straight- line for this "entrance corner" continuing to trail- brake into the late apex as mentioned in video. Try to hold a tight line and try to stand the bike up as soon as possible getting on the gas from 1st to 2nd and into the subsequent 2nd gear corners to maybe 3rd before the hard left up ahead with curbing.
@@irnieracing ah i think of it from driving perspective where its more about rotation to get on the throttle earlier in a car while still covering the oleast amount of distance.
@@SecretHashiriya it's an entrance corner which everyone in this class messed up. Simple as that. This is not a switchback to a longer straight-away. And even if it was an exit corner, everyone blew the corner anywho
@@irnieracing you can still get a good exit with a good entrance lol, banking on a fast entrance for a slow exit isnt good practice imo. touge 101
@@SecretHashiriya that would be a neutral corner. Let me simplify. If they are running the outside braking zone straight and run deep past or wide of apex. Fail. From the deep "L" line it would only be "just ok" if it was an "L" corner working for a exot corner to a huge straight. Going extra distance past the corner, adding extra time to achieve a better exit, but no wait. It's not a L corner. It's a "U" switch back.
Holding a tight line I usually pick the inside rear and can’t put the power down out of the corner. Diff opens up, and it’s a mess. Wider line is the lesser of two evils. Does the diff ever open up on your bike? Lol
Dam I miss the days of V8 power on the hill. Almost all rice burners now
I went to this event about 10 years ago. I find it sad they do not allow motorcycles at that event!
I am curious as to who owns that green Mini(I might know him)
A decade ago I contacted the organizer and offered to do a superbike demo to add to the Knox Hillclimb spectatorship show, and was told they "only have insurance for 4 wheels" lol. True or being dismissed? The knox Hillclimb has never been much of a spectator event, but more a hilclimb autocross for the most runs possible for local drivers to dabble in.
The inside line is too steep for most cars. Causes them to 3 wheel. Also the corners after the hair pin are flat out so you want to get a good run out of there. My car would barely make that corner if I entered from the right hand side. Gotta open it up as much as possible.
4:30 was thinking exactly the same. Seems that most are just coming in too hot to hit it right. *The inside has most favorable bank angle* as well.
Is that a Lada car in screen shot
I believe it is a Datsun 510
@@lakaiskates8064 yeah I found out in the live I commented here before the live chat🤦
Amazing how 100's of race licensed drivers with credentials from Autocross, roadracing , and indycar have done this corner all wrong all these years based on your keen eye . I think you had better drive this hill before giving out advice . No way you can maintain momentum with your line on this particular , dip at apex, tight corner. You would almost park it to a crawl at apex to avoid hitting the gate post on exit with your line.
The racers in the class I filmed we're all amateurs with one race a year. If you can't see the wide line loosing time with extra distance and time, and everyone with a terrible exit late gear drop... So be it. The first fwd and blue corvette looked the hit the apex in beginning
@@irnieracingno they weren’t. Hahah. There are definitely some lines that are too wide there. But the tight line isn’t fast. I’ve tried it multiple ways over the last decade. My solo2 timer doesn’t lie.
Come run the hill and try it out.
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These guys have been doing this s**t for years, dont be trying to put your 2 cents in on your first time watching the hillclimb bud. imo if you come in tight breaking to the inside of hairpin, you are gona exit super wide and scrub a bunch of speed upon exit, they swing out wide on entry so they can keep the line tight into the next corner. But what do I know...😂
I'd say half the competitors only race this Hillclimb once per year, and don't Race anything else. No practice besides autocross. I'm you watched the racers go up, you would have seen the right lines
Yeah no doubt, they only hold the event once a year............... iv been watching the event for 10 years now and seen it from many angles on each corner. Considering that 90% of the field take the same line I would probably trust someone who does it. There are drivers from all over north America, not "just locals", get a car and prove em all wrong my dude😂
The key to this corner is left lane placement. And cut it inside of the corner and shoot out to the left side of the upper road... So you can transition to right lane placement for the next corner.... And cut left again
You mean outside- inside- outside. 😉