Exactly. Some of these videos are just to garner a collaboration of hate and mistrust. Tenants in general can tear up your property. Obviously these landlords who consistantly have foul renters are not a good judge of character if this happens every time probably because they are solely focused on credit score, work status or outward appearance, maybe?
@@anonymousprivet1227 That is because most landlords are clueless wombats.,. All they have to do is ask the local police or sheriff first how to do a local background check. They have tips and a program to help with that. Want to go national, FBI, want to go global, see if I did something overseas? Interpol are the people who help them with that, now your background check is done! FREE OF CHARGE. I know a few landlords who did that, no trouble with tenants at all. Oh one more thing , after the background check, landlords even know if I was in psychiatric care. How about that?
All my section 8 tenants left my properties spotless, it was the college kids with co-signers that often left my properties a mess. My tenants on section 8 also saved me during Covid because a lot of my other tenants had to get out of their leases for loss of school, or job because of the pandemic.
As someone who lives in a college town, I know this allll too well lol. Anytime I have been in a house that college students have stayed in, they were damaged. It makes me sad because they are great houses, too. It's a shame.
@Jenna I’m so glad you said this because as a Section8 tenant it’s hard to find a place because of the stigma attached to being on Section8 we get landlords who are scared to rent to us on the basis that another tenant did them wrong I always ask that a perspective landlord please come to my current rental to see how I live because you can’t hide filth if you’re trying to perpetrate something I lived in my unit 17yrs and the next 12yrs and now current place 4yrs so let’s see if I have to move but I did have a charge on my unit of 17yrs it was $20 for 1 kitchen tile because I put my fridge back too soon on a new tile floor and it got squished but I replaced it with another tile but that’s it and mind you I raised 7 children and I never had a hole in any wall or tore up blinds or a broken window all of my places were clean very spotless and no roaches,rats are anything else and my walls weren’t nasty because when my kids did something wrong one of their punishments were me handing them a bucket filled with pine Sol are other stuff and rags and tell them to get to cleaning walls etc and hey I’m sure kids wouldn’t say no to cleaning up that’s was a very less stressful punishment to do.
First of all. Section 8 tenants are to be checked out thoroughly just like any other perspective open market tenant. I feel like the landlords are wanting 2020 money for a 1980s unit. I worked in Housing and I've seen more greed from the Landlords but most tenants get a bad rap. There's good and bad tenants just like there's good and bad landlords.
The landlords want 2020 money because no matter how old the house is our taxes still go up. I have a few units that are over 70 years old and I pay over 2000 dollars just in school taxes alone for one unit. That doesn't account for borough,property, county. Just a little bit of a different perspective is all
@@frankenfaq4706 l understand that but if you want the highest rent Section 8 can pay for a unit, at least do a few updates. Believe me, landlords definitely are not losing any money on these units nor should they. It's a business. I turned down many landlord rent increases that were above the annual increase. because they were no way reasonable according to their condition for the rent they were requesting. There are guidelines we all needed to follow.
@@dcg590 how is that a handout? Damn do you even know how the Section8 program works that was very judgemental really, but you know reading the comments I knew someone like you wasn’t too far behind in saying what you said Wow!!!!
@@idaleksarivera765 you are not getting a handout and evidently you’re doing what you’re supposed to be doing so don’t even pay that person with the negativity let them stew in their own misery you can tell they’re lonely!!!!
@@dcg590 I wished I did... the government take so much from families everyday. We have a little left over for our hard slavery. Insurance companies grocery stores doctors pharmaceutical everyone get a bigger pice of our own pie than we do! Smh!
My dad & I do property management, and we take section 8. Once a tenant moves out, we do a walk-through together, and compare it to the one that was done when they moved in. There are things that are expected, like wear & tear, nail holes in the wall from hanging a picture, etc. We are required by law to provide an itemized statement of the deductions taken from their deposit, and return it within 2 weeks. So, we have had clean tenants, and some really nasty ones. So, it's the person, because they either care or don't care. Just because they are on section 8 doesn't mean a damn thing. It boils down to having pride and keeping your place clean, or if you want to like like a pig in your own filth. That has nothing to do with section 8. That's the choice of the tenant.
I rented three rooms in my private home to a family … two sisters and daughter. They were pigs ! They destroyed my home ! Brought an infestation of roaches and mice. So I kicked the whole lot out four weeks ago!
I'm so glad you showed this because people need to see that being NASTY is not exclusive to lower economic status! Wealthy people destroy properties too, and they often don't pay what they owe. Also, many working families don't earn a living wage and need rent assistance but most are not negligent, bad people! We need to stop shaming people for being poor! Thank you!
No such thing as a living wage. You are paid what the job is worth, not because of your personal life. Don't have children you can't pay for, it is not other people's job to make up the difference.
My mom raised us with the attitude that just because you are poor, doesn't mean you have to "look" poor. We grew up poor but my mom made sure our homes looked nice and were clean. She had pretty high standards in that regard.
@@saran3214 You do realize there are people who don’t have children who don’t make a living wage, right? Are you not aware of the difficulty in finding affordable housing that is happening nationwide?
I believe most people have good intentions. Our section 8 tenant, left early and her cousin broke in and trashed the place.. our non section 8 tenant left the place in worse condition. I actually liked the section 8 process. Rent was always on time!
Jesus Christ my mother I'm trying to convince her to run out to anyone and everyone and videos in general making it seem like you can even title a situation as if they're a different breathing others device if they should or not as if they're not human this is crazy you all should be banned from CZcams even speaking about the situation as if section 8 tenants are not normal human Americans that go through things my cousin is on section 8 and she is a insurance salesman and nothing would be better than someone to relieve you of the stress because she has no father in her child's life that she lost so much and it doesn't have to be personal and is not your business as long as they're paying you your rent why are you isolating and making them as if they are a different breed of renters if the renter is good they're good if a renter is bad they're bad you're making it harder for people with housing to find properties that are amazing just because you are scared typically acting like it is a thing how dare you lawyers doctors anyone I don't care who you are financial advisors can apply for housing there's no difference they're all normal human beings trying to make it in life and the only reason why people are bent off about it is because they have to pay the full price and they don't get over yourself there's a rule in housing once you you financially are stable they take you off or they pursue for you to own your own home stop making these stereotypical things about housing people so they can survive and live in peace instead of living in a box like a slavery camp because they can't find normal houses to live in without everybody in their mama having the same issues as them
Not necessarily. I’ve had section 8 and I took care of the place. The landlord on the other hand ducted tape everything. I had to fix with my own money to keep the place right. So when it comes down to it, it depends on the person. It has nothing to do with section 8 . Because you could have bad landlords and bad tenants.
Not always the tenant had a friend who moved in a building on sex 8 within 5 months mold was on the ceiling in the place and she complained she said the owner did nothing so she took it to the people who got her section 8 sadly when it went to court he also had other violations and building codes which was deeply sad he never gave back deposits either i felt really bad for her and never went for section 8 But i do agree it be the people and sometimes the owners and landlords
I was on Section 8 for close to 20 years, raising my kids as a single mom. I so appreciate the help front Section 8. When I was on Section 8 I kept my single story spotless clean, dishes washed, floor swept and mopped, beds made up, windows washed. We did all repairs, cause the owner lived in another state, we did all the yard maintenance, front and backyard. So I wanna say It's the kind of person you rent to, it's not just all Section 8 tenant's that have a bad reputation. Do your background checks, before you rent.
As a landlord I appreciate your comment. I have the worse section 8 tenants on earth. Horrific. Is good to know there are folks like you who care about where they live. Thank you.
I am almost 70 and I'm on Section 8 in Sr housing..my place is spotless ..We have inspections every 3 months.. fail 3 and you are terminated..that should be the case with any tennents..it's protects everyone..
Typically it's expected to do a sweep/mop/vacuum, dispose of all garbage and ensure any holes are repaired. If they expect anything more than that they are delusional. This is why dated pictures or videos are a MUST before you move in and after all your stuff is moved out.
One tried that on me, I wasn't going...Me & my daughter did good work & she took pics...Had the maintenance man call her while I was there to say it was excellent...She still tried, but my man had his lawyer on deck give her a call, quickly gave it back...She was mad we were leaving...Some landlords dnt appreciate good tenants either, works both ways...lol
Oh another thing...She had 3 families who got her on paying rent for about 3 yrs...Thought she was gonna get money back thru me!..Sorry not happening!..lol
No, you’re taking money you didn’t earn. You’re not a tenant, you’re a drain on tax payers who don’t get any help because they didn’t screw their life up. Sec 8 is a joke. You should get 5 years at the most period.
From my past experience with dealing with Section 8 tenants in the rental market over the last 10 years they are no different than non-section 8 tenants. Everyone should be treated the same way and screened the same way regardless from my landlord prospective. I know 2 states Colorado and Nevada that passed a law that you can't discriminate against section 8, unemployment income, and etc from renting from them. The thing that I love about my section 8 tenants is its gauntied rent money especially during the Covid virus Pandemic too. So I strongly recommend section 8 tenants myself as a landlord. I run everyone the same way regardless.
Thank you so much for doing this I waited five long years as a single parent low income to get into housing!!! Only to find out nobody wanted to rent to section 8 HUD. I have never been so careful immaculate when I moved out of one in my life!!! God bless you guys!!! I will share I hope you do more of these this is great
Well, I'm just trying to do my best in sharing the truth. I love my section 8 tenants, but the get a bad reputation and it's my obligation to correct it. Thnx for watching
@@dcg590 what’s that supposed to mean? My mother was a single mother. My father was MURDERED which made her a single mother..and yes,they were married. Shit happens lady…but I’m sure your perfect?
I lived in a section 8 apt. for 7 years. When I was moving, the manager came for the walk-through she said it was going to be the easiest turn over they've ever done. Not all people with section 8 tear up the property.
Overall, the tenant seems to have left the place in great shape, hopefully, he will get some of his deposit back given you only have to do normal upkeep & cleaning.
Well, they broke the lease w/o notice. But it does look like they had respect for the good landlord with the condition they left thr place in. One landlord even gave me a $75 bonus when I moved out because if the good condition. He said he could rent it for more because of the care I took.
For a landlord, Section 8 may be good but I have personally had to move out of 2 different neighborhoods because of Section 8 families literally destroying them with bad behavior. Throwing trash everywhere, having tons of shady people visiting all times of the day and night, playing basketball in the middle of the street at 2AM, constant altercations with residents and on and on. I finally moved into a Section 8 free neighborhood. Way more money but worth it for the piece of mind.
Thank you so much for this video. It’s always assumed that section 8 participants are destructive, when in fact that’s far from the truth. There are many participants that work very hard to maintain a roof over our heads and we can’t afford nor do we want them live in inhabitable conditions. Granted there are some who choose otherwise, but in most cases they are usually terminated for violating the rules in which we are held by. Hopefully this stereotype will change for those who do there best to be respectful to the landlords that are willing to provide housing.
Nice, I hope its helping to add more good inventory to the lists as theres a huge waiting list in my towm... I wonder how much of an impact we're having?
Im 52 been out on my own since i was 17 im on Sec8 im planning on leaving my apt cleaning it up and giving them there keys every body dont tear up apartments
i had tenants about 14 section 8 tenants for a average of 5 - 10 years some moved but to a bigger house or get there own house on programs that section 8 offers. all left them in good condition because section 8 do a after moving inspection and if its bad they lose their certificate and the rent money so no problems. i always check there they lived before and do a drive by and not take their landlord alone because if they bad they want them out now and will say anything to get them gone.
Housing Authorities section 8 is a federal government program for the elderly and the very low income people. Section 8 pays 80% of the rent, and before the tenants move in there is state inspection before the tenant moves in ,there Is a deposit and first month's rent. The program requires an annual inspection, the landlord have to meet those requirements, if not the contract is terminated. It the landlord to make all necessary repairs in the house or apartment. So is the place broken is because the landlord didn't meet up to it obligation, and the renters has to move out.
I just hate how people complain about living in a bad neighborhood move into a section 8 home in a good neighborhood then destroy everything. You can take people out of the ghetto but not the ghetto out of people!
I've had the worse luck with section 8 neighbors. They were horrible neighbors, they trashed my neighbors house and were nasty. The house was brand new when they moved in. Felt so bad for the owner. It would be great if everyone were like these tenants.
Oh my I had a horrible experience in the early 2000s . Be very strict with these tenants because Section 8 will fight against the land lord for these tenants . It’s sad because when a good section 8 tenants come the bad ones have ruined it.
Yep, seen other videos where bad apples ruin a place for any reason and make section 8 decent renters look bad so those who rent a place think twice if to accept section 8 anytime. section has rules for renters to keep all working order nytime they check a place. so if something not right or u wanna add new maybe then ask if ok to do so and they help do what they can at time. i mean renters may even add new so can show a bonus to place cause u not gotta add updates any by chance. i mean if u getting help with rent , then u can atleast keep tabs and add what u allowed to be like upgrading a house in ways.
I had to leave the suburbs because I can't find ANYONE that takes section 8 in that town. As soon as they hear section 8, they turn me away. Having section 8 has been a gift and a curse.
You know, this is exactly why I do these videos so peeps can see the GOOD side of section 8, I love my section 8 tenants as they're some great people. I find we often get treated how we treat others....
I lived in Section 8 for many years, with 5 children and a full time working husband, and when we moved (lived in one house for 11 years). When I moved out I left a new refrigerator, new stove, gently used washer and dryer, and 4 window AC units. That was in 2012...it’s 2020 and the new renters are still using all of the appliances I left! :) I left that house in spotless condition
You cannot blame it on Section 8 it’s an individual person who chooses to live like that. I am on Section 8 and have been for many years and whenever I’ve moved my place was always immaculate when I left
I am a contractor. In Columbus Ohio. For section 8 with 2 clients with around 260 properties. If I only had to fix that move out I would be good. We have way more nasty tenants leaving house destroyed. .
I'm on section 8 and I'm not the type that beats up the apartments I've actually left my apartment it's nice and clean and every landlord that I had said thank you
Two questions. How long did he live there? Did he have children? Observation, it’s a man, men usually are better to a house than women with children. Another observation. $1050?! That’s high for that home. Section 8 can be a gold mine. You’re getting paid by the government. What’s the problem with putting 5k into a section 8 property someone didn’t care for? Especially when you’re over charging for a house. We both know no one in that area pays $1050 for mortgage or non section 8 rent. Repairs are repairs for anyone with the mindset that feels owning those properties are bad investments. We all know that there are tons landlords that don’t put the energy in those types of properties. They just get it to code; an almost three decade old code. For the record this is not a gripe or rant, just something I FEEL I should say.
I'm a single Mom who works part time. I'm also a Section 8 Tenant and I have taken very good care of all of my Landlord's properties. Thank you Mr. Mark Shylk and other good Landlords for understanding and providing housing to Section 8 participants who need affordable decent housing.
I've been in my same complex 5 years brand new built from the ground up I'm on Section 8 best way to know how I'm living is to FaceTime or to get it right from the horse's mouth and that would be my landlord I treat my place like I own it
New subscriber. Love your content! Love your style. Thank you for sharing your experiences and your colleagues. You're helping investors and people in need of affordable housing I'm a small scale Private Pay (PP) landlord for 20 years and I will be transitioning to section 8. Thanks again for sharing! Also, thanks to Marc. You guys are great!!!
Oh I also thank you for being a spokesperson on our behalf, not everyone on Section 8 tear people property up, I never destroy anyones property, I always felt and treated the place like it was my own, ever thankful and grateful to be blessed with such a nice affordable place, thank you again. God Bless
I know, I never understood that. Why is it that people don't speak more about the truth. I love my section 8 family. Their some of the best people you'd want to meet. They're simply looking to be treated with dignity and respect, pretty much just like any human.
Dang it guys. I was about to go off on your "click baited" title of a video. Then I smiled. It's so nice to see some positive reviews. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Here is why. As a single mother of 2, I have been a section 8 tenant for 12 years. Just moved into our 3rd section 8 unit one month ago and I have already spent close to $500 in paint and minor repairs/upgrades. With my landlords approval of course. And plenty of before and after pictures. He will be able to rent his place for even more when I move out because I increased the value of the property at zero expense of him. I did this to the last place I lived at for 10 years and the place before that, I lived for 5 years. My first section 8 landlord loved me so much that he paid me to get my apt ready (minor repairs/paint)for the new tenants. And he allowed me to stay in the apartment while I did the painting, etc because I gave him 60 days. Recently, the owners of a condo we were renting decided to sell and not being able to afford the purchase we were only given 30 days to move. 30 DAYS!?!?! I WENT into panic mode. Because sect 8 tenants ALMOST ALWAYS get a bad rap, I was worried we wouldn't find a place to move that we could afford to live in. especially with only 30 days to do so. So I definitely agree with the 60 days notice. Here's why. Because 30 days was not enough time for me to find a place. I had to rent the largest storage unit I could find to move a 3 bedroom condo into. Which cost me $400. For one month. Plus uhaul rental 2 TIMES (4/5 DAY RENTALS because we didn't have much help moving, no one wants to help move in July) and the inconvenience of having to move everything we own 4 frigging times in one month. When if given 60 days notice we could have avoided all that extra work and my savings account wouldn't be suffering because of it. It was damn near impossible to find a rental in a decent area that wasn't crawling with "UG'S" (bedbugs, thugs and drugs). Fortunately, everything worked out and God sent his angels and we are very happy with our new place. And thanks to great guys like these who know that you shouldn't stereo type. You have an equal chance of renting to bad renters regardless of status quo. Do extensive back ground checks. Talk to their previous landlords. Call those numbers on their apps. But don't only call those numbers. Verify them, make sure the person you are speaking to is actually the owner of that rental and not just someone pretending to be an old landlord.
As a property manager of a complex that does not lease to Section 8 tenants, I can tell you that it's mostly the type of people receiving the assistance. I've had plenty of non Section 8 residents completely trash the apartments and townhouses we lease, before moving out, to the point that the unit is very nearly completely renovated just to get it ready to lease again. People have no idea the amount of money that goes into that process, and they wonder why everyone's rent continues to increase.
Wow, that is not bad. I've seen worst. Also, landlords will cover up things. Do patch work and it don't last long. That fold door I hate because it may work when you move in, open it 5 times and off the hinge. My house I'm in they patched it up and now roof ceiling leaks, house settling BAD so doors stick, floors not leveled. And, BUGS OMG! So, of course landlord taking all year to fix. Oh, and my rent up to date and I HAVE FIXED THINGS TOO. So, there are some good tenants out here.
I know a girl who lived on section 8 and she ruined her apartment then called and reported her landlord for bad living conditions, he then stopped getting paid and had to clean her place. The reason it was unhealthy to live in was her.
I managed section 8 tenants for three years in Tampa years ago. Most of them didn’t clean that well and we had cockroach problems no matter how much pest control sprayed. Probably needed a better product. The standard apartment lease with the national apartment association now has a 60 day notice you have to give. I only had one section 8 property that got torn up every night. I don’t think it was the tenants it was just a bad neighborhood. I begged for security or cameras or something but the owners said no. This was in the 1980s so cameras weren’t common at all.
I manage rentals and I would be so happy if section 8 would leave my property like that. Because my apartments have all been trashed so I don't take section 8 any longer.
This tenant was far in between come to MI guaranteed the move out results would be different 😃😃😃 but hats off to the tenant showing appreciation to someone else's hardwork ....I was in the newspaper for being a good tenant when I was renting in the 2009 recession and I left my rental better than what it looked like when I moved in 😃😃😃😃 I eventually bought a home
I am on section 8 I been living in the same place for 14 years 🙏 I take it care of it like it was my own and my landlord was shocked 😳 that I shampoo my carpet once a month lol
It’s so nice how y’all are calling renters “section 8.” Not everyone on it is going to damage your property. And the amount the government pays is guaranteed monthly income.
I did section eight. Only issues some did not have income at all. The rent was 1200. They had tp pay like 60 to 80 dollars. Then the water bill would go thru the roof. So decide fair market vaule. Now i renting 1600 a month. Cash floor is 900 a month. Advise to all raise the rent 5 to 10 percent a year and add coin laundry 2 bucket a wash to help with water bill.
SECTION 8 GOES ON INCOME. THEY'LL PAY ALMOST ALL IF THEY SEE THE TENANT CANNOT PAY AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON # OF PEOPLE IN HOUSEHOLD JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FED PROG, SORRY 4 CAPS NOT SHOUTING
Thee best way to handle a water bill situation is establish a reasonable liveable limit within the lease. Anything above that limit is tenant portion. Section 8 does allow tenant and land owners or agents to negotiate leases as long as the main requirements are observed.
I currently have a Section 8 tenant. This house is clean compared to what a Sec8 tenant has left mine and what it currently looks like. Just an FYI if you have a Sec8 tenant damage your home you can have them removed from the program. Happy renting!
Hi my name is Valentina and I just got on section 8 in March. I'm a single mother of six kids and I have been applying for many houses in Elk Grove. I haven't had any success in getting approved. I think that it's not fair that people like us on section 8 aren't given a chance to be able to rent a place called home. It's so hard and I wish at least one landlord will give me a chance to prove that me and my kids take good care of the things we have and that we are very clean and responsible. Not every one on section 8 are bad and irresponsible. Please give us a opportunity to show y'all.
And Ive lost rentals on section 8 after sticking up for my rights against sub standard units or sexual HARRASSMENT by one landlord that got me evicted even though I never was late on rent and took excellent care of the property and did not violate and rules .I just SAID NO and lost my rental . Even after I made many improvements for my landlord ( with approval first of course ) and got burned by the landlord so for as many bad tenants there are there is an equal number of BAD LANDLORDS
I've lived in section 8 property and my apt looked as good as when I started. If they don't let you check it regularly or call for repairs then you should question the inside.
I'd love to do more of it but you'd be shocked to see how hard it is to actually DO business, plus record all this stuff AND make it interesting. But i'll take a note to do more of this....
I have had section 8 for 15 years after siting on a 3 year wait list. I'm an excellent housekeeper and I pay all my bills on time. Always And yes finding a landlord to accept my voucher is next to impossible. I had to extend my 60 day search twice and only found A slumlord at the very last minute before my voucher expired
I had a section 8 tenant I asked her to leave,her boyfriend caused a scene and the police showed up,after they were gone people they knew moved in and turned my building into a trap house,I evicted 1st and 2nd floor at the same time and within a few weeks I was getting death threats by a gang of them.
It’s sucks cause as someone who grew up on section 8, it’s always the bad tenants and landlords that everyone thinks about. Not about the landlords that actually care and fix the properties, and not the messy tenants that make a bad name for poor families.
Unfortunately, some give all a bad name. Poor doesn't mean nasty. I know rich people that keep their houses like something off of Hoarders. At the end of the day, people are people, regardless of income. Thanks for renting trough Section 8.
I personally think that there has to be more smart landlords and home owners, that put out the positive reasons to rent out property to section 8 tenant's. This country is in the middle of a recession, and all of these new investors, banking corporations and ect are buying apartment complexes and home's, and they're remodeling and renovating them all, and they are all doing away with accepting section 8 anymore. And they're jacking up the rent and mortgages as well as kicking out tenants who have lived in the properties for years. Meanwhile people are ether losing their jobs, or quitting their jobs. And the one sure thing that these property owners don't seem to get is... When you have section 8 tenant's whether they lose a job or not the rent still gets paid . And if someone is on disability (SS#) and their benefits are interrupted, or stopped for some reason, then the tenants pay zero and section 8 pays for it all. I just don't get it, and apparently the corporations don't get it either. For sure I see them being stuck with all of these different properties vacant in about five years or less.
Some of the section 8 tenants leave the place tore the F up. They make people on section 8 look bad. Some people do right. They keep there places clean and clean when they leave. Section 8 should tell there applicants if you leave a place tore up then you lose your section 8. Bottom line
Please don't bash all section 8s. Sobriety is more a factor. I am section 8 and contribute to my management and neighbors. For example, cleaning, painting and picking up trash outside. I am grateful for affordable housing, and contribute to improvements for free. Everybody benefits.
Hate how people don't appreciate what they have, they make it bad for the people who really need section 8. Good tenants suffer and have a hard time gaining access to section 8 properties because of the "bad apples".
Or, places wont accpt section 8 help cause they think the renters gonna trash cause past events or what told and reason any. so not all section 8 renters do wrong.
I can see how some can be a pain to deal with for any reason. while others call if need to at time for any reason. it better to work with manager who is around to fix any then to be a hassle and cause them to wanna kick u out for any reason. section 8 not bad it just theo who get it cause hassles for those who rent places and then think twice doing it anymore cause others make it seem a pain sometimes.
@Gerrylynn Mako Seen videos and some or many have left cali cause the hassles they making now, so to do what u gotta works for u then cool. this pandemic has really made those who do real estate anytime now rethink on starting it or doing it still anytime now. we all do what we gotta do for any reason. i cant wait to move out of cali cause the hassles and all. but guessing things may not get any better if the gov keeps bsing and not doing for any reason.
What the f*** does you leaving your property have to do with people getting help that are from DV poor homes or otherwise have to do with them leaving their home in poor conditions or not there are millionaire CZcamsrs millionaire actors that leave their apartments in shambles why are you categoring leaving an apartment in poor condition to people that get assistant from the f****** government I can't with you people I can't with you people every individual is different rent out to people that are responsible and is not against the law nor is it necessary for you to make a video to make it hard as f*** for people to find places to live because you suit fit to think that you're mad because you have to pay a full price for something and they don't this is discrimination as best in one day it will be noticed I am flagging the f*** out of this video it is so disgusting how you treat these people
I just got on housing...I'm 70...I keep my apt spotless...my landlord never took it..until I rented his Dump and turned it into a beautiful place to live...so all people are not Destructive...and yes I am blessed to have a landlord who appreciate what I have done for his property and that I got on housing...
people hardly speak on the levels of sanitation of a home owner because they have the privacy of not having a property owner come in and see the hoard or filth. You would be surprised at the nasty homes of people who make a 6-figure incomes. I've gone to homes of people who work paycheck to paycheck and they are a clean freak and homes always spotless. Its the person- not the income level
Most of us are very respectful of everything. We might just be suffering from depression, anxiety, both etc etc. One thing I wish is for landlords would pick more cheerful colours for walls, can’t u paint them like a dusty rose or a hint of yellow, all doors should be white.
I live in nice apartments that started out great...about a year after moving in I got section 8 neighbors...I have been miserable ever since...NOISE!!! TRASH!!! GHETTO ATTITUDES!!!! Moving in 2 weeks!!
You had bad luck. I'm not ghetto nor am I loud. But I did fall ill after working all my life until I was classified disabled. And, I'm not nasty. Seems you just got bad neighbors.
@@_smurfitude YOU are an exception...or at least you would be in the south...these girls are young strong and ABLE...they have new cars lots of kids and smoke weed on a regular..people who TRULY need help I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with living next to...THAT is what the program was designed for!!!
I lived in an apartment that wasn't on section 8, and was going thru inspection for the apartment to be section 8, landlord agree to go thru inspection but the apartment above me left tub running and water was dripping into my apartment, instead of him fixing the hole in the ceiling, he told me to put my silk tree in the kitchen to hide it he had a whole month b4 the inspection, God blessed me with getting into a program to buy a home, now have brought two homes and will be building for the first time, ladies there so much out there for you to get ahead, when I brought my first house my mortgage was cheaper than my rent, look into all the programs out there not just section 8, your city have so much to give you to get started on your own, I was a single mother of 4 each one of my kids has brought their own home by 30 years old, you can have your own. Its out there for you, start with your city.
I was on Section 8 for awhile, NEVER trashed or damaged anything & I moved every year til I found the right place for my daughters’ & school district! Stayed in the last place for about 3yrs til I moved in with my boyfriend & let the next family take advantage of this life-saving project! It truly came at my deepest time after a 2yr waiting list! The homes had your normal wear & tear, my kids never drew on the walls either! Can’t stand to see that 🙄
Don't be too quick to say that this was the best condition ever. Check the last part of the video and you will see when the camera passes a room there is at least 1 hole in the wall. Its at the end.
It's very hard here ⁴for people who have Section 8 housing vouchers to find housing. Generally once they get housing, they tend to take care of it. Some Section 8 tenants are required to pass annual inspections to see how well they keep their places. Please consider renting to Section 8 tenants.
Honestly, no person or entity should be allowed to own more than 1 rental property. Each rental house or condo destroys the dream of ownership for another person, family, or retiree. Enterpreneurs are gobbling up ALL of the SMALL starter and retirement housing options. It disgusts me. Why can't "investors" UNDERSTAND they are KILLING the American DREAM?
I lived in a section 8 complex for 10 years…I raised my son their while I went to college…I left the unit in immaculate condition when I moved out…gratitude was the reason
Well, I think it all depends on where ur property is located. I have gotten rents higher than market and in other cities they pay below, so it all depends.
@@krishaskins The HUD contract is what is required through section-8. My question is that can the tenant be required to sign an additional contract from the landlord in addition to the HUD contract. Such as the rent being higher than what HUD is willing to pay. Also issues such as repairs that the tenant must make by their own expense, by a pre selected handyman, or else be refused a renewal offer once the HUD contract expires. Kris, I am tired of having the repair expense extend past the damage deposit after the tenant leaves. HUD only recognizes a $500.00 damage deposit.
@@aimeekreutzer-malkawi Thank you for the reply, but your answer is a non answer. Does hud (federal program) allow for a separate agreements to be made with the tenant, as a consequence of participating into the section 8 program?
I’ve worked in property management for years, no section 8, and not a single tenant ever left their unit in this tip top shape as the section 8 tenant left this place! This unit is immaculate; I’d prly move in as a tenant as is, lol
My experience with section8 has been terrible. All they did not steal they left the unwanted items behind. Took me three months to get rid of the roaches. Going to try it just one more time hoping for better.
Ok, sounds like we may need to do a more thorough job w the screening of the tenant, a roach infested house won't happen over night and that tenant shouldn't have gotten through ur screening process, I'd like to see what ur screening process looks like. That tenant was probably dirty b4 they moved in ur place, what do u think?
@@krishaskins I agree. It was my first tenant period. A senior raising her grands, had pass thief history, church goer, figured how could I go wrong. She was the worse. Folks living in the basement, (not on lease ). Section8 seem to have supported her all the way. Currently been waiting over 28 days for RFTA., that’s after the last one bailed after 40days and decided she didn’t want to move. This program needs a lot of overhaul.
Ugh..they turned housing that was originally for veterans into section 8 housing near my residential neighborhood.. Funny how they have no money to pay rent, but have money for Heineken, fireworks, weed smoking, professional DJ's and elaborate parties! 🤔 Infuriating!!
@@CHRISTINE162004 - you don't know the half of it. In L.A., they are tearing down single unit houses and building 2-story, multi-family Section 8 dwellings. Doubles or triples foot and vehicle traffic each time one is built and filled up with people. No one knows anyone in the community, old folks are unfamiliar with new neighbors, cars blocking driveways, birthday parties with jumpers every weekend... It's not the street I great up on anymore.
My wife and I own 11 rental properties. I can tell you from our experiences and the wisdom we've learned from it . These two are bottom feeders. My wife and I decided when we got into investing in rental properties to not ever become "slum lords" . You have to decide what type of investor you want to be. Do you want to be a "buy here pay here" kind of landlord or do you want to be a moral upstanding one? To use the car dealer analogy again. These two are the type of landlords that will put 90 weight gear oil in a car that is worn out to keep it from smoking and sell it as a clean ,low miles auto! We have two properties that we purchased from these types and what we found while renovating them was atrocious! We could tell that the properties were just worn out ,not from tenant abuse but from years and years of band aid ,cheaply done repairs. These two purposely buy the cheapest properties they can and purposely rent out to the lowest denominator and then cry fowl when it falls apart. Can you make money doing this way? Of course you can! Question is , do you really want to be one of these guys?
I don't destroy property, and I have a voucher. It's discriminatory to classify all Section 8 tenants as destructive! Many seniors and disabled are on this program, and we have to pass inspections! I do not like you, nor would I ever rent from you! Some of what you said caused this reaction!
@James Smythe Troll, not everyone who gets a voucher has had 'handouts' all their lives. You don't even know me or my lifepath and u sound like the fool u are
They do here in Cincinnati. There are 16 houses in my neighborhood that are uninhabitable now. And slighted for demolition. All where section 8...10 years ago these houses where all nice.
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I lived in section 8 for 9 months, going through a separation in marriage . I kept my little duplex spotless. It’s the individual not the section 8.
Exactly. Some of these videos are just to garner a collaboration of hate and mistrust. Tenants in general can tear up your property. Obviously these landlords who consistantly have foul renters are not a good judge of character if this happens every time probably because they are solely focused on credit score, work status or outward appearance, maybe?
Exactly
@@anonymousprivet1227 That is because most landlords are clueless wombats.,. All they have to do is ask the local police or sheriff first how to do a local background check. They have tips and a program to help with that. Want to go national, FBI, want to go global, see if I did something overseas? Interpol are the people who help them with that, now your background check is done! FREE OF CHARGE. I know a few landlords who did that, no trouble with tenants at all. Oh one more thing , after the background check, landlords even know if I was in psychiatric care. How about that?
Exactly
Yeah me too & I waited 5 years to get that help including 4 months being homeless!
All my section 8 tenants left my properties spotless, it was the college kids with co-signers that often left my properties a mess. My tenants on section 8 also saved me during Covid because a lot of my other tenants had to get out of their leases for loss of school, or job because of the pandemic.
You don’t have to just be on section 8 to fuck someone property up
Well you had some unicorns.
As someone who lives in a college town, I know this allll too well lol. Anytime I have been in a house that college students have stayed in, they were damaged. It makes me sad because they are great houses, too. It's a shame.
Exactly 💯
@Jenna I’m so glad you said this because as a Section8 tenant it’s hard to find a place because of the stigma attached to being on Section8 we get landlords who are scared to rent to us on the basis that another tenant did them wrong I always ask that a perspective landlord please come to my current rental to see how I live because you can’t hide filth if you’re trying to perpetrate something I lived in my unit 17yrs and the next 12yrs and now current place 4yrs so let’s see if I have to move but I did have a charge on my unit of 17yrs it was $20 for 1 kitchen tile because I put my fridge back too soon on a new tile floor and it got squished but I replaced it with another tile but that’s it and mind you I raised 7 children and I never had a hole in any wall or tore up blinds or a broken window all of my places were clean very spotless and no roaches,rats are anything else and my walls weren’t nasty because when my kids did something wrong one of their punishments were me handing them a bucket filled with pine Sol are other stuff and rags and tell them to get to cleaning walls etc and hey I’m sure kids wouldn’t say no to cleaning up that’s was a very less stressful punishment to do.
First of all. Section 8 tenants are to be checked out thoroughly just like any other perspective open market tenant. I feel like the landlords are wanting 2020 money for a 1980s unit. I worked in Housing and I've seen more greed from the Landlords but most tenants get a bad rap. There's good and bad tenants just like there's good and bad landlords.
Simply amazing comment.
Periodt.....
Exactly! I said this as well!
The landlords want 2020 money because no matter how old the house is our taxes still go up. I have a few units that are over 70 years old and I pay over 2000 dollars just in school taxes alone for one unit. That doesn't account for borough,property, county. Just a little bit of a different perspective is all
@@frankenfaq4706 l understand that but if you want the highest rent Section 8 can pay for a unit, at least do a few updates. Believe me, landlords definitely are not losing any money on these units nor should they. It's a business. I turned down many landlord rent increases that were above the annual increase. because they were no way reasonable according to their condition for the rent they were requesting. There are guidelines we all needed to follow.
Thank you, for showing and proving that not all section 8 renters, destroy properties.
True I been living in my sec8 apt for 4yrs already nd my apt it's the same way when I move in..
@@idaleksarivera765 still getting the handouts after 4 years?
@@dcg590 how is that a handout? Damn do you even know how the Section8 program works that was very judgemental really, but you know reading the comments I knew someone like you wasn’t too far behind in saying what you said Wow!!!!
@@idaleksarivera765 you are not getting a handout and evidently you’re doing what you’re supposed to be doing so don’t even pay that person with the negativity let them stew in their own misery you can tell they’re lonely!!!!
@@dcg590 I wished I did... the government take so much from families everyday. We have a little left over for our hard slavery. Insurance companies grocery stores doctors pharmaceutical everyone get a bigger pice of our own pie than we do! Smh!
Your tenant left the place IMMACULATE! BETTER THAN MOST LANDLORDS DO WHEN THEY GIVE YOU THE KEYS!
I agree 💯👍
My dad & I do property management, and we take section 8. Once a tenant moves out, we do a walk-through together, and compare it to the one that was done when they moved in. There are things that are expected, like wear & tear, nail holes in the wall from hanging a picture, etc. We are required by law to provide an itemized statement of the deductions taken from their deposit, and return it within 2 weeks. So, we have had clean tenants, and some really nasty ones. So, it's the person, because they either care or don't care. Just because they are on section 8 doesn't mean a damn thing. It boils down to having pride and keeping your place clean, or if you want to like like a pig in your own filth. That has nothing to do with section 8. That's the choice of the tenant.
Good points, I think the general landlord public just doesnt know this.
Thank you.
I had tenants who wanted to live in their own filth!
I rented three rooms in my private home to a family … two sisters and daughter. They were pigs ! They destroyed my home ! Brought an infestation of roaches and mice. So I kicked the whole lot out four weeks ago!
A- f-ing -men!
Thanks for showing section 8 tenants in a positive light.
Yeah put them where you don't live and seem like a wholesome person. Ha Ha
@@wileecoyote5749 please Elaborate?
I'm so glad you showed this because people need to see that being NASTY is not exclusive to lower economic status! Wealthy people destroy properties too, and they often don't pay what they owe. Also, many working families don't earn a living wage and need rent assistance but most are not negligent, bad people! We need to stop shaming people for being poor! Thank you!
No such thing as a living wage. You are paid what the job is worth, not because of your personal life. Don't have children you can't pay for, it is not other people's job to make up the difference.
thank you
My mom raised us with the attitude that just because you are poor, doesn't mean you have to "look" poor. We grew up poor but my mom made sure our homes looked nice and were clean. She had pretty high standards in that regard.
Amen Too That This Is So The Truth. However Not Many people are going to agree unfortunately.
@@saran3214 You do realize there are people who don’t have children who don’t make a living wage, right? Are you not aware of the difficulty in finding affordable housing that is happening nationwide?
I believe most people have good intentions. Our section 8 tenant, left early and her cousin broke in and trashed the place.. our non section 8 tenant left the place in worse condition. I actually liked the section 8 process. Rent was always on time!
Jesus Christ my mother I'm trying to convince her to run out to anyone and everyone and videos in general making it seem like you can even title a situation as if they're a different breathing others device if they should or not as if they're not human this is crazy you all should be banned from CZcams even speaking about the situation as if section 8 tenants are not normal human Americans that go through things my cousin is on section 8 and she is a insurance salesman and nothing would be better than someone to relieve you of the stress because she has no father in her child's life that she lost so much and it doesn't have to be personal and is not your business as long as they're paying you your rent why are you isolating and making them as if they are a different breed of renters if the renter is good they're good if a renter is bad they're bad you're making it harder for people with housing to find properties that are amazing just because you are scared typically acting like it is a thing how dare you lawyers doctors anyone I don't care who you are financial advisors can apply for housing there's no difference they're all normal human beings trying to make it in life and the only reason why people are bent off about it is because they have to pay the full price and they don't get over yourself there's a rule in housing once you you financially are stable they take you off or they pursue for you to own your own home stop making these stereotypical things about housing people so they can survive and live in peace instead of living in a box like a slavery camp because they can't find normal houses to live in without everybody in their mama having the same issues as them
@@laurent1163 P.U.N.C.T.U.A.T.E 😳 good gosh that was horrible to try to decipher...wtf
@@laurent1163 where the hell did you go to school? Did you not learn to use punctuation? 🤦
That was atrocious!
@@staycool163 beef with text to talk not me LOL
@@laurent1163 do you not know how to go back and reread it and edit? 🤷
Not necessarily. I’ve had section 8 and I took care of the place. The landlord on the other hand ducted tape everything. I had to fix with my own money to keep the place right. So when it comes down to it, it depends on the person. It has nothing to do with section 8 . Because you could have bad landlords and bad tenants.
Not always the tenant had a friend who moved in a building on sex 8 within 5 months mold was on the ceiling in the place and she complained she said the owner did nothing so she took it to the people who got her section 8 sadly when it went to court he also had other violations and building codes which was deeply sad he never gave back deposits either i felt really bad for her and never went for section 8 But i do agree it be the people and sometimes the owners and landlords
I was on Section 8 for close to 20 years, raising my kids as a single mom. I so appreciate the help front Section 8. When I was on Section 8 I kept my single story spotless clean, dishes washed, floor swept and mopped, beds made up, windows washed. We did all repairs, cause the owner lived in another state, we did all the yard maintenance, front and backyard. So I wanna say It's the kind of person you rent to, it's not just all Section 8 tenant's that have a bad reputation. Do your background checks, before you rent.
20 years.... damn
u were on section 8 20 years + what the real moochers
As a landlord I appreciate your comment. I have the worse section 8 tenants on earth. Horrific. Is good to know there are folks like you who care about where they live. Thank you.
I am almost 70 and I'm on Section 8 in Sr housing..my place is spotless ..We have inspections every 3 months.. fail 3 and you are terminated..that should be the case with any tennents..it's protects everyone..
I do too,, 55 plus. But here they do NOT evict. It's unreal hard on the rest of us.
THEY LEFT THAT PROPERTY CLEAN. WHAT THE HELL WAS HE EXSPECTING?
They find any little thing to keep the deposit. I don't clean spotless when I move anymore. No matter what they keep the deposit now
Typically it's expected to do a sweep/mop/vacuum, dispose of all garbage and ensure any holes are repaired. If they expect anything more than that they are delusional. This is why dated pictures or videos are a MUST before you move in and after all your stuff is moved out.
Nothing but true your right. it is a struggle.i gave up trying to get it back. Money can be a B
One tried that on me, I wasn't going...Me & my daughter did good work & she took pics...Had the maintenance man call her while I was there to say it was excellent...She still tried, but my man had his lawyer on deck give her a call, quickly gave it back...She was mad we were leaving...Some landlords dnt appreciate good tenants either, works both ways...lol
Oh another thing...She had 3 families who got her on paying rent for about 3 yrs...Thought she was gonna get money back thru me!..Sorry not happening!..lol
Tell people to stop calling us section 8 we are tenants
The only reason I say it, is so peeps will understand the category...
No, you’re taking money you didn’t earn. You’re not a tenant, you’re a drain on tax payers who don’t get any help because they didn’t screw their life up. Sec 8 is a joke. You should get 5 years at the most period.
From my past experience with dealing with Section 8 tenants in the rental market over the last 10 years they are no different than non-section 8 tenants. Everyone should be treated the same way and screened the same way regardless from my landlord prospective. I know 2 states Colorado and Nevada that passed a law that you can't discriminate against section 8, unemployment income, and etc from renting from them. The thing that I love about my section 8 tenants is its gauntied rent money especially during the Covid virus Pandemic too. So I strongly recommend section 8 tenants myself as a landlord. I run everyone the same way regardless.
Yes, I love my section 8 tenants. They're the best
Thank you so much for doing this I waited five long years as a single parent low income to get into housing!!! Only to find out nobody wanted to rent to section 8 HUD. I have never been so careful immaculate when I moved out of one in my life!!! God bless you guys!!! I will share I hope you do more of these this is great
Well, I'm just trying to do my best in sharing the truth. I love my section 8 tenants, but the get a bad reputation and it's my obligation to correct it. Thnx for watching
Single mother. Shocker.
@@dcg590 what’s that supposed to mean? My mother was a single mother. My father was MURDERED which made her a single mother..and yes,they were married. Shit happens lady…but I’m sure your perfect?
@@krishaskins lol no your wrong for this video , you one of those black people that think your ... never mind
I lived in a section 8 apt. for 7 years. When I was moving, the manager came for the walk-through she said it was going to be the easiest turn over they've ever done. Not all people with section 8 tear up the property.
Overall, the tenant seems to have left the place in great shape, hopefully, he will get some of his deposit back given you only have to do normal upkeep & cleaning.
Well, they broke the lease w/o notice. But it does look like they had respect for the good landlord with the condition they left thr place in. One landlord even gave me a $75 bonus when I moved out because if the good condition. He said he could rent it for more because of the care I took.
He is wanting money for the upgrades he should have done obviously 🙄
They probably lost their voucher if they broke the lease without permission.
I saw nothing that was wrecked just that closet door really the guy should get majority of his deposit back
For a landlord, Section 8 may be good but I have personally had to move out of 2 different neighborhoods because of Section 8 families literally destroying them with bad behavior. Throwing trash everywhere, having tons of shady people visiting all times of the day and night, playing basketball in the middle of the street at 2AM, constant altercations with residents and on and on. I finally moved into a Section 8 free neighborhood. Way more money but worth it for the piece of mind.
Section 8, means a guarantee payment!!!
Thank you so much for this video. It’s always assumed that section 8 participants are destructive, when in fact that’s far from the truth. There are many participants that work very hard to maintain a roof over our heads and we can’t afford nor do we want them live in inhabitable conditions. Granted there are some who choose otherwise, but in most cases they are usually terminated for violating the rules in which we are held by. Hopefully this stereotype will change for those who do there best to be respectful to the landlords that are willing to provide housing.
Nice, I hope its helping to add more good inventory to the lists as theres a huge waiting list in my towm... I wonder how much of an impact we're having?
Im 52 been out on my own since i was 17 im on Sec8 im planning on leaving my apt cleaning it up and giving them there keys every body dont tear up apartments
i had tenants about 14 section 8 tenants for a average of 5 - 10 years some moved but to a bigger house or get there own house on programs that section 8 offers. all left them in good condition because section 8 do a after moving inspection and if its bad they lose their certificate and the rent money so no problems. i always check there they lived before and do a drive by and not take their landlord alone because if they bad they want them out now and will say anything to get them gone.
No one sec should have a house. Ever
Housing Authorities section 8 is a federal government program for the elderly and the very low income people. Section 8 pays 80% of the rent, and before the tenants move in there is state inspection before the tenant moves in ,there Is a deposit and first month's rent. The program requires an annual inspection, the landlord have to meet those requirements, if not the contract is terminated. It the landlord to make all necessary repairs in the house or apartment. So is the place broken is because the landlord didn't meet up to it obligation, and the renters has to move out.
I just hate how people complain about living in a bad neighborhood move into a section 8 home in a good neighborhood then destroy everything. You can take people out of the ghetto but not the ghetto out of people!
I agree 👍 💯 🙆♂️ 👏 👌
I've had the worse luck with section 8 neighbors. They were horrible neighbors, they trashed my neighbors house and were nasty. The house was brand new when they moved in. Felt so bad for the owner. It would be great if everyone were like these tenants.
Oh my I had a horrible experience in the early 2000s . Be very strict with these tenants because Section 8 will fight against the land lord for these tenants . It’s sad because when a good section 8 tenants come the bad ones have ruined it.
Yep, seen other videos where bad apples ruin a place for any reason and make section 8 decent renters look bad so those who rent a place think twice if to accept section 8 anytime. section has rules for renters to keep all working order nytime they check a place. so if something not right or u wanna add new maybe then ask if ok to do so and they help do what they can at time. i mean renters may even add new so can show a bonus to place cause u not gotta add updates any by chance. i mean if u getting help with rent , then u can atleast keep tabs and add what u allowed to be like upgrading a house in ways.
Any renter can be bad though just as owners. Plenty of places are bad and run down in any aspect. It just depends on the people period
When section 8 accuses you of knowing your property was abandoned by their tenants and ask you for 9 months rent. Let’s chat 💬💕💕💕
wow, that's a beast
@@nadiabenjamin8989 Can you explain what happens if the tenant mess up the landlords place ?
I had to leave the suburbs because I can't find ANYONE that takes section 8 in that town. As soon as they hear section 8, they turn me away. Having section 8 has been a gift and a curse.
You know, this is exactly why I do these videos so peeps can see the GOOD side of section 8, I love my section 8 tenants as they're some great people. I find we often get treated how we treat others....
I lived in Section 8 for many years, with 5 children and a full time working husband, and when we moved (lived in one house for 11 years).
When I moved out I left a new refrigerator, new stove, gently used washer and dryer, and 4 window AC units.
That was in 2012...it’s 2020 and the new renters are still using all of the appliances I left! :)
I left that house in spotless condition
Now that's a great story to hear, this need to be noted that u we t above and beyond. No doubt you've had a good life because of ur giving!
You cannot blame it on Section 8 it’s an individual person who chooses to live like that. I am on Section 8 and have been for many years and whenever I’ve moved my place was always immaculate when I left
It's a great program. But 98 % of these ppl are trouble makers. I will never accept a Section8 tenant into my house again. Never ever AGAIN!!
Wow Kris that property is super clean. He had a great tenant!
Except for the fact that they split
I am a contractor. In Columbus Ohio. For section 8 with 2 clients with around 260 properties. If I only had to fix that move out I would be good. We have way more nasty tenants leaving house destroyed. .
I'm on section 8 and I'm not the type that beats up the apartments I've actually left my apartment it's nice and clean and every landlord that I had said thank you
Two questions. How long did he live there? Did he have children? Observation, it’s a man, men usually are better to a house than women with children. Another observation. $1050?! That’s high for that home. Section 8 can be a gold mine. You’re getting paid by the government. What’s the problem with putting 5k into a section 8 property someone didn’t care for? Especially when you’re over charging for a house. We both know no one in that area pays $1050 for mortgage or non section 8 rent. Repairs are repairs for anyone with the mindset that feels owning those properties are bad investments. We all know that there are tons landlords that don’t put the energy in those types of properties. They just get it to code; an almost three decade old code. For the record this is not a gripe or rant, just something I FEEL I should say.
100% RIGHT
He said utilities was included in the $1050 but that’s still seem high to me.
@@tinaturnerforpresident5918 no lie, I didn't even hear that.
All utilities included...fyi. Efficient lighting & water heater allows the landlord to do this package deal! Good move.
I didn’t know you could do that. That is smart. And at one point those were tax write offs.
I'm a single Mom who works part time. I'm also a Section 8 Tenant and I have taken very good care of all of my Landlord's properties. Thank you Mr. Mark Shylk and other good Landlords for understanding and providing housing to Section 8 participants who need affordable decent housing.
There u go, we love our section 8 tenants, it's all about the person
I've been in my same complex 5 years brand new built from the ground up I'm on Section 8 best way to know how I'm living is to FaceTime or to get it right from the horse's mouth and that would be my landlord I treat my place like I own it
1050.00 a month for that little shack??!!! What city is this???
New subscriber. Love your content! Love your style. Thank you for sharing your experiences and your colleagues. You're helping investors and people in need of affordable housing
I'm a small scale Private Pay (PP) landlord for 20 years and I will be transitioning to section 8. Thanks again for sharing! Also, thanks to Marc. You guys are great!!!
Sweet, it's an honor to be able to bring value to the market. What's a PP?
Sorry, my bad. Private pay
My section 8 tenants have been wonderful, no problems. Never judge just help other people less fortunate.
Oh I also thank you for being a spokesperson on our behalf, not everyone on Section 8 tear people property up, I never destroy anyones property, I always felt and treated the place like it was my own, ever thankful and grateful to be blessed with such a nice affordable place, thank you again.
God Bless
Agreed
Thanks for this video a lot of people give section 8 recipients a bad rap
I know, I never understood that. Why is it that people don't speak more about the truth. I love my section 8 family. Their some of the best people you'd want to meet. They're simply looking to be treated with dignity and respect, pretty much just like any human.
Thanks for the game as always. Thank goodness I've had mostly good experience with Sec. 8 tenants. This tenant respected you and the property.
Dang it guys. I was about to go off on your "click baited" title of a video. Then I smiled. It's so nice to see some positive reviews. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Here is why. As a single mother of 2, I have been a section 8 tenant for 12 years. Just moved into our 3rd section 8 unit one month ago and I have already spent close to $500 in paint and minor repairs/upgrades. With my landlords approval of course. And plenty of before and after pictures. He will be able to rent his place for even more when I move out because I increased the value of the property at zero expense of him. I did this to the last place I lived at for 10 years and the place before that, I lived for 5 years. My first section 8 landlord loved me so much that he paid me to get my apt ready (minor repairs/paint)for the new tenants. And he allowed me to stay in the apartment while I did the painting, etc because I gave him 60 days. Recently, the owners of a condo we were renting decided to sell and not being able to afford the purchase we were only given 30 days to move. 30 DAYS!?!?! I WENT into panic mode. Because sect 8 tenants ALMOST ALWAYS get a bad rap, I was worried we wouldn't find a place to move that we could afford to live in. especially with only 30 days to do so. So I definitely agree with the 60 days notice. Here's why. Because 30 days was not enough time for me to find a place. I had to rent the largest storage unit I could find to move a 3 bedroom condo into. Which cost me $400. For one month. Plus uhaul rental 2 TIMES (4/5 DAY RENTALS because we didn't have much help moving, no one wants to help move in July) and the inconvenience of having to move everything we own 4 frigging times in one month. When if given 60 days notice we could have avoided all that extra work and my savings account wouldn't be suffering because of it. It was damn near impossible to find a rental in a decent area that wasn't crawling with "UG'S" (bedbugs, thugs and drugs). Fortunately, everything worked out and God sent his angels and we are very happy with our new place. And thanks to great guys like these who know that you shouldn't stereo type. You have an equal chance of renting to bad renters regardless of status quo. Do extensive back ground checks. Talk to their previous landlords. Call those numbers on their apps. But don't only call those numbers. Verify them, make sure the person you are speaking to is actually the owner of that rental and not just someone pretending to be an old landlord.
As a property manager of a complex that does not lease to Section 8 tenants, I can tell you that it's mostly the type of people receiving the assistance. I've had plenty of non Section 8 residents completely trash the apartments and townhouses we lease, before moving out, to the point that the unit is very nearly completely renovated just to get it ready to lease again. People have no idea the amount of money that goes into that process, and they wonder why everyone's rent continues to increase.
The definition is too narrow. I'm a retired property manager of affordable housing. Some tenants are neglectful and others are very clean.
Well, I only have you for about 10mins, I can only do so much in that short time, that's why i created the training course.
Wow, that is not bad. I've seen worst. Also, landlords will cover up things. Do patch work and it don't last long. That fold door I hate because it may work when you move in, open it 5 times and off the hinge. My house I'm in they patched it up and now roof ceiling leaks, house settling BAD so doors stick, floors not leveled. And, BUGS OMG! So, of course landlord taking all year to fix. Oh, and my rent up to date and I HAVE FIXED THINGS TOO. So, there are some good tenants out here.
I know a girl who lived on section 8 and she ruined her apartment then called and reported her landlord for bad living conditions, he then stopped getting paid and had to clean her place. The reason it was unhealthy to live in was her.
I managed section 8 tenants for three years in Tampa years ago. Most of them didn’t clean that well and we had cockroach problems no matter how much pest control sprayed. Probably needed a better product. The standard apartment lease with the national apartment association now has a 60 day notice you have to give. I only had one section 8 property that got torn up every night. I don’t think it was the tenants it was just a bad neighborhood. I begged for security or cameras or something but the owners said no. This was in the 1980s so cameras weren’t common at all.
I manage rentals and I would be so happy if section 8 would leave my property like that. Because my apartments have all been trashed so I don't take section 8 any longer.
oh man, sorry to hear, perhaps you can come on and share this experience to help my RU fam, krisbuyshouses@gmail.com
This tenant was far in between come to MI guaranteed the move out results would be different 😃😃😃 but hats off to the tenant showing appreciation to someone else's hardwork ....I was in the newspaper for being a good tenant when I was renting in the 2009 recession and I left my rental better than what it looked like when I moved in 😃😃😃😃 I eventually bought a home
Exactly I don't mess with Detroit tenants at all
I am on section 8 I been living in the same place for 14 years 🙏 I take it care of it like it was my own and my landlord was shocked 😳 that I shampoo my carpet once a month lol
I'm telling you, most section 8 peeps are great, thnx
It’s so nice how y’all are calling renters “section 8.” Not everyone on it is going to damage your property. And the amount the government pays is guaranteed monthly income.
I think we made it clear how much we appreciate section 8 tenants
I did section eight. Only issues some did not have income at all. The rent was 1200. They had tp pay like 60 to 80 dollars. Then the water bill would go thru the roof.
So decide fair market vaule. Now i renting 1600 a month. Cash floor is 900 a month.
Advise to all raise the rent 5 to 10 percent a year and add coin laundry 2 bucket a wash to help with water bill.
SECTION 8 GOES ON INCOME. THEY'LL PAY ALMOST ALL IF THEY SEE THE TENANT CANNOT PAY AND IT ALSO DEPENDS ON # OF PEOPLE IN HOUSEHOLD JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FED PROG, SORRY 4 CAPS NOT SHOUTING
Thee best way to handle a water bill situation is establish a reasonable liveable limit within the lease. Anything above that limit is tenant portion. Section 8 does allow tenant and land owners or agents to negotiate leases as long as the main requirements are observed.
I currently have a Section 8 tenant. This house is clean compared to what a Sec8 tenant has left mine and what it currently looks like. Just an FYI if you have a Sec8 tenant damage your home you can have them removed from the program. Happy renting!
Hi my name is Valentina and I just got on section 8 in March. I'm a single mother of six kids and I have been applying for many houses in Elk Grove. I haven't had any success in getting approved. I think that it's not fair that people like us on section 8 aren't given a chance to be able to rent a place called home. It's so hard and I wish at least one landlord will give me a chance to prove that me and my kids take good care of the things we have and that we are very clean and responsible. Not every one on section 8 are bad and irresponsible. Please give us a opportunity to show y'all.
well, all we can do scream to the highest how great our section 8 tenants are, I'm doing my best to get the word out for you guys...
I am a Section 8 Tenant, and I always keep My Unit clean, and maintained to minimize the damage to normal wear and tear.
You know, I believe most Section 8 tenants are great people. They take care of things they have. It's just the few that give us all a bad name...
This is what happens when u want this quick check. Guarantee money.Take your time screening tenants.Gid bless .
And Ive lost rentals on section 8 after sticking up for my rights against sub standard units or sexual HARRASSMENT by one landlord that got me evicted even though I never was late on rent and took excellent care of the property and did not violate and rules .I just SAID NO and lost my rental . Even after I made many improvements for my landlord ( with approval first of course ) and got burned by the landlord so for as many bad tenants there are there is an equal number of BAD LANDLORDS
I've lived in section 8 property and my apt looked as good as when I started. If they don't let you check it regularly or call for repairs then you should question the inside.
I love when you actually go out & shows us stuff like this.. taking notes 📝
I'd love to do more of it but you'd be shocked to see how hard it is to actually DO business, plus record all this stuff AND make it interesting. But i'll take a note to do more of this....
Section 8 has nothing to do with being trifling. It has everything to do with inequality.
I have had section 8 for 15 years after siting on a 3 year wait list. I'm an excellent housekeeper and I pay all my bills on time. Always
And yes finding a landlord to accept my voucher is next to impossible.
I had to extend my 60 day search twice and only found A slumlord at the very last minute before my voucher expired
yes, it's hard using the program esp in certain cities. I wish you luck on this one...
Adorable little house.
At least they didn't beat the $**t out of it.
Easy tidy and quick clean.
Ready for a new family.
I had a section 8 tenant I asked her to leave,her boyfriend caused a scene and the police showed up,after they were gone people they knew moved in and turned my building into a trap house,I evicted 1st and 2nd floor at the same time and within a few weeks I was getting death threats by a gang of them.
They should loose their section 8 if they don't clean it up. I'm surprised at how well they left the apartment .
It’s sucks cause as someone who grew up on section 8, it’s always the bad tenants and landlords that everyone thinks about. Not about the landlords that actually care and fix the properties, and not the messy tenants that make a bad name for poor families.
Yes.... Everyone wants to focus on the negative, Thank you for showing the other side. Awesome Commentary.
Thanks for watching! We both love our section 8 tenants..
Unfortunately, some give all a bad name. Poor doesn't mean nasty. I know rich people that keep their houses like something off of Hoarders. At the end of the day, people are people, regardless of income. Thanks for renting trough Section 8.
I personally think that there has to be more smart landlords and home owners, that put out the positive reasons to rent out property to section 8 tenant's. This country is in the middle of a recession, and all of these new investors, banking corporations and ect are buying apartment complexes and home's, and they're remodeling and renovating them all, and they are all doing away with accepting section 8 anymore. And they're jacking up the rent and mortgages as well as kicking out tenants who have lived in the properties for years. Meanwhile people are ether losing their jobs, or quitting their jobs. And the one sure thing that these property owners don't seem to get is... When you have section 8 tenant's whether they lose a job or not the rent still gets paid . And if someone is on disability (SS#) and their benefits are interrupted, or stopped for some reason, then the tenants pay zero and section 8 pays for it all. I just don't get it, and apparently the corporations don't get it either. For sure I see them being stuck with all of these different properties vacant in about five years or less.
Some of the section 8 tenants leave the place tore the F up. They make people on section 8 look bad. Some people do right. They keep there places clean and clean when they leave. Section 8 should tell there applicants if you leave a place tore up then you lose your section 8. Bottom line
It just takes a few to ruin it for everyone
Please don't bash all section 8s. Sobriety is more a factor. I am section 8 and contribute to my management and neighbors. For example, cleaning, painting and picking up trash outside. I am grateful for affordable housing, and contribute to improvements for free. Everybody benefits.
what, we both LOVE our section 8 tenants, they're great people.
Ty for sharing this video l. I'm on section 8 and it hurts me to see people trashing these places because not all of us are nasty pigs.
Thank you
Hate how people don't appreciate what they have, they make it bad for the people who really need section 8. Good tenants suffer and have a hard time gaining access to section 8 properties because of the "bad apples".
Or, places wont accpt section 8 help cause they think the renters gonna trash cause past events or what told and reason any. so not all section 8 renters do wrong.
I can see how some can be a pain to deal with for any reason. while others call if need to at time for any reason. it better to work with manager who is around to fix any then to be a hassle and cause them to wanna kick u out for any reason. section 8 not bad it just theo who get it cause hassles for those who rent places and then think twice doing it anymore cause others make it seem a pain sometimes.
@Gerrylynn Mako Seen videos and some or many have left cali cause the hassles they making now, so to do what u gotta works for u then cool. this pandemic has really made those who do real estate anytime now rethink on starting it or doing it still anytime now. we all do what we gotta do for any reason. i cant wait to move out of cali cause the hassles and all. but guessing things may not get any better if the gov keeps bsing and not doing for any reason.
We live in a time when they make the innocent suffer along with the guilty.that is sad
I’ve never been on section 8 but i always get my deposit back when I move. I leave it spotless
What the f*** does you leaving your property have to do with people getting help that are from DV poor homes or otherwise have to do with them leaving their home in poor conditions or not there are millionaire CZcamsrs millionaire actors that leave their apartments in shambles why are you categoring leaving an apartment in poor condition to people that get assistant from the f****** government I can't with you people I can't with you people every individual is different rent out to people that are responsible and is not against the law nor is it necessary for you to make a video to make it hard as f*** for people to find places to live because you suit fit to think that you're mad because you have to pay a full price for something and they don't this is discrimination as best in one day it will be noticed I am flagging the f*** out of this video it is so disgusting how you treat these people
I just got on housing...I'm 70...I keep my apt spotless...my landlord never took it..until I rented his Dump and turned it into a beautiful place to live...so all people are not Destructive...and yes I am blessed to have a landlord who appreciate what I have done for his property and that I got on housing...
people hardly speak on the levels of sanitation of a home owner because they have the privacy of not having a property owner come in and see the hoard or filth. You would be surprised at the nasty homes of people who make a 6-figure incomes. I've gone to homes of people who work paycheck to paycheck and they are a clean freak and homes always spotless. Its the person- not the income level
Most of us are very respectful of everything. We might just be suffering from depression, anxiety, both etc etc. One thing I wish is for landlords would pick more cheerful colours for walls, can’t u paint them like a dusty rose or a hint of yellow, all doors should be white.
Oh yep your right make people deal like they are in a hospital. NOT seriously white went out years ago it's nasty!!!!
I live in nice apartments that started out great...about a year after moving in I got section 8 neighbors...I have been miserable ever since...NOISE!!! TRASH!!! GHETTO ATTITUDES!!!! Moving in 2 weeks!!
You had bad luck. I'm not ghetto nor am I loud. But I did fall ill after working all my life until I was classified disabled. And, I'm not nasty. Seems you just got bad neighbors.
@@_smurfitude YOU are an exception...or at least you would be in the south...these girls are young strong and ABLE...they have new cars lots of kids and smoke weed on a regular..people who TRULY need help I have ABSOLUTELY no problem with living next to...THAT is what the program was designed for!!!
Just found this video - I love the exchange of ideas between 2 entrepeneurs... brilliant...
I lived in an apartment that wasn't on section 8, and was going thru inspection for the apartment to be section 8, landlord agree to go thru inspection but the apartment above me left tub running and water was dripping into my apartment, instead of him fixing the hole in the ceiling, he told me to put my silk tree in the kitchen to hide it he had a whole month b4 the inspection, God blessed me with getting into a program to buy a home, now have brought two homes and will be building for the first time, ladies there so much out there for you to get ahead, when I brought my first house my mortgage was cheaper than my rent, look into all the programs out there not just section 8, your city have so much to give you to get started on your own, I was a single mother of 4 each one of my kids has brought their own home by 30 years old, you can have your own. Its out there for you, start with your city.
Would be curious to see the shutter you use from vinyl plank floors
If I have time I would love to post a picture.
@@marcthelandlord2269 much appreciated. I’ve been trying to look for photos online but cant find anything
Why didn’t the contractor apply drywall putty to the paneled walls before painting them?
LOL
@@_smurfitude I meant in the creases to give the appearance of drywall.
Have done it in the past. Seems to crack fast from the flex in the paneling. Ultimately replacing with drywall would be ideal.
12 years in one spot until the grandmother passed and they sold the property. I loved my place I kept it very immaculate. We are all not nasty.
I was on Section 8 for awhile, NEVER trashed or damaged anything & I moved every year til I found the right place for my daughters’ & school district! Stayed in the last place for about 3yrs til I moved in with my boyfriend & let the next family take advantage of this life-saving project! It truly came at my deepest time after a 2yr waiting list! The homes had your normal wear & tear, my kids never drew on the walls either! Can’t stand to see that 🙄
Thats the best move out condition ever...lol...
Top 20 for sure
FOR CERTAIN, HE SHOULD SEE THAT MAN IN DETROIT VIDEOS.
Don't be too quick to say that this was the best condition ever. Check the last part of the video and you will see when the camera passes a room there is at least 1 hole in the wall. Its at the end.
@@blondeblue32 ..Ill take holes in a wall over a WHOLE INTERIOR ANYDAY..lol..I have seen some monster move outs
@@marcuslane3 They could have shown it, but didn’t. I think they should have in all honesty.
I wish my section 8 tenants left my unit looking that good.
Yes, u never know what's going to happen
It's very hard here ⁴for people who have Section 8 housing vouchers to find housing. Generally once they get housing, they tend to take care of it. Some Section 8 tenants are required to pass annual inspections to see how well they keep their places. Please consider renting to Section 8 tenants.
yes, we do love our section 8 tenants, most of them are great peeps.
Just because a person has section 8 does not mean that their dirty and dysfunctional. Mouse section 8 tenants are happy to have a home.
That's not a house, that's a Shed 😂
Your not a investor - your a troll
wildtill9 awww, and you're a whiny, triggered snowflake ......
Nobody cares what you think 💋
Honestly, no person or entity should be allowed to own more than 1 rental property. Each rental house or condo destroys the dream of ownership for another person, family, or retiree. Enterpreneurs are gobbling up ALL of the SMALL starter and retirement housing options. It disgusts me. Why can't "investors" UNDERSTAND they are KILLING the American DREAM?
I lived in a section 8 complex for 10 years…I raised my son their while I went to college…I left the unit in immaculate condition when I moved out…gratitude was the reason
Section 8 will not pay Landlords market value
Well, I think it all depends on where ur property is located. I have gotten rents higher than market and in other cities they pay below, so it all depends.
If that tenant wants that property, the tenant pays the overage
Can you make the tenant sign an additional contract over the hud contract. ?
what type of contract are you referring to?
@@krishaskins The HUD contract is what is required through section-8. My question is that can the tenant be required to sign an additional contract from the landlord in addition to the HUD contract. Such as the rent being higher than what HUD is willing to pay. Also issues such as repairs that the tenant must make by their own expense, by a pre selected handyman, or else be refused a renewal offer once the HUD contract expires. Kris, I am tired of having the repair expense extend past the damage deposit after the tenant leaves. HUD only recognizes a $500.00 damage deposit.
@@blondeblue32 u can only change and do things that your state allow u to which may have nothing to do with section 8
@@aimeekreutzer-malkawi Thank you for the reply, but your answer is a non answer. Does hud (federal program) allow for a separate agreements to be made with the tenant, as a consequence of participating into the section 8 program?
I’ve worked in property management for years, no section 8, and not a single tenant ever left their unit in this tip top shape as the section 8 tenant left this place!
This unit is immaculate; I’d prly move in as a tenant as is, lol
No doubt, it's a good move out. We're just trying to get the word out that NOT all section 8 peeps are bad....
My experience with section8 has been terrible. All they did not steal they left the unwanted items behind. Took me three months to get rid of the roaches. Going to try it just one more time hoping for better.
Ok, sounds like we may need to do a more thorough job w the screening of the tenant, a roach infested house won't happen over night and that tenant shouldn't have gotten through ur screening process, I'd like to see what ur screening process looks like. That tenant was probably dirty b4 they moved in ur place, what do u think?
@@krishaskins I agree. It was my first tenant period. A senior raising her grands, had pass thief history, church goer, figured how could I go wrong. She was the worse. Folks living in the basement, (not on lease ). Section8 seem to have supported her all the way. Currently been waiting over 28 days for RFTA., that’s after the last one bailed after 40days and decided she didn’t want to move. This program needs a lot of overhaul.
I do plan on speaking with someone in administration about my experience with this program. It should not be this complicated
They tore my Father's inheritance property up- put a refrigerator in the LIVINGROOM and moved in a newly released convict.
So, there's that.
Ugh..they turned housing that was originally for veterans into section 8 housing near my residential neighborhood..
Funny how they have no money to pay rent, but have money for Heineken, fireworks, weed smoking, professional DJ's and elaborate parties! 🤔
Infuriating!!
@@CHRISTINE162004 - you don't know the half of it. In L.A., they are tearing down single unit houses and building 2-story, multi-family Section 8 dwellings. Doubles or triples foot and vehicle traffic each time one is built and filled up with people. No one knows anyone in the community, old folks are unfamiliar with new neighbors, cars blocking driveways, birthday parties with jumpers every weekend...
It's not the street I great up on anymore.
Oteka... Lord help us!🙏
@@CHRISTINE162004, we're gonna need it.
Don't know where you live, but in my application for a voucher, they check backgrounds. I've seen worse out of people who pay full rent.
The only negatives I've heard about this is Kids.
My wife and I own 11 rental properties. I can tell you from our experiences and the wisdom we've learned from it . These two are bottom feeders. My wife and I decided when we got into investing in rental properties to not ever become "slum lords" . You have to decide what type of investor you want to be. Do you want to be a "buy here pay here" kind of landlord or do you want to be a moral upstanding one? To use the car dealer analogy again. These two are the type of landlords that will put 90 weight gear oil in a car that is worn out to keep it from smoking and sell it as a clean ,low miles auto! We have two properties that we purchased from these types and what we found while renovating them was atrocious! We could tell that the properties were just worn out ,not from tenant abuse but from years and years of band aid ,cheaply done repairs. These two purposely buy the cheapest properties they can and purposely rent out to the lowest denominator and then cry fowl when it falls apart. Can you make money doing this way? Of course you can! Question is , do you really want to be one of these guys?
I don't destroy property, and I have a voucher. It's discriminatory to classify all Section 8 tenants as destructive! Many seniors and disabled are on this program, and we have to pass inspections! I do not like you, nor would I ever rent from you! Some of what you said caused this reaction!
I got a roof
@James Smythe Troll, not everyone who gets a voucher has had 'handouts' all their lives. You don't even know me or my lifepath and u sound like the fool u are
They do here in Cincinnati. There are 16 houses in my neighborhood that are uninhabitable now. And slighted for demolition. All where section 8...10 years ago these houses where all nice.