Blackburn Fans Despise Me. Bradley Orr Pt 2. Corkies, Snakes and Maggots
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2022
- #BradleyOrr is back for part two talking through his time dealing with Adel Taarabt at QPR, his nightmare move to #BlackburnRovers, the venomous abuse of Steve Keane, the troubles from the board and the players that refused to play.
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As a blackburn fan and season ticket holder of 18 years previous to the Kean/venkys era,I just want to give some perspective of what was happening at the time through my eyes and through the eyes of I am sure many Blackburn fans at the club I love.
Previous 10 years before Kean Established premier league team.
Known to be one of the best run clubs in England great chairman etc. We overachieved with funds spent fanbase size of club.
Established top tier manager in Sam allardyce (regardless of football played he was a top manager for a club our size at the time)
Everything was good. Most Blackburn fans are not unrealistic enough to expect us stay in the top league forever, but the way it happened seemed totally corrupt for Blackburn fans and it still stinks today.
After Venkys takeover
Pretty much immediate removal of manager.
Appoint guy nobody has ever heard of. Football agent being involved in all dealings at the club, including appointment of new manager.
All very well respected and longstanding staff at club forced to resign or forced out including John williams who is a blackburn legend and one of the main reasons we stayed in the prem so long.
Established good premier league players that had been with us a long time were not played and eventually replaced with inferior players for no apparent reason. Released from Their contracts in many cases and silenced as they never spoke of it.
Ryan nelson in particular springs to mind. Never played for ages established good premier league defender released from his contract then next week starts for spurs.
Imagine if your club is being sold out for a certain few individuals gain. I remember at the time being genuinely worried for its existence. What would you do if it was your club?
And most fans (me included) believed steve kean was complicit and involved in the very dodgy dealings of the time. His agent who got him the managers job (Jerome anderson) was undoubtledly involved in the demise and signed his own son ffs( Myles anderson) A guy who steve kean if i remember at the time called him the new Chris Smalling. A guy who was not good enough for Barrow and Exeter.
They were taking the piss. Lots of instances of steve kean talking absolute bull shit, just taking the piss. Do some research on it
There were lots of things going on at his time of the club that stank. And that bent t**t kean and his agent mate filled their own pockets and twisted the truth to put the blame on the fans.
There was no logical explanation as to what was going on from a football perspective, absolutely none
The media at the time instead of investigating what was really happening, just turned on the local fans protesting and basically laughed at us. I never protested because I did not think it would help but I understood their reasons for doing so. Why did the media never try to help??
Little Blackburn they don't matter. Maybe. They matter to me.
Jerome Anderson even got on sky sports and was asked very nice questions as to why he was the victim, instead of doing proper journalism. I don't remember any real blackburn fans being invited on to voice their opinion.
Sorry for the rant, brings back old memories
Excellent post mate, fellow roverite here. Orr is no saint, lets make that clear, he makes out here that he had some sort of dressing room authority which he didn't. Retiring at 31 tells you how good he and his career was.
Well said. Orr is giving his perspective but I'm not sure everything he said is accurate. I think he is deliberately pulling the wool over people's eyes by blaming the fans for not knowing 'the truth'. We all knew the dark forces at work and Steve Kean's links to them... it's easier for Orr to paint a picture of taking the moral high ground but not sure how true it is.
A classic pod-cast boys, Bradley sounded a honest bloke, great stories, and honest assessment of football today
As a Newcastle fan, part 1 was gold. Part 2 equally as good. Exactly the level of player / personality you want to see on the Pod. Opinionated, but relevant to the last 10-15 years of the game for majority of audience. Carved out a very respectable career, brutally honest about the game which shatters some illusions, some questionable decisions off the pitch (Google Bradley Orr and the Magna Carta).
Would love to know more about Watford court case and player it involved.
Prefer guests like Orr/Matt Mills/Matt Kilgallon/Craig Davies/Martin Allen over the likes of the bigger names Downing/Le Tiss/Jarvis for example.
Great insight all round.
Agree except for the disgusting Matt Mills, he can do one
i admire him even more after reading about him keeping the play center open, a man of great integrity, who knows the difference between right and wrong
@@itz_sammybtheg1692 I agree. He was a arrogant sod.
Never liked him as a player but sure I would have if he played for my club but what a decent bloke, nothing better than a bloke with morals
as a blackburn fan the atmosphere in the ground was so sad after the venkys came in and we were going down. I understand that watching blackburn means everything to the fans but they were so angry at what was happening at the club that it wasnt nice to go watch rovers was a really sad time. Hopefully blackburn are on the up and people are happier in present times but it wasnt nice for everyone involved at the club at the time it seems
Maybe more Blackburn fans watch this mate and realise the crap that was actually going on and understand a bit more. It's the same at every club though isn't it tbf, always crap going on behind the scenes. Hope you boys are on the way up again.
Bet it was you who threw the cricket ball you nutcase.
No one who is actually a Rovers fan refers to themselves as a Blackburn fan, so I would take any views from folk who describe themselves as Blackburn fans with a pinch of salt. #just saying
@@coops1964 hmm coops with his CZcams picture as a Blackburn badge trying too hard to convince everyone he is a Blackburn fan seems suspicious. You seem like an undercover Dingle coming on rovers videos to wind up the true fans.
Hmm... so givet, samba, ryan Nelsen, salgado and Jason Roberts all got 'dropped' on the 2nd half of the relagation season. Samba, roberts, and salgado have all said it because the venkys didn't want them to influence the dressing room apparently and all rovers fans know about the influence of kean and the agency he was part of kentro. Kean dug his own grave. Yeah he shouldn't of been put in that position to deal with the decline of rovers but maybe he shouldn't of stabbed big Sam in the back. There's even a video of him slagging him off. Keans a cretin. Fair play to orr though seems a good professional. Just think there was a Web of disfunction from the venkys, to kentro (Jerome anderson) through the DnA of the club for them 1st 3 season of their ownership
The reason for that was when they sacked Allardyce and installed Kean there was anger. Anderson nipped it in the bud by offering 1 year extensions to senior pros, Then before they kicked in and cost money Kean and him froze them out and forced them out. When you have an Agent and his partner agencies running the club it all becomes about commissions. Player turnover/contracts.sales/pay offs, he was offering them a large % of their contracts to leave, with Vs money. Then of course they'd need replacing. It was the biggest sting in modern day football. Club still suffers from it to this day, they ought to be jailed. Orr is a '#### but just making up his own story.
Fantastic. A proper Man's man, stands up for what he believes in, speaks his mind and wears his heart on his sleeve. I struggle to believe there's many players like him nowadays.
Best one yet! Thanks for everything you did for Bristol city Brad!
Love these podcasts as I struggle to get through autobiographies but fly through these! All the best
I’ve watched most of the Cosh’s episodes now and this is my favourite. Top man, very insightful as to the inner workings of football and a great listen. Top pod guys, keep ‘em coming!
“Who was it that ran 50m like???……… Nzonzi” hahahahaha love it. Great episodes.
Loved this episode
Talking about agents and clubs
I have a friend who’s son was seen as the best player in the academy and wouldn’t let him play against the best clubs in case they lost him on the cheap and then a new coach came in that was more defensive and let him go, he was gutted and it took a lot to get his self esteem back
He has now gone to semi pro and is doing well so hopefully he will do a “jamie vardy” and be seen but he is now 10 years down the line
I still think that not everyone sees things how they are
Glad you are talking about it 👍
As a Blackburn fan Thanks Bradley Orr for telling us what was really happening during that period. Shame you never played for us during better times
Absolutely brilliant podcast 1 and 2 guys, well done Bradley, wishing you and your family the best of luck😊
Fantastic interview with Bradley what a great lad he is. Love the stories about his mates going to watch him at Bristol, different level!
Fantastic double episode, never knew anything about Bradley Orr before watching this but what an awesome podcast . He comes across as a top top bloke with his honesty and really good stories 🫡
One of the best podcasts I’ve seen. Very interesting his thoughts on the youngsters getting binned etc. I know he says he’s done with football but I think he should set up some kind of counselling agency for the kids who don’t quite make it. Bradley comes across as very intelligent and I
am sure he would be a great in that kind of role. Keep up the good work lads. 💪💪
Remember that Swansea Blackburn game, think we won 3-0 at home not 1-0 but that doesn't really matter.
They were terrible Blackburn, they looked a team that just gave up and accepted going down.
Nzomzi is the player he was referencing there who did fuck all running in the game, I remember that clear as day watching the game that day and thinking what a lazy bastard. If your on X per week as a professional athlete and you can't be bothered to run, your a disgrace to your profession.
I hope Steve Kean is doing well and doesn't work with a bunch of maggots anymore.
I really enjoyed that interview, he's a top bloke Bradley Orr.
I remember him being a top player for Bristol City for years, really good pod again lads 👍
What a man! One of my absolute favourites. Almost on a par with Andy Johnson, which was totally different (But I am a West Brom fan). The N'Zonzi comment right at the end was class!
Keane and Jerome Anderson wrecked Blackburn Rovers. Were players refusing to play for big sam before he got assasinated by Keane? NO!
What a proper stand up fella, good luck to you Bradley Orr. 👏
Another belter. Really really good! So honest and Too many stories to even pick one out in particular. A man youd want in your trench for sure!
The problem is we Rovers fans did know what was going on even before Bradley showed up, a bunch of our players had already been shut out by Venkys under Keane the way he later was under Berg.
One of the best so far!
Not being disrespectful at all but I had no idea who Bradley Orr was so when I clicked on by accident and heard his scouse accent I was 99.9% certain it was going to be a classic pod-cast and it didn't dissapoint!! Brilliant and so good to hear his stories but most of all what a man who has integrity, morals and principles which we need more of in today's society. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 YNWA!!
Browny on the adverts man😂🤣 the enthusiasm
Absolutely brilliant. Loved his complete and utter honesty.
Wow !!! Absolutely superb boys ... Bradley Orr what a man - honest as they come 👏👏👍
Lost 2-0 at Palace, not 5-1. The Swansea game was 3-0 not 1-0 and Givet went to the press to categorically deny the rumours. We had one clean sheet in the period Orr claimed many more, we were not top of the league when he claimed and we had not been on a long unbeaten run before the Peterborough game. I never saw a cricket ball being launched and I never heard anyone at game say that happened. He completely ignores how Kean got the job in the first place, the many lies that landed Kean in court or the compensation he had to pay Allardyce. I don't personally hate Orr, for me he was just symptomatic of everything wrong at club that was rotten to the core thanks to a corrupt organisation tasked with running the club by extremely naive owners.
yeah he does seem to have a funny memory
Brilliant insight. Really enjoyed it 👍🏻
Now that warnock is on twitter, could you try and get him on?
Might need to give him a brown envelope
I bet they've tried!! Let's hope he agrees, what a episode that would be.
Ask Rowan Vine to pay Him to come on 😂😂
Whip round to get Warnock on! ££
"The maggot "Shebby Singh died of a heart attack at the beginning of 2022
What a class act this man is
REAL AS THEY COME never thought the 2nd part could top the first Top Drawer guys
Throughly enjoyed it. Bradley is one of the last of a dying breed ...... A proper bloke .
Got to be the best podcast yet. Seems to be a real man with real qualities in life that the football world just don’t have
Brilliant as always lads. Love the honesty here from Brad.
Superb cast, Bradley Orr seems spot on, all around good fella.
I remember that Shebby Singh character, I went to look him up to see what he was up to nowadays and turns out he passed away in January
Real classy of this guy to call someone who recently passed a maggot etc… tells you more abt him than anything else.
@@scrum7 very true , but he may not have known that he passed at the time
Thoroughly enjoyable Bradley comes across as a top bloke who speaks the truth and his mind certainly doesn't come across like a big head etc, I'm a Leeds Fan it's time Blackburn were back in the premier League like Forest have now returned, worst thing that's happened to Blackburn is the venkys Sir jack walker would be turning in his grave what they have done to his beloved Rovers.
Disgusted with Watford (as a fan of the club), this is another reason I have fallen out of love with club. How dare they think they can bully people like this causing stress and anxiety. My club is no longer a family club and a disgrace.
What has tinpot Watford got to do with this episode of UTC?
@@michaelcooper9705 you obviously didn’t listen to it if you’re asking that
@@michaelcooper9705 oh dear, someone didn't listen till the end did they.
@@paulriding7171 No I got bored and switched off at around the 1:12 point tbh.
@@michaelcooper9705 bell end
Just subbed on the back of this and le tissier podcasts. Taking me this long to find a decent podcast.
Great listen this lads.
As a Blackburn fan, i agree... the fans don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
From being a well run club to the total circus it became under Venkys. I'm still saddened to this day.
I was at that Wigan game & yes the atmosphere was absolute poison. I saw stewards being assaulted & fans threatening to storm the boardroom. We had 3 season tickets in our house back then. None of us have ever renewed.
The cork cricket ball was probably a reference to the Venkys interest in the IPL.
I still hate the Venkys with a passion... and always will.
Thanks Bradley for spilling the beans on what was happening.
The 5-0 loss against Crystal Palace is completely made up, Palace beat Blackburn 2-0 away in that season and the next match was 2-2 away against Huddersfield. Hardly 5-0 and conceding 9 in 2 matches. A lot of the stories are interesting but the details are skewed to create a false impression of what actually happened. His complete inability to understand why fans were angry with Steve Kean is gob-smacking.
Awesome lads
Proper bloke with principles and isn't afraid of the consequences.
Very entertaining listen. Would agree as a Bristol City fan he was class for us 👍🏼⚽️
I support Bristol City and was absolute class in time with us. Ended up breaking his cheek bone from a hull city boot in the championship play off final. The fella carried on. True warrior
Loved this one lads! Another belter. Different but wonderful insight into what goes on behind the scenes. From the outside looking in it was made out that everything going on at Blackburn was Kean’s fault. So it’s refreshing to see another side to it, particularly important to note that he hadn’t actually played for Kean that long so didn’t seem to be one of kean’s men sticking up for him, more that his honest impartial opinion sticks up for Kean. If that makes sense.
On a similar note, Grant Holt was hung out to dry at Wigan by Uwe Rosler and when Grant was on here he gave his story which was completely different.
Keep up the good work lads and best wishes to Bradley Orr and his family, nice to see he’s found happiness.
OMG this guy is one of the most genuine people I have ever listened to! BO for PM
Top man. Great listen . At the end about football and the morality of it. So interesting . Fair play
Brilliant interview this best by far
I actually love this. Rovers fan all my life and tbh I always take people telling stories with a pinch of salt but I can honestly say this bloke has my respect. 👍🏼 great listen
Good to see a player with morales and integrity
Top professional had a very steady career and always give his all.
Top podcast this one and another good in site to how toxic a club can be from owners as it slowly radiates through the club top to bottom.
Last word; Nzonzi 😂😂😂😂😂
Class Episode! One of my favourite and comes across as a top bloke and tells it how it is!
He is right about the way football has gone it is morally bankrupt.
Greed is the root of all evil.
Bradley keeping it Scouse. Is right la. Top pro, top lad. Great pod this one boys. Hope big JP had the factor 50 on mind
Class that one fellas another genuine pro 👌⭐️
I say this most episodes, but this was one of the best yet. The Blackburn story was incredible, and good on him for naming and shaming Givet and NZonzi
Proper teammate Brad brilliant podcast👍
A brilliant, open, honest interview. Seems a top fella. Good luck to him.
Very interesting 👍🏻
Both episodes were tremendous. Cheers
Great insight Bradley lad
The first story about his “cousin” isn’t this in part one as well?
are beer 52 bringing it round on a pushbike?
I used to comment in the early days, yeah but who arranged the drinking trips cos parky seemed obsessed with it. Stopping listening for a while because I had lost thr football side of things, however I've listened to the last 10 ot so and they have been brilliant
Well done lads. Great work
Another great episode lads. Good to see the channel go from strength to strength 👍
Great pod cast again lads.
Easily one of the best ones you have done this.
A great insight into the cruel side of football
Need to get a show in the Midlands lads
As a Blackburn fan the understanding goes both ways how Steve Kean manufactured his way into the managers job was the main antagonist against him, I agree Shevie Singh was a disaster that was what proved to us Venkys havent got a clue how to run a club. I apologise to Bradley about the abuse he sufferd it wasnt right but so many have sufferd at hitting out at fans, yeah we didnt know the whole story, So we need people like Bradley to open the can of worms and tell how it is.
One of the best pods so far!!
Absolutely brilliant!! Loved the honesty and even named some! Not the funniest one but up there with the best!
Well done speaking up against football corruption. It’s rife. And he also stuck up for a Blackburn lad and a Blackburn legend don’t forget. Even though he was hated by Blackburn fans he still speaks honest and has integrity
Must have missed the bit he spoke up about the corruption of Kean being appointed in the first place
@@jcshy you do realise that the chairman probably didnt come up to Orr and ask his advice about Kean as the next manager?
@@Andy-kg9ud he was there when Jerome Anderson was pulling the strings behind the scenes, the same person who caused the mess the club’s still recovering from today. He was there when Anderson was advising Kean not to play certain players, and Kean played a massive part in setting the narrative which Orr still strangely backs him for
Must be a mad industry if running other small businesses in the UK are comparatively stress free. Madness.
Brilliant episode lads , Bradley was most genuine down to earth footballer I’ve ever heard . Wish him every success going forward 👍
Cool geezer.....defo no grey areas with him u will know where u stand in his eyes ....exactly what i like and search for
Brilliant. Speaks well him, really enjoyed this one. 👌
Exact same thing has happened again this season for rovers! Think the fans forget they're people too and we suffered so many injuries this season.
Loved part 1 as a 🔴⚪️ fan - Brad was a fans favorite the season we got promoted and then got to the play off final. Part 2 equally as good - interested to know who it was at Watford when the court case took place……
Fucking brilliant!! Need more people to tell the truth on the world of football cus that was excellent!! Good for Brad to open up and tell what we fans done see is alarming!
Subscribed now Chris. Don't shit in my fridge.
Great podcast lads, top top man, with proper morals, loved the way it finished with Griffo’s shit 😂😂😂
Who’s the centre back and centre midfielder at Blackburn he’s talking about does anyone know?
I wondered that too. A bit annoying how the neither the two Brown's or Porky asked.
The centre back's Givet. The midfielder, if I had to guess, was Formica. He only played 45 mins that day and you'd imagine it was someone that had played half a game. Wasn't known for running around here, there and everywhere either
He's a hero in Burnley though, right? 🤷♀️🤣 Joking aside, I think he comes across well, and it's good to hear from somebody who was inside the maelstrom caused by Venkys x
This from the man who believed covid was made up and that he could use the Magna Carta to break the law. Who was your agent whilst playing Bradley? Who was Steve Keans agent?
just lately iv realised every club whos had bad owners seem to go down .. so sheffield wednesday leeds United blackburn rovers Birmingham city coventry city portsmouth im sure theres more .also with these bad owners it causes mentak health issues for the players which isnt good at all makes fans hate football like myself i dont like the way things are ran in football so iv given up on going to Hillsborough for a while and i watch my local none league side worksop town who surprisingly are decent 🦉🐯
Absolutely brilliant, great guy.
Last time seen u guys on the lash in Wembley
To many adverts on here
I'm not a Blackburn fan, nor am I a fan of any club Bradley Orr has ever played for, however he comes across as a really good guy and one of the few players who actually gave a shit about Rovers at that time but a bit surprised to read so many Blackburn fans in the comments with some really awful opinions about him, sounds like he played through injury to cover the slack of 'good' players who couldn't be arsed with it, as a Stockport fan I know how hard it is to hear negative things about your club and your fanbase but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true. Fans see a tiny bit of the real picture, he played through it. I believe every word he says.
He stood there in front of the cameras after we'd been relegated and basically tried to blame fans. He was defending the tossers who'd ruined our club mins after the game had finished on a night he should have keep his big mouth shut. He got a new contract not long after despite being shite, says it all. You as a football fan especially after what your team has been through should understand the depth of feeling on things like this. These goons pass through our clubs, earn shit loads, contribute nothing then have the nerve to stand there and tell us what we should think ? Guy is a disgrace he should hand his 4 year pay off back.
Bradley you could start a kids team at the wacky warehouse 😂 never say never
Wow,more honesty like this,brilliant insight in to the steamier side of football management heard the rumours but to hear it first hand,more of the same guys.this should get you you plenty more subscribers 🏐🏐
As a Blackburn fan, this was great to listen to. Still hate him tho! 😂
Can we not just have 1 part that is for ADs?
Excellent
How can you not want to play in the premier league to keep your team up just play left back Steve kean era was toxic remember Bolton game Tuesday night Xmas 2011 on sky was brutal