LG C3 vs Samsung S90C vs Sony A80L OLED TV Comparison
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2023
- This video is sponsored by Best Buy. We do an overview comparison of 2023 midrange OLED TVs, based on Best Buy's Top Deals from 7/24/2023 to 7/30/2023. Purchase links:
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I always feel I get smarter every time I listen to Vincent talk about TVs
Can someone give some examples why the s90c colours are frustrating in gaming?
Any images I can actually look at?
If you want to hate yourself as balance, go listen to Quantum 😂
Imagine him talking about quantum physics, philosophy etc…
I feel the opposite after watching CNN.
@@BaSiC47 😂
I bought a 65" C3 because of this video. As Vincent said, everything just works. It detects everything correctly, it sets up everything, and it switches seamlessly between different sources. The picture is stonkin good too; if you're worried about it being too dark, don't be. It's way brighter than my previous LG CX.
Agreed, got a 55" and for gaming it's amazing
@@usjtamake sure you have tone mapping on not hgig much brighter image.
Yup just switch modes for diff type of shows movies etc
I own a BX and I’m thinking to upgrade to C3 or S90C.
Did u see a more punchier image compared to CX?
@@usjtahow do you fix the colour banding problem?
I just bought one and it's amazing for movies, but when i use it with games the colour banding is atrocious
Hi Vincent! Thanks for all the information, I have a question that it's answer doesn't seem to be anywhere on the net including RTINGS, by any chance do you know the input lag of the LG C3 when VRR is enabled? Thank you!
15ms
Can confirm that the BestBuy Geek Squad protection does indeed cover burn-in/image retention. I had the 5 year plan on my 2016 LG OLED C6P that started to go bad in the center of the display and at the end of additional warranty timeframe I upgraded through the protection plan to a 2021 LG OLED C1. Paid the difference in the cost of the 2 displays so I was only out about $400 and I got a massive increase in brightness and a bump in screen size.
Oh that's good , hopefully they stay at this level of competitiveness .
Did you game on your C6P? How would you describe the burn in?
@@paws315 I gamed on it for basically the entire 5 years using XBOX One X, a PS4 Pro, and a PC. Had no complaints at all for the gaming experience.
The burn-in actually started from Assassin’s Creed Origins given how insane the brightness for the HDR was in that game at times. To that end, it was in the middle of the display and unless you had a orange-ish/yellow-ish color around the middle of the display it wasn’t really that obvious to see. I noticed it but if you were to ask my wife she would have been oblivious.
@@DasTechGuy thanks! Odyssey was on my backlog, now I'm second guessing it. Is HDR even worth it 🤔
@@paws315 Oh absolutely! HDR is a game changer! To clarify, I ran AC: Origins within the first couple hundred of hours of run time on the display. Those first few hundred hrs are super crucial for settling the panel and it is far more susceptible to burn-in. After about 300 hrs or so, the OLED panel will have settled and will be far less susceptible to things going bad quickly. Not saying it’s then completely safe but so long as you don’t have the brightness completely cranked to 100% and leave a static image on-screen for 20+ minutes without any interaction at all your chances for severe burn-in is lessened considerably.
LG made a ton advances for the display panel in later models and from the 2019 models on the risk for burn-in keeps getting less and less even from the get-go.
Thanks for the good review!
I'm looking for some advice now that I'm planning on buying a new TV, I have found some black Friday offers where I can get either Sony A80L 65", LG C3 77" or Samsung S95C 65" for roughly the same price (~2 180 Euro). I'm mainly watching series and movies via streaming services and the sofa is slightly more than 3m away from the TV. Before starting the research I was leaning towards getting a Sony as I have enjoyed previous year's version of that TV. However the discounts seems to be better for the other TVs, but maybe it's anyway worth to go for the slightly more expensive Sony. Would appreciate any advice!
Thanks for all your videos, I really like the s90c but I use it mostly in daytime moderately lit room, no direct sunlight or ambient light. Will this affect the black bars on this oled? Will they seem gray or is it okay to get this?
Are the remotes user friendly for watching OTA tv? Mainly jumping back and forth between two channels? Also, what are the Picture in Picture like for the TVs? are the pictures placed side by side or is one picture placed inside of another picture? Also, can the pictures be resized?
Congrats on the Best Buy sponsorship. You deserve it for the incredible work reviewing these TVs. Can't wait to see your comparison of the top line models for these three manufacturers!
Most of us miss the days of non bias flagship reviews not shilling midgrade hardware to clear Best Buys overstock. If we wanted to see Best Buys sale ad we would just go to their website...
@@Disneyforlife14non of these TVs are midrange
@@bigbadslimee1000 percent agree definitely not mid range by any means. All 3 of these TVs be great depending on ones needs. I hate when people say that about these TVs. That’s like calling a Ferrari 488 mid because it’s not a LA Ferrari lol. I have an A80K it’s the farthest from mid range. Recommended a C2 to my uncle it’s fantastic too. Now my X90J is probably a little closer to mid but you can notice the A80K just looks better for movies and gaming. Like noticeably. I would say SDR is close but that’s crap off a cable box and a lot of programs not shot in 4K.
Hi Vincent.
What's the best 98/97 inch tv right now?
Can you make a comparison?
If I want an 83 inch version which one should I go with for best value for money. I understand the 83 inch version of the Samsung is W-OLED so would the C3 be better in this case?
Hi Vincent, what's your thought on Samsung CU8000 tv?
Its a 4K LED panel with very thin bezels and the Tv itself is a very thin compared to Samsung's other models. Have you seen any panel heating issues in Samsung slim tv's? Because it can cause LED burning.
Great work thanks for just going to the facts but still looking hard at the QM8 and the U8K...
Hi Vincent! Could you please recommend the best 65 inch TV for upscaling blu rays (I'm not interested in HDR/4k) with the best motion processing on high. I used to own a Philips TV and with all the motion processing turned on it looked 3d. I know this is unpopular and I'm sure it will come with artifacts but I'd appreciate your help Vincent
I get so fried out watching all these reviews that I end up getting nothing. Then I'm like ok, I think this TV will work for me! Then you look at some more reviews and it's a whole new situation of you should wait for the next model that will drop early 2024... Guess Black Friday will probably be the answer... Lastly, thank you for stating above the LG C3 looks to be the best seller this year.
Same 😓 Super indecise among LG C3, Sony a90j, and Panasonic lz1500.
Did you end up getting anything, though?
@@WhiteCoCo1997 I ended up getting the LG C3
@@WhiteCoCo1997 same for me, but i have decided to go with the c3, in italy the samsung s90c and the lg c3 55 inches have the same exact price on amazon around 1149 euros!!!...My previous tv is an LG and after 4 years it still kicking and punching very well!!!!
@@NvikIngsN how you doing so far with the c3
@@josuexq Doing great. People really notice the deep blacks and all the other colors. If you're watching and old movie or anything badly made you'll see blooming. Otherwise it is great watching a TV where the pixels are their true color.
Long awaited comparison! Thanks Vincent
Does lg c3 still changes audio mode on internal speakers to game optimizer... whenever you do anything with hdr or game on pc ?
Just a quick observation. When I went to Best Buy yesterday…the only TV section whose TV’s that were on a timer to shut off at specific times every so often was the LG display wall. Also, the only TV on the floor with visible burn in was the s90c.
I was originally somewhat bummed that I was sent a gen 1 65" S90C from Samsung, but, man, this thing is wonderful. Absolutely beautiful for movies and while I have noticed the motion issues here and there, it really doesn't detract from the experience for me.
whats the differene between gen 1 and 2?
@@sicnarf6971twice as durable
How did you figure that out?
Try using custom option on the picture clarity setting/ motion. Set them both to 0 if you don’t like motion interpolation but it should fix the stutter issue
Have the same TV and also gen 1 based on reddit test. Movies look stunning on this TV; however, sports and other SDR content (HD in general) not perfect. I have found settings that I feel comfortable with that content though; thus, pretty happy.
Vincent, which tv would you choose from the 3 ?
Thanks 🙏 your reviews are spot on. Bought a mid-range LG 2 years ago based on your review, best TV ever. Now will get an 2nd one, C3.
Great comparison! Perfect timing for this holiday discounts.
Vicent can you make a video analysing and testing Samsung Smart Calibration feature vs profesional calibration on S95 OLED series?
Is it still impossible to disable TPC and GSR protection features via the service menu on LG C3?
Exactly the video I needed to make up my mind, thank you!
Hi LG or Samsung will be better for dark room ? I watch on 55 inches from a distance of 2 meters, thanks for help.
How do I find out which panel (1st gen or 2nd gen) I have in my 65inch s90c?
The total tech protection is exactly why i buy all my electronics from Best Buy. Thanks again Vincent! I'm wondering if the 83"A80L has different specs than the smaller sizes??
it does. The 83 A80L is an updated A90j. It has WLOD instead of QDLED
@vincent @hdtvtest, Thank you for putting this together and your other comprehensive reviews. I am looking for 77" or 75" for my Living room /Den. The room has dark out blinds and mostly used to watch through streaming services, occasional 4k / Bluray movies, no gaming. I have Apple 4k TV /Roku 4 connected through Denon receiver and 3.1 audio set up so TV O/S and audio quality doesn't matter. Viewing distance is around 12 ft and open kitchen layout so kids watch sometimes from the dining table (at some angle). Given the prices are fairly similar between 77" S90C / 75" Sony X93L / LG C3. Which one would you recommend? Thank you in advance.
I'd say get the S90C - it's the best value TV on the market right now. You might have to deal with some software quirks here and there - the C3 would give you a more polished software experience and probably more accurate colours OOTB but you have a risk of getting a panel with some uniformity issues like banding or pink tint - that's the reason I would go with QD-Oled but if you only watch with ambient light present, it's probably not gonna be noticeable.
@@floz9718 Thanks. I am worried about the long term reliability of QD-Oled as highlighted in rtings review / comparison. Its a tough decision.
S90c is so over-looked 🔥. For its price/ features. I cant see a reason why not. They're all magnificent Tvs either way you choose.
Samsung doesn't support DTS Audio nor Dolby Vision
Amazing and thorough comparison as always! I've read comments about the S90C having sub-par motion processing compared to Sony and even LG, as well as you mentioning the same briefly. Is this particularly for 24fps content, or is it just overall? I tend to run my displays with all motion processing off; so wondering if all 3 manufacturer would be on about the same level regarding native OLED motion performance.
Also, even with all motion processing turned off, is there some proprietary base motion processing going on which differentiate them at the most basic level? Like watching a rock-solid 60fps broadcast..shouldn't they look about the same with absolutely no motion processing on?
LG and Sony have better Chips
I own 65 inch s90c. I have all the artificial stuff turned off, like dynamic contrast, picture clarity, sharpness, etc. What I can say is HDR looks stunning. SDR, including shows and sports, is not perfect. I have found settings that I have applied to that content and it is still great, but not perfect. In short, if you mostly into movies, you will love this TV. Not to mention, it is rather cheap these days.
I just got the Samsung s89c 77 inch tv and wow it’s amazing. The price was too good to pass up at 2000. It’s a weird tv because there’s absolutely no reviews but apparently it’s an LG c3 panel. The tv is absolutely spectacular. It has all the features I want too. The best blacks and 120hz at 4K for some great PC gaming
How is it for movies without Dolby Vision?
Do you have any motion issues? in regular viewing or game mode? also Are you pleased by the overall brightness.. or do you see it look dim with certain scenes?
Just ordered my s89c to swap for my s90c at Best Buy. The 5yr BBY warr is $100 less also! It’s the SAME TV … sans the feet cover …. Amazing how all the tech reviewers completely “missed” that one … best tv value of the century so far.
Dolby Vision not a concern for me, I’ve always blocked it since top calibrators I like prefer HDR10 for creators intent. Still lots of issues with DV … and all titles have an HDR version, it’s the industry standard. HDR10+ is also available in most content.
DV all marketing fluff imho.
@@GGg-ic9ku the picture quality is identical to the S90C? I just got the S89C too and was just wondering if the S90C was any better
@@JaredSchumaierI go by what the expert tv reviewers say like Vincent here, Caleb Dennison at digital trends (he confirmed with Samsung it’s the 77 QDOLED panel) he replied in comments in a recent video I replied to. It’s the same processor per Samsungs website - Best Buy is huge and does special exclusive deals occasionally.
There is an AAA Samsung affinity discount many have gotten the s90c for 1800 with warranties - only other way to get this tv cheaper. A lot of work though. I’m happy with Best Buy and only warranty that says burn in covered that I’m aware of in USA.
not gonna lie i feel like you've done more thorough testing comparisons in the past..i was looking forward to learning how you analyzed the processor in each with different contrast moving tests as im still debating which i will buy this week....tell best buy to pay you more!! lol
What one did you get?
Hi vincent, question do you take features like dolby vision and hdr10+ into account when you choose a tv? We run our content off an nvidia shield and would really want a tv thats great in dark scenes but we arent sure how important it is to get dolby vision or hdr10 plus.
Dolby vision isnt even comparable to hdr10 + . You want dolby vision for shur. Im done buying samsung tvs
@@coalregionrider6525lol 🤡
Nvidia shield doesn’t support hdr10 plus. Neither is much different at TVs current capabilities. Instead choose the tv that you best like and value.
I bought a Sony A80CJ and S95B last year and compared them side by side. People kept saying that Dolby Vision wasn't a big deal. I tried it out on shows that supported it, like LOTR and Obi-Wan. It does make a noticeable difference. I actually kept the Sony over the Samsung and that was a big factor. The S95B had some really vibrant color and such, but in the dark scenes with lightsabers in Obi-Wan, it was clearly a noticeably worse image overall with a lot of detail lost in the dark and some wacky things going on. Maybe if you compare TV's with just blu-ray and consoles that might be one thing, but with streaming TV the Dolby Vision definitely makes a difference in shows and movies.
@@SquatchOut huh Lotr is in hdr10 plus
Hey Vincent! I know you probably don’t have the s95B in house anymore, but from your e patience with both. Would it be safe to say that they are essentially the same television?
I watched your s90c review and it seemed like it was primarily software adjustments rather than anything significant. Primarily detail retrieval vs brightness.
As long as you don’t have the latest firmware that nerfed the S95B. Otherwise yes, it’s near the same.
Never buy a Samsung first gen product. Trust me on this.
@@deanwilliams433Is the samsung s90c 55" a first gen product?
@@mbz4652 technically no, the S95B is. It takes Samsung 2-3 years to work out the kinks in new tech. Sometimes less due to the volume they sell.
Great analysis and channel, thank-you.
Got my 83 inch LG C3 last week. I’m hooked
Great review Vin, but I wish you had review all 3 tv's on the Auto dimming chapter instead of redirecting us to a general auto dimming issue. Actually the Auto dimming, ABL and image retention are the most important topic to discuss, review and side by side comparison when it comes to OLEDs, far better that picture review if you ask me, after all...almost all reviewers at the end they say that You can't go wrong with any current oled tv regarding the picture quality. However, you are the only reviewer here in CZcams ho actually test and review at some degree the Auto dimming, ABL and image retention. Anyway I'm very satisfied with your reviews in general, please keep the good work! 👍
i was looking for this content as well. i would love to see a comparison of what is achievable between the C9 to current OLEDs as far as peak brightness and how aggressive auto dimming and ABL are on each, and which ones allow it to be disabled via a service menu. is there a spreadsheet of these anywhere?
@@reanimationxp I don't know, but surely you won't see that from other reviewers like Fomo or Brian tech Terrapy, they all obsessed with picture comparisons. they put some tv's side by side to see the picture differences and they called a day. no word on dimming, etc. Keep in mind if you disable that auto dimming and abl from the service menu you will get burn in, at least I'm shore that is what happened to my C8
I am confused in g2/s90c. Which should I take?
You said the 77 inch q90c almost always uses the q95c pannel. Did the first versions not?
I've been looking forward to this
Interesting prices.
Some of the same TV models sold global are almost 50% cheaper in USA than in EU & UK.
EU prices always include taxes which US prices don't. Of course they are still cheaper, but not by that much.
luck, my country has same as usa, or more cheaper , like Samsung QN90B 65inch has price $850 (promo) or S90C 55inch $1,400. and those price include tax.
@@hastawisuda2639which country? Malaysia?
@@slay3rgamingyt Indonesia.
how’s the uniformity on the LG C3?
These are all good TVs but I think a lot of it is just going to come down to how peoples eyes see the TVs, To me personally I think Sony’s TVs are the best but some people have a different opinion and that’s cool. Just go and look at them all in person and shoes whichever one suits your needs and looks the best to you.
vincent I tried to calibrate S90C on PS5 according to you MaxFFTML should be 900nits (ps5 that would be 15 clicks) and MaxTML to 1250nits (ps5 would be 17 clicks) but when I go to 15 clicks the symbol is still far from being invisible it takes 3 -4 clicks to be invisible.. are there measurment only for XBOX? (and yes HGIG was on and dynamic tone was off)
Do I need to watch the video or can I get a quick TL;DR version? Whats the best OLED right now? For home theater purposes. 65"
Sony A95L
Hi Vincent, can you do a video on Sony's Netflix Calibrated Mode and Bravia Core Calibrated?
Hi Vincent, Any lg c3 hacks to increase brightness.
Does Hotstar support Dolby Atmos on LG C3?
Hi!
Compare to C3 and A80L which is better in color accuracy and sharp crypsi, clear images and which one u recommend.
Sony.
So many caveats with each TV. C3 loses lighting during game mode. C3 apparently has very noticeable color banding in game mode. C3 has worse color uniformity, but a polarized screen which looks black in all conditions. C3’s screen will look like a mirror in some conditions. S90C will have very obvious macro blocking and artifacts when streaming or using low bitrate content. S90C has the sluggish menu and apparently less color accuracy. S90C may have raised black levels in ambient lighting like a CRT. A80L has lower input lag and aggressive ABL. Do you get the S90C for the insane pop and wow factor when gaming? Or the C3 for a better overall picture when streaming and less frustrating software? It’s like Sophie’s Choice trying to pick a mid-range OLED for me.
S90c for gaming picture. You can always change to google chrome cast or a tv box for software but you cant add more brightness to a tv.
I know, it’s fucking annoying. I don’t want to deal with returning a big ass tv when I find out it’s a piece of shit. Just to roll the dice again on one of the 2 remaining brands.
@@ChrisDavis333 Then go for the Mini LEDs or QLEDs
Good brief comparison between these very popular midrange models.
However, I miss Vincent's very detailed in- depth comparisons of two models he used to do. These were very helpful to decide which TV was the best for your needs.
He might do those kinds of comparisons again with the flaggship models - fingers crossed ;)
In the reviews you will find more details. Why do this again?
@@makoto5280 Different perspectives from different expert is useful, and having more information available from those experts is better for those who can understand it. Summaries are useful, but so is full coverage. Why not both?
@@makoto5280 Well, it's usually quite helpful if you have a perspective in relation to other models. If Vincent says:"Model X handles near black pretty good", for example, it would be helpful to know what exactly that means. How much difference does it actually make if you put it next to model Y.
When I bought my last TV (a 2020 model) he did those kind of videos to compare the models of the time. I was buying either the LG CX, Sony A8 or Panasonic HZ 1000 and Vincent's "vs- videos" were very helpful for that decision.
@@makoto5280 Vincent actually reveiled/found out more details quite a few times in the comparisons/vs-videos. Either because he went into more detailes the second time around or there was some kind of update in the meantime.
@@floz9718 The vs videos are not really good, because it doesn´t tell the story in real life. Better go for the reviews and details (and after that go in the store ask for filmmaker mode vs filmmaker mode). Comparisons are mainly useless. Specially because of camera, tints, details and so on. It doesn´t work well.
Perfect timing, my Sony 4K TV blew up last week after 8 years of hard labour, and I'm looking to now upgrade to an OLED...
what do you mean "blew up"?
@@fawkkyutuu8851Boom!! Like exploded.
@@fawkkyutuu8851Backlight issue I think. 6 red blinks...
My old LED still working Sony. I think it'll still work even another decade. BTW it runs 24x7 .
@@Q_QQ_Qsame I have a A8F 65" 4k OLED in living room and have left it on so many times on ps5 home screen, zero burn in. Got it in 2018, hoping it doesn't blow up lmao. What's wild is the 65" a8f is going for like $600 if you can find one in stock. While the 48" a90k is going for over twice that at $1,400.
thankyou for this ,we need the mid price oled tv comparsion or put them into a
tv shootout
For me as a movie lover, I think s90c is the best choice ,, far brighter with more vibrant colors .
If you care about sound, go with Sony.
@@yoyo-nf1wwif you care about sound, you should rather invest those extra $300 for a budget home theatre setup which will always be better
Go with Panasonic, or good old plasma tv, they have more accurate colors anyway
I like the idea of the screen is the speaker itself ; but sony target different white point which pushes strong blue and cyan on colors , I don't like that ,, if I wanna go sony I prefer to wait for 2024 for qd-oled .
@@1988josip not more accurate colors but more natural look capability due to their higher quality light , however the difference is small and definitely don't worth to sacrifice hdr for it .
What's the best for gaming on ps5 ..it seems prices are similar
Has the samsung TVs 's auto color space bug been fixed?
Looking at LG C3 vs Sony A80L? Uses are home theatre and streaming tv/movies/shows to be paired with appletv 4K and Sonos arc, sub and rear speakers.
Hey Vincent, I'm currently under the dilemma of deciding between the S90C and LG C3. My main concern is the lack of Dolby Vision in the first one. Is there any chance to get a comparison of S90C HDR vs LG C3 / Sony A80L with Dolby Vision? I've read that the S90C is superior to the LG C3, and the absence of DV is not an issue here because it won't make the LG C3 better. I just wanted to make sure that's the case.
I already bought LG C3 before christmas and now have opportunity to return it and get S90C for 100 euros less. Dolby vision does look great on netflix but I have no doubts HDR10+ on samsung does work well too. I'm having bit dilemma should I make the change as I game a lot with tv and more brightness and color is kinda nice even though LG C3 is enough bright for me as well.
It's particaly hard because I can't see anywhere in local stores these two models side by side to compare.
@@jcdenton868 Yeah, but you will be let down once you find out that netflix only supports HDR10 and Dolby vision, not HDR10+. You will be missing out on that feature. Why trade a C3 for a S90C in that case?
Hi, any updates? Which one did you end up with?@@jcdenton868
Great video as usual. With 2023 Oled's price drop,why has the price of the Sony a90k gone up by £100.00 in the uk? it makes no sense to me.
Because the model has carried over , A90K is a 2023 model
price drop? in my country it has gone up by quite a bit, even though our currency increased its value compared to the dollar...
And I'm still here. Trying to figure out what 48' LG to buy. Take C1 for less money for got C2 with risk that I may have overpaid for C1 panel with different CPU.
I've heard that 42 and 48 inch of C2 have same panels as C1. So where is point to take C2 over C1..
The LZ2000 is unbeatable. Can't wait what the MZ2000 will bring
the c3 only just now is entering eu market/poland. crazy high price compared to what I got c1 48" for on release date.
Since I got 48" c1 in 2021, there have been released plebnty of other oled stuff and monitors. I wonder if 48" lg c3 is still the best choice
Hey What's better 85 inch Sony x90l or 77 inch Samsung s90c?
How will I know if my 65" S90C will have the right panel or not before buying? Not sure what spec term to look for.
Impossible
check serial number
qd oled gen 2 : FX02
qd oled gen 1 : FX01
Just got a LG C3, love it. 5 full years of warranty from Costco.
I went for the LG C3, the picture may be better (after calibration) on the Samsung but after owning two I’m sick of the software and don’t think the build quality is worth the price. The Sony was out of budget
I can't decide between A80L or the C3. I can get both for similar price. I decided to pass on the G3 because the black levels aren't as black as previous G models like G2 and G1 or even GX. So, I can't decide between A80L ans C3 and need help deciding
The sony tvs sound great , I would go for the sony
The S90C from Costco comes with 60W 2.1.2 & OTS. That is the one!!!
Should I keep the 55" S90C I got (unopened) or return it and get the 55" LG C3 for $200 cheaper? I still can't decide.
No s90c better
Hey Vincent, can we get an updated version of the C1-3 series on PS5 settings, if they've changed at all? I just ordered a C2 and just want to know the settings on previous videos are still accurate from the expert. Or at least reply that everything from your C1 settings video is still accurate?
I spend hours on testing when I got my C2 about 3 weeks ago and I can say they're still correct. For HDR put it in HGiG, game optimiser preset, warm 40 colors, color depth 55-60. on black levels in the game optimiser menu lower it to 8 so the colors pop more. As for the default HDR calibration in the PS5 system just leave it all on automatic and adjust the white panels when the gray squares disappears, black all the way down. The absolute key is to switch the icon on the HDMI input menu to PC, that way you will unlock the full 4:4:4 color range
@@Ventus7777 doesn't the PS5 only have 8bit color? And the Xbox Series X 10 bit?
@@SEliteGuitaristim not sure but when I open the vrr information window it says that it runs at 12b when I put the HDMI as PC. It goes to 10b when it's in auto detect console mode
@@Ventus7777 I'll be sure to check when I get home in a few weeks from work. Thanks tho
@@SEliteGuitaristPC 12 Bit 48GB 4:4:4 , XSX 10 Bit 40GB 4:4:4 , (PS5 8 Bit 32GB 4:4:4 👎🤮) Like Vincent Said 👈
Vincent question here??? You said the s90c at 77 inches will use the same panel as the s95c 77 inch tv. So does that mean the s90c will have the same picture performance? The extra bits in brightness and the better blue light output???? If so I may buy right now for the cheaper price?
No, even though the 77" S90C shares the same panel as the higher end S95C, Samsung has limited the brightness on the S90C through firmware to match the smaller sizes.
Is there an update to motion through a firmware update?
I was waiting for final verdict at the end of the video, and what I’m getting is an ad for BestBuy 😂
Same, I am looking at all these tvs and need someone's professional opinion to help me decide. Lol
I can’t decide between lg or Samsung
This comparison comes pretty well on time now that we are almost in the 8th month of the year.
Manufactures had all the time to correct little software and firmware issues that degraded performance of quality.
Finally we see OLEDs with proper EOTF tracking and a lot less black detail crushing, it is like they left the child shoe and are wearing almost adult shoes on the OLEDs side of things.
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Could you make a little update on the G3 with all the new firmware update it got ? or maybe you wait for a comparison with the sony a95l ?
what was that game you were playing with the lg c3?
It sounds like if you use an Apple TV device you don’t need the “software” from Samsung so it’s the better tv BUT if you don’t use an external device like that then you’ll enjoy the LG more as its software is better….is that right? Also does the Samsung work with Dolby atmos if I want a badass soundbar?
Where I'm from there's only about a 50usd difference between the LG C3 and Samsung S95C. Which would you suggest for mostly Gaming and Movie use? Audio perfo not being a factor since I don't think most of us use the built-in speakers anyway.
Just ordered my C3 yesterday after maybe 50 hours or so of research, so far what ive found is the C3 is best for gaming and got better overall scores compared to the s90c on the Rtings website. Only bad thing is it doesnt have Gamepass built in and it only has ATSC 1.0 if thats at all important to you but you can always buy an ATSC 3.0 tuner seperately since you have 4 HDMI ports.
The c3 also has some Amazing almost gaming monitor like latency numbers at like 6 ms response time my 3000$ 35" HP Omen had a 5ms response time so i was impressed.
@legendz408 I'm starting to lean on the C3 as well as the s95c doesn't have dts pass through. So if I play a DTS blueray I won't have that audio. Unless I upgrade my receiver which only does 4k60hz. I also hear gaming perf is just easier and stable on the c3.
@@JLP627 it's on sale 100 bucks off, if u have a best buy membership you can get it 300$ off and the membership mid tier is only like 60 bucks and you get a 60 day return window. Best buy should hire me XD.
@@legendz408What about the claims of how it handles gradations? Does it look smooth or posterize in game mode or not noticeable?
@@JLP627 on Rtings it scored slightly below the samsung and Sony competition, I suppose it depends how well trained your eye is for that sort of thing.
According to the website I referred to 50% Green to 100: Green the LG scored a 6.0 as the s90c and the Sony a80l got 8.0 and above. And the 100% black to 50% blue it scored 8.0 while the rest scored a 10.
Thanks!!!
Bigger c3 or smaller a80l? (77 a80l is super expensive)
S90C is a software update away from greatness or even more issues. It’s always a roll of the dice with a new software update from Samsung.
Samsung doesn't last long .
I had a q90 samsung. Just stopped working randomly. Swear an update ruined it
@@jacko523hey I'm thinking to buy Samsung 55S90C.? Is it worth it? All the features and all good? Could you please reply?
Please guys help me on the final choice, i do watch so many sdr content like antenna's tv shows, than I play with my high-end pc.....should i go for the C3?
Got the Samsung. Those colors just pop so good.
I jut love Sony color and most important , for me, is upscaling. I have an xfinity X 1 box (1080p) and the Sony blows my mind sometimes with that signal. Waiting for Sony A80M. have the J series now.
I also have a 77” A80J.
Upgrade every 3 years sounds about right
@@unknownsource4359 How do you sell your old one? Moving a TV that big seems like such a hassle
I’m going to Best Buy this weekend.. stuck between s90c a A80L (77in). Going to be even split gaming, streaming, and movies. Plan to get a sound bar set up too.
Can’t decide which one tho!!
S94bd? Is that worth a look? I was about to pick up an s95b but this looks the same. Vincent, any news on this model?
It’s an S95B,But for BestBuy. As the Sony advisor at my bestbuy near me, I have discussed this with our Samsung advisor. Says the S94BD is essentially the S90C/S95C. He says 1599 plus a 300 gift card is a no brainer. Says the dumb one connect box and the few extra speakers on back are the only difference from 95B to 95C. Says those aren’t worth an extra 1400 at all.
Hello vincent, need ur advise plz, i am planning to buy lg c2 77 inch but i am not sure because of the dimming issue? Is it still the same problem or should i buy the sony a90j 83inch with extra 1000$ over the c2 77inch price? Need ur help, thnx
If you ever got a US sponsor for TV calibration, that would be amazing, though i realize how difficult that would be.
When are we going to get chapters in your videos?
Hi sir am confusing
Sony A80l OLED 65inch or Samsung S90c QD OLED 65inch which is the best tv please tell me
Not confusing at all. Samsung has the highest brightness but not as good color accuracy, motion and upscaling compared to Sony. Sony also has better speakers. If you value gaming due to low input lag and high brightness, choose Samsung otherwise go with Sony
I'll be looking out for the 77in S90c during Black Friday.
Same here! It is simply the best option out there.
Will a Fire TV stick bypass the Sony XR processor?
Did you figure out how to disable TPC and GSR on the LG 2023 OLEDs?
He mentioned in another video, that LG pushed an update which fixed the TPC from dimming HDR scenes. But, didn't sound like you could disable it entirely.
Would you get the 77” A80L or 77” S90C. Usage is 40% 4K streaming, 30% SDR sports streaming through FuboTV and 30% PS5 gaming. Tv will be in a basement with complete light control.
Prices on 2022 OLEDs are also good now.
Trying to get my Hand on a C2.
Hopefully the Autodimming will be adressed.
It probably won’t be unfortunately. However, I haven’t noticed the screen dimming some people talk about on the C2. Granted I use SDR 95% of the time, so maybe that plays into this. Regardless, even compared to a “much brighter” samsung qled I had this tv is definitely not dim. In low light viewing it can even seem too bright at times. Only two complaints are that due to OLED panel refresh rates in general, when streaming 24fps movies, there is minimal stutter in panning shots unless I turn up the motion settings to where soap opera effect happens. And 2nd…that the screen doesn’t handle reflections all that well, but that’s due to it being glossy which is better for PQ. Sort of a trade off and I’d rather it be this way anyhow.
It probably won’t be unfortunately. However, I haven’t noticed the screen dimming some people talk about on the C2. Granted I use SDR 95% of the time, so maybe that plays into this. Regardless, even compared to a “much brighter” samsung qled I had this tv is definitely not dim. In low light viewing it can even seem too bright at times. Only two complaints are that due to OLED panel refresh rates in general, when streaming 24fps movies, there is minimal stutter in panning shots unless I turn up the motion settings to where soap opera effect happens. And 2nd…that the screen doesn’t handle reflections all that well, but that’s due to it being glossy which is better for PQ. Sort of a trade off and I’d rather it be this way anyhow.
So what one is best?
Both 65’ for C3 and S90C are on sale on best buy for 1600$.
Do you guys think it will drop their price even more this year? Or when is the better time to buy a new tv?
Im wondering the same
@@theyouth9622I bought a C3 there was an extra discount in bestbuy for a couple of days for around 1470$
@@theyouth962255 inch is 1200 and right now for S90C
4-25-24 Costco 1350 w 5 year warranty on 65" S90C, I still opted to buy the C3 65" w 5 year warranty for 1499
My c1 goes like a dream❤
Should i not buy an oled if i play first person shooter games?
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Samsung qn90c 43 is 2300 AED ..in Dubai less than $700... Best deal so far since it's hard to get small size gaming TV at sensible price, c2 c3 42 48 inches are pricey
Where is available at that price? This would be helpful.