E-bike battery pack creation for Sparta Ion and Batavus for really cheap price
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In this video I´m going to show you how to create from scratch a full battery pack to repair/rectify or fabricate your own e-bike battery pack.
I used the famous 18650 battery cells, on my case I bought Liitokala cells because the reliability of them however you can use what ever you want for this propose.
For the 3D designs please refer to my profile in Thingiverse:
www.thingivers...
If you need more information/clarification please don´t be hesitated to contact me via email, comments or social networks, all the links in below:
Email: davideljeringa@gmail.com
Twiter: @davideljeringa
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Hi David. Realy good job. I use your 3D design to print battery housing, I manage to finish the battery and modify motor hub. Until now everything is working...on my desk :). Now I have to put everything on the bike
good job David.. thank you
a mi tambien me ha encantado, se un poco de ingles y de electronica por lo que entiendo bien pero tambien me gustaria subtitulos, sube porfavor mas videos de los avances con esta bici !
Hi David, I am building this battery, but don't understand why there are 3 cables on the charging cable. I can follow the positive- and negative connection via the BMS, but where do you connect the 3 cable?
same Question here. If I looked closely the grey cable wasn't connected, is that correct?
Thank you very much for the explanation and the STL files. It is very useful.
This is realy a very usefull video for diy. You gave a good explanation
Good Job! Going to do the same job on my Sparta soon. Thanks for alle the files and explanations!
Thank you, I've used your 3d templates and so far everything works fine, the action radius is a bit disapointing with 2000mah only 20km and then the BMS cuts out. Have to take a closer look how that's possible.
Amazing video! Great!!!
Me ha encantado, lo mismo te copio parte de la idea para una de mis bicis, aunque tendré que escribirte para que me ayudes con algun detalle que no he entendido por mi nulo nivel de inglés o eso o al siguiente video me pones subtítulos en castellano, o eso o te vas cambiando el nombre por "David the syringe" lo que tu veas. En cualquier caso, muy buen tutorial, good job, thank you.
Nice job, sister need new Batavus battery ,need lot buy stuff like spot welding
Hi, You can do also by yourself, I have a video on my channel showing how to do it. Just a suggestion.
Regards.
Which charger do you use?
I don't understand why you show first that you connect every plus with every plus and minus with minus, and then you only have plus and minus combined together,The charger does not charge my battery, there is a 30 amp resistor in the original connection, but i have more from this connection, could this be a problem?
Good Job! Can I buy a ready made one?
Dear David what brand and type of BMS do you use ? thank you in advanche
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hi why are the cables for light in the batterycase. they are not connected so it has no use to put it in the case
Hola, vivo tambien in de Nederlands, y me interesa una bateria para mi sparta elektrische fiets. Gracias por tu respuesta.
Hoeveel ampere zekering gebruik je ???
Where I can buy those battery(pack)?
The video is very inspiring, but please, how to open that banana battery case. I would be grateful for advice. Greeting.
I used a multitool and sawed the sides open. Be carefull: don't saw to deep or you will touch the batteries
Perfect job...and hacker.
Can I make a 7s3p the same way for my "ХВЗ Спутник 1979"? Will be nice long battery...
Hey David, I'm really interested in DIY'ing your Sparta Ion project along with your videos, but i feel like my own battery pack is still working fine, and I'd like to keep using it. Can i install a BMS in the same way as shown in this video, or should i be searching for a different solution?
Hey, I am looking for a solution too. The cells are good enough for me but the BMS is burned. Please let me know if there is any place to buy a BMS or the characteristic of it. No clue about what could work with this special li-ion battery. Please help me !!
@@rottelHQ Hey dude, just letting you know that I never got it to work either. I ended up buying 2 12v motorcycle batteries to run in series for 24 volts. Doesnt look nice, but it works! These bicycles are horrible and once the BMS breaks its basically over.
عندي دراجة من هدا النوع ويخصنا شرجور ولبراي ديال تحكم
Hello
Can you make a New Battery for my Batavus Padova Easy...? I pay for it....can you help me please
Hi
Please tell me which controler must be?
Thanks
Wondering if it is possible to replace the battery with Li-on (and bms) and just keep te original controller?
No, because part of the controller is embeded into the battery and bms, they already design that to avoid this easy solution.
Does someone print it out and made the battery holder?
Fantastic David!
Is the Brushless Motor Controller inside the same space that holds the new battery, but below the battery?
Yes, below the battery, if you check the video of the full ebike reparation you will see how every single item fit on this space.
Thanks.
DJ.
@@Davideljeringa Please replay ;-)
@@steki75 As I mentioned some years ago in the answer, yes the motor controller fits in the same spot than the battery, so order is battery, motor controller and then the wiring. Hope is clear enought
Can you make a battery pack for my sparta ion M Gear GL
Hi david i have a sparta banana accu 0003 and 1 0001 error if i fix the cell can i use this with extern controller or is not possibile? Thanks
What is the specification for the battery you used?
Hi Aston, The specs of the baterry that I replaced are: 24Vdc Ni-Mh 9000mAh-11000mAh (depend the year of the bike). The specs of thebattery that we create are: 24Vdc LI-ion 21000mAh, Nominal voltage 25.9Vdc. Current continuous 17,5A, Current peak around 500A.
I hope this info is good enough for you.
Hello David, Can we use the bike's original motor driver? Does the Sparta software accept new batteries?
Hi, not really, the problem on that bike is that the driver control is partially in the battery pack. It is design to avoid customers easy solutions.
Bedankt
@@Davideljeringa Thanks for your reply. Then it is necessary to overhaul the engine for the new driver, right?
Why you super them first in parallels? From 9:40 - 10:20
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Yes it's confusing
That is for balancing the 6 pack parallel batteries together, after all 6 packs are same voltage after waiting long enough (without using a charger), he will remove the wires on one side.
How much amp have the bms you use. Thanks
Дорогой человек. Сделай пожалуйста русские субтитры!!!
can you give me the sizes of the sparta ion battey pack to 3dprint
Hi Harold,
What dimmension in particular do you want? As you can imagine is a lot on the 3d design
Nice video but does it actually work and does the BSM manage the cell's correctly? Does the Ion software recognise the battery after disconnection? And can you still use the old changer? Still a lot of loose ends
Hi, The BMS it works as expected, it is controlling the overgarge and overdischarge as expected, the maximum voltage registered on the packs are 4.17Vdc avg, and the minimum is 3.78Vdc, so always between the expected levels to ensure the live of the batteries.
Yes, you can reuse the original Sparta Charger, is the one I use every day.
For your information the max range obtained so far was 135Km with one charge with medium assistance level and changing between med and low 178km, I charge the bike every week or so, very convenience.
Thank you for the comment.
El bms que compraste cual es????
Hola Sebastián,
Este es el bms que yo instalé: € 3,47 6％ dto. | 3S 4S 5S 6S 7S 15A limit 20A 18650 ion Placa de protección de batería de litio 12V 24V 29,4 V Li-ion Packs BMS con disipador de calor de equilibrio
a.aliexpress.com/_BU2CXx
Con respecto al inglés lo siento pero no dispongo de mucho tiempo para poner los subtítulos.
Si tienes cualquier duda por favor no dudes en contactar conmigo. Es un placer poder ayudar.
También podemos hacer una videoconferencia si necesitas más información, por mi parte no hay problema.
Saludos
Muchisimas gracias por tu respuesta ya compre todas las herramientas para hacerlo! Con respecto al bms he comprado el 7s de 29v esta bien? No m queda claro debido a que el enlace dispone de diferentes variantes a seleccionar, de nuevo gracias 🙂
Hola de nuevo,
Si en efecto el 7s 29v es el correcto si tu objetivo es crear una batería de 24Vdc.
Saludos.
Gracias 🙂, y finalmente dejaste la misma controladora o la reemplazaste tambien??
@@sebastianaguilar576 A que controladora te refieres? El controlador del motor? Si es eso no, he tenido que sustituirlo debido a la complejidad del sistema completo. Estoy acabando de editar el vídeo del motor, es ese podrás entender el porque de no poder reutilizarlo. Espero poder subirlo hoy al final del día.
He utilizado varios tipos pero los que mejor han funcionado hasta la fecha han sido los que no tienen display LCD, los de led son menos estéticos pero muy baratos y van de lujo.
Saludos.
podrias hacerlo en español !!!
what about registering the battery with the system, any idea on how to do that without going to official dealers?
Not. You are to open the hub motor, dispose of all the printed circuitboards inside, solder the three wires to the wires that come from the coils of the motor and close it again. Use a cheap Chinese e-bike controller like nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005001519752387.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dfrXLR3 (you see one in the background).
You can, but don't have to lead the hall sensor wires outside. It will work adequately without.
And you shall have to save more on the motor wire diametre than is good to get it all through the hole. But I know it has been done
You do need to use a PAS sensor on the pedal (in Holland that's law) or a throttle controller.
The torque-sensor on the rear axle that is used originally cannot be used without extra logic (which you have to design and build yourself)
@@josmeijer sorry think lind don't work, sajnos a link nem él 😞
Liitokala.. reliability. Nice joke from Aliexpress
Why go through all this trouble of creating battery and housing by yourself, better buy a ready to use aftermarket battery, like you buy China controller, its not much more expensive, because in the end you dont use the original BMS and controller but cheap China sensorless controller, that was a real dissapointment of this video. And i dont understand a word youre saying bro..😭
Hey if you are not so smart and want to spend your money in this way, please go ahead and let the smart people interact with each other bro…..🤣
@@Davideljeringa dont understand what youre saying bro...has nothing to do with intelligence, but i guess u dont have a lot of that😅👍 and if you are really that smart then why not build your own controller to wiseguy...
@@mathw2703 You can't even spell...