Why We’re Not Using the Term “Urban Dance” Anymore | STEEZY.CO
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- We discuss why we're not using the term "Urban Dance," and explain the context and history behind its misuse. To learn more, click here → steezy.co/noturbandance
Hey STEEZY Nation,
Thanks for taking the time to learn more about how our community is evolving!
We invite you to join us in promoting a culture of honor, respect, and authenticity by leaving the term “Urban Dance” behind. While “Urban Dance” was a term initially coined to give respect to foundational art forms like Hip Hop, the term was inaccurate at best and derogatory to many.
We’re excited to enter a new chapter of positive, meaningful growth by setting the record straight on “Urban Dance” and making space for terms that allow everyone to feel accurately represented.
This is important to us at STEEZY - which is why we work with Instructors who represent the culture of the dances they teach. We believe that teaching dance is, inherently, honoring history. From Popping and House to Whacking and Krump, each Instructor breaks down the moves - as well as the stories, roots, and people that these moves came from. See what that looks like on STEEZY Studio by clicking here: steezy.co/noturbandance
We welcome you to leave a comment, ask questions, and join the discussion below!
With Love,
STEEZY Squad
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Arnel Calvario @arnelcalvario
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i love how you express and talk so much about dance culture respectfully. we don't get to see it much these days. awesome video!
"Open style choreo" has a good ring to it. Makes the community sound like as it is: open (and welcoming). I dig it
i never understood why they started using the term urban. "open style choreo" says literally nothing useful. open style hip hop fusion choreo" would be more clear.
@@emhu2594 But a lot of times it's not even Hip Hop Fusion since it uses none of the hip hop fundamentals. Open Style / All Style is clearer. At most Hip Hop Inspired Choreo may be more descriptive
Please make a video on types of hiphop dance. I'm only 12 and have little knowledge about the genres and techniques of dance. But I enjoy hip hop, contemporary etc. I really wanna learn dance.
Let me just say, it's so awesome that you're taking an interest in learning the actual culture of hip hop! I think the best way to learn about the different styles of hip hop is to learn from someone who was alive or trained by someone who was alive during the 70's to 90's. But, that's not an option for everyone of course. 3 big ones are locking, popping, and breaking. It's also worth it to learn a little bit about krump and house because they're pretty "adjacent" to hip hop. I hope this is helpful!
Hi, I would follow the recommendation to look or ask Moncell Durden, also it's important to understand the history cause HipHop dance it's a dance form that is danced on hip-hop music, the first dance form of Hip Hop culture is breaking and they dance on breaks and funk initially, popping and locking were before Hip Hop. Understanding that might help to have a cleaner path of what you want as a dancer and enjoy better the journey. Blessings!!
I know you're older now and may have the answers, but for Hip Hop dance check out Beyond the Moves CZcams series 'Hip Hop dance foundation'. 13 Great Videos on all things Hip Hop. Buddha stretch is also a good teacher too.
Just adding a major PART 2 to this:
This was a great informational video, and I appreciate you guys having done this. However, you missed out the part of the large scale commercial exploitation of the hip-hop name by the studio dance industry. What I'm more specifically referring to isn't the earlier generation of hip-hop dancing teams who gradually integrated parts from other dance styles into their routines. I'm referring to the wave of professional studio choreographers and instructors with ZERO hip-hop background who decided to bank on the hip-hop name.
Once hip-hop (the social dance style, not the breaking style) began to see itself more and more in dance competitions and music videos, jazz and ballet dancers wanted to get in on that hype. So you had white jazz and ballet choreographers and instructors with absolutely no hip-hop knowledge, technique or connection to the hip-hop culture and community who decided to copycat some of the moves and poses of hip-hop dances and funk-styles into their jazz/ballet routines, and then market it as "hip-hop dance" to aspiring dance students who don't know any better. In addition to this, they were also teaching these routines to everything BUT hip-hop music (r&b, pop, contemporary jazz, etc), which only intensified the misinformation. All this happened on a MASSIVE scale, and as many of us know, the dance lesson / fitness-dance studio industry is where the most money is at (this dwarves the money made by back-up dancers and music video choreographers). This is by far one of the biggest forms of cultural appropriation and exploitation that many people are NOT aware of: the milking of the hip-hop name by posers for money, money, money.
Hopefully you guys add a new video featuring this information!
Love this breakdown of the evolution of hip hop as a label into urban and why it has always been problematic. It's true-- our dance styles are ever evolving due to the mass amount of personal individual expressions but staying true to the roots in a socially responsible way is KEY! And also-- shout out to the Filipino-American Community for really contributing so much to how the styles of hip hop have grown, expanded, and have been exposed to so many--- Me included!! Those Filipino Culture Showcases circa early 2000's THO 👀 !!! 🔥 🔥
Thanks so much STEEZY ♥️♥️♥️ I am now more confident on doing my own dance style. ♥️♥️♥️
Do you freestyle or coreography. Or both?
@@Enzo-wx3vw I do both. ♥️
@@ZALDYTV wow that's great ❤🔥
Thank you for this information! I'm glad to be entering a community that motivates awareness and cultural respect, and I'm glad to support a company that makes all of it known and accessible. Love yall!
Thank you so much for including informational videos! A lot of times I find my self around dancers that just don’t expend their understanding in what they are doing and therefor teaching and sharing it. And here I am in one click can share right and good information to dancers around me :)
THANK YOU FOR OPENING UP THIS TOPIC! MUCH LOVE! ❤️
omg yay i've been waiting for this video. thank you so much for sharing!
Would absolutely love it if ya'll make more videos regarding the history of different dance styles and dance in general. Is something I always felt like I missed out on when a friend from some dance team would talk about all that they've learned about the history and why things developed the way they did.
Thank you for this video! I recently watched a video from Luam, and she was discussing the use of the term Urban in dance. It is great to see this move through the dance community.
"Appreciate your own style" , bec ur on ur own, love ur style and love urself so you can express ur self and show it to the world, loud and proud!!!dance has no language,..❤️❤️❤️
Thank you Steezy for this video. I was really strugling to find a word, a definition to label this dance style, but there was never one. Now that i know that its "open style dance" i can finally undestand it without getting confused with other uses to the same word. Im really happy about it and glad about all of this.
Been waiting for the big overall explanation and what to call the dance style 👌
Thank you so much for this helpful and insightful topic ! So well done too
Respect! STEEZY is an amazing platform and that carries a huge amount of responsibility too. Thank for for helping educate us new to the culture!
Thank you so much for this knowledge and letting people know about this finally someone talked about this🙏🙏 No matter what you dance you just have to just enjoy. And respect all. That's what DANCERS do live for respect and fight for respect. Amazing work STEEZY STUDIO and Thank you too.
thank you steezy for this video! you should make more videos regarding each dance style story, so that we can appreciate what we dance more. i'd really love to learn more about it.
AMAZING VIDEO! THANK YOU SO MUCH... We need more of these
Thank you steezy so much ,i am actually a teacher in a studio here in UAE na I've been scared of teaching hiphop classes so thats why my coach a teacher as well in the studio explained me why we dont use the word "urban dance" anymore and we exchanged the name of the classes to open style choreography ,its though that student don't come often since they don't know what is "open style" or this new term for "urban" but I'd rather respect the culture of its history or the community, rather than putting "urban dance" and will disrespect the community ,thank you so much for the explanation
Well, shit, this is one of the best videos from Steezy. So much information. No doubt Steezy is my favourite dance related CZcams channel.
Thank you STEEZY this help me so much and now i have way more information for my school assignment this helped me so much. And thank you for bringing my confidence up for dancing my own way.
Thankyou so much for this knowledge steezy.
Just out of curiosity, Arnel explained that the Philippino identity was tied to hip hop culture. Lots of other Asian-pacific or Asian decent CZcamsrs/icons (Tim Chantarangsu, Jimmy Yang, etc.) have similar stories of tying hip hop to their upbringing. What specifically about hip hop was relatable or seemed so appealing to the Philippino culture? Thanks for the great content and for educating me through this video 🙏
*Filipino
And a lotta Filipinos relate to the feelings of colonial oppression, poverty, and artistic expression/authenticity as either a distraction, or an outlet for their expression/identity. Tie this into a close relationship with the US after the Spanish/US war/WW1&2 (lotta cultural exchange), plus late immigration due to the Marcos dictatorship (Philippines had a thriving disco scene in the 70s/80s), it's really not far off from how hip-hop gained popularity in other marginalized communities, it's just that all these characteristics are present with the filipino diaspora that let to their involvement in the movement.
Imho I'd say it has most to do with the 20th and 21st century american experience, esp pertaining to inner city peeps and pop culture, no matter the ancestry/ethnicity of the communities, as hop hop culture has touched everyone world wide and is born from the US. that's why its the unite-r, "the healer" ;). But its always interesting to see how it specifically speaks to or has touched communities.
hiro progatonist filipino*** my bad 😬
Talking about being poor or having a bunch of people in the house. The old TV being the stand for the new TV. I’ve always loved hip hop.
Genuine reply bc I want to learn, and agree with much of what you say/ what's behind what you say. Given that hip-hop OGs had actively discouraged use of "hip hop" when referring to their communities, how might the community had paid homage/respect to those roots while distancing themselves from it? Secondly, as far as I understand it, the socal "urban" style is distinct from true hip hop in 1)the medium of exchange 2) music choice 3)presentation and focus on groups' competition 4) focus on choreography rather than freestyle 5)explicit blending of other forms of dance/approaches that hiphop shunned. Given that these differences are necessarily tied to the experiences and choices of non-black POCs (whether culturally isolated as immigrants, or relatively privileged as 1st/2nd gen college students), how can they honor/pay tribute to black culture while acknowledging the reality of its origins. I think dropping "urban" is a step in the right direction, perhaps having more black perspectives all those years ago might have helped but the scene/style has grown incredibly popular and influential to the point that a "hard reset" might be impossible - I can see why they've brought Arnel on as he was likely the "genesis" of the whole movement with kaba and he can't speak for other community's experiences, but I do wonder if there's a perspective we're missing out on. Your thoughts?
Loved knowing more about the history behind how the SoCal dance communities started. Kudos to everyone for taking the responsible steps forward for dance ♥️
Day by day i am learning a lot from Steezy's videos. ❤❤❤
learned something new today! thank you so much for this informative video 🙏🏻❤
Super informative!! Thanks y’all!
I was hoping that you would discuss this topic, thanks!
This has to be the best video from y'all. While it's important to learn technique, discover expression and all of that goodness, knowledge and respect for the culture and roots is sometimes neglected and even lost.
Growing up, EVERY bboy/bgirl knew their history (if you didn't, you weren't a bboy/bgirl) and it honestly adds SO MUCH to who they are especially as individuals. When it comes to the choreo scene, y'all have history and culture and it continues to thrive! So keep doing things like this that allows for this culture to grow. Remind everyone who comes along that this came from something genuine. Each one teach one. Much love to y'all for real.
Proud Pilipino here 💖 Thank you STEZZY! This channel deserve 10 Million plus subscriber 🤟
THANK YOU for TAKING the TIME to MAKE this ITS VERY IMPORTANT 💯.......to ALL the DANCE LOVERS out thier💃🕺💯🎶💋🤩😎🌹
THERE
Thanks a lot for sharing this I didn't know about the Philippine culture I will share it with pleasure and I really want to thank you because with your jobs you are growing the entire community all around the world 🙏🙏 (sorry if I do mistakes I'm French)
Great video! Watched your video about not calling Open Style Hip Hop, but calling it Urban Dance. I talked with my bf afterwards about how unsure I was to use the term Urban due to its negative connotations. Very much appreciate learning about this! It's important to me to honor & appreciate other cultures VS inadvertently appropriating dances that I really love.
Wow! This is very interesting. Urban as a negative term is new to me… I’m very curious about this and need to ask some dance historians in the African American vernacular dance forms.
thank you, great video, super helpful!
I loved itttt, please do more videos on the history of different styles of dance
Thank you for this one steezy ! I even learn something about my culture that i dont even know . I will stop using that term from now on .
great video, so educational and really well broken down
Thanks guys. This is important 🙏🏽
This was informative! I grew up in the bay area during the 90s and I saw strong ties between hip hop culture and the fil/fil-am community but did know how any of that history, especially related to dance.
I LOVE THESE HIGH QUALITY EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS. I'M GOING TO WATER MY CULTURE ROOTS NOW, YES 🙇♂️
Evolution, social responsibility and growth, yessssss!! Thank you for making this video 🧡 and for contribuing in this way to a kinder, and more thoughtful respectful world 🍀 Hope you're all safe and well 🌻🌻🌻
I remember my friend from UC Santa Cruz was part of Kapamilya. They had culture night and modern dance and I was wondering how this all started. It was nice to know this.
Very informative and very true each and every word of this video
Respect, u give people educated. Many people think in a wrong way coz they dont know about this culture. Respect the OGs, learn the history..that how we done it from the beginning
Been dancing for half my life here in the 🇵🇭 and I’m pleasantly surprised by the Filipino origins combined with the American influence of many of these styles and events that I’ve been following for all these years. Thanks so much Steezy 🤗
Yesss! Thank you kuya Arnel!
This was such a great way to present it with the visuals, culture, and history! My question is: how do you spread enough awareness to educate dance moms who want to enroll their 7 year old kids in “open style” but only know to look for “hip hop” classes? Of course, most of them may not even know the correct dance terms so they might not go into studios that do not offer “hip hop”. What would be a good approach to this?
I love this question and would love an answer. I teach "studio hip hop", and only call it that because no one in my area would know what open style is.
Ash I’m the same way but I use the term “studio hip hop” for the parents then educate my students on correct terminology
@@AnselFirmalan I do that as well. We learn a bunch of different styles and go over the history and such with each one.
Great video, guys!
Yeah, thank YOU STEEZY for clearing the waters about this topic. LOL
Love,
Cristina
Well done steezy! This guys sun shinny intelligent being :). I always danced a fusion of styles growing up, and heavily influenced by breaking and hip hop dance, but it never felt right to even term it hip hop to me, and I certainly never was around peoples saying urban dance though I heard of it used before, never made sense to me. Fusion makes sense to me. Thanks!
wow that was very educational and well presented thanks for that guys! salamat kuya for your knowledge 👏👏👌
Hi Steezy! I think "open style choreography" sounds good but I also have a few questions.
1) So, you mentioned about Filipino-Americans having hip hop as a part of their culture and then further created their own community of "open style" dance which (how I am processing the info you stated) took the form and creation of dance crews in southern cali, as well as some being taught in studios. What would you call choreographed pieces of dance that were not created by the Filipino-American community, like the ones we see in movies and music videos, that are more in the Hollywood and entertainment dance industry? edit: in the 90s and early 2000s
2) How many choreographers did you have involved in this discussion to change the usage of the term "urban" to "open style"? was it only people in southern cali or internationally? edit: today era
black people didn't got robbed. Lol
cuzits cuza yes they did where is their credit
are you talking about choreographed pieces that were made during the same time as the creation of urban dance (so 90s/2000s)? or are you talking about in general, including today? because urban dance has become so popular internationally that anyone can do it, you dont have to be Filipino-American to create urban choreo. I havent watched the whole video so idk entirely what Arnel is saying about Filipinos and urban dance, but urban dance isnt strictly a Filipino-American thing, urban dance (that is, a blend of styles from diff cultures) may have been created by Filipino dancers but it def isnt something that only they can do
Argentum Silver yeah sorry should have clarified! My first question refers to the 90s and early 2000s and my second question refers to now
Handy Sandy Hi, I understand what your saying and I agree with the last part of your comment (which how I perceive it) that how are they going to just change a term they’ve been using out of nowhere which at this point has now been used internationally, that was the point in my second question. However, I also respectfully disagree with the first part of your comment because I feel that they have clearly stated and credited the black culture not only in this video many of their other videos and even if they didn’t outright credit us (which would be pretty messed up) hip hop has such a strong connection to black culture that I think other people would at least have the common sense to clearly see that “urban” or “open style” dance is mainly inspired by hip hop and (depending on the person choreographing it and their life experience) other styles of dance intertwined
This is needed to be known by everyone
I never ever regarded the term „urban“ as a politicaly correct word for the n-word.
In my country it doesnt even make sense. The term was by the way only used in bigger cities. Everywhere else most ppl only knew Hip Hop, without knowing the origins and the four most important parts.
I personly regarded the term as a sign for knowing what does and what doesnt belong to Hip Hop
thank you so much for introducing that the Philippine culture is unique and wonderful and one and the same because we have a saying that one for all, all for one so I am very grateful that you paid attention to the Filipino culture so thank you very much☺️👌🇵🇭
Steezy, salamat..
More of these please
Very good insight into the SoCal scene... The only thing I find confusing is that it‘s only talked about what is not Hip Hop without explaining it first. Of course everybody can do their own research, but I just think it would be easier for people who are new to this discussion.
i appreciate this
Thanx sir 🙏🙏🙏
Ths is so brilliant
Thank you that you noticed our Country, lovelots
Proud Filipino dancer, here!!!
Thank you
Love it. Love urban❤💯
watching from Philippines
Buddah stretch addressed this year's ago and people are still confused its so crazy
5:13 that was a nice move!
Finally!
Sir/ ma'am, if we mix any style it will be called open style dance??
❤️I like it (open style)
WATER THE ROOTS!❤️🙌🏽🙏🏽
man.. i have a looot of questions
for the pinoy out there, goodjob👍 your country has born many outstanding dancer👍😊🇵🇭 sorry for my bad english from malaysia🇲🇾
I truly respect that y’all did this. I believe MTV had a part in this. In the 90s they labeled aliyah the princess of HH and Beyoncé the queen of HH. No disrespect to either artist but they are R&B not Hip Hop. It’s like labeling all Asians Chinese or Latinos Mexican. It’s a way for a certain demographic in America to lump people together so they can be more comfortable with what they find abnormal.
Proud Filipino here ♥
Now we know 😍😍😍
🇵🇭🇵🇭 represent !!
Many OGs from all style compet corrected the term "All style" to "Open Style" because in battles, dancers use a particular dance style that is why it's called as "Open Style" so that dancers compet with different specific dance style. All style is where a dancer utilizes different dance styles in a particular round. Some choreographers claim "Urban" be changed as just "Choreography"
Can someone explain to me with a "basically" on how to differentiate hip hop and urban?
It's all clear now.
is there any difference between open style and all style dance
THIS IS EDUCATION
4:05 had no idea asian greeks had a big part in the scene. Pretty good bit of history there!
They said it.
Hey STEEZY, I don’t know if you guys already considered this style of dance but if you haven’t could you add afrodance as an addition to the list of your dance styles. Personally I’m not sure if it is called Afrodance since that would be a bit generic for a continent that has a lot of countries with many dance styles. But anyways I’ve been seeing afrodance in a lot of choreographies that aren’t Afro centered and personally I’ve been wondering if I could learn straight from the choreographers that teach them and learn about its styles and some choreo which also exposes us to music from other countries. I feel also a good exposure to others that are new dancers to also know that it’s an option to learn when they first start out. I don’t know it’s just a thought. I’ve seen this Belgium instructor that teaches it on Instagram @jenybsg (I’m not sure if she speaks English) but she seems like a great teacher. This was just to throw an idea out there anyways thanks for the other amazing videos and lessons you have provided on steezy.
I really enjoyed watching this video, and I wanted to ask: if studios run by black and brown people use the term “urban dance” is this still considered disrespectful or offensive?
But black people invented hip hop, so Brown people don't really have a say in if urban dance is respectful or not.
would like to know this as well
@@carlissiawilkins4432 if a black person is NOT doing hip hop, they cant call it hip hop, i feel like you missed the point.
i wish the vid had done more on the term they replaced with, was it "open dance." how is that successfully descriptive?
bout damn time
Hi, I'm a father of 3 kids. I love dancing since i was a kid... But i don't know how to make a choreography... 😢😢😢
I HAD NO IDEA FILIPINOS HAD THEIR IDENTITY TIED TO HIP HOP. LIKE I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A COMMON INTEREST, NOT A CULTURE THING OMG IM SHOOKED. This was a very nice video btw :)))
Am Me oh!! Thank you for clarifying!
I’m with you. The more I read some of these comments, the more upset I get. Hip hop is from the black community. Urban is a word that has been associated with black music. Our culture is being appropriated not just by white people but by other people of colour as well, smh.
@@Oma918 and anyone else who cares. So for dancers dancers who love hip hop /open styles who are not black how would they not appropriate this art form you think? Should they not dance it at all or is it really about credit? Or do you think there is a way they can they give proper credit lift up and highlight the community that birthed it in a way that does not steal but honor and keep that lineage awareness alive? People don't generally respect history but maybe they could. Do they they need to make a statement/history lesson before each choreography video or performance every time? Or does it mean that they should abandon the dance style altogether because to dance it is to appropriate it? I think it's very important to give proper credit. In martial arts for example, I think depending on the studio you would learn the cultural origins and the lineage to honor the work in development that they people who created the form worked hard to develop and then students later benefit from this work. Maybe it's the fact that ancestoral respect is lacking in our western culture in general. The distinction between inspiration and homage and outright stealing of credit should be taught IMO. I am just trying to think of practical real ways to do it. What do you think and what would you like to see change?
Ohh thanks for this Knowledge Btw I'm a Filipino and a Dancer
lmao what does this mean for "Urban Dance Camp"
change the word urban for street
@@2010josem i don't think it's a better term tho
@@amilliev.6131 why?
I am "brown." I see nothing wrong with the terms "urban" and "street."
Yay. Sino pilipino here?
please comprehend, that this is not "YOUR" style as many people who participate in this dance THEY did not CREATE, therefore they are STUDENTS of those styles, even if we are mixing (fusion) styles its still come from a linage of popular movement which eventually caused people to give it names to better differentiate one style/step of dance from another, even though one that has studied many styles is aware that different cultures might do a the same step but in a different interpretation. To really "honor" the pioneers would be to go to them learn the style as some of them are still alive, but many students choose to learn from students cause it is "easier." as most "teachers" today are just instructors, and sharers, and don't take the time to learn about they dance styles they do or participate in the culture or know the names of the steps or how it even came to be that way. To honor pioneers would be to send them money just because people are doing the style they help create, but most people do not do that. I write that so hopefully someone can see this comment and comphrend that would actually be to love the culture. Not many people have past the pioneers skill level, therefore it would wrong to say "evolve" as most people struggle doing pioneer classes, doing their variations and then coming up with their own variations (flavor), their should be no reason pioneers should be broke af for dance styles they helped create, I say all dance style cause all dance style have some kind of technique, even though the system lies and trys to separate technical dance vs street dance, as street dance has a technique as well, hilarious. One, Love the Human DNA.
wholeheartedly agree. In the case of what Steezy has done with this video and other videos on their platform/service do you believe they're taking the appropriate steps in the right direction? This is coming from someone who learned street dance and then eventually got into the dance team/choreography scene. So I see the disparity between the two, especially in the income inequality of "professionals" respectively.
@@LuvinxDxAzns This vessel does not hold weight to make such an option, since I'm a student of this dance as well. I will say this, how many pioneers have yall seen on steezy? then again I don't know maybe steezy is using the money they make and giving it back to the communities/pioneers that actually make the dance, since we do not know this information we can only spectate. Remember in the comment above the system like to trick people into categories such as technique dancers and street dancers even though ALL dances had to come from the street before they could be codified. A dancer is just someone who moves to the music on beat in different ways that it, it is not a style, as a style is way of doing something an interpretation to a certain music within a culture. If you wholeheartedly agree that it would make sense to put the money there as most of the instructors today are just students from those pioneers. Even if yall are just making choreography if the movement comes from an influnece from style that already exist why not study those styles people are trying to do. I comphrend also that some pioneers don't support what steezy is doing but regardless steezy instructors/staff should give the names of those people so at least kids have a choice if they want to seek them out or not.
BCD studio - Baby
Can anyone explain the specific reasons that "urban" became a slur? Because I just watched a video by Steezy explaining to not call certain things "hip hop", call it "urban" instead. ??? They say very general things in this video but the only thing I retained is that it is upsetting to "black and brown" people. I still don't understand why exactly, and I would like to.
Proud to be a Filipino