Case IH 475 Speed Tiller vs John Deere 2680H High Performance Disk Episode 40
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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2020
- It's Tillage time! This episode is all about fall tillage and is full of drone shots. We start with a Case IH 2500 Eco-till then its on to the showdown between the Case IH 475 Speed Tiller vs John Deer 2680H High performance disk. After that we check out The Environmental Tillage System Soil Warrior strip-till and the Case IH 870 disk ripper
Very informative video with some really impressive tools! Thanks for taking time to share this.
Simply awesome footage!! You'll work really hard!! Your dedication is immense. When the kids know what it is to tillage the fields you know your raising them right.
It is always fun comparing equipment. You always learn something new.
For sure
For sure
Nice...super cool drone shots of the drag unit.
Fall tillage, my favorite!! Interesting to see the difference between the speed disks... I was most impressed with that ripper!! Whole lot going on with that rig.. I've personally never seen rolling baskets on a ripper... I'll bet that thing pulls really hard!! Thanks for all the hard work y'all do to inform us on what it takes to grow a good crop! Good luck on 5k subscribers... You're getting close!!
Yeah love that thing
Disk, rips then smooths back out making it easier to handle in the spring
@@iversfarms I seen them at the farm equipment show in Louisville last winter but never used one in the field. The big one is a 33 foot isn't it? I have a 9620 JD with duals all the way around that is 620 HP and I have a 9630 JD on tracks but only has 540 HP. I wonder if I have enough HP to pull it with my 9630 Tracks and I wonder if I have enough traction with the 9620?
@@americasdream1265 I was thinking 26 foot was as wide as they made the ripper but could be wrong. I’m sure your duels would be fine and the other tractor will pull it. Just might have to pull it slower and or shallower
Awesome drone footage
Hi from the uk,been watching your videos over the last few months and as an owner driver find them very informative the way you compare different brands and the reasons behind purchasing a particular machine,quite a set up you’ve got over there,hope you succeed in growing the subscribers👍Way better than some of the other you tubers that are just advertisements for stuff.
Thanks for that and I’m happy you like them. Sorry I missed your comment somehow
You do really good videos...good information!
Thank you
Love the videos. I am currently in southeast Texas but originally from West Salem IL. I miss helping my grandpa John Strine farm. I know the area yall farm and love seeing the Wabash and cannonball Bridge. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and I’m glad we can bring a little piece of home to you
Hey guys, good to see y'all again. Harvest is done for us finally. We use 2 Challenger MT875E'S pulling 2 John Deere 2730's 9 shank combo-rippers over our corn ground. We use our Case IH 580 quadtrac with a John Deere 33' 2660VT on our soybean ground. Our in line ripper is an 11 shank Blue Jet. Always enjoy your videos Ivers Farms. 👍👍
We sound pretty similar
We had two rippers dueling in a field but didn’t get any video of it.
We mostly use those on rutted up stuff or corn on corn
Late reaction as I just discovered you guys. You were talking about the tiller but I would like to point out that the 4-track is a beast. You're riding over yet-to-be-tilled ground, yet you can hardly notice any bouncing from either the camera nor the CB-cord. What a great age to live in having green and red beasts like these.
Well done guys, keep up the good work
Thanks
I’ve got that exact same disc setup on my farm simulator game😂😂 love the comparison between the 2 disc! Y’all are durn good at showing what all is going on and how things work! I bet y’all are a great bunch to work for/with!
Your high speed disk does a nice job !!
Thanks the John Deere was my favorite to plant behind this spring
Great video Ivers Farms
Thanks
Great video as always. Those high speed discs are nice. Only other one thats worth a test is a deglman/kinze pro till. Its built very well and tough.
I’ve been hearing a lot about the deglmans
We tried to get the kinze for a demo a couple years ago but couldn’t ever get one
Great video as always! We use a Degelman pro till 40 and love it. But that Case speed tiller is pretty impressive.
A lot of people seem real happy with their Degelmans it must be a good one
@@iversfarms I know Mike Mitchell in Canada has good things to say about Dengelmans. Never ran 1 personallly.
@@marshalloutdoors1791 I might have to check them out
Looks like temps will be getting into the 40s 🌞here in the middle of IL early next week. Hope ya'all made it thru those zero temps last week. However, was nice to get those 9 inches of snow... 🌨️🌨️🌨️
Yeah it’s going to be good and sloppy next week
Your channel is getting noticed as the dealers and equipment companies want you to run their stuff! Glad y'all got the better high speed tiller!! Get the hats, and I will buy one!
Yeah need to get that set up
Hey Brian, just to let you know, dealers are required to do so many demos a year. Especially Case and JD. All you have to do as a customer is ask. its the same thing as a test drive for a car. dealers would rather have a customer try the rig out if it increases the probability of a sale.
@@Faollord I know that as I came from the turf industry
Great video I do like drone shots
Me too
About your comment when you were mentioning the hat give away about looking for motivation to keep going. I hope you don’t quit because I think you guys have a quality operation and put out good videos. Hopefully the subscribers will follow.
Thanks, just time consuming, so any motivation helps.
@@iversfarms I have one combine and it is smaller than any of yours and I am the only person that runs it and I do all of the planting so I know you have a lot more acres than I do lol. There is no way I could ever put out a video like you do. I plant 2800 acres of row crops and that is time consuming even if it is not anywhere near what you do.
@@americasdream1265 o yeah you are doing a great job from the sound of it
Awesome. Been a Deere man my whole life. Been trading for more new Case tractors and planters. Seems to me there making a good product. Thanks again for the vid. Awesome
Yeah both good companys
We were all Deere growing up and we started switching over when I was in college. I couldn’t believe it at the time and we’ve went back and forth since then
We just demo’d a Kiwk Till (John Deere) the other day and was super impressed with the job it did and how heavy it was built. The same dealer had a new Case High Speed disc(K line) also out on demo and they couldn’t keep it from plugging up in stalks. I do like that the floor was level on that case tho!!
Yeah I’m wondering if the blades are too angled for heavy residue
I was going down the road with our kwik till and a wing cradle broke off because the weld didnt penetrate at all😂
Check out the new Landall HSL, I think they might be the best.
@@iversfarms The settings are were not correct for the JD tiller. the depth was set too shallow, and the disks were angled a little too steep. I do like the Case dual wheel set up.JD's automatic settings on their tractors when paired with a JD tiller, make the tiller perform much better. I honestly can't say that Case's software likes JD.
@@iversfarms Also, if you ever want to demo JD stuff, just ask the dealer. if you didnt know. Its free to ask :)
Nice CASEes in the field 🐑👍🏿🇳🇴Norwegian sheep farmer
Nice videos. I'm Indian 🇮🇳 farmer
The case worked much better than the John Deere. I liked the way it rolled every inch instead of leaving grooves. That makes a huge difference in rooting, oxygen in soil, etc. Great video.
Definitely
Crazy to not take that buck!
Picky hunter
The drone shot of the strip tiller looked like it was wagging left and right , like something's not parallel , fighting against it's self .
Yeah has the implement steer on it
Looks straight behind it. Made a bunch of adjustments on aggressiveness never did get it real smooth
Works great making it track around curves
Hi from Australia,
Just give you a heads up on that CASE high speed tillage unit.
It's Australian made a designed..😉
CASE brought out K Line Ag back in 2019, we brought the last four green 15.5m (51ft) Speedtiller Powerflex Mammoth units before CASE changed to red..😁
Our units weigh in at 22 ton..
We even use our units to cut back regrowth on our calfing paddocks..
They are probably the strongest unit on the market today...
Stay safe.
Good to hear from you mate 😎
I had heard that and wondered if you’d comment. Do you have any problem with the back gang balling up?
41ft is the biggest we can get them here
@@iversfarms Hi mate..😉
Of course I'm gonna comment, it's Australian made of course..😄😅
Got to say we don't have too much problem with the rear gang plugging up, in saying that we occasionally have a plug ( once in a blue moon..😅). If it's gonna plug, it'll be in wet heavy clay soils with high residue, but this is pretty normal for any disc tillage unit.
@@troyadamswaymarfarm5224 10-4. If we have any problems this spring I may give you a shout
@@iversfarms any time, I'll be watching your videos anyways..😁
Great channel, wishing you guys all the best.
You won't be disappointed with that CASE high speed tillage unit..😎
@@troyadamswaymarfarm5224 sounds good
👍👍
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Is the idea off the high speed disk to reduce tillage in the fall? We have never ran one and Our dealer thinks we should demo one what’s your thought on them compared to a disk ripper. Have a nice thanksgiving
We only run the rippers on stuff we think is compacted or is going to be corn on corn. We run the high speed disk in the fall(use to be turbo tills) mostly in stalks that will be planted to beans. To start breaking down the stalks, work in the fall applied fertilizer and smooth it up to make it easier to handle in the spring.
On most we will hit it again with it in the spring but shallower or use a field cultivator or mulch finisher.
Sometimes we will it some of our thick dirt with it twice in the fall and just plant into it in the spring.
We also ran it in bean stubble this fall in the river bottoms so it doesn’t all wash away in a flood which is pretty common for us in the winter.
They are good for minimum tillage that can cover ground fast and stay in front of the planter. Different tool for a different job from the ripper IMO.
Need to try the kinze/degelan now have heard the john deere/norwood is the most lackluster one
Good comparison between the two. The ridging from the 2680 is significant. It's hard to think that was not observed in R&D, but who knows. Other than the blade size difference (22" vs. 20", which the 2680 is spec'd at as opposed to 18" like Dennis thought; and 24" is listed as standard on the 475, but it sounds like you have the 22" option), the rear gang angle is spec'd at 14 degrees on the 2680 and 17 on the 475. The front gangs are 17 on both and the spacing is the same at 10" on both. So, I guess the blade size and rear gang angle should be the only reason for the difference in the field, in theory. Regardless, good deal on being able to demo the Case and being able to do the quick switch.
I agree and excellent research. I’m a little worried about the rear blades being too angled on the case for not letting excess trash through but time will tell
The comparison was not accurate, the JD tiller didn't look like the depth was set right. Also, I dont know about case's tech playing with JD, but on a JD tractor there is automatic depth adjusting tech. Apples to apples, it should have been red on red, and green on green.
And the blades needed replaced
Reece, have you ever run the vertical till as your spring tillage? We don’t do much spring tillage as I strip till everything in the fall, but for what we do I’m wondering if there is a case to be made to dump the soil finisher and get one of these for the benefits it gives for fall use as well. I’m worried this could compact the ground under the working depth. What are your thoughts?
Thanks
Yes the jd was my favorite thing to plant behind this spring compared to the mulch finisher and field cultivator we have. No compaction issues this year that I noticed anyway
We ran turbo tills for years. Mostly in the fall. If it was a little wet I didn’t like them in the spring but really liked them in the spring when it was good and dry.
@@iversfarms thank you for the info! Great videos this fall! If you ever want to chat about strip tilling let me know. We have been doing it about 17 years and have trialed many different setups with a lot of research behind it.
On your deere disc did you ever replace the blades or measure their wear? On our lemken Rubin we started having that untilled ridge left and measured the blades, they were worn down almost 3.75" at the front and about 2.5" at the back gang. Put new blades on and the issue went away.
That may be the problem but it was new this spring so if they wore that quick that’s a whole other problem
@@iversfarms depends on the ground. We are mostly clay but sandier and gravelly soil will really wear those blades down. I have a buddy who had three exact same disc as us but they swapped blades 3 times before we ever had to swap once, big difference was they farm in very gravelly ground and it's just harder on equipment.
@@LeFloop I hear that. grandpa farmed on clay and when he’d change shovels his sand farmer buddy would come get his used ones to use
How Deep shank going on ripper?
Awesome vid!
20 inch on the eco till
Probably around 8-10 on the disk ripper
Im a deere guy...
Always will be...
The case speed tiller is just better
Great video
do you think that the JD tiller underpeformed cuz it was not on a green tractor? case tech was designed to be on other case impliments. Same with JD. Yes, the equipment with "work," but they wont show off unless set up right on the platforms they were engineered for. I've done a similar demo on my folk's fields, but it was the other way round. green tractor and red till, vs green tractor-green till. i got similar Red results, but the Green peformed pretty much equal to the Red IMO.
How many acres is the largest field you guys farm? Great video. Glad you have a successful harvest.
Thanks, 630
Which is the field that the two high speed disk were in
@@iversfarms That is a nice 630. The case gets my vote for the high speed. Do you plant into this in the spring or do you need to till one more time ahead of the planter? Good video! Good explanations.
@@justincase2830 lighter soil will get hit again and the heavy soil we’ll just plant into it
@@iversfarms ok, thanks
No mention of passing on that buck in these comments?!
Enjoy ur vids!
I know right. Travis has gotten several over the years so he’s pretty picky
Do you like the quadtrac or the 9rx better?
They are both fine machines with advantages and disadvantages over one another but I prefer the quad
The Deere is moving more dirt in the air.you can see it in your film. Thanks
Sure is, he was pulling it faster. Combination of it pulls easier and the air filters needed changed in the other one. (Our mistake on that)
Whats the difference between tilling and cultivating. I still dont get that.
Do you prefer the case quadtrac over the john deere?
I like case but they are both excellent
Kinze is the best with rubber rollers.
Have u guys ever tried a degleman pro till
No but you are the 3rd person to mention it. Maybe we should
Don’t they make them for case sure looks like it
18:50 most spreaders are 70ft now days, going to be some overlap or find some old spreader?
Their spreader can adjust down to 60
@@iversfarms must be a spinner spreader because air spreaders won't. I applied fertilizer for 9 years.
@@AndyFromm yes it was
The case speedtillers are built in australia
Yes sir, we had to wait awhile to get a demo
How much do you spend per sqft on that shed? How thick is the floor?
A lot
8”
Good job Case. I'm more a Deere guy but case does better on high speed tillage.
Sure seem to.
K-line has been at it for awhile. If there was any company to buy out, that was it
you need a Degelman protill
Sounds like I need to do to a little research on those
The case is better just because it doesn't leave the ridge in the seed bed
Discs wore out on the John Deere?
It was new this spring so I wouldn’t think so but I haven’t measured them
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Thanks
I like your case equipment, not a Deere lover.
Thanks, I’m not partial to any. Whatever gets the job done
Nor till make both case ih and John deere . different types that all .
Have you guys ever tried a Degleman ProTill?
No
If you ever get the chance to try one you should they do a fantastic job.👍🏽
@@dilonmcclean4143 LOL Some people JD people just don't like anything that is red and say Case IH on them. I run green tractors and planters but red tillage equipment and combines.
@@dilonmcclean4143 they must, everyone seems to be mentioning them. I guess that’s what you have?
The 2680H has 20” blades
Yeah he got both sizes wrong. Point remains that one is bigger than the other
It gets to 18” pretty fast thought 😂
Get a Degelman pro till.
A lot of people seem to like those
Good nite man id work for free in exchange for farming knoledge always wanted to work for a farmer ✌️✌️
Might have a deal there
@@iversfarms i honestly would if inwas closer to u guys i stay out here in cedar falls ia
@@caliboyz8314 I see, up there in the good ground with 6 foot of top soil.
Dad was up there this summer checking out the derecho damage. That was a shame
@@caliboyz8314 I promise to you, that if you go to a farm dealership and asked for info on working for a farmer as a hired hand, you'd get the work within that week. You just have to ask. Farmers rely on either family members to help, or they hire help. Most of the time around here in MT, the farmers pay for international visas for other country's workers. Around here lots of Danish, South African, and Swiss hired hands, cuz most americans don't want to work on a farm year round.
Nothing says you like something like putting your money were your mouth is! It also matches your tractor 👍
It does look better when they match
I will buy a hat
We’ve been talking about selling them
you can in drone view that case is doing a better job
Sure can
Time to trade that Deere in...making a pass and not 100% tilled? Not good it would seem to me?
If it Ain't Red it stays in the shed
It's cool that a real farm can actually afford to buy new equipment.. That JD 2680h is a toy meant for green paint addicts. Clearly the 475 is a way better tool but how many farmers get to demo before laying the $$$ down. I'm sure Case has the tillage and combines locked down over the green stuff. Just a pity the Quadtrac has such a crappy engine..
Can’t afford not to. The jd did a real good job this spring or at least I thought it did. I liked planting behind it.
We haven’t had much issues with the quads engine. We did use to have issues with all the tier 4 exhaust stuff but that isn’t much of an issue anymore.
As far as demos go, JD dealers are required by JD to do so many demos a year. All ya got to do is ask your sales rep. you are also right, JD equipment can be used on any tractor, combine, etc. they were really designed to be green on green to really show off. That being said, Case does the same thing.
farming is very differently with you than with me, check out my vlog too,greeting jilles boer
I’ll have to check it out
Your dad saying we are just in a 650 acre field
Me who farms 600 acres total. I’m sorry what
That’s our biggest one
It depends on your operation. if 650 acres supports your needs (animal feed, hay, finances etc) thats perfect. Most farmers up here in Montana farm 3 to 4 thousand acres to make ends meet. I also know up here we have alot of open land, but there are some insane farmers here that do 10,000+ acres. I also know a farmer who farms 65,000 acres. his goal is to farm 100k.
Ridiculous set of discs not tilling the ground
Case IH not Case.
True
Hahaha pulls easy cause it doesn't till
🤷♂️😂
I know this the problems with John deere was so bad in the middle of harvest switch to case tractors and combines and new Holland choppers
That case speedtiller is a K-Line. I sell K-line discs at a farm dealership and before case bought the k-line north american operation out it was really difficult to (i say convince) people to try or buy the unit because it is a more unknown name than your case/deere/degelman. Glad you guys bought one of them they are nice units.
Ok, I knew it was an Australian company’s product they bought but didn’t remember the name.
No doubt about it, lesser known names have a harder time getting on farms
K-Line is a terrible unit. It plugs and doesn’t pull straight.
@@bradhofer4925 sounds like you didnt have it set up right