Ultimate Ag Drone Comparison: XAG P100 vs DJI T40 (PLUS drone crash)
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- All we wanted to do is make a simple comparison video - how does the T40 stack up against the P100?
But before we can even finish demonstrating, we have a bird down....
Which is best? The XAG P100 with superior build quality, or the DJI T40 with much better software? The answer becomes very clear.
If you want to get into drone spraying, email info@dronedeerrecovery.com - we'll be happy to teach you what we've learned the hard way.
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00:00 - Preview
00:26 - Intro
01:19 - Specs comparison
07:44 - Flying comparison
09:48 - Mapping
13:44 - Launching Ag Drones
19:29 - Outcome
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I'm part of a potato farm and we just got a DJI M350 for doing field mapping and scouting with an ndre camera attachment. This'll be our first year with it and we're excited to be able to monitor plant health like never before. With that information at our disposal, being able to spot spray where we have nutrition deficiencies or insect damage would be a great asset. Naturally, I think a drone to spot spray would be excellent and our farm. I just watched another video where the P100 had better payload, battery life, and flight time. I wanted to go DJI but thought the efficiencies of the P100 might push us the other way. After this review, those advantages are inconsequential when it comes to DJI's ease of use. The time saved in flight planning and higher quality execution far out weigh the P100's good marks. The fact we already have the M350 just makes this a no brainer. Thank you for the review.
DJI just announced the new DJI T50.....
excellent really it's very unbiased analysis, thanks !
I was thinking about getting a p100 pro . But my concern was the Software even before this video.. i like the beigger tank and ez tank removal and the 4 motors over the 8 . I also saw a Comparison between these 2 and the XAG was a faster spraying drone. But have an easy to use software And remote makes a big difference. I run john deere sprayers because there software is Superior it just works ! Time is money Especially when you have a time sensitive spray application. I'm still considering both, but thanks for the video.
Out of box Ease of use is better with DJI
There's drone as you know it (2 hands busy to play) or to get job done (1 hand, all with one thumb, not an fpv racing drone or filming anyway). Flying with both manufacturers, just do the math and pick the one, farming is bussines anyway. XAG has bugs in soft all the time, but also many ways to avoid them, DJI has better soft and communivation, but much slower at work. XAG for more work done, DJI for easy to operate out of box.
p.s. If you promoted your company with this video, manual flying should be cut off, you are teaching to fly afterall!
We use peristaltic pump in some applications where I work. They are great pump but the only problem in the hose life. For as much they are used I guess they last a while but may want to carry some spares
Greetings from Australia, I know exactly how you feel with your frustration with XAG drones, I’ve owned a P30 for the last few years and have finally written it off. it’s been the biggest disappointment to my contract spraying business.
The P30 was buggy, had a mind of its own, obstacle avoidance basically non existent and the RTK would time out all the time resulting in Large GPS deviations often resulting in crashes. I haven’t made a cent out of my P30 and was thinking the P100 pro would be so much better, think I will steer clear of it this time 😬
Hey Joel you can’t compare the P30 with a DJI T40 is simply not build in the same era. The XAG P30 was build and designed back in 2018 and the DJI T40 is build and designed in 2022. So the fair comparison is DJI T40 with the XAG P100 and in our case here in Australia is the P100Pro to DJI T40, because they still don’t have the DJI T50 here yet in Australia except for the test units.
@@Charles-fl5vx Hey charles, I wasn't comparing the P30 with the T40, I was merely highlighting my frustrations with the my P30 and I noticed some similarity with the P100 system which I encountered. I don't have any loyalties with any company I just need a system that is tried and tested and simply works.
Dear Drone Deer Recovery team, thank you for your review on XAG and our products. The situation in your video has been well noted and we would like to connect with you for further details. Please let us know your point of contact and we’ll get in touch soon.
Yes, we would love to connect! info@dronedeerrecovery.com or mike@dronedeerrecovery.com
Same issues with this in my company, Always avoiding obstacels😅. 2 drones crashed. Not even make 20 flight hours.
This wasnt an accident
DO NOT TRUST XAG AT ALL! THESE DRONES ARE RUBBISH, AND THE COMPANY TAKE YOUR MONEY AND TURN THEIR BACKS ON THERE CUSTOMERS. NEVER EVER PURCHASE ANY XAG PRODUCTS.
Dude you never gonna change peoples minds on DJI its just what it is . China makes the best drones . Stop hating on the DJI drone it does its job perfectly
Thanks so much for this video. I was considering the T40 or the P100 Pro, but given the performance of the XAG product, you've no doubt saved me headaches and coin by going with DJI. I have the M30T anyway, so the ability to use the RC with the T40 makes it a no-brainer for me. Thanks guys, love your content. Greetings from South Oz! 👋🦘
agree XAG have a way to go software wise they certainly got the mechanic s well done apart from folding arms
@@ozlakota1- After my comment, I've just come away from 3 days training with the XAG P100 Pro, not the P100. I have to say, I take it back. The XAG is one amazing piece of equipment, and its performance was flawless. I agree, the controller could be done better, as I prefer an all-in-one control interface, and perhaps this is something XAG could work on. But, this is a purpose built drone and it does what it does exceedingly well.
i agree i was all for the xag but bought a T30 because i could fly it full manual no mapping private farm in a very steep country and i just fly 3 tanks and return to the house to charge on average gives me 3 hectr coverage and depends on weather conditions varies in day so maybe get second change in afternoon etc
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Thank you for the content
I don't use the xag p100 but use the dji, simply because it's easy to use and works well in complex terrain.
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What makes the DJI better for complex terrain?
@@DaxNZ bruh, did you not watch the video? xD
@@MunitionsDudTester Probably not, can't remember haha
Thank you for this video - it takes patience, experience, and time to plan, shoot, edit, upload, and deal with these video (deal with being the comments both pro and con). I look at all these as ways to learn more. I am curious where this beautiful location is. Which state are you located in? Thank you again.
I have a t40 ,waiting on the 50 love it
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I used to operate xag xp2020, and yes you right, XAG need time to understand how it's works, and tons of headache, the best thing is durability and modular build. I've crashed and falling from 20 feet to bushes and the only broken part is propeller. DJI are peace in mind on software and flight control until it crashed or broken 😂
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How do I get in contact with you guys? We are looking to add a drone to our operation and would like to really know if it will fit or not and the cost
Super comparison video. I only have a recreational DJI Mini 3 Pro and not a farmer but I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I guess to tubes you didn’t like were latex and possibly will last longer than the rigid ones without cracking. They would also be perfect for the peristaltic pump system. The peristaltic system I’ve seen , in hospitals for example, have sets of rollers that move along the the outside of the soft tube to push the fluid along.
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Can the drone also fly at dusk when the insects no longer fly?
Or are all beneficial insects like bees also sprayed with the poison?
Would you consult/advise people outside the US on getting set up?
I'm a newbie in this but let me ask....in min 9:55 you said you will use a RTK ground base station for boundaries accuracy, if I use a Mavic 3 Multiespectral (that comes with RTK module) do I need to use RTK ground station?
Thank you for the great review.
I believe you would still need the RTK ground base station unless you are connecting to a state RTK station
And now for my bullet points ...
1. Something is not right from the get go. At take off, all motors should start simultaneously, your right rear starts before the others. Corrupt firmware ?
2. Are you operating in RTK or VRTK mode ? You don't have the RTK modal attached to the controller, and there is no sight of a mushroom RTK on a tripod in the video.
3. You have not deployed the aerials on the controller. They are still in the stow position.
4. When you start an autonomous operation the drone must be on the ground, as it uses its takeoff coordinates as part of its positioning calculations. In the video you can hear the app saying "starting operation" whilst the drone is hovering. You can start an operation while flying with a DJI drone, you cant with XAG, it will crash.
XAG review the flight logs. Drone was never taken over manually.
@@dronedeerrecovery you keep saying that but it is clear as day that you did take over manually.
One thing I see is you can pick up those hoses and pump parts on the DJI at most farmers' supply stores.
And mate the obstacle that the aircraft detected might be the animals that you introduced in the field in the XAG flight which was absent in the DJI video
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This guy has ripped off so many people in Australia. He is a complete and utter snake! Do not trust any XAG product.
Are these Ag drones flyable under Part 107 or is another license required? Seems like they may exceed the weight limitations
You must have a part 107, and an over weight exemption. That is just a few you have to go through. I have at least 8 different exemptions/ license I had to go through....
You can yes but there is another waiver needed.
Saw this situation for the first time after we did 5000 hectare using p100 this season. The tank could drop only if you didn't clip it. You can find videos where p100 going through the hill with much bigger angle. Btw your finger is wright on the stick just before the crush. Why?)
Your comment is false. XAG checked into the flight logs. Drone entered, ring state Best guess. Autonomous flight did not correct for it. I assume they have since updated their firmware.
@@dronedeerrecovery your video is false) first one engine started earlier then others, second drone is swinging from left to right during take off. Pilot: "for sure everything is ok, we continue the flight" 😅 where did you study drone operating, you say?) Watch p100 doing great job almost every day on our channel with no crushes😉
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What does acrate mean?
Not too sure if you are honestly trying to do a true comparison of the 2 Drones.
Obstacle Detection Discrepancies: You pointed out that the XAG system's brain is slow . But the testing conditions for the two drones seemed markedly different. The environment with the P100 had animals like sheep and horses which would naturally be detected as obstacles, and it did (due to its 30-meter obstacle detection distance). This is especially evident at 16:42 when a sheep moves, and the aircraft shifts in alignment with the animal. This suggests that the system is doing precisely what it’s designed to do. It would be more suprising if the P100 doesnt stop when there are several moving animals (Moving Obstacles) in the field. On the other hand, the DJI system's environment didn’t have such obstacles.
Question: Is it even legal to purposely operate Drones near animals in the US?
P100's Takeoff Concern: It was a bit puzzling to see the P100 being made to take off with a clear obstacle (the DJI DRTK Station) directly in front of the take-off point, either this led to the drone seemingly losing its stability during takeoff, or there is obvious issues even before take off, i have never seen an XAG Drone swing right at the take-off.
Control Switching at 17:11: Around the 17:11 mark, it looked like you switched control to your remote controller. The "Hover" button was very evident on the screen. It’s not clear whether you noticed it or pressed it, but this is so misleading
Some statistics for you, T40 have more signifcantly crashes than P100 in China (China is used as reference as China has the largest operating fleet of XAG or DJI), due to factors to their weak propeller melting when it is operating in a sunny day, and propeller breakage when it is operating in cold environment, and the T40 can not operate with its factory blade at full load as well, and only can operate in reduce weight (Recommended Weight)
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I totally agree with you, there is a trick here.
Agree
Great job! True story!
Drone entered, ring state XAG checked flight logs
bouta get a bunch of drones sent to you for you to review now
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Mike, just seen you on Eastmans hunting journal elk hunting.
😊 Thanks for the comment 👍. I was on that hunt about one year ago.
Why use a mavic instead of the Martrice for mapping purposes?
Shutter speed
It was obviously a used drone. Had it had any service work done before you got it? It looked like it had a replacement blade. I also noticed one engine start before the others. Where was your RTK unit?
Drone entered ring state
@@dronedeerrecovery interesting, so it can enter ring state when in autonomous mode?
@@Craig_Simpson yep they since have updated the firmware to hopefully not have this happen again
If you are selling Ag drones, are you guys custom applicators also?
Yes
@@dronedeerrecovery interesting. I don't see a valid exemption for your company on regulations.gov that would authorize the flight of a heavyweight drone.
agree with your analysis and came to similar conclusions SHAME XAG cant fly manual
i bought T30 because it had more proven tec t 40 has had issues mostly sorted now 15 months after its release
Appreciate your content
I can help you analyze the log file of this p100, if you can copy the D.XL file
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Nice manual crash! I fly P100 XAG drones almost every day and never had a crash. Just before the crash on your video, I can hear the controller beeping twice, which means you took control manually? and also, the sprayers stopped just before the crash? that only happens when you take control manually...
False information. XAG already looked into the flight logs and your comment is complete BS.
Dude just created good example that XAG does the job even if controlled by real man who doesn't read any manuals. High wind ( 16:57 ), folded antenas (15:42 and all the time), animals on field ( 16:38 ). Even after that manual crash drone is still in normal condition 18:11 . I guess he says that he didn`t fly manual just not to get license suspended, but what about such dangerous flying caught in video in US?
At takeoff, 16:24 drone is 1.5m high, next sec (after app is shown 16:25 ) already 10m, super fast.
He thought that others can`t read "Drone is controlled by remote controller" 17:10 then 17:21 then 17:42 then at crash 18:01 Manual beeps at 17:58
At 17:09 he was trying to fly over horses, as you can see on screen set point at 17:23, but XAG refused to do that. Is that even legal in US? At this same sec you can see that manual spray and flying is done for video, but still 0.00/12.55l from mission. Need to save this video for future, how not to do! 19:57 is perfect for pause for face expression or text for others. Hard to tell if this was on purpose or he did it naturally. :)
@@vecsalnaji 100%. someone needs to report these guys
Who is paying you guys?
How much DJI agras T40?
if you any help repairing the agras t40 let me know, happy to help! dji made it so user friendly in the oparation way! regarts from chile!
Nice manual crash bro)
At least cover or blur your phone screens before going in AB manual mode on the arc3 man)))
Yeah, T40 best drone....
Also, very cool flying a fully loaded drone above and near animals!
Animal abuse at it's best😊
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False comment
The P100 is the biggest piece of shit our company purchased. We requested a refund and purchased the T40. The T40 is easier to use and has been reliable 100% of the time.
How much weight can each drone lift ?
Max probably 150 pounds
That DJI would have disintegrated tapping the ground like that. Also, interested if the ground station and Mavic were included in the price of the T40
Anyone knows anything about T40 availability in Europe?
Don't know.
Looks like the xag has to be built that well because it’s designed to crash 😂
Dude, you switched to manual mode and forced him to lower the altitude and after that you ask what happened ? 🤣 in confirmation of my words , this is visible on your phone in the process of work , where a line is displayed that you are in manual mode or you did it intentionally or you need to first learn to use this drone and only then control it
False comment
an octo may loose a motor and still fly... a quad loosing a motor drops off the sky
Heavy props and materials, cost more when crashing and create more damage. Drones are like space rockets - the less weight the better unless truly needed.
DJI is on a class of it own… DJI has been leading the Drone industry for Decades… 100% DJI
My heart sank when it hit the ground.
yeah same.
Dji the best drones company in the world
lol time will tell the tale!
You keep changing how you refer to the drones. Sometimes by brand, sometimes by model
very similar to DJI advertising 😂 why did you switch to manual mode? 😂
Drone entered ring state
ah yes the perfect drone for photography
cant believe that shit (XAG) is $17,107
Buddy who bought that P100’saw this video afterwards and said fuuuccckkk
Don't mean to offend you, but the props are better on the DJI too. Eight motors don't work as hard as four, and I bet two from DJI are cheaper than one for the P100. Peristaltic pumps aren't an advantage. Hoses through the pumps wear out and pressure changes. You still have to check spray heads. Swapping tanks sounds like a good idea, but everything on the swap wears. Just fill chemicals with jugs, depending on the chemical mix it in one jug and fill the others with water and let them mix in the DJI tank when you add the water. You just can't beat DJI. Did you still sell the P100 to the guy? I hope he doesn't see this.
Please try to improve your videos stabilisation. While your camera quality is amazing, shaky video gave me headache 😅
I have flown 3000 acres with DJI's T40 drone. What questions you don't understand can consult me
I have since this video flown over 11,000 acres with T40s not too many things I haven’t figured out since 😁
Exactly the harder blade will kill you. Should be softer
I am from cambodia i have been use t20 it is very durable drone i just upgrade to t40 this year and it was a mistake recommend t30 or wait t50 xag never use but look promising p100 pro
Yes, looking forward to a t50
@@dronedeerrecovery t40 every moving parts very shortly life span heavily crash several time over 3 months I have experience using dji for years it turn out to be hardware was a problem
you guys are amazing
Thanks for watching.
XAG p100 is a flying blender..
Your hand clearly on the remote and the software says the drone is controlled by remote.
Fail big time.
In Vietnam, DJI always wins, in the fields you can always see T30 and T40.
ITS PLAY LIKE ITS VERY ESPERT IN SOFTWARE , BUT SCREM WEND DRONE ITS NOT RESPONT ME GOD SO NERVOSE AND CONFUZE :)) ULAALALLA
I emailed you. Give me the goods. Subscribed also.
That’s why I stick with Dji products never had any issues. Yeah, the other brand I would never buy it. I have the same aircraft as a T 40 airframe only Dji doesn’t make that are craft someone else does, but I’m not gonna tell anybody who makes it stop secret. 🤫🤫
Do you have a lot of views from Ukraine?
You turned off xag's ground radar, then you lowered it manually. I think the DJ paid you a lot of money for this video.
Ridiculous comment
Sana kendi dilimde cevap yazmak geldi içimden. 1. Terrain yer modülünü otonom uçuş için kapatmissin. Giderken yukselmemesinden belli. 2. Si ise dron geri döndüğünde yükselerek geliyor ve sen bunu hower konumuna almasını bile beceremiyorsun. Hower konumuna aldıktan sonra ise otonom konuma gecirmiyorsun, manual gelirken sabotaj ve kötülemek için dronu yere çakiyosun. Ama maalesef dron okadar sağlam ki amacına ulaşamiyorsun. Ben xa nin yerinde olsam senin elinden o dronu alır paranı da geri vermezdim. Yan yana uçuş yapıp kafa kafaya carpistirirdim. Ozaman farkını görürsün. Pls translate for english
Szerintem nem értel hozzá.🤷🏻♂️😂
Wow) no one answer about all the arguments many people commented) btw you are a very bad actor 😂
😁 your funny
I make drones for Hylio, The world largest agricultural drone in the world ! You should try them out! Badass!
DJI is cooler, I think.
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is this a paid dji add?😂
I wish
Dude you never gonna change peoples minds on DJI its just what it is . China makes the best drones . Stop hating on the DJI drone it does its job perfectly
I helped make sure using a drone in hunting recovery remains illegal. I see you are still failing
This seems complicated…
Yup
@@dronedeerrecovery you ever think about getting a hydrogen fuel cell drone?
This souds like bullshit..also lol at wanting imperial 😂😂
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Mate I recommend you learn basic flying again and you are right that you are not professional at this at all, there is something called pre-flight checks.
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This is so true XAG software is horrible and their updates usually add more problems that were not there before the Obstacle Avoidance is slow and does not work well. The quality of the hardware is good except the pumps wear out quickly and break motor shafts ever 1000 acres from what we have experienced, the batteries are great though.
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With 8 motors you can lose multiple motors and still land safely.
👍🏼 good point
Totally agree, I love how strong the xag is built but hands down dji software is so far ahead of anyone else. I have the t40 and wouldnt go for any other company
Not at 3-5m AGL which is normal spraying height
@@chowcharles1039 it is supposed to.... Thankfully I have never had to find out, but in the software it is supposed to be able to continue to fly if one motor or esc goes out.... That is at least on the t40.
mate I had a motor failure with my T40 at 4m AGL with less then half payload left on board it came down like a rock.
give money back
DJI is falling behind, even with all the problems P100PRO and the upcoming P150 leaves DJI in the dust. Anyone with DJI will struggle to compete unless you are doing low volume spraying. Nobody is talking about the most important part on spray rig: THE PUMPS and FLOW RATES. XAG P100PRO has 22l/min, DJI T40 has only 12l/min. On high rates the same 50ha job you will do with P100PRO in 5.9hrs with 42 battery swaps (including refill times) you will do with DJIT40 in 9.2 hrs and you will do 104 battery swaps (including refill times). That's MASSIVE difference
P100 is absolutely shit.
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Interesting DJI PAID AD VIDEOS😂
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Xag are rubbish, wont even give you money back in Australia. GREAT review
You don't get your money back if you don't have a legitimate reason, that's in any country
mate they are rubbish the first one went crazy and smashed it self, the second would not operate, wake up they are rubbish@@ynot6631
manual crash😂😂😂😂😂 who even believes that?
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Wow, how much is DJI paying you?? Somone needs to report this guy. Purposely crashing a drone is not ok in any country!
🤔 not intentional
stop being a conspiracy inventory and shut up
@@dronedeerrecovery any pilot can tell this was intentional and all your credibility goes out the window. Not a normal reaction when an aircraft crashes. I guess some people will do anything for money.
Say goodbye to your drone business if Congress gets its way with the Countering CCP Drones Act, HR 2864.
DJI has been an over priced joke since the very first drone that hit the market. DJI discust me!
DJI is pretty rock solid