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  • LBC callers react to Suella Braverman's controversial speech to the National Conservatism movement in which she decried government department's displaying the LGBTQ+ Progress flag.
    "Far, far too many Tory politicians agree, and still agree, that the Progress flag must be flown to be kind, to be inclusive," the former Home Secretary told the National Conservatism conference in Washington DC.
    "The Progress flag says to me, it says to me one monstrous thing: That I was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of children in our hospitals and from our schools."
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  • @matthewcoyle3315
    @matthewcoyle3315 Před 18 dny +957

    The first woman seems astounded that the Tories are wronguns.

    • @nichobee
      @nichobee Před 18 dny +106

      I stopped taking her seriously when she admitted she revoked membership because they threw Boris out. He's even worse than Braverman

    • @Soundboy817
      @Soundboy817 Před 18 dny +52

      She hasn’t got a clue 😂

    • @dnel83
      @dnel83 Před 18 dny +77

      "are we the baddies?"

    • @Hascienda27
      @Hascienda27 Před 18 dny

      She hates herself for loving them, trying to deny she isn't A member when she probably just threw her member card out and never cancelled 😂 the thing I love the most is how fast Reform got brought up, it's not reform she's arsed about, they're the Nigel gang, the type you'd find licking the real ale signs at the local whetherspoons

    • @stephenwestland942
      @stephenwestland942 Před 18 dny +18

      I love the term wronguns. You are not wrong though :)

  • @alexgill2455
    @alexgill2455 Před 18 dny +942

    The shock that bigots are bigots is laughable.

    • @markwebsdale33
      @markwebsdale33 Před 18 dny +42

      "I never thought leopards would eat my face..." etc etc.

    • @andyquelch5754
      @andyquelch5754 Před 18 dny +7

      You have no sense of irony do you?

    • @vincentvangogh8092
      @vincentvangogh8092 Před 18 dny +9

      that she thought Boris was on the right of the tory party is cute lol

    • @lcg8220
      @lcg8220 Před 18 dny +17

      Hear me out, I don't know if Braverman is a bigot, I think she's just so completely without morals and convictions that she'll say whatever she thinks will benefit her no matter how utterly reprehensible it is, who it hurts, or the damage it does. And honestly, I think that's worse than being a bigot.

    • @OnePunchLion
      @OnePunchLion Před 18 dny

      ​​@@lcg8220 Both can be true at the same time. And if she is OK using the language of a bigot to try to get ahead, then she is probably a bigot.

  • @dogblessamerica
    @dogblessamerica Před 18 dny +348

    Wow the caller at the end was such a breath of fresh air. A lot of us feel the exact same way

    • @michelleneeds4165
      @michelleneeds4165 Před 18 dny +15

      Yeah man, really uplifting to hear.

    • @melontusk9660
      @melontusk9660 Před 18 dny +19

      Once you realise all the conservatives have been doing since 2014 is scapegoating you start to notice it every time they open their mouth and it is pathetic.

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now Před 18 dny +7

      ​@@melontusk9660? They've been doing that since 2010, mate.

    • @robinholland1136
      @robinholland1136 Před 18 dny +13

      @@V4Now Since way before 2010. Look at the history of the Tories (from the old middle Irish word, 'tóraidhe' meaning 'outlaw' or 'robber') and you will see that their core belief is that wealth and power should be concentrated in the hands of a few, at the expense of every other citizen of the UK. That is their foundational principle. And, as Nye Bevan said, they will never change. I'm in my mid 70s and remember all the damage that they have done in all the administrations I can remember. The only difference with the current iteration of the party is that they have let the mask slip and have revealed themselves for what they really are.

    • @temptemp4174
      @temptemp4174 Před 18 dny +9

      That guy is the voice of the silent majority

  • @saffaboy2007
    @saffaboy2007 Před 18 dny +477

    This must be so awkward for Dale. His beloved party hates him, has always hated him yet he keeps shilling for them.

    • @Dogboy73
      @Dogboy73 Před 18 dny +7

      Not his party, just a certain wing of it that has lost its way.

    • @caboosealmighty3735
      @caboosealmighty3735 Před 18 dny

      Much like braverman. I'm sure the party hates her for the colour of her skin. So it's a caae of her shouting even louder "look at me, i'm a bigot to, I'm one of you guys."

    • @PurushaDesa
      @PurushaDesa Před 18 dny +7

      Yes, trouble in paradise for Iain Dale and other merchants of Woke Austerity.

    • @CHIPorange
      @CHIPorange Před 18 dny +20

      ​​@@Dogboy73 ...the wing who have pulled the strings since brexsh*t.

    • @fricozoid1
      @fricozoid1 Před 18 dny +33

      @@PurushaDesawhat does woke mean? Just define to us right here right now.

  • @AshMundo
    @AshMundo Před 18 dny +867

    This first caller crying about bigots but was thinking of voting reform? 🤔

    • @emanuel1940
      @emanuel1940 Před 18 dny +93

      Well she was a tory so it's telling of her intelligence and moral compass.

    • @Kevinacharles
      @Kevinacharles Před 18 dny +55

      Her moral compass was all over the place.

    • @jimseltzer2002
      @jimseltzer2002 Před 18 dny

      Reform bigots gained 4 million votes- and are growing. Denigrate all you like, but they are growing. Vote reform.

    • @user-mm8gc5pp1j
      @user-mm8gc5pp1j Před 18 dny +73

      "I never though Leopards would eat MY face," sobs chairwoman of Leopards Eating Faces Party. 🐆

    • @eliasnorman711
      @eliasnorman711 Před 18 dny +33

      Yeah because calling people who don't agree with your politics names is the height on intellectual activity isn't it. This is why reform did and will continue to do so well.

  • @colinmccall7824
    @colinmccall7824 Před 18 dny +45

    "A lot of leftie middle class people now in charge have all got trans childre😄n." Planet Zog calling! 😂

  • @Theoffsidetrap011
    @Theoffsidetrap011 Před 18 dny +563

    That last caller cooked. Absolutely spot on for the vast majority of the UK right now.

    • @debb6393
      @debb6393 Před 18 dny +18

      👏👏👏

    • @ggunga7764
      @ggunga7764 Před 18 dny +16

      Yes 👍👍👍

    • @randybackgammon890
      @randybackgammon890 Před 18 dny +32

      Man talked absolute sense.But large chunk of the population can easily be fooled otherwise it seems.

    • @ce242
      @ce242 Před 18 dny +13

      100%

    • @peterk4626
      @peterk4626 Před 18 dny +20

      Yup, now that is speaking for the British people.

  • @Philigan87
    @Philigan87 Před 17 dny +17

    That first woman saying Braverman is a bigot, then saying she's going to vote reform, really is wild.

  • @JanoJ
    @JanoJ Před 18 dny +34

    Caller #3 the TRUE voice of the man in the street. We just want to live safe and in prosperity.

  • @EdwardLindon
    @EdwardLindon Před 18 dny +366

    Caller #2: "One last point. How can we tell parents of trans people how disgusting we think their children are?" The sense of victimhood is astonishing.

    • @colinmclennan1465
      @colinmclennan1465 Před 18 dny +36

      She should be counting her lucky stars she didn’t find herself in that position

    • @lorenzobianchini4415
      @lorenzobianchini4415 Před 18 dny +74

      I am me and I am proud to be me and gay.I would be ashamed to be a Tory.

    • @lordmusea
      @lordmusea Před 18 dny +38

      Very succinct and excellent synthesis of that second caller’s points. How do these anti-trans folks get away with making it all about their discomfort with the suffering of others?

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind Před 18 dny

      In USA a Pennsylvania community is mourning transgender teen Pauly Likens, 14, whose dismembered body was found at the end of Pride month.
      So do these people support the killer , put his picture up , some need to ask JK Rowling , is she paying killers lawyer ?

    • @nicciswainhi
      @nicciswainhi Před 18 dny +4

      ​@@lordmuseaBingo

  • @ggunga7764
    @ggunga7764 Před 18 dny +58

    People is worried about the cost of living not this bs!

    • @garethking1639
      @garethking1639 Před 17 dny

      @@ggunga7764 what if giving trans people rights didn’t cost anything? Would you be against it? Is it just because we have bigger financial priorities?

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell Před 18 dny +252

    How can that first caller say Braverman did nothing about immigration when she was in office? She did loads! She made the asylum backlog five times longer, gave a cash fortune to a country with an atrocious human rights record for doing NOTHING, got fired for breaking the law, gained the enmity and distrust of the secret services, created Victorian prison hulks, made the most vulnerable people on Earth feel frightened and persecuted, whilst treating them like criminals and putting them in conditions that endangered their health and lives!
    Oh, and then she joined the people trying to bring down the Tories and sabotaged her own government, displaying the loyalty of a rattlesnake!

    • @sv9950
      @sv9950 Před 18 dny +13

      Can't agree more.

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 Před 18 dny +8

      Agreed, so much worse. Needs to be held to account. But we can't let her scapegoat responsibility of the many others involved.

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed Před 18 dny +1

      Just come out the ECHR ACT - Job done

    • @mrchico2621
      @mrchico2621 Před 18 dny +1

      Yeah from the footage we see they don't look too vulnerable to be honest.

    • @cmasseylynch
      @cmasseylynch Před 18 dny

      Suella Braverman' reads from the Authoritarian Book for Dummies from Amazon for £9.95 - Always remembering to mention at least one group of people ,whom she can demonise- -combining this with gaslighting .It's the standard approach for people hoping to run an authoritarian country .

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 Před 18 dny +91

    7:35 the fact being trans is lefty is going to be a big shock to katlyn jenner

    • @obisan666
      @obisan666 Před 18 dny +1

      Most are katlyn is an anomaly

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 Před 18 dny +12

      @@obisan666 This only highlights how little you know. There are transpeople of all faiths and political beliefs. Just like sexuality, gender doesn't care who you vote for or pray to.

    • @obisan666
      @obisan666 Před 18 dny +4

      @@kevinsmarts9953 Most are liberal by virtue of how they are treated. Are you the trans spokesperson?

    • @jrobs1133
      @jrobs1133 Před 18 dny

      Name another one

    • @kevinsmarts9953
      @kevinsmarts9953 Před 18 dny

      @@jrobs1133 Name a trans person who is not a conservative.

  • @EdwardLindon
    @EdwardLindon Před 18 dny +295

    I'm not surprised Iain gives Caller #3 full rein. The man is on fire and tells no lies.

    • @ryuhayabaker
      @ryuhayabaker Před 18 dny +35

      Agree. I like the comments. Tories tried to fight the last election on immigration and culture wars because it's all they have left.

    • @stephenlees9386
      @stephenlees9386 Před 18 dny +16

      ​@@ryuhayabaker
      An amazingly negative campaign from a party that had been in power for 14 years! No expression of any accomplishments at all!!!

    • @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb
      @AndrewWilliams-ry6tb Před 18 dny +5

      @@ryuhayabaker They did nothing on either issue, which is why they were destroyed. Labour will be even worse, and will be obliterated by Reform at the next election. Just look at the turnout, vote share and trend.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw Před 18 dny +2

      ​@ryuhayabaker they didn't though did they. After 14 yrs of wokeness and mass immigration no one bought ant of that,so it wasn't a serious campaign.

    • @punjgurl
      @punjgurl Před 18 dny +14

      @@ryuhayabaker I'm hoping my fellow Americans respond like you Brits did to right wing nonsense.

  • @chrisd924
    @chrisd924 Před 18 dny +155

    And then they came for Iain...
    The Penny Drops...

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell Před 18 dny +179

    That last caller was spot on. The Tories have paid the price for NOT checking the hate as it grew in their ranks. They just wanted the seats and took in any populist, any incompetent with cash, any, “personality politician,” and hang the consequences! He nailed it!

    • @somethinglikeanonymous1773
      @somethinglikeanonymous1773 Před 18 dny +3

      As long as there isn’t any anti semetism it’s fine.

    • @ashroskell
      @ashroskell Před 17 dny

      @@somethinglikeanonymous1773: Fair enough. You’re talking to a floating voter, not a tribalist. There’s no such thing as a pure party in my view. Just the lesser of so many ills.

  • @Dogboy73
    @Dogboy73 Před 18 dny +49

    Last caller was amazing. I'm on my third listen. Inspiring stuff.

  • @laurastars
    @laurastars Před 18 dny +627

    'children who are being transed' ... credibility lost from this ridiculous caller

    • @dannygmtg
      @dannygmtg Před 18 dny +73

      Then claims JKR uses a gentle tone

    • @stevqtalent
      @stevqtalent Před 18 dny +50

      i'm sure she thinks she nailed that call

    • @ate-4891
      @ate-4891 Před 18 dny +47

      She can't string together a sentance, like shes just forcing buzz word jigsaw pieces together until something kind of fits.

    • @makaveli1988
      @makaveli1988 Před 18 dny +6

      She was spot on. Some hedonistic tradition.

    • @Amousebouche
      @Amousebouche Před 18 dny +9

      She was absolutely correct.

  • @NikoHL
    @NikoHL Před 18 dny +108

    Great idea! We need a disability flag too !! The last caller said what we all think. Our priorities are cost of living, housing, jobs, Environment, crime.. .. Not culture war BS....

    • @briancrellin2441
      @briancrellin2441 Před 18 dny

      But he needs to realize that all this is being pushed by the globalists and Keir Starmer is a globalist . So he's a bit off beam on that one .

    • @sarahjaneross2918
      @sarahjaneross2918 Před 18 dny +3

      I was thinking that too... a disability flag, yes! 🥰

    • @SaffineTheGreen
      @SaffineTheGreen Před 17 dny +4

      there is already a disability flag as well as a disability pride flag (not lgbt+pride related)

    • @andrewgoodbody2121
      @andrewgoodbody2121 Před 15 dny +1

      I'm still trying for figure out why she thinks she as an obviously straight woman has ANY right to what we put on our flag

  • @kevburke
    @kevburke Před 18 dny +27

    Ian is carrying water for people who would happily put him in a cage.

  • @timaustin2000
    @timaustin2000 Před 18 dny +269

    Second caller is everything wrong with this country.

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 Před 18 dny +11

      Second caller is everything that’s correct with this country.
      Read the Cass report? You’re welcome.

    • @jonb4248
      @jonb4248 Před 18 dny

      No, she’s correct. That flag stands for everything that is wrong. The whole movement has brainwashed the vast majority of people. We don’t need a flag. Simply treat everyone equally. Do not give special treatment or attention for behaviour that is different than the norm. The flag is a divisive symbol. Some people see it as an untouchable religion, others view it as nonsense. It’s highly divisive, that is why the powers that be love it. Just fly The Union flag.

    • @XAVR_
      @XAVR_ Před 18 dny +38

      ​@@itsagoal182 Do you know any trans people?

    • @blazzz13
      @blazzz13 Před 18 dny

      @@itsagoal182 Yeah we tried that madness for the past 14 years and it was a shtshow. Great you lot are now the loud minority- it's going to be a long time for you lot. Many of the coffin dodgers won't be with us by the time Labour gets voted out

    • @PityOnlyFools
      @PityOnlyFools Před 18 dny +25

      @@XAVR_they never do. Tbf there’s only 100 kids in the UK getting treatment.

  • @kenfox7007
    @kenfox7007 Před 18 dny +163

    Last caller is spot on.

  • @simongiles9749
    @simongiles9749 Před 18 dny +58

    How is "This is a dangerous ideology" a "gentle, reasonable" way of discussing *any* issue and not negatively loaded language?

    • @thehellyousay
      @thehellyousay Před 18 dny +3

      cry harder.

    • @AK-bx3ft
      @AK-bx3ft Před 18 dny +27

      TERFs are just going to TERF.

    • @simongiles9749
      @simongiles9749 Před 18 dny +19

      @@thehellyousay Wow. Great rebuttal.

    • @user-mm8gc5pp1j
      @user-mm8gc5pp1j Před 18 dny

      Like all Nazis, they can't be taken at face value. Never forget Posie Parker's true "allies" showing up in Melbourne, Australia. There's a reason TERF ideology is so popular with the book burning crowd...

    • @Captain_Kremmen
      @Captain_Kremmen Před 18 dny +10

      The notion of that screeching harpy Rowling expressing anything in a 'gentle, reasonable' way is beyond ludicrous.

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 Před 18 dny +38

    I love it when dale gets angry at the Tories only because it directly effects *him*. Don't forget, he was totally prepared to run for government in the same party as this women. Pearl clutching master

  • @andyknowles772
    @andyknowles772 Před 18 dny +151

    Imagine being a right wing conservative and surprised by Cruella's homophobia.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 Před 18 dny +9

      Only because it effects him.

    • @tenniskinsella7768
      @tenniskinsella7768 Před 18 dny

      She's not.

    • @asmith6647
      @asmith6647 Před 18 dny +1

      Imagine a Britain in 10 years time when a certain religion has more power and they ban homosexuality….

    • @andyknowles772
      @andyknowles772 Před 17 dny +4

      @@asmith6647
      Imagine if huge space lizards came to eat us. It's about as likely.

    • @beaterbikechannel2538
      @beaterbikechannel2538 Před 17 dny +1

      Imagine being a trans person and thinking those DIY parts you had made are going to work when you're 60. This will all be over in 10 years, consigned to the "yes this was a bad idea" page of history.

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison Před 18 dny +157

    The trans community is so small that it just boggles my mind that people get so wound up by it.

  • @MarkCroucherRC4fun
    @MarkCroucherRC4fun Před 18 dny +43

    Boy did that last caller put Dale in his box 😊.

  • @lucasmoreno5330
    @lucasmoreno5330 Před 18 dny +18

    Third caller was spot on. "Now they're coming for you Iain"
    Even after the Tory manufactured culture war lost them their 80 seat majority, they're still at it.

    • @MsTravelady
      @MsTravelady Před 18 dny +1

      He sounds as batty as the other two, just in a different way

  • @eliotlandy2798
    @eliotlandy2798 Před 18 dny +97

    ‘I left after they slung Boris out…’ he wasn’t ‘slung out’ he ran away like he always does and always will.

  • @portzblitz
    @portzblitz Před 18 dny +49

    This caller is kidding herself. Completely unselfconscious. She might want to try some introspection. She seems intent on denying to herself the truth about the company she keeps... And her own un-deniable culpability.

  • @deborahgriffith7476
    @deborahgriffith7476 Před 18 dny +24

    I don’t like bigots…. But my head said vote Reform ???? They’ve all gone mad!

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      No, you're just ignorant of what Reform stand for, you've just got your simplistic picture of them painted by establishment propaganda, why do you think they're the 3rd most people party already after having only just started?

  • @andrewrobinson1479
    @andrewrobinson1479 Před 18 dny +46

    Keep talking like this and the right will continue to lose. It's 2024, this host and the callers are stuck in the past.

  • @mauromatos3124
    @mauromatos3124 Před 18 dny +340

    Only when the far right bigotry knocks at his door does Dale call it out. Everything else is peachy.

    • @LeeKelly-dj4rf
      @LeeKelly-dj4rf Před 18 dny +22

      I’m glad I’m not the only person who thinks that.

    • @AOK342
      @AOK342 Před 18 dny +29

      Moderate conservatives opened the door to this bile. They are just as much to blame for this emboldened far right.

    • @Samuel-hd3cp
      @Samuel-hd3cp Před 18 dny +12

      That's conservatives for you!

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby Před 18 dny +9

      I think we can all see it. Iain just won't let himself see it. And Braverman retains the whip, once again. Sunak has it in his power to take it away. He has had that power ever since he was was made leader and she has done other things that were just as bad, or worse. It was in Sunak's gift to keep her from being a Tory MP again.

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 Před 18 dny

      The extreme left are going to ruin this country with ideology and wokery.

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 Před 18 dny +156

    People objecting to the new pride flag and claiming they support the rainbow are kidding themselves. 20years ago they’d have hated that too.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw Před 18 dny +11

      Both are nonsense. We live in secular Britain 2024,not an Islamic state in the 1700s. The idea we need to obsess over lgbt rights is absurd.

    • @stephenelkington4971
      @stephenelkington4971 Před 18 dny +2

      We are not living 20 years ago. Time has moved on - we have changed - maybe you should too.

    • @katherynet1424
      @katherynet1424 Před 18 dny

      spot on!

    • @jrobs1133
      @jrobs1133 Před 18 dny +1

      @@stephenelkington4971 Yes, the country is soooooooooooooo much better than it was 20 years ago. 🤣🤣

    • @stephenelkington4971
      @stephenelkington4971 Před 18 dny +8

      @@jrobs1133 Financially and economically it's knackered. Socially it is actually much better - racism, misogyny and homophobia are now deemed unacceptable to most people. The bigotry and discrimination of 20 years ago are no longer acceptable.

  • @matthewcoyle3315
    @matthewcoyle3315 Před 18 dny +215

    The second woman: toxic.

    • @ZeldaKid5000
      @ZeldaKid5000 Před 18 dny

      And notice how Dale kept bringing it back to immigration despite the fact she kept talking about trans people? Speaks to his hipocrisy that he can side with JK Rowling and yet get upset about Braverman because she's including him in her attacks.
      Should be a wake up call for him but I know it wont be

    • @jonb4248
      @jonb4248 Před 18 dny +12

      She’s correct, not toxic.

    • @joshuabetts2484
      @joshuabetts2484 Před 18 dny +38

      ​@@jonb4248definitely toxic

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby Před 18 dny +38

      Even the first one was toxic. That was the quiet, reasonable voice of the facsist enabler. Did you hear that her heart wanted her to vote Reform? Just because she uses a reasonable tone, you still have to listen to her words.

    • @matthewcoyle3315
      @matthewcoyle3315 Před 18 dny +22

      @@jonb4248 Gibberish.

  • @Blackswitch92
    @Blackswitch92 Před 18 dny +15

    3rd caller is the actual voice of everyone in the UK

  • @peterfee2457
    @peterfee2457 Před 18 dny +31

    The last gent needs to be a regular caller.

  • @user-bn5dt9ww4x
    @user-bn5dt9ww4x Před 17 dny +6

    3rd caller with kids in school saying we don't want to hear it ... Legend!

    • @jarugie23
      @jarugie23 Před 11 dny

      😂😂😂 I was saying it with him too. We're tired of the BS. Enough! We just want to earn enough and love in peace.

  • @idkjustaname
    @idkjustaname Před 18 dny +14

    Are we really going to ignore the fact that Dale just said hes in agreement with JK rowling on trans issues??

  • @JC-1405
    @JC-1405 Před 18 dny +87

    JK Rowling is about as 'delicate' as an elephant falling down a set of stairs. The second caller sounds like an absolutely awful person and she's convinced she's right.

    • @JFSebastian-j3m
      @JFSebastian-j3m Před 18 dny +13

      Exactly. She's made ZERO effort to be reasonable with the other side

    • @JC-1405
      @JC-1405 Před 18 dny +11

      @@JFSebastian-j3m Four years ago or so, she was using language that gave her some level of plausible deniability under the guise of 'genuine concerns', whereas now she's not even attempting to hide her dislike of trans people.

    • @marktaylor4116
      @marktaylor4116 Před 17 dny +3

      why ? for stating fact that a woman is an adult female. Sort you're life out

    • @JFSebastian-j3m
      @JFSebastian-j3m Před 17 dny +1

      @@marktaylor4116 subbed to Dave Rubin, Andrew Bridgen and Dan Wooton.....

    • @JC-1405
      @JC-1405 Před 17 dny +3

      @@JFSebastian-j3m Plus Joey Barton, KJK, Paul Joseph Watson and more. It's like a collection of all the most smug, far right mouthpieces on CZcams.

  • @dangumbo4835
    @dangumbo4835 Před 18 dny +11

    The contrast between the last caller and the second caller is night and day. One has intellect, hope and passion. The second has fear, hate and can't even string a sentence together. If only the second caller had the depth of character to listen to people who are more like the last caller, the country would be doing far better.

  • @tabithabex
    @tabithabex Před 18 dny +16

    Sorry but the second person is so ill informed. Does she even know any trans people personally to have asked what they think? Third caller helped me regain the will to live after the second ones diatribe, thank you caller !

  • @kevwatts1328
    @kevwatts1328 Před 18 dny +74

    If you're shocked or amazed that she said it, then you haven't been paying attention.

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw Před 18 dny +2

      I'm cheering what she said as a normal chap,not a far left activist

    • @kevwatts1328
      @kevwatts1328 Před 18 dny +8

      @@Edward-cv2gw back under your bridge, troll

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 Před 18 dny +4

      ​@@kevwatts1328Well said.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny +2

      You havent been paying attention if you think changing kids gender isnt a sick thing to support, what's wrong with you people!?!

    • @Edward-cv2gw
      @Edward-cv2gw Před 18 dny

      @@kevwatts1328 I know LBC is left wing safe space for you,but I'm no troll. I am though normal,conservative and British with common sense opinions which might be an even more offensive species to you.

  • @sandyfitzgerald7652
    @sandyfitzgerald7652 Před 18 dny +34

    What a breath of fresh air from the last caller, absolutely spot on!

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny +1

      You mean he parroted all the things youve been brainwashed with.

  • @czarekp3552
    @czarekp3552 Před 18 dny +121

    She's your girl, Iain.... Own it

    • @danielbanbury378
      @danielbanbury378 Před 18 dny +12

      Different as she's attacking himself, but was totally fine when she was attacking everyone else

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Let's see if the left own it when power prices go though the roof when windmills cant run the country like dumb Labour think they can.

  • @debb6393
    @debb6393 Před 18 dny +49

    What a wonderful caller at the end, fantastic listen 👏👏👏

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Because he parroted all the things youve been brainwashed with.

  • @mollyschannel9234
    @mollyschannel9234 Před 18 dny +12

    Give that Man (calling in) a medal!!... He speaks a lot of sense!!👏👏👏👏

  • @ggunga7764
    @ggunga7764 Před 18 dny +39

    3rd caller: well done 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @samim9533
    @samim9533 Před 18 dny +10

    I applauded the brother that spoke! 👏👍🏼👍🏼

  • @callumpascoe8857
    @callumpascoe8857 Před 18 dny +16

    That final caller spoke the words in my head man 👌🏼👌🏼

  • @charlespirate1
    @charlespirate1 Před 18 dny +65

    This caller “ I hate bigotry” “I thought about voting reform” lol lol lol

  • @arnoldrimmer4025
    @arnoldrimmer4025 Před 18 dny +32

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist
    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist
    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew
    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me
    The writer of this poem is Martin Niemöller, he was a German pastor who happily held antisemitic views and supported the Nazis. Up until he was imprisoned when he protested against them taking over the church and was sent to a concentration camp.
    He was happy to support his party in attacking all these other groups until they came for the one he belonged to. Something to think about Ian...

  • @gautamdev165
    @gautamdev165 Před 18 dny +94

    That last caller was awesome !!! Give him a regular spot.

  • @uniquerebeljaney3639
    @uniquerebeljaney3639 Před 18 dny +55

    The last caller is brilliant and spot on.

  • @shkelqimgjergjizi9129
    @shkelqimgjergjizi9129 Před 18 dny +45

    Last guy it’s a legend, on point every time.

  • @Shaddowkhan
    @Shaddowkhan Před 18 dny +26

    Caller 3# was cooking.

  • @alidawson6118
    @alidawson6118 Před 18 dny +10

    What a breath of fresh air the gentleman was after listening to the first two bigots.

  • @example306
    @example306 Před 18 dny +9

    "My head said Conservative my heart said Reform" and she's out here complaining that Suella is saying bigoted nonsense?!?!? ... Jesus wept

  • @xwize
    @xwize Před 17 dny +6

    Caller 3 spitting facts like a maniac, that truth cut like a knife, props to the man

  • @benji.B-side
    @benji.B-side Před 18 dny +6

    Nice to see Ian Dale humbled by the last caller. He was spot on in what he said.

  • @happycamper90596
    @happycamper90596 Před 18 dny +36

    Last caller is spot on. What a legend.

  • @dawnivison7678
    @dawnivison7678 Před 18 dny +99

    The last caller was spot-on.

  • @gadfageyar
    @gadfageyar Před 18 dny +10

    When that man says "now they're coming for you Iain," the look on his face!

  • @AmandaJAart
    @AmandaJAart Před 18 dny +7

    My 18yr does not deserve any of this hatred that is been directed at him. I'm a very proud parent, for so many reasons, the main one being that my child is just the loveliest person you could ever meet. I bet caller number two's parents couldn't say anything of the like about her. From what I've heard, she's obnoxious.

  • @PartTimeDrift
    @PartTimeDrift Před 18 dny +11

    Never thought I’d see the day in my lifetime that people get worked up over flags. People seriously need to get a grip on reality and life.

    • @kevino4372
      @kevino4372 Před 17 dny

      It's what the flag represents. It creeps in to society..affects kids thinking, affects the next generation. Cirus on tour

  • @hohohohehehe6910
    @hohohohehehe6910 Před 18 dny +9

    Imagine being proud to be right wing

  • @lukes568
    @lukes568 Před 18 dny +101

    I can’t believe she is this against bigotry, but would vote reform. Who would definitely say similar things

  • @Cw90118
    @Cw90118 Před 18 dny +80

    Iain still supports the Conservative party... so excuse me if I don't buy his false outrage.

    • @dextercool
      @dextercool Před 18 dny +8

      Supports? He wanted to run for parliament as a Tory!

    • @jfr1995
      @jfr1995 Před 18 dny +1

      That's the point though. You can support a party and disagree with something one of its members says. Why do you think political infighting is such a thing?

    • @slenda8205
      @slenda8205 Před 18 dny +3

      @@jfr1995 so at what point would you take back your support if you don’t believe in what they stand for?

    • @jfr1995
      @jfr1995 Před 18 dny

      @@slenda8205 That’s a separate question really and one I haven’t really thought about. I stand by my original point that you don’t have to agree with every single thing a politician in a party you support says. This is one of the problems with tribal politics. People think they have to be 100% aligned with their political party’s message. People tend to be much more nuanced than that, and agree with some things and not with others. We are people, not sheep.

    • @karmaascendant3936
      @karmaascendant3936 Před 18 dny +1

      @@jfr1995that’s the problem though.
      Dale was perfectly willing to run for THIS version of the Tory party. The version that mocks trans people in front of the parents of children who were murdered for being trans. The version that complains about the immigration that they increase. The version that complains about taxes that they waste and corruptly share with their friends and families. He still genuinely believes that this should be the people who should run our country and believed it was correct for the last 14 years.
      This isn’t a Braverman exclusive ideology. All the ministers under her, the ministers at cabinet and Sunak himself have all defended her when she made similar statements in the past . That’s all of the party’s best and brightest. He wanted to join them.

  • @CRingsing
    @CRingsing Před 18 dny +90

    Not convinced your right-wing callers are doing the Tories any favours 😂😂😂 When you say more ‘right-wing’, I assume you mean bigoted, or ??

    • @Unchainedboar
      @Unchainedboar Před 18 dny +9

      pretty much...

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 Před 18 dny +10

      They mean more hateful, yes

    • @itsagoal182
      @itsagoal182 Před 18 dny

      If facts are bigoted then so be it. The Cass report debunked this ideology yet the extreme left still continue to support cutting up children.
      The left approach this under the guise of sympathy, but the mask has well and truly slipped and we all can see this now.

  • @wofutokerati
    @wofutokerati Před 18 dny +44

    The second caller thinks there’s “been no debate” on gender ideology and transitioning? Conservatism is jamming your fingers in your ears and humming when you don’t like what you hear!

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 Před 18 dny +2

      They literally just purposefully don't learn anything

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 Před 18 dny

      There is no such thing as transitioning.

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 Před 18 dny +8

      @@gipgap4 citation needed

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 Před 18 dny

      @@bibsp3556 no citations needed for complete fiction.

    • @PaulaXism
      @PaulaXism Před 18 dny +1

      @@gipgap4 citation needed

  • @jamescain707
    @jamescain707 Před 18 dny +7

    That last caller is 100% on point. They are unserious.

  • @christopheroconnor81
    @christopheroconnor81 Před 18 dny +31

    A right winger horrified by Cruel Braverman? Irony is dead.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      It's funny how the left think they are the caring side, when they go around calling people gammons and wishing Brexit voters were dead, marching against jews, assualting anyone against Hamas. Yes, irony is clearly dead.

  • @alana8863
    @alana8863 Před 18 dny +41

    Keep going, Suella, you'll keep the Tories out of government for a long, long time.

  • @Asadkhan-pe2je
    @Asadkhan-pe2je Před 18 dny +10

    I'm not left or right, I am a human being!!!
    Treat all people as human beings regardless of your personal views.
    Too much hate mongering going on.

  • @jameshart3879
    @jameshart3879 Před 18 dny +23

    2:18 "vote reform they were saying what i agree with" and you're ANGRY at the tories????? Someone square this circle for me

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Easy, Reform are much better than the tory/labour partnership.
      If you'd been paying attention instead of being manipulated by establishment propaganda you would know this.

  • @badgerbane
    @badgerbane Před 18 dny +10

    My wife said when she saw this; "it's like she's forgotten that even though she's in America we can still hear her".

  • @jackperry2821
    @jackperry2821 Před 18 dny +22

    Feel sorry for the second caller in a weird way, she's so far down the dailymail and reddit rabbithole that she can't see real life. She'd be the classic example of ending up having a Trans child and dramatically altering view because it's happened to her.
    Too many people in this country lack empathy

    • @CurtalA
      @CurtalA Před 18 dny +4

      Hateful people are always miserable inside. Small mercies and all that

  • @sevecc939
    @sevecc939 Před 17 dny +4

    That guy's rant was amazing. That is how most people think. Russell Howard did say great skit on culture wars and nobody really caring.

  • @poshiesymons666
    @poshiesymons666 Před 18 dny +20

    The last caller 🤘

  • @40yearoldvirgil15
    @40yearoldvirgil15 Před 18 dny +87

    Snowflake conservatives 😂

    • @Stan_55UK
      @Stan_55UK Před 18 dny +1

      I have been having similar thoughts. Amazing how the tables turn?

    • @stobeszx9674
      @stobeszx9674 Před 18 dny

      Left wing are snowflakes in every possible connotation....they prove it, time after time

  • @Carlos12330
    @Carlos12330 Před 18 dny +9

    These Tories only concern is that Braverman is looking more and more deranged and them even less acceptable,I don’t hear any of them calling out 14 years of austerity which destroyed millions of lives!!

  • @GEricG
    @GEricG Před 18 dny +18

    Braverman knows her audience. She either gets the leadership or she'll find another avenue for making money by being controversial.

  • @Sherlika_Gregori
    @Sherlika_Gregori Před 18 dny +59

    I don’t understand. Isn’t this presenter a ‘proud’ Tory supporter ?

    • @bardsamok9221
      @bardsamok9221 Před 18 dny +6

      They're mainly in it for handing financial advantages to those who need them least

    • @mrdaveythebaby
      @mrdaveythebaby Před 17 dny

      @@Sherlika_Gregori he tried to stand as a Tory candidate...

    • @user-dm5ph5zh7l
      @user-dm5ph5zh7l Před 14 dny

      Absolutely

  • @simonmoseley2198
    @simonmoseley2198 Před 18 dny +106

    The saddest thing for me having grown up and still live in Fareham is that she thinks she's been elected on this rhetoric.

    • @gabrielmurphy3405
      @gabrielmurphy3405 Před 18 dny +12

      I think it was more being voted in on tribalism. If it was rhetoric then Reform would have won.

    • @MandyAustin-nl4cn
      @MandyAustin-nl4cn Před 18 dny +5

      Braverman has read the CASS Review while you haven't even heard of it. That's the difference between people who understand the points she is making.

    • @jameshart3879
      @jameshart3879 Před 18 dny +27

      ​@@MandyAustin-nl4cn Is that the widely scientifically lambasted and criticized Cass review per chance?

    • @geeksworkshop
      @geeksworkshop Před 18 dny +3

      Pretty much she was! People know who she is and what she represents.

    • @geowoo8884
      @geowoo8884 Před 18 dny +7

      This lady is dangerous.

  • @papylecelte9916
    @papylecelte9916 Před 18 dny +50

    What I find amazing, is these people after being mislead, lied to, and deprived of their right by the 14 years of disastrous Conservative rules, still vote for them and complain about them. Masochism can be a political strategy, and these people like it.

    • @robinholland1136
      @robinholland1136 Před 18 dny

      It's typical 'cult' behaviour. Even when presented with irrefutable evidence, it is extremely difficult for members of a cult to disabuse themselves and admit that they have been duped and controlled, to the extent that independent thinking becomes impossible.

    • @Khalkara
      @Khalkara Před 18 dny

      I don't think they like it, they're just brainwashed to disregard how it negative affects them.

  • @whackeryounis
    @whackeryounis Před 18 dny +53

    I love how people get so frustrated about less than 1% of the population. it's relatively easy to ignore and get on with your life. it also shows how they have no idea about what people want to deal with. trans issues affect such a minority that it really shouldn't be at the forefront of any political party when the country is so broken.

    • @davidatkinson5858
      @davidatkinson5858 Před 18 dny +1

      They generally don't care until that less than 1%population demographic starts trying to dictate which opinions they're allowed to have

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima Před 18 dny +1

      No its easy to ignore, since it's all over the place in the media and culture , even with a flag in public buildings.

    • @AshOwnz9
      @AshOwnz9 Před 18 dny +4

      @ricardocima ?

    • @ricardocima
      @ricardocima Před 18 dny

      @@AshOwnz9 ?

    • @bibsp3556
      @bibsp3556 Před 18 dny +12

      Why ignore it? There's no issue. There's just a lot of sad right wingers living in their feelings, rather than reality

  • @ultimatesnacks6190
    @ultimatesnacks6190 Před 18 dny +4

    “Middle class trans children” what on earth is that woman ranting about.

    • @PaulaXism
      @PaulaXism Před 18 dny

      She read it in the Mail.. which of course makes it all true and the right thing to think..... "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" - lest we forget.

  • @daveygee434
    @daveygee434 Před 18 dny +73

    ROFL. Isn’t this the guy who FAILED to become a vile Tory politician? Now having the cheek to criticise others? So funny. Why are all Tories such horrible people!?

    • @mogznwaz
      @mogznwaz Před 18 dny +3

      Just listen to yourself
      ‘Why are [people with different views to mine] such horrible people?’

    • @V4Now
      @V4Now Před 18 dny +3

      ​@@mogznwaztake what he said in the context of 14 years of Tories doing horrible things. Blatantly horrible things. Frequently.

    • @Khalkara
      @Khalkara Před 18 dny +6

      @@mogznwaz Dave didn't suggest that anyone with a different view to theirs are horrible people, he suggested that conservatives specifically are all horrible people.
      Also, do you have any actual rebuttal to this? No? Then sit down.

    • @shaun906
      @shaun906 Před 18 dny

      @@mogznwaz tories are the nasty party, own it!

    • @shaun906
      @shaun906 Před 18 dny

      @@Khalkara i agree!

  • @hanselmansell7555
    @hanselmansell7555 Před 18 dny +13

    These Tories are so mindless, they ignor facts and fear everything

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Dont worry, Reform will replace the Tory/Labour circus at the next election.

  • @bennyk3799
    @bennyk3799 Před 17 dny +3

    Am I the only person that doesn't see a pride flag everyday.. Or encounter mobs of trans persons....

  • @hannuala-olla4302
    @hannuala-olla4302 Před 18 dny +23

    If this 'trans-ideology' is so dangerous, it should be possible to *show* that it is. Not just claims that it is.

    • @tonihunnisett4302
      @tonihunnisett4302 Před 18 dny +3

      You need to open your eyes and ears if you think it hasn't been shown to be dangerous- talk to parents of children who have been captured by this evil ideology

    • @CuriousCrow-mp4cx
      @CuriousCrow-mp4cx Před 18 dny

      I think you should take your own advice, and provide evidence for your claims.

    • @philthrelfall5294
      @philthrelfall5294 Před 18 dny +4

      ​@@tonihunnisett4302Where is the EVIDENCE? Not opinions, theories or prejudices, but the EVIDENCE?

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      @@philthrelfall5294 would you like evidence for the Earth being round to? Typical Labour voter.

    • @tonihunnisett4302
      @tonihunnisett4302 Před 18 dny

      @@philthrelfall5294 read the cass report for starters!

  • @ConfydeMusic
    @ConfydeMusic Před 18 dny +6

    Third caller was absolutely right on the money. If your main concern is culture war bs about the existence of trans people rather than the cost of living crisis or the collapse if public services then you are deluded and need to find some real problems

  • @liambrophy6542
    @liambrophy6542 Před 18 dny +9

    Give the last guy a slot on that station 👏🏼

    • @EpicAelflaed
      @EpicAelflaed Před 18 dny

      But like him they don’t mention the mass uncontrolled immigration along with the crimes being committed or the gru Ming gangs

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Yep, LBC love deluded lefties like him, he will fit right in with the like of James OBrien's bitterness and jealousy.

  • @dvinci2713
    @dvinci2713 Před 18 dny +5

    But someone voted for her, she kept her seat! I don't get the shock horror of these Tories who ultimately enabled these bigots. Take some responsibility.

  • @hazrover
    @hazrover Před 18 dny +4

    Last caller was absolutely on fire, top bloke!

  • @colinbrown7305
    @colinbrown7305 Před 18 dny +3

    The last guy is spot on. He is basically speaking my internal monologue out loud.
    I'd go for a beer with that guy.

  • @TranquiloTrev
    @TranquiloTrev Před 18 dny +27

    Ian complaining about the Tory Party, when he was one of their media enablers.

    • @sonofsomerset1695
      @sonofsomerset1695 Před 18 dny

      Dont worry about them, Reform are the future now, the old establishment of tory/Labour are on their way out as the election showed.

  • @castortroy5263
    @castortroy5263 Před 18 dny +12

    A classic case of “it’s not happening unless it’s happening to me”

  • @Dave-kg9bb
    @Dave-kg9bb Před 18 dny +13

    First caller - 'can't believe how bigoted she is', moments later 'heart said vote reform'. Same caller but unable to see the irony in probably under a minute of conversation.

  • @2011minos
    @2011minos Před 18 dny +5

    I think as an British Asian I believe that non white non majority politicians must never lead Britain. There are valid psychological and political reasons.