Has the Game just CHANGED?! NEW DRONE DESIGN!! Talon Review.
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2017
- Talon fpv racing drone from kareareadrone. This Talon review drone is pretty exciting stuff, it has some great options for mounting its motors, uses a 4in1 ESC, nice space for the vtx and FPV camera and most of all should be a super fast fpv racing quadcopter because of its aerodynamic shape with the arms that cut through the air. Link - www.kareareadrone.com/
I know other frames have tried this in the past But the talon pulls the whole thing off very nicely. Could drone designs like this lead to the fastest drones yet?
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Stew - Věda a technologie
I know it’s been tried before but the talon executes this design perfectly. Link- www.kareareadrone.com/ what do you guys think, inovation or perfection? What do you want to know about it?
it look good idk can be intruded
What happened to your 5s quad.... The Terror ......... You still have it????
If I lived in your country I would have to rob you of all of your quads lol
UAVfutures Take a look at this design - Motors are even tilted towards the center - turn on google translate since its in swedish. carbix.se/product.html/viggocity?category_id=46
hey stew, i think the design is AMAZING...love the pop up 'hood'...few questions with regards to the frame and parts you put in
1. how easy was it to get all those parts in? and
2. if someone were to use separate ESCs as opposed to the 4in1, would there be space?
3. Talon VS Helix VS Chameleon, which would you think handles better??
Thanks for always bringing us new stuff stew....really interesting. i get a little jealous of your proximity to so many great places to buy! the states has some good stuff but it can be fairly expensive.
Absolutely loving this Frame. Really exited to Build mine in a few day's😁👍 Great review of the Talon
I am one of the first owners of that Frame and it is truely amazing! Suvrived plenty of crashes and is still in best conditions! :-)
Gooday! Always excited to see your reviews.This looks very nice and if i were racing this would be the design to race a bit pricey for cheap guy like me.Huge fan of capacitors for safety protection that is a huge 1. I love it.
thank you for always keeping us update with new and cheaper drones big fan
I wanna see this weapon hammering around the track!! I would mount the ESCs on the backside of the arms so you have the normal profile. 30amp mini optos should can do the job, so you didn't have to worry about the profile! absolutely awesome what you're picking up for us,stu
I don't know if I've ever been jonesing so hard for a part 2 review. This frame looks HOTT!!!!
Wow....just wow. That design deserves some praise.
Check out our Facebook group! Many people also got the talon, had a look at it and talked about the Talon~! I never did a free giveaway. The customers brought the Talon with their own money.
So all of the comments from our customers are their honest opinions~!
Facebook: KAREAREA DRONES
Great product, Karearea!
I am a bit confused, cause you produce and sale the pure frame, but send to stu a ready to fly drone. The point is, that the step of unboxing and build it together are absent, so a closer look at the frame is not possible. Can you send a naked frame to Stu for a review (if he agreed)? :)
thx
s f there's a naked frame review on CZcams if you search for it. The reviewer really liked the very high quality carbon fiber and the clean and neat way the parts fit together.
Sure. They are some reviews in web, but i hope you can agree, that the art of reviewing and the point of view are different (from reviewer to reviewer). In my opinion Stu is very talendet in his art of the communication with the community and he also has a good point of view (also dont forget the end quality validation by the lovely grumpy guy :))) ).
A one good review is much more important for me (to form a opinion about a product), then 100 of useless.
Rick Flare to USA for within 10days thanks~
@sf I actually asked for a fully built frame, makes it much easier to get the part 2 flight video up.
Bring on part two brother! I liked your review so much I ordered a green one!
Hey Stu, thanks for ca great channel. After you first posted this video, I immediately purchased this frame a built it out. Whoa! On the track, this frame is like an old well behaved dog--It does what you ask. As far as durability, the frame can take quite a beating. I ran into a tree. Theweak point in the crash was there motor and its mount. I managed to bend thealuminum and destroy a V1 Tmotor F40. All in all this is my favorite quad and my friends are jealous. After Karearea Drones, all others just seem rather pedestrian. Great review, and up the good work producing great content.
Awesome video!!! Love the frame!
That frame looks amazing it it flys half as good as it looks it's going on my wish list for sure
wow , this is a awesome quad ...
GREAT VIDEO👌👌👌
From the designer/owner of Karearea, the specs for Stew's build is:
FC: Omnibus F4 v3
ESC: Aikon 30a 4-in-1
Motors: ZMX Fusion 2522kv
VTX: TBS Unify Pro HV
Camera: Runcam Swift 2
Stew. Guday! where is the part 2 of this video that you mentioned? I'm very interested in this frame for my next build. Thank you and keep up the great videos.
It looks so good!
I have been flying toys for a couple of years and I finally picked up an X220 RTF to get deeper into the quad world and What a difference it is!!! Unlearning the stabilized mode, LEARNING ACRO mode and flying with FPV goggles... I started using FPV FREERIDER to learn before I crash because the power is unreal in comparison! Do you have any POINTERS? Before I tackle FPV without angle mode "stabilized"???
Cheers and great job being informative and entertaining, it's not an easy task.
Stu, put in the Split, and put the receiver on the top (since you won't need to mount another HD cam). Also, Karearea offers taller side plates to fit a triple stack.
BTW, you need affiliate links for every product you review. I've bought a bunch of stuff because of your reviews, but not all are BG/GB affiliate links. I want you to get a piece of the pie!
im interested in where the moment would be on this arm and its hard as no two crashes are from the same angle it seems.. love to see if this takes off and the aluminium might be the key! and either way huge respect to taking a leap!
Yeah looks great. If you went with the runcam split, you'd be able to mount the circuit board on top of the plate I reckon - cause you won't be putting a HD cam there.
Cool design stew i can't wait to fly the manned versions. Beats traffic.😂
Always interested in your reviews Stu! I'd love to hear your opinions of a Skyline Raptor210 if you can get your hands on one. (Already ordered but just like to hear your opinion on things ;)
Good review! I put an idea for a frame down on paper, but haven't done anything else with it (where does the time go?)... My idea also had the 'vertically-aligned' spars for the motor arms... [sigh]
Hey Stewie, please can you do another review on the new version of the FX goggle. P.s. I love your videos! I'm only just entering the hobby and am looking at investing in some goggles. Keep up the good work!
It’s amazing
Need some help fast. Is the Futaba remote that comes with RealFlight Drone simulator a good remote to use when I get an actual race drone?? If so, I'm heading out to get the simulator now!!
awsome awsome awsome ow nice looks great its got a really nice look to that machine awsome great job
So I absolutely love the frame and while doing some research on their website they actually have two options of side plates one for a two stack and one for a three stack .... So I'm guessing the one you reviewed was technically at to stack side plate either way I love it and looking to purchase hopefully they can ship to the states
man! you have so many drones!!!!
looks neat.
I love it! Need to tuck a microswift in there somehow
Building one of these at the moment and I have to say I'm super impressed with the high quality of this frame. The fit and finish of this frame is exceptional and they have made sure the tolerances of all the parts are super tight. I've seen people crash these things pretty hard and they stand up fine. They have been out in the wild for a while now with some Korean pilots racing them. Karearea Drones have just released 4" & 6" arms fort he frame and have all the spear parts in stock...spear arm sells for $9USD. They are about to release a even lighter version that has the arms made with composite material sandwiched between the carbon, pretty sure this is being designed for drag racing. Can't wait to get this in the air and rip it.
Do you have some kind of partlist?
schelien, I finished this build with T-Motor F60's, Aikon 4in1 esc & Revolt FC. It's a really good frame and flys on rails. It's super tough, only thing I've broken is the vtx mounting hole at the back of the top plate and jus from running a triumph stubby and it taking a direct hit when I hit the ground fully upside down. I now run the triumph out the back of the frame... Hope this answers your question
Tasman Drone Racers Aotearoa Thanks i think i'll get one.
Hey Stu, i'm a big fan from central africa (malawi) and beginner at fpv drones. Could you post a video on how you would assemble and wire from parts your armattan chameleon (maybe use the new runcam split and new betaflight f3 board).It would really help me and a lot of new pilots to see the wiring of a board with built in PDB. keep up the great content!
Hey Stu. I'm a massive fan of uavfutures. I was wondering if your going to do a review of the talon copy's by realacc...The Real 1 and the Real 1S (Stretched). To buy a Karearea Talon it's Going to cost me close too £180 with shipping and import tax to the UK but for the real 1s from Bangood it's only costing me just under £50 delivered which is a no brainer. Keep the videos going mate theyre the best on you tube and you always seem so happy and positive when reviewing new products. Thanks Mark from Newcastle upon Tyne UK.
i would suggest to replace the brace plates by 4 kevlar strands from rotor to rotor.
so in case of crash it would just pull from the side instead of pushing the rear.
Now ppl start getting it. I designed my first quads (the Velocity series from CarbiX in Sweden) with standing arms over 3 years ago. Now they are in top of the league here i Sweden. :-) To bad i didn't start selling them international earlier.. Soon the website for international orders will be up though.
too late ;)
Jimmy Sippel hej Jimmy, var kan man beställa national? :)
Inom Sverige hittar du dom på carbix.se, längst ner på sidan.
Beautiful design indeed :)
However the FPV camera is hanging like "Please destroy me, make me feel what is pain lol"
Have a great week daddy stu :)
ABMNS PRODUCTION Well it's on the better side than frames like the Diatone Crusader. I mean that's a superb frame don't get me wrong but the camera on that is like naked at the front covered by literally nothing. And that frame still got less criticism about the camera protection.
Was this a 2 or 3 layer? Curious, because that might help get the RunCam Split in.
I am a new guy and just wanted to toss a concept out there an ask you to shoot it down as you have more experience with builds than anyone else I know of. My thought is that if a quad was built essentially upside down with care taken to place the flight controller at the cg as well as at the prop line thus the center of force using thin profile or maybe vertical motor arms to reduce air flow disruption. You could produce a bottom battery racing quad with the handling feel of the top battery acro setups in cornering. Also the mounting surface for GoPro would be un cluttered. What am I missing?
looks awesome. n will take a runcam split
very awesome
is there a reason why not to solder the wire in the holes on the boards instead of making as a pad?
G'day Stu! Have you seen any frames that use lighting strike (titanium twill) carbon fiber or carbotanium?
Stew..do they sell this as a complete package or frame only? I couldn't figure out their site?
2 part video. oh man I wanna watch it fly nowwww
Mabey you could try and mount your ESCs to the side of the arms instead
of getting a 4 in 1. Would that work? Just curious:)
Stew!!! If I’m using a turnigy evolution will I need the tall sided talon frame? Nobody can give me a good answer. Nobody talks about there being two style frames while building. Pulling my hair out and ready to order.
Have you tried the realacc clone of this frame? I'm curious as to how it would stand up to the original.
Any reason you prefer the ia6c over the x6b??
It's great to see that more companies are moving towards custom aluminium mounting components (i've been impressed with the Chameleon). Until recently everyone has been so set on only using carbon components with posts and bolts, but right-angle tab/slot carbon connections are difficult to get right and add weak points. The cost of machining bespoke aluminium component designs in bulk must have come down recently.
So UAVfutures... I just wrecked my Tyrant S frame (lost signal in flight). What should i replace it with?
Thinking either just a new Tyrant S frame (cheap), Armattan Chameleon or perhaps even this.. Or is it any other I should look at? Mostly for freestyle.
chameleon is my fav and it has a warranty
So good~~!!! Is it korean racing drone frame~??
my first build I cant wait to fly it
very interesting frame, will be good to see how it flies, its similar to the Skyline Rampage frame...there is one that has a cable that hold the arms in place but its not very strong....... these newer ones look much stronger.......
Can someone give me a parts list please? Really want to get into rhis hobby after buying a mavic pro but have no idea where to buy or what to buy. Think ill be getting this talon frame but no idea on everything else
Have you tried the x foot 2600kv motors? They look promising
again,
Stu, you have got to check out the Skyline Rampage. please let me know what you think. review it, mod it, fly it !!! this one really changes everything...
but thanks for this video
Bacardiish keen question there bruh, do u know anyone who is using this frame already? I mean, I would like to see a clearer video or some pics. Looks different and interested to know how the motor plates and arms are fitted. Thanks mate
yes this is an interesting design. My first thought is the support spars would be very vulnerable to breakage against an object (like a tree or pole). I ordered the Rampage from Skyline Innovations to try out the vertically mounted arms and because I had such a good experience with their Raptor 210 frame. I might put this one on my wish list as well to see how two different vertical arm designs hold up. Nice job again Stu...hurry up with pt. 2!
oh i agree, i havent seen anyone with it, but from the looks of the design and aerodynamics of it, im just predicting it now, this one will change everything
and Stu has been doing such great reviews of gear that we actually do go out and buy, you know Im going to buy one, I just might buy 2 just to get one for Stu so he could do his thing with it and make a video for it, i want him to be one of the ones to review it first
Keep up the Great work Stu
Filthy5150RC has a prototype up on a vid you can find.
mash supremacy The RCAddict has a Rampage build video
This frame is simply stunning to look at, just love it. I notices the designer made reference on the website to S.Korea as well as New Zealand, so perhaps the name kind of sounds similar to way one would pronounce "Korea" but with an "A" but this is just a guess...just saying.
nice video
Would a runcam split fit with an all in one esc and the flight controller ?
oh yeah got my answer at 8:57 ...
since you have so many drones, is there one that is like your all time favorite personal flyer?
I actually think there is a new split on race spec and freestyle design. This little Talon looks excellent for the racing scene and will be part of this new rift between the two styles. I think the heavier flatter designs will still be great for freestyling since aerodynamics aren't as stringent there. The vertical design of the arms, even though might not be significant when looking at it, might actually help push the air down causing a low pressure above the arms, causing a higher lift. This will allow for more angle and higher horizontal thrust. I see this being a wonderful racer. Sorry about getting lightly technical. Aeronautics is an old hobby of mine.
dude where can i buy this? i love the green talon svx.. i wanna build a very fast and great handling race drone for racing not acro
David Downs read the description
hey Stew was that the regular or PR (Pure Racing) version that you have there?
Chuck Durham his got the regular ver, PR ver just last night in stock
Should i buy the attitude v2 or the predator v2 ? Whats the difference?
Thanks
attitudes are much better but they are up to version 4 now
I am beyond crazy impressed i cant imagine what it flys like, must be just like a dirty frame so aerodynamically it should be fine.. But i would bet the arms hold up like champs, any warrenty plans that you know of like the chameleon? and ps Any chance of a give away for some of us that can only afford to dream of new gear atm? and thanks again see ya tomorrow fam !
not sure about the warranty sorry
Theoretically those vertical arms introduces more obstruction against wind compared to horizontal arms. The horizontal ones would easily cut through air.
Can you test in near feature the Skyline Rampage?!
Can you try the Runcam Split on the Armattan Japalura?
LOL that chameleon has its own forest withing.
runs on green energy
I always been a big fan of this design my biggest problem with the talon is that it's $115us then an arm an a leg to ship. Other then that it is beautiful just hope they get some distribution in the USA.
If it is true-X then you could use the side bars as the front and back bars too
it is stretch
How are the transparent props called?
hey I was watching ur 200$ drone vid I'm a bit confused where do u put the battery?
It seems they could make the frame even more aerodynamic by angling the arms into the general direction of the air by how it flies. As the drone sits on the table instead of making the frame vertical, make it at an angle. I'm sure there's a sweet spot in there somewhere of the average angle the drone flies at. Or really even just make the angle at the maximum angle when the drone is at maximum speed forward. So when it's sitting on a table the frame would look a little "warped", but once it's actually flying through the air that angle would come into play and there would be the least amount of drag possible while at that velocity. [thumbs up]But what do I know. I'm just a drunken newbie pilot. :/
if you're gunna go vert. why have a camera and pod as a standard horizontal plate item? these vert designs aren't maximizing the strength and protection given from a minimal approach to design. looks mad tho :)
I agree also you weren't using nowhere near enough prop anything with a 2306 needs at least a 5050 pitch prop I use a 3 blade
Looking forward to longer term durability
When does Grumpy Trev come back for the flight review?
Then do you know xbee frame~?? It also korean frame
If you're going to review another kiwi frame, stu, you should take a look at the Proof 220! if it's good enough for snake :)
we did talk about this
UAV ITS A Maori word named after a bird in NZ. I think from memory a Falcon which is an endangered species. nice review
Not sure about the merit of the curved top surface as opposed to a flat top. That just makes mounting a camera harder. Runcam split maybe...but space looks doubtful.
Tobermory Cat they have a simple and clean mount on the website for cameras that you can grab.
Watching this I was put off. Alternative top sounds good. Thanks.
Can we all agree that the next thing Stu needs to buy is a set of better calipers?
ha totally, been rocking these ones from the start when I had to go cheap lol
Even the $20 ones are decent enough.
Can you do a Talon build? Please!
been waiting for designers to come out with this idea, seamed the next logical evolution... aerodynamics, now just get an egg shaped canopy on it...
My next drone
This frame is really cool and innovative. its great to see people chase the idea of mounting the armplates sideways.
there is one flaw about that i had never thought about before, if you get sand or mud in the motors you have to remove them from the arms to get to the screw or the C-clip.
Soliton FPV the aluminium mount on this frame covers the bottom bearing and the c clip so It will be well away from dirts
yes the bottom of the motor is well protected but i am thinking when dirt gets in the top, then we sometimes need to get to the bottom of the motor to remove the motor bell.
This is still the coolest frame with sideways arms i have ever seen, cant wait for part 2 of this review.
I think this frame looks really good and the horizontal arms will be good for racing, but it costs 115 USD for the 5inch frame..... that is pretty expensive imo
It's just like you've got a Career with Chris Rea!😊 so you say it like a Carea with Rea or Carea Rea😊😊 cheers Stewy baby..😊
How much does the frame alone weight?
99g
Thanks :)
your welcome~
😍😍😍
Thin arms but then the centre bulk is down flat and not minimised at all!
what are the specs of this
I hate having a camera hanging out! I guttet my gt2 and put all the components in a qav frame. at 30-50 bucks a shot cams are a bit pricey.. I get light weight and such but break the camera and the fun is over..
twig mk 2?
What kind antena you used...taufik from indonesa
When are you gonna post the next QnA.................
sunday
Ok..... Thanks😊😊
Hey Stu i think you are going to need a bigger wall