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  • @Ducttapestuff
    @Ducttapestuff Pƙed 10 lety +2864

    Funny that the first thing I thought about when Rory and Amy vanished forever was not the Doctor and how he felt, but Rory's dad who would never know what happened. Glad that this short film exists, it definetly needed closure.

    • @shobisen1014
      @shobisen1014 Pƙed 10 lety +55

      SAME!

    • @MissCraftCakes
      @MissCraftCakes Pƙed 10 lety +79

      I felt that same way too. I felt really bad for Brian, and I remember wishing that thy had shown him react to the death of Amy and Rory.

    • @sirgeen
      @sirgeen Pƙed 10 lety +16

      He was awesome, and I enjoyed him so much.

    • @Howiesangel45
      @Howiesangel45 Pƙed 10 lety +11

      I thought the very same thing! I LOVE this!!

    • @amymorgon3196
      @amymorgon3196 Pƙed 9 lety +6

      Why can't he just go to a parallel version of the earth

  • @FlamesAndShadows
    @FlamesAndShadows Pƙed 9 lety +2245

    I'm crying. Characters like Brian and Wilf will always have a special place in my heart.

    • @kyngkazmius3864
      @kyngkazmius3864 Pƙed 4 lety +61

      FlamesAndShadows I find it really unfortunate that none of the doctors after the 10th one went back to visit Wilf

    • @jimharry8080
      @jimharry8080 Pƙed 4 lety +46

      @@kyngkazmius3864 it thoroughly angers me that Smith & capaldi never visited wilf,

    • @georgelinford5576
      @georgelinford5576 Pƙed 3 lety +29

      Wilf needs to come back one day.

    • @oshb5559
      @oshb5559 Pƙed 3 lety +18

      George Linford Yeah I agree Bernard Cribbins (The act of Wilf.) is in his 90s now so he sadly may not have that many years left.

    • @liesmazarina7578
      @liesmazarina7578 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      I almost cried too!

  • @KthulhuXxx
    @KthulhuXxx Pƙed 8 lety +1894

    It's insane that they never actually shot this, even if only for a DVD extra. It easily would have been the best of the mini-episodes.

    • @SunnieMonroe
      @SunnieMonroe Pƙed 8 lety +69

      +Ben Bullock The actor playing Rory's dad wasn't available, if I'm correct.

    • @DoctorDodge
      @DoctorDodge Pƙed 7 lety +28

      2nd best, at least, considering The Night of the Doctor, but a VERY close second best.

    • @ChannelReuploads9451
      @ChannelReuploads9451 Pƙed 4 lety +15

      @@SunnieMonroe That would have been when Mark Williams was right in the middle of filming Harry potter: And the Prisoner of Azkaban. And possible filming of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (only released 1 year after Azkaban)
      Arthur Weasley, Ron's father.

    • @caitlin329
      @caitlin329 Pƙed 4 lety +53

      @@ChannelReuploads9451 what? This is years after all of the Harry Potter films had been released.

    • @SomeRandomGuy908
      @SomeRandomGuy908 Pƙed 4 lety +24

      @@ChannelReuploads9451 This is incorrect, he was filming some smaller scale TV show

  • @UnchainedEruption
    @UnchainedEruption Pƙed 9 lety +1361

    This is reminds me of the Blink episode, where Sally's friend disappears, and then a letter is delivered to Sally by her descendant detailing how the Angels sent her back in time.

    • @roguexxrenegade
      @roguexxrenegade Pƙed 5 lety +77

      Mr. JustAGuyWithALightsaber That’s... kinda the point.

    • @zhoaibraja2992
      @zhoaibraja2992 Pƙed 5 lety +31

      Exactly the same concept

    • @ChannelReuploads9451
      @ChannelReuploads9451 Pƙed 4 lety +23

      It is common in a lot of Time stories.
      Back to the future 2, Marty see's the Delorian hit by lightning, then a few seconds after, a courier delivers a letter, from The Doc, in the past.
      Blink - Cathy is sent to the past by the Angel, just as her Grandson delivers the letter, to Sally, at the Wester Drumlin Mansion.
      This, Amy and Rory's adopted Son delivering their letter, to their father / Stepfather, his grandfather.

    • @adamgreen7957
      @adamgreen7957 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      Brian White Brian isn’t Amy’s step father

    • @froztikYT
      @froztikYT Pƙed 4 lety +15

      Think it is meant to be a sort of callback to that moment aside from the main meaning of the minisode, like an side easter egg for the fans!

  • @dayschange2
    @dayschange2 Pƙed 5 lety +568

    It's a shame that this was never properly shot, but I'm so glad that Arthur Darvill was able to do the voice over. Going by my full on cry session just now, he did an amazing job.

  • @7effco
    @7effco Pƙed 10 lety +882

    I didn't know a five-minute mini episode could cause this many FEELS.

    • @RTS-wg7ut
      @RTS-wg7ut Pƙed 10 lety +22

      I know, they should have titled it, "P.S.: Feels," or just simply "Feels." Maybe "Parliament Feeladelic" is going too far.

    • @TheWhovinerd-1963
      @TheWhovinerd-1963 Pƙed rokem +6

      This literally broke my heart as I was talking to my dad about it once when doing a rewatch of Doctor who and got to series 7 I said how it was sad that Brian told them to go with the doctor and that literally in their next adventure die and he never knew.
      so it’s nice to see that this is a fitting conclusion to the episode which they should have released in the dvd as an extra. Or shot it as a special Minisode.
      I cried Ahah I love the ponds but im glad that they had a happy ending xx

  • @dayschange2
    @dayschange2 Pƙed 4 lety +551

    Damnit, Chibnall! Why didn't you bring THIS kind of quality writing to Thirteen's run?

    • @hothemeep1219
      @hothemeep1219 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Because he did imo

    • @tardistime6857
      @tardistime6857 Pƙed 3 lety +23

      Lazy maybe ?

    • @NymphieJP
      @NymphieJP Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@hothemeep1219 lol did you have a stroke? His writing for Thriteenth's was dogshit hahahahaha

    • @MythicFox
      @MythicFox Pƙed rokem +69

      Not a defense of Chibnall, but writing a scene like this is a different set of skills than shaping a longer story.

    • @jessie-xt9iu
      @jessie-xt9iu Pƙed rokem +19

      @@MythicFox chibnal also wrote alot of torchwood and several episodes of doctor who before 13s era though! (not going against chibnal because i love the 13th doctor and majority of her episodes)

  • @laal67
    @laal67 Pƙed 9 lety +846

    I wish Anthony could meet River... It would be an interesting story.

    • @prof-eon
      @prof-eon Pƙed 6 lety +56

      When she regenerated in let's kill hitler she said "HELLO ANTHONY !!!" And no one understood. Perhaps she knew about him

    • @Iloveowlets
      @Iloveowlets Pƙed 6 lety +104

      Actually, she said hello Benjamin, but I still don't get that

    • @theUselessProfessor
      @theUselessProfessor Pƙed 6 lety +143

      FlameFox 07 "It is a reference to the movie 'The Graduate', which is about a young man, Benjamin, who was seduced by his older neighbour, Mrs. Robinson. Melody was referencing a scene from the movie as a joke about how much older she looks in comparison to the Doctor. The Doctor made a similar joke in "The Impossible Astronaut", in which River (aka Melody) is given the code name 'Mrs. Robinson'."

    • @aceanimations3214
      @aceanimations3214 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      True

    • @homeschoolingrules1
      @homeschoolingrules1 Pƙed 5 lety +27

      Well, not exactly River but Mels regenerated into a toddler "in the middle of New York" (1969) so he might've been her big brother :)

  • @stephen5060
    @stephen5060 Pƙed 4 lety +225

    The thing with Chris Chibnall is that he's a good writer when he's writing for other people's characters but rarely hits the mark when he has to make his own characters. Brian is the main exception

    • @thanhonguyen1100
      @thanhonguyen1100 Pƙed 4 lety +8

      I think it is only true for heartbreaking scenes, such as this and Exit Wounds in Torchwood.

    • @arjujannaka9807
      @arjujannaka9807 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      I think it’s more to writing character-driven stories. Science fiction isnt really his forte

    • @tardistime6857
      @tardistime6857 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      I personally don’t like his work I think he is a very lazy writer but I may be bias thanks to the timeless child sorry

    • @MythicFox
      @MythicFox Pƙed rokem +12

      @@tardistime6857 He's done some solid work outside of Doctor Who, but it is true that a lot of his Doctor Who and Torchwood writing is abominable, and he should have stepped back and focused more on the production side of being a showrunner and not tried to write so much of it himself.

    • @joekreissl4499
      @joekreissl4499 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

      looking at the actual dialogue and separating it from the context, brian was carried by the performance of mark williams under good directors

  • @ceruleanwalker1069
    @ceruleanwalker1069 Pƙed 8 lety +318

    The most heartbreaking moment of Doctor WHo, and it was never filmed.

  • @charliebann5605
    @charliebann5605 Pƙed 4 lety +220

    I love how Rory and Amy got their final moments
    Amy got to write a letter to the Doctor giving him her glasses
    And Rory got to send a letter to his dad giving him a grandson

  • @ItsAnca
    @ItsAnca Pƙed 9 lety +590

    CRYING

  • @grennysohail
    @grennysohail Pƙed 10 lety +511

    This is probably the best short that they had for this series. It bring more closure to the episode and tied in Brian who was somewhat involved in the Doctor's affairs. It also shows that Brian would not be alone since he got to meet his grandson and spend the rest of his time with him. I really really wish they added this into the episode as a extra long special or just have it acted out as a Doctor Who Short.

  • @deanochannel
    @deanochannel Pƙed 8 lety +597

    Good thing that Weeping Angel wasn't a complete a hole and zapped Amy back to a completely different time than Rory, that would suck

    • @LiamWilkinstheoneandonly
      @LiamWilkinstheoneandonly Pƙed 7 lety +91

      The same angle typically (I do believe ALWAYS) zaps people back to the same relative instant of the past (lucky eh? though to be fair they introduced that rule in Blink, so it's less plot convenience and more legit luck)

    • @deanochannel
      @deanochannel Pƙed 7 lety +35

      Liam Wilkins Dang... that is lucky, very lucky for Amy especially, I had a feeling that was the case and not just a random point in the past for each person. Thank you :) it's fun to nerd out

    • @deanochannel
      @deanochannel Pƙed 7 lety +10

      AmbientStudios Didn't notice that, wow that is even sadder, like on the levels of sad of when Seymour waited for Fry at the end of that Futurama episode

    • @jamjamcamjam
      @jamjamcamjam Pƙed 7 lety +26

      I kind of want to believe for the sake of my own heart that the angel was being somewhat sympathetic when Amy was sent to a similar time.

    • @nikobaston8089
      @nikobaston8089 Pƙed 7 lety +18

      I like to think the Angel in the graveyard was this universe's version of Angel Bob

  • @chicken5068
    @chicken5068 Pƙed 9 lety +298

    Well I didn't need my feelings anyway

  • @NathanAu
    @NathanAu Pƙed 9 lety +661

    And just as they hug, a saddened Doctor looks through the window. Then solemnly goes into his tardis and materilises. Roll credits.

    • @BoMwarriorVlog
      @BoMwarriorVlog Pƙed 8 lety +41

      +Nathan Au Best. Addition. Ever. For a unfilmed Doctor Who short. ;)

    • @J_R1996
      @J_R1996 Pƙed 8 lety +79

      +Nathan Au Even worse, River. Brian doesn't even know about her.

    • @RedDragonForce2
      @RedDragonForce2 Pƙed 8 lety +48

      +Jayashree Roopchand Best that he doesn't. Her life is not only too complicated for them to explain to him, the fact that her life is all out of order, and that he actually knew her as Mel, Amy's best friend who ALWAYS got in trouble... ALWAYS, would blow his mind and break his heart. He would have died from the paradox of knowledge!!

    • @foreverwinchester533
      @foreverwinchester533 Pƙed 8 lety +5

      +Jayashree Roopchand nooooooo I didn't even think about that I'm crying so much rn

    • @morgan4224
      @morgan4224 Pƙed 8 lety +11

      +Nathan Au If it's the tardis leaving it would be dematerialising

  • @KendrixTermina
    @KendrixTermina Pƙed 9 lety +412

    I like how they didn't magically end up with another baby, but took the pragmatic route and simply adopted.
    Although I wonder if Anthony ever met his big sister.
    Still, given how long Rory has been dreaming of being a father, it was rather emotionally satisfying to see him finally get his wish/ get to actually raise a kid.

    • @ser132
      @ser132 Pƙed 9 lety +26

      Adoption: that's a good point. Because Amy told Rory that she could not go through with having a kid again, but it might be different if they adopted. She might have been able to handle adopting a kid, just not being pregnant and giving birth.

    • @KendrixTermina
      @KendrixTermina Pƙed 9 lety +71

      ser132 I don't think she meant that in the sense of being unable to handle it emotionally, but that she was literally rendered infertile as a side-effect of all the experimenting/modifying Kovarian's henchmen did on Baby!River while still in the womb.

    • @ser132
      @ser132 Pƙed 9 lety +8

      KendrixTermina oh, that makes sense, too. good point, thanks

    • @jakequaza3567
      @jakequaza3567 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      Would be cool if he ends up being one of the doctor’s companions later down the line

  • @lexieoflalaland
    @lexieoflalaland Pƙed 10 lety +502

    Dammit Rory, why didn't you just GET BACK IN THE TARDIS WHEN THE DOCTOR TOLD YOU TO?!?

    • @tarantulasrus7388
      @tarantulasrus7388 Pƙed 5 lety +23

      They'd already caused a paradox - and we witnessed elderly Rory die, which was a fixed point in time. The Doctor can never go back and rescue either of them.

    • @erenakay8873
      @erenakay8873 Pƙed 5 lety +73

      @@tarantulasrus7388 No. That old dying rory was erased from existence. If rory never looked that tombstone maybe he would enter the tardis and fly off and that tombstone would really be someone elses with the same name.

    • @puerhindulgence3653
      @puerhindulgence3653 Pƙed 5 lety +17

      @@erenakay8873 He still got taken by the angels and died anyway. Only, in that reality, Amy was with him. He still might have died in that room (a hospital) and imagined young Amy as he died. He could have had dementia and forgotten the Amy who grew old with him.
      Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey...

    • @jaredwilson1343
      @jaredwilson1343 Pƙed 4 lety +31

      @@erenakay8873 Reading the tombstone was like reading ahead in the book, it would create a fixed point in time.

    • @shaunhumphreys6714
      @shaunhumphreys6714 Pƙed 4 lety +24

      @@jaredwilson1343 yes exactly, so she shouldn't have been reading tombstones, but just got back in the stupid tardis, rather than messing around. the same thing happened in stolen earth, where given they were escaping, and speed was of the essence, the doctor decides this to be a great time to poke around at the crack in space and time, but one of the warrior silurians is just about still alive and tried to kill the doctor, rory takes a bullet for the doctor, and not only dies, but being by the crack means he gets erased from existence. entirely the doctor's fault. given all the stuff with the angels manhattan, how dangerous the whole episode had been, they should have been desperate to leave straight away, but no, they are messing around outside fiddling with the tardis and rory thinks it's the splendidly perfect time to be browsing tombstones and invite amy to take a look.there is this pattern of being far too complacent, unfocussed after getting out of a dangerous near death situation. it is logical to escape right away to safety. But no. They do stuff like this. And it really irritates me. another example is the twelfth doctor who was really responsible for bill potts getting a hole blown into her chest, and then being converted into the early version of the cyberman. the doctor casually put his feet up in the tardis and had missy lead the mission along with bill. missy had a sonic screwdriver in her umbrella, and the doctor had sonic screwdriver and shades, either of which capable of disarming that stupid idiot who shoots bill. weve seen the eleventh doctor using sonic blasts from the screwdriver to blast weapons out of the hands of opponents all the time. and the twelfth doctor's sonic tech is totally equal to the eleventh's.he should have disarmed the man's weapon, then got them all back on the tardis and departed.

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 Pƙed 7 lety +110

    Anthony was the brother River Song never knew she had.

  • @spiderslayer3640
    @spiderslayer3640 Pƙed 2 lety +96

    Wow. 9 Years Later and this short STILL makes me cry. And to think, Chris FRIGGIN’ Chibnall wrote this. Holy Shit

    • @JamesTobiasStewart
      @JamesTobiasStewart Pƙed 2 lety +16

      This is the best thing he ever wrote for DW in my opinion, a touching, well performed goodbye.
      It helps that for me, his best episodes were when he was writing for the 11, Amy & Rory combo.

    • @spiderslayer3640
      @spiderslayer3640 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@JamesTobiasStewart 100% Agreed

    • @J75Pootle
      @J75Pootle Pƙed rokem +6

      It's episodes like this that really convince me that Chibnall was screwed over by higher ups when he was writing for 13, because he's clearly a very good writer but so many moments in 13s run (especially the first season) are just so clunky and awkward, and I think that's because he was told he had to include at least X amount of representation for different things and address X number of issues and so he tried to stuff them in which makes them feel forced

    • @madmangogaming
      @madmangogaming Pƙed rokem +2

      @@J75Pootle I don't think that's true at all, he's demonstrated he's capable of good writing in bursts but if you look at his earlier Doctor Who contributions (which are awful), the 2nd and 3rd seasons of Broadchurch and a lot of the mixed bag that is Torchwood, he just isn't up to the task of writing consistently well

  • @slightstrider
    @slightstrider Pƙed 10 lety +157

    This is a proper denouement for Amy, Rory, and Brian.
    It's a crime that this hasn't been committed to film... yet.

  • @mylovelyuniverse
    @mylovelyuniverse Pƙed 10 lety +167

    first Fred now Rory! he just can't get a break can he?

    • @prof.evilpictures8696
      @prof.evilpictures8696 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      mylovelyuniverse why???! đŸ˜«đŸ˜©đŸ˜­đŸ˜„đŸ˜ąđŸ˜ż

  • @williamhatcher4795
    @williamhatcher4795 Pƙed rokem +53

    I don't know if I could have handled this in the episode. The Doctor begging Amy to come into the TARDIS while both are in tears is one of the saddest scenes I've ever watched.

  • @rebelprincess1164
    @rebelprincess1164 Pƙed 2 lety +36

    You can say whatever you want on Chris’ run of Doctor Who, but I’ll always be grateful for this

  • @radic888
    @radic888 Pƙed 4 lety +49

    Don’t underestimate the influence of Gold’s music on the emotional impact of this scene.

  • @tjac4873
    @tjac4873 Pƙed 8 lety +82

    I was fine until I heard Rory's voice. Now I'm here with tears streaming down my face. WTH!?

  • @CrystalWong
    @CrystalWong Pƙed 10 lety +134

    I can't even look at the video... I'm crying so hard

    • @WillChannel02
      @WillChannel02 Pƙed 9 lety +2

      Crystal Wong Your profile picture explains what you looked like!

    • @CrystalWong
      @CrystalWong Pƙed 9 lety +1

      Majorbomper yes, why yes it does :)

    • @CutieSnoopy0727
      @CutieSnoopy0727 Pƙed 9 lety +3

      LITERALLY CRYING :((
      It would be more intense if it was included in the scene.. GAHD, just.. Gah! It's sad and beautiful at the same time

    • @SHSLRuby
      @SHSLRuby Pƙed 9 lety

      ***** Moffat didn't write this scene.

  • @Joemother76
    @Joemother76 Pƙed 10 lety +129

    No, it's alright, someone stuck onions in my eyes.

  • @francineleahy
    @francineleahy Pƙed 10 lety +154

    river has a brother :)

    • @nebullae
      @nebullae Pƙed 10 lety +12

      Well Anthony was adopted, so not blood siblings at least.

    • @francineleahy
      @francineleahy Pƙed 10 lety +59

      but still siblings :)

    • @daiujin
      @daiujin Pƙed 5 lety +4

      êč€ë‚˜ì€ why couldn't they make a child together?

    • @daiujin
      @daiujin Pƙed 5 lety

      busi magen oh i see, wow

    • @geraldine819
      @geraldine819 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      because before the events of A good man goes to war, apparently the woman with the patch and his team make Amy steril, something like that she says in the episode Asylum of the daleks, that's why they can't have more childrens :(

  • @danielsanderson4926
    @danielsanderson4926 Pƙed 10 lety +91

    They should have filmed this it would have pulled more heart strings but I love it

  • @richartedigital
    @richartedigital Pƙed 8 lety +101

    This is what I love this show! It's not only about "An alien man travelling through time and space with human companions", it's also about the consequences in the lives of those human companion and the choices they make. Beautiful video by the way!

  • @DooMDrat
    @DooMDrat Pƙed 9 lety +33

    This is making me cry.
    It was my dad's 75th birthday just yesterday, and three days ago his older brother passed away suddenly. My mum and dad have gone to my uncle's funeral in the country. He was the only sibling in Australia; the others lived in England and he's only got two other siblings left, AFAIK. The last time he would have seen them in person (except the brother) was in 1987, when we flew to England.
    He at least got the opportunity to see his brother a couple years ago. A picture they took at the time indicated that my uncle had not done so well, probably due to heavy drinking and smoking; you'd honestly think they were father and son, how old my uncle looked. In 1997, they looked very similar.
    I don't always get along with my dad, and a great many things about him royally shit me off at times, but this makes me cry. I want to hug him. At least he's got a grandson on the way, sometime this month. I'm gonna be an uncle!

    • @danivarius
      @danivarius Pƙed 8 lety +2

      I am sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences to you and your family.

  • @BloodNote
    @BloodNote Pƙed 10 lety +132

    Wow that was so sad. They should have filmed that. :(

  • @WonderfulAkari
    @WonderfulAkari Pƙed 8 lety +570

    Mister Weasley loses another son!

    • @CrystalWong
      @CrystalWong Pƙed 8 lety +54

      +WonderfulAkari TOO SOON

    • @chairmanofdabored4120
      @chairmanofdabored4120 Pƙed 8 lety +1

      +WonderfulAkari Pwhahahahhahaha

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 Pƙed 8 lety +35

      +WonderfulAkari
      "Mister Weasley loses another son!"
      Oh, my goodness - I knew I remembered that actor but couldn't place him!
      There are not enough facepalms in the world for this failure!

    • @karawebber5790
      @karawebber5790 Pƙed 8 lety +7

      NOO TOO SOON

    • @coathee
      @coathee Pƙed 8 lety +10

      +WonderfulAkari GO TO THE CORNER

  • @thekiss2083
    @thekiss2083 Pƙed 10 lety +783

    Wow. If "The Angels Take Manhattan" had ended this way, I would have actually liked it.

    • @xiLegendaryGamingx
      @xiLegendaryGamingx Pƙed 9 lety +43

      Same, the whole Doctor going back to Amy as a child just didn't make any sense

    • @thekiss2083
      @thekiss2083 Pƙed 9 lety +38

      iLegendaryGaming | FIFA 15, Minecraft, GTA 5 and More!
      I didn't like how the Ponds died by jumping off a building, but they survived, but OH WAIT they died because the paradox didn't kill every Angel. It's like, write one ending for your episode, Moffat. Don't make the audience invest emotionally in one ending, then yank it away and replace it with a different one.

    • @xiLegendaryGamingx
      @xiLegendaryGamingx Pƙed 9 lety +76

      TheKiss Rory got a shit send off aswell, when he jumped, the Doctor didn't even call his name, and then that angel just took him by surprise, and then that was it, Amy got all the emotions, and big send off, fuck all for Rory

    • @thekiss2083
      @thekiss2083 Pƙed 9 lety +36

      iLegendaryGaming | FIFA 15, Minecraft, GTA 5 and More!
      That's kind of how Rory was treated for most of his time on the show, tbh. That's one of the reasons I didn't like the Ponds much. Rory was much more likeable than Amy but he never got anything interesting to do. He was always just wandering off or getting killed or captured so Amy could be cool.

    • @xiLegendaryGamingx
      @xiLegendaryGamingx Pƙed 9 lety +52

      TheKiss I like both of them equally, and I like that they introduced Rory's Dad to give him more of a life. But yeah, you do get the feeling The Doctor didn't even like Rory

  • @cosmogryal610
    @cosmogryal610 Pƙed 9 lety +51

    I always wondered what had happened to Amy and Rory after they disappeared. And this makes me so happy.

  • @Shippou011
    @Shippou011 Pƙed 10 lety +40

    For those asking, this scene was never shot because one of the actors availability fell through. I'm assuming it was Mark Williams, because if it was the guy playing Anthony they'd have been able to replace him easily.

  • @nathanfisch2587
    @nathanfisch2587 Pƙed 3 lety +59

    The greatest crime is the fact that the Timeless Child exists, but not this scene

  • @jonathanhamstra3319
    @jonathanhamstra3319 Pƙed 9 lety +271

    what in the tardis made them not put this at the end! i felt disappointed with angels take Manhattan because i loved rory and amy and they were my favorite companions and it felt like they had the worst ending.

    • @GallifreyeanTrailers
      @GallifreyeanTrailers Pƙed 9 lety +6

      +David Blake It is a fantastic scene, but it sadly fits nowhere in the actual episode.

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm Pƙed 9 lety +36

      +David Blake Two things: The first is that had they included this, the story would have had two separate endings-the result would be that it would weaken both. And, to be honest, the Amy/Doctor ending is more important to the story.The second thing is that they already did the "letter from long ago" in "Blink". It's the kind of plot device that works, but only if it's used very sparingly. It can't become a thing that always happens when someone ends up stuck back in time.

    • @jonathanhamstra3319
      @jonathanhamstra3319 Pƙed 9 lety +5

      ***** fair point, i still felt kinda disappointed with amy/rorys ending.

    • @GallifreyeanTrailers
      @GallifreyeanTrailers Pƙed 8 lety

      *****
      Possibly. Perhaps they couldn't get Karen and Mark Williams back at that point. It might have cost too much money to film.

    • @pandaphil
      @pandaphil Pƙed 8 lety +8

      +David Blake I recall reading somewhere that that the actor who played Rory's dad wasn't available in time. :/

  • @kevinandrachelnutini3427
    @kevinandrachelnutini3427 Pƙed 9 lety +28

    I was wondering about this very thing not that long ago. "What about Rory's dad, Brian?" So glad I found this.

  • @nekku19
    @nekku19 Pƙed 10 lety +11

    It's crazy how it works with just pictures, music and a little bit of imagination. Thank You.

  • @Foozdood77
    @Foozdood77 Pƙed 10 lety +41

    this should have been filmed... They got rory to read the letter aloud, but they couldnt get the actors to do this little minisode :( imagine if this happened right at the end of the episode. it would have been so terrible sad

  • @egilhegel9957
    @egilhegel9957 Pƙed 9 lety +451

    Why? Just why? Was this never shot?! This was an ending that actually respected Rory as a character and gave him a proper ending! I might have forgived all of the plot holes and badly written stuff if this scene had actually been there! Screw you Moffat :'(

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm Pƙed 9 lety +78

      I can think of a couple of reasons:
      The first is that the episode already had an ending--Amy's afterword in the book. Having effectively two endings weakens both of them. And as much as I liked Rory, the Amy/Doctor relationship was more important for the story than the Rory/Brian one.
      The second was that they already used the "letter delivered by a relative" device in "Blink". It's clever, but it becomes less clever the more often it's used.

    • @alexm7562
      @alexm7562 Pƙed 9 lety +85

      It was actually just because they ran out of time and never got the chance to film it and all. He was a busy man! Working for the ministry of magic and all.

    • @TheSkully343
      @TheSkully343 Pƙed 7 lety +48

      The emotional impact of the scene speaks far greater volumes than being 'clever' ever will.
      Not to mention that it touches upon something the show jettisoned along with the rest of the RTD Era. Consequences of what The Doctor's life can do to impact the loved ones of his companions.

    • @tiedyealways
      @tiedyealways Pƙed 6 lety +12

      Wikipedia says it was due to actor availability problems

    • @hyperbiscuit2284
      @hyperbiscuit2284 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      @@TheSkully343 Solidus-Skully I believe the Moffat Era dealt with those issues even more than the Davies era. I found that a lot of what I remember from the RTD's era focuses on the Doctor's problems and how they affect him, whereas most of what I remember from Moffat's run focuses on how the Doctor impacts other people. though, both runs focus on both thos aspects, I believe that Moffat does more with the affects on other characters than Davies does. That being said, i have definitely re-watched more Moffat run stuff than RTD run.

  • @sammib8633
    @sammib8633 Pƙed 8 lety +42

    'Cus, you know, Angels in Manhattan didn't give me the feels enough as it is

  • @polishbearsrawr
    @polishbearsrawr Pƙed 10 lety +40

    Why the HELL wasn't this shot?! Oh wow...god my heart is breaking, and I'm on the verge of tears...I just can't even...

    • @francineleahy
      @francineleahy Pƙed 10 lety +3

      I think one of the actors was unavailable or somthing

    • @francineleahy
      @francineleahy Pƙed 10 lety +4

      it's not to late to shot it now

    • @JustJeff777
      @JustJeff777 Pƙed 10 lety +2

      I can imagine Brians face omggg the feeels

    • @xiLegendaryGamingx
      @xiLegendaryGamingx Pƙed 9 lety +1

      Because Moffat doesn't give a shit about Rory, he just loved Amy. When they both jumped off of the building, the Doctor never called Rory's name, only Amy's. Did the Doctor even care about Rory?

    • @bradc9613
      @bradc9613 Pƙed 6 lety +4

      It wasn't filmed because Mark Williams (the actor who portrayed Brian) wasn't available.

  • @HelloDucN
    @HelloDucN Pƙed 9 lety +24

    How to not cry: Look at the the comments while you're watching this.

    • @HelloDucN
      @HelloDucN Pƙed 9 lety +23

      Note: I am still tearing up.

  • @bowtieanimation
    @bowtieanimation Pƙed 8 lety +348

    If Chris Chibnall can capture what he did here in the new series of Doctor Who in 2018...
    ...then the future will be in safe hands.

    • @ramiaedits5557
      @ramiaedits5557 Pƙed 6 lety +8

      Wish fulfilled.

    • @iceoriental123
      @iceoriental123 Pƙed 6 lety +11

      He's a Time Lord

    • @jasonpaulbaker1
      @jasonpaulbaker1 Pƙed 6 lety +9

      Character development and expansion is what Chibnall is best at, he understands these characters, especially how to write the doctor, this and Whitaker’s talent as an actor is what makes me super excited for series 11

    • @MondySpartan
      @MondySpartan Pƙed 5 lety +29

      This comment was made before Chris Chibnall was announced to replace Moffat as a writer.

    • @menameshiolo8532
      @menameshiolo8532 Pƙed 5 lety +26

      That's what we all thought.....

  • @noahdaglio9362
    @noahdaglio9362 Pƙed 10 lety +92

    Why wasn't this in The Angels Take Manhattan?!
    WHY?!!!?
    Oh god the feels why do they hurt so much?

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm Pƙed 10 lety +8

      There are a couple of possibilities (and this is largely conjecture, because I don't have an "in" with the Beeb or the Moff).
      It looks like the scene got as far as the "storyboard" stage. They may have realized the episode was going to run long, and there wasn't enough "trimming" that they could do in the rest of the episode to fit this in without the trimming upsetting the pacing of the rest of the episode.
      Another (possibly related) reason is that if you include the "afterward" in the book and this scene, you've got essentially two endings to the story. And as beautiful and touching as this scene ends, the "afterward" fits the flow of the story better-really the whole episode ties in with that ending. Also, the "letter from the long gone person" had already been done in "Blink", and they may have decided not to plow the same ground twice.
      It's not uncommon for actors to do ADR (Additional Dialogue Recording) for several episode in one trip to the recording studio (assuming they've got the scripts done). Darvill's voice-over could have been done several months before the scene got cut, but before they decided to actually film it. It may have even been recorded at the same time as Karen's VO for the episode--booking studio time is normally in increments of one hour, and the rates (at least 10 years ago in LA) started at about $500/hour

    • @V2Blast
      @V2Blast Pƙed 3 lety +1

      ​@@almostfm: The reason was apparently that the actor who plays Brian wasn't available.

    • @archiereilly419
      @archiereilly419 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@almostfm
      This has nothing to do with The Angels Take Manhattan. TATM was written by Moffat, while this was written by Chibnall

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@archiereilly419 Except that this was essentially written as a postscript to TATM to explain to Brian that, while he never saw them again, that they had lived a good life together.
      If it wasn't written for that purpose, then what episode would it have gone with?

  • @goji253
    @goji253 Pƙed 3 lety +8

    So did Chibnall just go insane between this and his run or something?

  • @godhathirumalaianandanpill3140

    The fact that this was written by CHRIS CHIBNALL-

  • @willlexie
    @willlexie Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Arthur Weasley finally has a life as a muggle but HE STILL LOST HIS SON!!!!!

  • @tommaczar673
    @tommaczar673 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Probably the only good thing Chibnal did for Doctor Who and it sadly never made it to screen.

  • @dilhowlter9562
    @dilhowlter9562 Pƙed 10 lety +47

    It's raining on my face

  • @Mister_Jay_Tee
    @Mister_Jay_Tee Pƙed 8 lety +231

    I realized Chris Chibnall made Rory's dad, yeah? And he wrote this too?
    He'll make a great show runner in that case.

    • @alexrobinson4802
      @alexrobinson4802 Pƙed 8 lety +1

      he wll

    • @TheJrbdog
      @TheJrbdog Pƙed 6 lety +5

      He also wrote the Cyberwomen episode of Torchwood, so...it will be at least be interesting.

    • @jasonpaulbaker1
      @jasonpaulbaker1 Pƙed 6 lety

      TheJrbdog every writer has there ups and downs

    • @bun6134
      @bun6134 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      Every Doctor Who episode Chiball wrote is the same. Just look at them. There's some companion in danger, there's a countdown, and the Doctor essentially solves the say by waving his sonic screwdriver around a bit.

    • @Pikabycolorz
      @Pikabycolorz Pƙed 5 lety +33

      I come from the future. Moffat was better.

  • @Chengification
    @Chengification Pƙed 10 lety +7

    It's amazing how still images and only Rory's voice could make me tear up. Bravo.

  • @brandonbaka1375
    @brandonbaka1375 Pƙed 4 lety +14

    How in THE HELL was this written by Chris Chibnall

  • @spokehedz
    @spokehedz Pƙed 10 lety +26

    How did all these cut onions suddenly get into my room?

  • @omarsonic9
    @omarsonic9 Pƙed 10 lety +180

    How Moffat was a troll:
    Doctor: Some of them died..but not them Brian, never them.
    *AFTER ONE EPISODE*
    Amy and Rory: lol bye we'll die ok.
    moffat: lol
    me: lol.wthoabmioahaekodkgaokhoawtkhaaothkaowhkoawkht
    *help me*

    • @erenakay8873
      @erenakay8873 Pƙed 5 lety +13

      Rule 1: doctor lies.

    • @yeshello3775
      @yeshello3775 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Why would I laugh at this comment....

    • @nicolesong6199
      @nicolesong6199 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      they didn't die

    • @ceoofwandaism7380
      @ceoofwandaism7380 Pƙed 3 lety

      Nicole Song it showed on the grave at what year they died.

    • @Materminds187
      @Materminds187 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      They died but it wasn’t because of the Doctor. He tried his best to save them both but they just
..lived out their lives in the past and they were happy ones.

  • @therandomer6261
    @therandomer6261 Pƙed 4 lety +6

    Mad the way chibnall but can write something this incredible but can't write a competent episode of doctor who as a show runner

    • @Teksuo
      @Teksuo Pƙed 4 lety

      Seriously. Like why can't everything turn out this good? Then he becomes showrunner and the thing turns to shit.

    • @iamsherlocked345
      @iamsherlocked345 Pƙed 3 lety

      Yep I’ve pretty much hated most of the new episodes...I tried so hard to like the 13th Doctor and meh 😒 it’s never gonna happen now

  • @sharolynwells
    @sharolynwells Pƙed 7 lety +4

    I've seen this particular episode at least a dozen time and I bawl like a baby every single time.

  • @user-gn5gb9pn1n
    @user-gn5gb9pn1n Pƙed rokem +4

    I never never knew this existed I finally got some closure đŸ„ș

  • @melodypond3218
    @melodypond3218 Pƙed 10 lety +6

    This was great. Sad, but still amazing.
    I think that the saddest part about this is that there's no mention of River. You can tell, just from the way Rory talks about Anthony, that Brian doesn't know about her, and now he never will. He may know about one grandchild, but there's still another out there he's never even met and doesn't even know anything about. That's the sad thing.

  • @torik9300
    @torik9300 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    Chris Chibnall please bring this passion into series 12. I understand what you were trying to do with series 11, but I think some emotional storytelling like this can really enhance Doctor 13 and her companions story.

    • @tardistime6857
      @tardistime6857 Pƙed 3 lety

      He didn’t sorry

    • @torik9300
      @torik9300 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@tardistime6857 you don't have to apologize. Chibnall missed an opportunity to develop the better side of his storytelling. Missed opportunities happen, it's pretty human. Plus I'm not that down about Doctor Who anymore, I went and found a lovely time travel gem called 12 Monkeys (TV series not the movie but it's still kinda cool). One of Best Time Travel stories out there imo.

  • @grafikpapst
    @grafikpapst Pƙed 7 lety +5

    And thats our new showrunner, Ladies and Gentleman. If he keeps up this quality in his actual showwriting, I see golden days at the horizon.

  • @IamaPoohnatic
    @IamaPoohnatic Pƙed 10 lety +8

    Gets me crying every time I watch it. I so wish they'd filmed this.

  • @des-astre
    @des-astre Pƙed 3 lety +6

    HOW did I miss this ? I'm a huge fan and in all these years, I never heard of that conclusion !

  • @rebekahpiper7773
    @rebekahpiper7773 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +4

    I wondered for YEARS why they never shot this scene. I always wondered until I rewatched and googled. Just when my heart couldn’t break anymore for him
 he’s not left alone in the world. He has his grandson. 😭😭😭 I was sobbing!!

    • @iamsherlocked345
      @iamsherlocked345 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

      I think watching this would’ve felt more heartbreaking 😭

  • @talb1338
    @talb1338 Pƙed 8 lety +71

    Now Chris Chibnall is going to take over on series 11 :-)
    can't wait

    • @zebadlander3323
      @zebadlander3323 Pƙed 8 lety +8

      The 13th Doctor meets Anthony :D

    • @ScoobyandShaggy5554
      @ScoobyandShaggy5554 Pƙed 8 lety

      +FesterGaming no if he wrote for 12 a lot, he would mess him up

    • @josephcarlisle1943
      @josephcarlisle1943 Pƙed 8 lety

      not really. Chris recently wrote a grumpy character (or atleast you could call him grumpy) with Broad church so he is able to do it.

    • @pjgs4933
      @pjgs4933 Pƙed 8 lety +1

      Yeah. The Power of Three is one of my favorite episodes

    • @taylorbrown9058
      @taylorbrown9058 Pƙed 8 lety +1

      It's would be awesome if Peter Capaldi, right before his regeneration scene, saved the ponds somehow. Maybe he could sent them a letter to go back to a different location I.E England where he could pick them up and return them, That would be awesome and I hope Chris does small things like that just to fill gaps

  • @MonsterHighAddict123
    @MonsterHighAddict123 Pƙed 10 lety +6

    THIS SHOULD BE FILMED. I'M CRYING RN, THIS IS THE MOST EMOTIONAL THING EVER AND IT IS NOT EVEN FILMED

  • @PolarBearNugget
    @PolarBearNugget Pƙed 9 lety +20

    I am crying and i usually never cry from films.
    After the angels take manhattan i kept wondering 'what about bryan'? I guess i have the answer now :(

  • @ZemplinTemplar
    @ZemplinTemplar Pƙed 10 lety +11

    A touching tribute to the characters. I really like this ! Yes, as improvised as this is, it brings at least some sence of closure in regards to Rory's closest relatives. Good work.

  • @iamsherlocked345
    @iamsherlocked345 Pƙed 8 lety +17

    i've watched this vid 4 times.. and each time it turns me into an ugly crying mess

  • @roberticus420
    @roberticus420 Pƙed 8 lety +16

    REALLY?!?!?! 4 days before series 9....and you guys break my feels button...

  • @gsolee
    @gsolee Pƙed 9 lety +23

    The feels are too much....
    My heart.... my heart.... something is happening to my heart!

  • @fossilized_treee_sap
    @fossilized_treee_sap Pƙed 7 lety +1

    Four years later and my heart is still shattered by this. Gorgeous, incredible, breathtaking storytelling.

  • @taqihuss9Taqi14ClubPenguin
    @taqihuss9Taqi14ClubPenguin Pƙed 9 lety +3

    So emotional. Come back Amy and Rory, please

  • @padmasandhyasrikanth3900
    @padmasandhyasrikanth3900 Pƙed 6 lety +30

    But what about Amy's parents? They came back after the wall crack was sealed right?

    • @jasonpaulbaker1
      @jasonpaulbaker1 Pƙed 6 lety +18

      Padmasandhya Srikanth that was one of the major problems with Moffat as showrunner, (one of many 😜) he was never that bothered about the companions lives on earth, which is why we hardly saw recurring family or friends of the mains during his time on doctor who until later on, a huge contrast from Russell t Davies era

    • @rkah6187
      @rkah6187 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Agreed. This was something I really disliked about Moffat's run. We saw Amy's parents for about 10 minutes then they ceased to exist, and we've never met the aunt that supposedly raised her. And we were supposed to believe that Melody and Amy were *such* good friends when she was never ever mentioned until she suddenly became relevant to the plot.
      Clara's family have a two-minute cameo in the Christmas special, never to be seen, heard, or mentioned again. At least Bill was explained away with her being an orphan, but frankly after Davies involving the companion's earthly lives and families so significantly, it was disappointing. I get it that he was going for a fairy tale feel but his characters seemed less human because of it.
      The only thing I like about Chibnall's run is that he is trying to bring back family dynamics into the show somewhat.

    • @SchultzDorinda
      @SchultzDorinda Pƙed 3 lety +1

      She probably wrote to them too.
      But it wasn't worth showing. We never actually got to know them.

  • @WhoExtra
    @WhoExtra Pƙed 6 lety +376

    Just came to say ... *_Chibnall_*_ wrote this._
    ... I think we're in good hands. That's all.

    • @jam-the-hologram
      @jam-the-hologram Pƙed 6 lety +15

      Yeah. Know I just CAN'T wait for the 13th Doctor!!

    • @objectdefiance4027
      @objectdefiance4027 Pƙed 6 lety +5

      *Chris Chibnall*

    • @digitaldeathsquid3448
      @digitaldeathsquid3448 Pƙed 6 lety +37

      I mean, he also wrote Dinosaurs On A Spaceship, so...

    • @ontos8534
      @ontos8534 Pƙed 6 lety +17

      And yet he also wrote dinosaurs on a spaceship, 42 and the Silurian 2parter so yeah bad outweighs the good

    • @jasonpaulbaker1
      @jasonpaulbaker1 Pƙed 6 lety +11

      Ontos I actually really liked 42, and thought the Silurian two parter was good as well, but more importantly this short highlights Chibnalls strengths in his writing that shows even in his lackluster episodes (non of them have been outright terrible at the very least)

  • @liesmazarina7578
    @liesmazarina7578 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Only 9 years later CZcams found me worthy enough to put this in my suggestions! Okay. I fell in love with the show only 9 months ago, but still!

  • @jennyxvastra5650
    @jennyxvastra5650 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I am crying... But I am also really happy that Brian got to hear from Rory one last time...

  • @just_say_when3445
    @just_say_when3445 Pƙed 8 lety +11

    A great scene from our new head writer/executive producer!

  • @auntiekaykay9
    @auntiekaykay9 Pƙed 10 lety +4

    So beautiful! THANK YOU! How could any Whovian not LOVE this?!

  • @sarahsecond3815
    @sarahsecond3815 Pƙed 4 lety +2

    The new Rory's Story brought me back to here. Time to watch this video again.

  • @ronaldoeve5951
    @ronaldoeve5951 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    How did Chris chibnall went from this to the timeless children

  • @kendrixhavlik3051
    @kendrixhavlik3051 Pƙed 9 lety +8

    I'm so glad they released this even though they couldn't film it; It's such a nice nod to the original weeping angel episode, Brian was too awesome for us to never find out what became of him, and it was nice for Rory to get a little character moment all to himself.
    This does make me wonder, however, if Brian (and Tabetha and Augustus, for that matter) ever found out about River.
    Given that Anthony lived in new York, he might actually have run into her younger self at some point, or she could have visited him after their parents were dead.

  • @suungirl128
    @suungirl128 Pƙed 8 lety +7

    I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING

  • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.
    @The_Notorious_N.O.E. Pƙed 5 lety +1

    I really needed this closure. I don't understand why it wasn't filmed. Seems like a perfect epilogue.

  • @15abanana
    @15abanana Pƙed 10 lety +14

    i'm not crying... *sobs* there's something in my eyes....
    OMG.... THE FEELS!!!

  • @thevloggingcosplayer1369
    @thevloggingcosplayer1369 Pƙed 5 lety +5

    Best thing Chibnall's written for the show. Hopefully he can bring back some of this greatness with Series 12.

  • @mikebasil4832
    @mikebasil4832 Pƙed 5 lety +3

    Thank you so much, Chris. This is absolutely lovely. Doctor Who is the best family show ever. 💝

  • @aithongliew2304
    @aithongliew2304 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I’m here after 7 years and I’m still crying😭 Anthony gets river as a sister and the doctor as a brother-in-law

  • @ale80550
    @ale80550 Pƙed 10 lety +19

    if they put this in i would have cries thrice in 10 minutes. (Farwell. amelia's letter and this)

  • @mohammedtahmid6718
    @mohammedtahmid6718 Pƙed 4 lety +4

    So Chris chibnall can write this yet he also wrote the timeless child

  • @TheGrayfrog100
    @TheGrayfrog100 Pƙed rokem +6

    I'm Crying, Your Crying, we are all Crying! Such amazing story writing, if the story doesn't touch your emotions it isn't real. 😱

  • @jencook203
    @jencook203 Pƙed 2 lety

    Doing a rewatch and just stumbled on this, and I'M NOT CRYING, YOU ARE!

  • @cvharpmcgee
    @cvharpmcgee Pƙed 5 lety

    Thank goodness you uploaded this. I was always hoping Amy and Rory would adopt.

  • @stevenemert837
    @stevenemert837 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    OMG! The only good story Chris Chibnall ever wrote, and it was absolutely beautiful!

  • @penholmes688
    @penholmes688 Pƙed 10 lety +32

    Because it wasn't already heartbreaking enough! Agh! D:

    • @homfencing
      @homfencing Pƙed 10 lety +15

      Y'know....in some ways, it's better that this WASN'T shot...it allows the fans to put themselves in Brian's place so much easier...and I think it was more effective this way,

  • @digitalfiend289
    @digitalfiend289 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I'd never seen this before till today, and it brought it all back new... I'm tears over Amy and Rory again, in 2020.

  • @TywinLannister666
    @TywinLannister666 Pƙed 10 lety +32

    So goddamned heartbreaking.

    • @Despair505
      @Despair505 Pƙed 9 lety +4

      This can break Tywin Lannister's heart. This must be the saddest thing ever.

    • @TywinLannister666
      @TywinLannister666 Pƙed 9 lety +4

      ***** Don't you tell a fucking soul...or you will get your own personal Red Wedding!
      :)

    • @Despair505
      @Despair505 Pƙed 9 lety +5

      Tywin Lannister
      Well, that would require me to get a woman to marry with... maybe a "Red Cousin's Birthday" or something?

    • @TywinLannister666
      @TywinLannister666 Pƙed 9 lety +2

      ***** I like the way you think, good Ser.