the answer is yes. But if you use Hall sensors only from one wheel, the second wheel you have to precisely align and lock rigidly with the first one. Hall sensors are responsible for sending voltage to two of the three windings, when it is not synchronized, the motor will jerk or resist against the other. Sorry for my english :)
Yes u are right, i did this test whit both wheels on electric scooter and only 1 controller, while they was synchronized it was runing then suddenly start braking 😊
Swap the wires on the ends of esc,the one that goes the opposite of your wanted direction.. your current is fighting it's self and so this here u made is a slow cooker bunnerupper
The only way this would work is if the wheels were clamped together (with magnets/poles at the same angle) and always rotated exactly the same. So it could perhaps be useful if you want a single more powerful wheel.
Maybe a little late for me to ask you this, but have you tried this? Do you know anyone who did this experiment? I really want to try this since in my country this controllers are just really hard to find and expensive. I want this to have a better acceleration and also have a better overall torque
Did you notice any loss in torque or speed for just 1 to 2? Also does anybody know if this could damage one of the motors that isn't connected by hall sensors? I'm new to all this and am planning an electric skateboard as my first endeavor. Hoping to cut costs wherever possible
No it wont damage the motor✅ i am testing i had the same problem but If you mounth the motor opyset way it wil work but the motors wil shake when you turn your Vehicle but is not Dangerous!!! Post it on my Channel when am done May take a month.
Sumeet Saini i don't think so, but u could try, i was on my scooter using one controller for both wheels and when i start they was runing but after releasing throttle they both was braking to full stop 😊 i eneded up using two controllers 😊
That is what makes it work lol. Wire all hallsensors together same color swap one motor lead for direction or switch polarity. I have off forward reverse all works. Cheap eBay controller and throttle.
I spoke with somebody regarding 2 motors 1 speed controller as long as the motors don't overload the amount of watch that the controller makes it works 2 2 50 W motors would run on 1 500 W controller I think
Yes, try conneting the 2 motors in off , without the controller , remember that kind of motors are a gen to , make some turns to 1 motor &see whats goen on with the other if its not turn at the same side interchange 2 phases till you got it !! Sorry 4 my language im just try to help 😜
An idea I have not tested yet. It might not run 2 motors directly but you might be able to send the output to drive 6 additional MOSFETs to run motor in sensorless mode just a thought. Was playing with idea of converting my board to 4wd.
Still won't work.. the phases won't be aligned.. as soon as the wheels try to spin at different speeds (like going round a corner, the front wheel has to travel further), the motors ill lose sync.
I done this exact same experiment with hoverboard and it 100% works perfectly without any issues. In the video he didn't wire the 2nd Wheel up. He didn't wire 2th Hall sensor up. Not sure why
@@chickenmanatvtuft8283 I have never done this, so it is only my speculation. My background is warehouse automation and high bay area sotrage automation, so i connected a few motors in my work time. It should be perfectly possible to run 2 wheels on one controller. The only problem for me is that if you have one input for the sensor and probably connecting two of them parallel is not the best idea. If both motors have the same basic properties (the same amounts of coils, magnets, other parameters), it should be sufficient to connect sensors only from one motor and just power to another one. The other motor would be running "by default". Also the controller should be powerful enough to run 2 motors together. Just add motor powers, add an extra 20% - 30% for overcurrent during acceleration, perheaps a little fan for cooling and you should be OK. If there is a temperature sensor (protecting the motor from overheating), it would be nice to make a circuit taking both readings and feeding it to the controller. Something like an "OR" gate - doesn't matter which one overheats, both stop working.
It doesn't work with load. The wheels will lost sinchronism and you will burn your controller. Only works if you lock the two wheels together at the same phase.
I done this exact same experiment with hoverboard & throttle & controller and it 100% works perfectly without any issues. In the video he didn't wire the 2nd Wheel up. He didn't wire 2th Hall sensor up. Not sure why
He's using ONE motor controller... There is only ONE hall input.. given that the wheels will always be at different locations, this will never work. You'll always have one motor that jolts and stutters as the phases are not synced.
brushless users would have switched outer wires to the brushless to atleast compensate the direction prob on the 2nd wheel... make a hall sensor harness to double the input... ~n~ ur done P>S u use to much elec tape LOL
I have this problem before you can run it with one controller in different directions, you have to change the connections in hall sensor and your three phase input to one of your motors, you should not connect the same colors just try more
you can make 1 throttle power both wheels if you have 2 controllers - you have to connect the throttle to 1 controller (green red and black) then just connect the green wire to the green wire on the other controller. Then connect the power/battery to both controllers - twist throttle and both wheels will turn. What do you think MrCop?
Will only work with no load. trust me I've made a go kart with them need a second controller other wise the wheels will hault. because the wheels are no longer aligned. oh forgot tho you can run without hall sensors. and you can use the same padomiter tho
polymexdf69 thanks, i dont really want to talk because English is not my 1st language and i believe no one would like to listen my english with terible accent :)
It's a test to see if ONE motor controller can run TWO motors... READ the description... there is no second hall input.. If you connected the hall sensor wires together, they would give conflicting signals as the motors will never be perfectly synced to each other.
@@MrCopcreator thanks for the feedback but I just don't have the patience to order another controller off of eBay. The one I have now took about one month to get. What about sharing the wires with each connection? 2 greens go in one, 2 blues go in one and 2 yellows in one. Is it worth a try?
@@milestone_achiever4634 no point to try it, if u do as u said both wheels need to be moving at the same speed and if one turns a bit more then other one they will stop working, just be patient and get second controller, but remember u can use same throtle and same battery for 2 controllers 😊
its a polarity issue.. try switching the + and - of the wirings of that left wheel.. then it will work..silly people.. already made a conclusion without trying different combinations..
Geez how do the pros who build hover boards do it ? They will always go the cheapest route so if one controller will work that what you will find in a hoverbd what a total waste of time
Hoverboards have two controllers for reason, the reason is steering. Thats why i tried one controller to see if it works and could be using in electric scooter.
for second motor,mast change blue en gren wires,green tow blue end blue tow green, work same direction, same tow hall sensor,end work same direction en speed
the answer is yes. But if you use Hall sensors only from one wheel, the second wheel you have to precisely align and lock rigidly with the first one. Hall sensors are responsible for sending voltage to two of the three windings, when it is not synchronized, the motor will jerk or resist against the other. Sorry for my english :)
Yes u are right, i did this test whit both wheels on electric scooter and only 1 controller, while they was synchronized it was runing then suddenly start braking 😊
awesome.
also try inverting either one of the wheel's motor cable to have them carry same direction, backwards or forward.
If you were to go about inverting the wheel how would it be done?
change the yellow and blue wires over on one motor ,both motors will rotate same direction
Swap the wires on the ends of esc,the one that goes the opposite of your wanted direction.. your current is fighting it's self and so this here u made is a slow cooker bunnerupper
Hello, Is your controller 60 degree? Or 120 degree?
The only way this would work is if the wheels were clamped together (with magnets/poles at the same angle) and always rotated exactly the same. So it could perhaps be useful if you want a single more powerful wheel.
Maybe a little late for me to ask you this, but have you tried this? Do you know anyone who did this experiment? I really want to try this since in my country this controllers are just really hard to find and expensive. I want this to have a better acceleration and also have a better overall torque
Awesome project! tks
Hello my friend. Can you please give me the name of the electric box and throttle u used. Thanks in advance
Love your videos bro
Unnamed. Thanks man
Did you notice any loss in torque or speed for just 1 to 2? Also does anybody know if this could damage one of the motors that isn't connected by hall sensors?
I'm new to all this and am planning an electric skateboard as my first endeavor. Hoping to cut costs wherever possible
No it wont damage the motor✅ i am testing i had the same problem but If you mounth the motor opyset way it wil work but the motors wil shake when you turn your Vehicle but is not Dangerous!!! Post it on my Channel when am done May take a month.
Can you post your Project on you youtube Channel plz
initially they were running in the opposite direction, would it make difference by connecting motor cables in a diff order?
Sumeet Saini i don't think so, but u could try, i was on my scooter using one controller for both wheels and when i start they was runing but after releasing throttle they both was braking to full stop 😊 i eneded up using two controllers 😊
That is what makes it work lol. Wire all hallsensors together same color swap one motor lead for direction or switch polarity. I have off forward reverse all works. Cheap eBay controller and throttle.
I spoke with somebody regarding 2 motors 1 speed controller as long as the motors don't overload the amount of watch that the controller makes it works 2 2 50 W motors would run on 1 500 W controller I think
Ellos. Two motor connect independent?
What speed controller did you use. Link?! Great video!
Yes, try conneting the 2 motors in off , without the controller , remember that kind of motors are a gen to , make some turns to 1 motor &see whats goen on with the other if its not turn at the same side interchange 2 phases till you got it !! Sorry 4 my language im just try to help 😜
well done
Hi, did you get better at driving the 2 wheels at the same time?
Edivaldo Gomes yeah, i used to controllers 😊
wheel won't run without hall sensor cables plugged in?
An idea I have not tested yet. It might not run 2 motors directly but you might be able to send the output to drive 6 additional MOSFETs to run motor in sensorless mode just a thought. Was playing with idea of converting my board to 4wd.
Wow thats good idea, I bet someone who is more in to Electronic would made this posible
Still won't work.. the phases won't be aligned.. as soon as the wheels try to spin at different speeds (like going round a corner, the front wheel has to travel further), the motors ill lose sync.
bro you save me some time,thanks
American Hacker you are welcome :)
American Hacker what are you doing here’s?
I done this exact same experiment with hoverboard and it 100% works perfectly without any issues.
In the video he didn't wire the 2nd Wheel up.
He didn't wire 2th Hall sensor up.
Not sure why
@@scottrocks1993 ooo my fu..ing good point was to power it whit a 1 hall speed controller not dual motor speed controller bro!!!
@@chickenmanatvtuft8283 I have never done this, so it is only my speculation. My background is warehouse automation and high bay area sotrage automation, so i connected a few motors in my work time. It should be perfectly possible to run 2 wheels on one controller.
The only problem for me is that if you have one input for the sensor and probably connecting two of them parallel is not the best idea. If both motors have the same basic properties (the same amounts of coils, magnets, other parameters), it should be sufficient to connect sensors only from one motor and just power to another one.
The other motor would be running "by default". Also the controller should be powerful enough to run 2 motors together. Just add motor powers, add an extra 20% - 30% for overcurrent during acceleration, perheaps a little fan for cooling and you should be OK.
If there is a temperature sensor (protecting the motor from overheating), it would be nice to make a circuit taking both readings and feeding it to the controller. Something like an "OR" gate - doesn't matter which one overheats, both stop working.
It doesn't work with load. The wheels will lost sinchronism and you will burn your controller. Only works if you lock the two wheels together at the same phase.
Pedro Teixeira yeah i know that now
Thank you so much, I’ve been wondering the same thing.
Rohan Sharma thanks, at least i tried and i know i will need another controller :)
Very thanks for your information, l love your videos, you are a nice person , nice teacher
I done this exact same experiment with hoverboard & throttle & controller and it 100% works perfectly without any issues.
In the video he didn't wire the 2nd Wheel up.
He didn't wire 2th Hall sensor up.
Not sure why
Howerboard controller is useless if u want to use wheels for example in diy electric scooter, I have tried this with electric bike controller.
He's using ONE motor controller... There is only ONE hall input.. given that the wheels will always be at different locations, this will never work. You'll always have one motor that jolts and stutters as the phases are not synced.
brushless users would have switched outer wires to the brushless to atleast compensate the direction prob on the 2nd wheel... make a hall sensor harness to double the input... ~n~ ur done P>S u use to much elec tape LOL
Maybe need spin of Wheel to right coner of Magnetor block can make it run toghether!
I have this problem before you can run it with one controller in different directions, you have to change the connections in hall sensor and your three phase input to one of your motors, you should not connect the same colors just try more
sal dI thanks man ill try it
you're welcome
MrCop hello I live in Kurdistan in Iraq, I want by one off this controller, thank you for your help please.
Can you elaborate ? One controller , 2 hubs master and slave but different directions possible ?
you can make 1 throttle power both wheels if you have 2 controllers - you have to connect the throttle to 1 controller (green red and black) then just connect the green wire to the green wire on the other controller. Then connect the power/battery to both controllers - twist throttle and both wheels will turn. What do you think MrCop?
Shakeel Hussain hi, u know it would work? Or you just thinking?
I got the information from here support.electricscooterparts.com/support/discussions/topics/1000044655
Shakeel Hussain thanks man for the information, its useful :)
thank you
thanks you very mach
Will only work with no load. trust me I've made a go kart with them need a second controller other wise the wheels will hault. because the wheels are no longer aligned.
oh forgot tho you can run without hall sensors.
and you can use the same padomiter tho
Is it safe not to use the hall sensor?
@@rx-robo3405 Sensorless Mode
Yes you can I've done it connect 3 phase wires in parallel
I am planning on making an electric skateboard with this technique. do you think it would be possible to pair it with a wireless remote?
adam balghit yeah u need wirreles just for trotle and thats it, just google it and see if there any for sale
Amigo sera que pode ligar duas rodas na mesma controladora.Edvandro do Rio de Janeiro Brasil
It good of you
thanks
You can I put a video up old thread I no. I had to swap motor leads on one wheel swap blue and green whatever not the hall sensor wires motor lead
Great work good info but can you takl about you doing and not add music to the video that can help to better understand what you doing thanks
polymexdf69 thanks, i dont really want to talk because English is not my 1st language and i believe no one would like to listen my english with terible accent :)
do you have face book or something I can contact you for help on a project like this thanks need help
polymexdf69 try to find me on facebook, Aivaras Dumbliauskas :)
thanks a lot man
I sent you a friend request hope you don't mind Daniel here
You only connected one motor hall sensor????? Explain???
It's a test to see if ONE motor controller can run TWO motors... READ the description... there is no second hall input.. If you connected the hall sensor wires together, they would give conflicting signals as the motors will never be perfectly synced to each other.
Is it ok if the battery is difrent mah than hoverboard one?
ofcourse its okey, the bigger mah the longer distance u can travel with single charge :)
thank u i subscribe to you
como se llama la caja de control electrico y como la consigo
speed controller. Controlador de velocidad. Motor brushless
Amigo puedo conectar estos motores directos a la batería,,,, sin controlador?
No
what is the volt of controller and battery?
TRUCKZ 08 36v
TRUCKZ 08 for both
Thanx birathar
Your welcome
Consegue me mandar o esquema elétrico ??
I have this problem since I received the wrong controller from a vendor on eBay. I have a single motor controller but I have 2 hub motors.
U need two controllers to make it work properly
@@MrCopcreator thanks for the feedback but I just don't have the patience to order another controller off of eBay. The one I have now took about one month to get.
What about sharing the wires with each connection? 2 greens go in one, 2 blues go in one and 2 yellows in one.
Is it worth a try?
@@milestone_achiever4634 no point to try it, if u do as u said both wheels need to be moving at the same speed and if one turns a bit more then other one they will stop working, just be patient and get second controller, but remember u can use same throtle and same battery for 2 controllers 😊
@@MrCopcreator it's actually hub motors for a electric skateboard. 90mm wheels
what are you making
+Ben Gough i will make electric scooter with two rear wheel drive, so this way i could have 700w power in wheels :)
Link doesnt work. Under link is Date zone
also what controller are you using
+Ben Gough just simple brushless controller for electric bike :)
MrCop what wattage 250 350 400 ?
Ben Gough 350w
MrCop cool me too
Ben Gough are u making videos?
I thing the probleme is because the controller its to small
its a polarity issue.. try switching the + and - of the wirings of that left wheel.. then it will work..silly people.. already made a conclusion without trying different combinations..
Geez how do the pros who build hover boards do it ? They will always go the cheapest route so if one controller will work that what you will find in a hoverbd what a total waste of time
Hoverboards have two controllers for reason, the reason is steering. Thats why i tried one controller to see if it works and could be using in electric scooter.
you need two controllers and one throttle.
Monkey has 2 eyes 1mouth and 2 ears.
I think you should tal in your language we can have a translator app to translate for us
polymexdf69 Thanks, will do in my next videos :)
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for second motor,mast change blue en gren wires,green tow blue end blue tow green, work same direction, same tow hall sensor,end work same direction en speed
Man why didn't you speak and explain what's going on instead of using the music what have been so much more helpful
Hi bro how are you
Hello hello dude im good and you?
@@MrCopcreator l 'am fine dude l need your help getting some old hoverboard help me find this.
@@razacksossohou3943 search on facebook market place or ur local advertisements where u from?
@@MrCopcreator don't you have.hoverboard with you to help me.
Ofc yes, if they run at same speed and same power,
Loss of watt and lower speed
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Really yes?