The Undiscovered Secrets of Final Fantasy X
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2021
- Recently, I finished playing my first ever Final Fantasy game, and it was FFX. WOW... and there are several more of these games that people cherish to death? I can't wait to get into FF6, 7, 8, and 9 (those are the ones everybody is telling me to play). If they have the same amount of underlying religious and psychological symbolism, then you guys are in for some serious treats in the near future. I had so much fun investigating this game... and I hope that you like the secrets I might've uncovered about FFX's influences.
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The ffx OST really is timeless......
Thank you for this enjoyable analysis! FFX has so many deep and beautiful connections at a range of different levels.
Nearly 20 years old and there are still people playing this game.
You did play one of the best final fantasy games. My favorite is this one closely followed by 9. That one is active time battle so a bit more urgency. This one definitely has some excellent end game time. Very high end cap.
I'm still super pissed off there is no FFX-3 that follows Auron, Braska and Jecht's journey.
Yeah that absolutely needs to exit
@Valkyrie ALTER My parents gifted me FFX-2, after loving and playing FFX everyday. I remember the FFX-2 intro making me ultra embarrassed as a kid. I see what they tried to make with this game, great ATB combat but rest of this game feels off, unfocused and wrong. Never touched FFX-2 after buying the HD collection.
@@extradipboneless I hated FFX-2 at the time because I was expecting a faithful continuation of the FFX storyline - years later though I had long since come to terms with the fact that it was just a fan service game, and I picked it up again and enjoyed it very much for what it was. It will never tell a great story, but there is plenty of fun to be had along the way.
@Valkyrie ALTER I can't imagine a hypothetical X-3 based on Braska/Auron/Jecht being anything like X-2's rampant fanservice.
...besides, ladies deserve some beefcake, too.
Actually a FFX-3 has been thrown around. The two directors that worked on FFX and FFX-2 have said it will happen...but when both their schedules line up. It will be a sequel to X-2 taking place a decade or two after the events of X-2.
The last of the OG Square, and imo their absolute peak. I played this game in my early 20's and it was so weird and beautiful and impactful. Nearly 20 years later I was able to watch as my daughter played through it,
Pretty sure KH came soon after this, still under "Squaresoft"
The puzzles where tedious as fuck, boring and bad. Tge game is like 65% fucking cut scenes, overly cheesy dialog and uninspired antagonists. Not that great all in all. Ff12 was better.
@@theprinceofallsaiyans_vegita I personally feel ff12 was the last truly good one. The only thing I ever will dislike about it is Vaan and Penelo being main characters. Would've rather played the game from the perspective of Ashe or Balthier and wound up with more memorable and interesting characters in the party like Reddas, Vossler, or Larsa lol but I love it nonetheless.
Hope to have that one day haha. 8 is my favourite will be a hard sell if I have kids one day
we've been dreaming for so long, we're tired
Wakey wakey, hands off snakey.
We've been dreaming for so long, we're tired. will you let us rest?
Just a little more, and maybe... Maybe you are the dream that will end our dreaming at last.
@@michaelinzo damn bro. You should've told that to the Fayth lmao
@@davidgn40 xD
sweet
The atmosphere in this game is outstanding.
One of the two games that convinced me that it’s world exists even when I turn off the console. The other one is Morrowind.
a true timeless masterpiece
Shout out to your girlfriend for making you play this game!!! It’s my absolute favorite and I loved your take on it!
She's definitely a keeper! FFX is one of my favs
Wish you would have gone into the characters, their growth, the reasoning for tidus and Auron coming from dream zanarkand, Yunalesca, and so much more. This was good, but it felt like it was about the ideas then pushing ffx rather than a full dive into all the depths of this game.
My favorite game and my favorite youtuber. I was very excited to see it. Please expand more!!!
Oh my god yes a video about FFX, Mat you're the best. I miss this game so much. Your girlfriend has excellent taste... and honestly that's a genius idea, too. Turn-based games force you to slow down, and it's hard to do that sometimes nowadays.
my favorite FFX
FFX is my favorite FFX too!
@@smokeyjo7420 thank god is not x-2
@@smokeyjo7420 Same
Hell yeah!
Wow... I'm definitely going to look further into Gnosticism and the Pleroma. I always thought the Gnostics just believed in a few extra books not included in the bible. I had no idea their entire beliefs are so much more different than modern Christianity.
Welcome to final fantasy my friend. This only the tip of the iceberg
My then-girlfriend (now wife) and I emotionally connected over this game as teenagers. I think we both played through it two or three times and once together. So nostalgic! I always had a feeling there was something deeper to the world and lore of FFX and this explains a lot. Great video.
If I could truly connect to someone over this game........ I would meet a soulmate..
@@onliner10000 You'll find them.
Boy have you ever been missing out by overlooking turn base RPGs. Excited to see more content from your exploration of the genre!
Oh dip, happy to hear that not only was FF X your first Final Fantasy game, but that you also loved it! 😄
There's my childhood right there
When your girlfriend reccing FFX to you , you sure as hell are the luckiest guy in the world .
She's a treasure . Just like the game .
True enough. My GF would call me childish for playing this. That's not going to stop me though, just started my 5th time playing it...
@@RosesAndWhine This is pretty cringe. You’re basically putting your gf on blast publicly lol. What’s to gain in going out of your way to comment about your gf not supporting you? By the way, someone who calls you childish for enjoying a game is probably not worth your time. Hopefully some day you’ll understand that.
Was waiting all the way through the end to see if you’d talk about Yunalesca but perhaps she deserves a whole other video entirely. Certainly one of the memorable and grueling memories of my teen days playing this game.
Huh, this makes me realize that you'd probably have a field day with any of the main series Shin Megami Tensei games, where you battle "demons" (which run the gamut from demons, cryptids, monsters and deities) and fight towards either law (rigid, structured control) and usually fight Satan or another similar demon at the end, or chaos (limitless, hedonistic freedom) where you almost always wind up fighting Yaweh as the final boss
But then you got moments where you just fight a bootleg Ghostrider, or give the Grim Reaper a cold or something and kill him instantly.
Those games are freaking weird.
3 Nocturne and 4 really have standout morality questions and philosophical conundrums that asks tough questions to the players! then theres Digital devil Saga with its weird take on reincarnation and eastern mysticism. its still amazing tho
It's pretty clear in the main SMT plot that Yahweh is treated as the Demiurge to the Great Will (despite the Demiurge also existing as a part of Yahweh in SMT) and in Persona 5 you literally kill an entity calling itself Yaldaboath (another name for the Demiurge). Gnosticism is all over that franchise.
@@aidanklobuchar1798 are you a Xeno series fan by chance? 'cause talk about a series that is DRENCHED in gnosticism with added touches of Kubrick esthetics and Neon Genesis Evangelion influences to boot
God I hope you play Xenogears one day. There's SO much to talk about in that game and nobody does
Xenogears is pure unadulterated Gnosticism to the point that it comes off as gibberish to the layperson.
Xenoblade is essentially a retelling of Xenogears with many of the more poignant Gnosticism references watered down for a much more coherent and accessible story that maintains the same central message.
_"HA-HA HA-HA-HA!"_
-Tidus
he has the high ground now.
*nervous HA*
People missed the point of that scene. You, one of them.
@@abbemartensson3850 it's not super vague or anything.. I'm not sure that anyone who was able to operate the console and open the game was able to miss the point of that scene. The thing is, it's still funny
I kept memeing this until I player Kingdom Hearts, the dialogue in those games is just, well the logical extreme of the Tidus laugh.
Final Fantasy VII is also great, but my favourite will always be IX.
Vivi... my heart 😭
This.
10's my overall favorite, but 9 then 7 come very close after.
Vivi, best boy in all FF's
Gotta say, I wasn't expecting something so different but man was it interesting. I was expecting another like missed things in the game type of video but I'm glad it was what you covered since I legitimately have never heard about this. Genuinely interesting and I thank you for the video. ❤️
FFX is my personal GOAT Final Fantasy but you will LOVE 6 & 9, they round out my top 3 in the series. I'm so hyped to see you cover Final Fantasy as it's my favorite game series next to the Souls series.
Never knew it was so deep. Final Fantasy is known for repeating aspects, and as I am familiar with them, I don't pay attention to how the themes behind them anymore. Very insightful. You got a new sub from me!
Xenosaga has a lot of these religious type of references also. It's a bit harder to get into the battle systems but the story is great and complex and, like I said, all the religious overtones and stuff. It gets super deep.
Same thing with the shin devil series persona heck even Digimon you just need to know where to look if you're a fan of Dante's Inferno check out Devil May Cry
@@rtyertrt7876 I gotta check those out. I got quite the backlog to catch up on. And loving JRPGs makes it take that much longer to keep up. lol. I have played the first Devil May Cry but it was like a decade ago. I'll have to play all those games coming up here this year. Thanks for pointing out a few games for me!
@@mr79843 👍
Not the video I was expecting when I put it in my Watch Later list, but this turned out to be much better than a list of rehashed "secrets" in the game that everyone knows about.
So, I'm guess Megami Tensei is now on your radar. Turn-based RPGs where you usually go up a tower to fight God at the end.
Now that I think about it, have you ever made a video about any Final Fantasy game Snake??
I’m curious as to which one you would actually gravitate toward or like.
@@jerrym1218 I did one on the FF7 timeline a few years ago. But I'm not really into FF aside from old Dissidia.
@@The4thSnake- Oh yeah, you did talk about FF VII.
It was quite a while ago too.
I’m shocked that you didn’t gravitate towards the Final Fantasy Universe, especially since you love games with very good story telling.
The franchise does have a pretty good number of great Final Fantasy games with unforgettable stories, characters and music.
The franchise isn’t for everyone though, but if you ever find yourself wanting to give another Final Fantasy game a chance that isn’t Final Fantasy VII, then in my opinion, you certainly have to play Final Fantasy VI.
I’ve known a lot of people that don’t play RPG’s at all, they would strictly be FPS gamers, or fighting game players, and all it took was playing just one random Final Fantasy game between 1 and 12, and immediately they would become fans and ask which FF should they play next.
@@jerrym1218 I dislike turn-based combat. It's ruined Yakuza 7 for me.
You know you can read the translated interviews about where they got their influences from and boy your minds about to be blown by the three world theory over all the Final Fantasy games
This.... Was really validating. I learned of these concepts in part from Soul Reaver and Final Fantasy 10. And it was at a hard time in my life as a kid, the person who kept my family together passed away.
Thanks, Max. I have my own things that I must finish, to take steps in my life with accordance to my beliefs, as I am quite fortunate to have a Sophia of sorts in my life, and she's a good friend. I'll stand accomplished alongside all my friends, and in alignment with these truths, so that my life will not be forever defined by a memory of grief.
Godspeed.
I'm glad you started playing this kind of rpg. I've deprogrammed many turn-based-game-skeptics with a simple sentence "all games are turn based. Ask any fighting-game, action-game or fps player".
Even as someone who loves fighting games, I’ve never thought about it that way. Funny that when I feel like I need a break from fighting games I tend to play turned based rpgs.
@@dmgdisciple9680 they are! they're just waaay faster but that's basically what frame game is all about, knowing who's turn is it and trying not to squander yours. FFX in fact displays "recovery frame data" with the turn bar on the side. The only difference is that wasting turns in rpgs is more generous and usually wastes resources that are obtainable as a function of time (grinding) more than a function of git gud.
Incredibly insightful and well done video. Thanks for putting this out there, Max!!
Dude I have great memories of both VII and X. I was like 5 when VII came out and I still remember how much fun me and my cousins had at the Golden Saucer. So many damn sleep overs just playing those mini games, it's hard to believe how much time has past since.
X on the other hand was a completely different experience. Those same cousins stayed with us for a few weeks and I remember how excited we all were to play another Final Fantasy game except on the PS2 this time. I could go on and on, but there are countless moments where we all just sat in silence taking in the new music and the visuals. It was a completely different feel from VII, which honestly I always liked about the series. Plus the Blitz Ball theme was a BANGER!
Also we laughed our asses off at 0:50 when Auron gets sucked into the portal! 💎
The breakdown I've been waiting two decades for!
LOVE this game, and your analysis makes it that much better.
Final Fantasy is such an amazing series. I recommend playing 6 and 7 next
Oh dont forget 8
Absolutely wonderful! I always enjoy learning more about my favorite games, the myths, the origins of thought that create them. It's truely superb! Your craft in exploring these concepts has helped me over the time i've been digesting these, and I can only hope to see more in the future and it help more in that time!
Great video Max!
Definitely would love to hear your thoughts about the Shin Megami Tensei and Persona series if you ever got to that point, great video!
i subscribe because of your synchronicity video and you do a video on the first major video game i loved.... of course
This is a fantastic concept, it got me very interested and I'm glad I watched your video, thank you for the fun subject Max 👍
I've had an abnormal, inadvertent recollection of the imagery you shown, and a fascination with this game. Thanks for giving me names and references to study.
Loved this, thanks Max.
Loved this video! Thank you for this eye opening presentation!
I'm so glad you've found a girl. Go Max!
Thank you.
Considering I’m playing final fantasy x for the first time I’m glad this wasn’t too spoiler heavy. Great video
As someone who has played the original pair and both remasters, I found this quite intriguing.
FF 10 is arguably the best introduction to the turn based games, its not too rough and allows you to see what effects the turns ect.
Very informative, i tried to play other final fantasy game but only FFX hit me so hard. FFX is a masterpiece
This was my first FF game too back in 8th grade. Thanks for explaining to me why I truly loved this game all these years. Love these videos Max!
Matt? You mean Max?
@@dlbyrd-gasca2730 Thanks 😅
@@MillerTime981 No problemo.👍
About a minute after I was thinking how closely related this all was to the elder god in legacy of kain you brought it up. I immediately liked and subscribed. Interested in seeing more content on your channel.
Shoutout to ya Max for these thoughtful video game vids, if i hadn't stumbled upon The Most Profound Moment in Video Game History, I would not be enjoying the MGS saga right now! I also intend to check out others you've talked about like Deus Ex for instance. Keep it coming!
😎👍
Great game and great video. Thank you Max!
This is really compelling stuff, and thanks for leaving a lot of spoilers out as I haven't finished the game for myself yet but know the gist of it. I sorta see a lot of these same concepts in Kingdom Hearts right now, between the new concepts of Verum Rex and Falsus Rex brought in with KH3.
So I'm still waiting for the undiscovered secrets I was expecting to see in this video.
I realy do love learning things, and I feel like I learn so much from your videos! Thanks Max!
I feel like I do too, sometimes. 🧠
Fantastic uplaod!
Legend of the Dragoon my man, it made me love RPGs
What an underutilized and underappreciated game.
Still has one of the most impactful deaths in any game imo.
Fantastic analysis, really enjoyed this. Would LOVE to see your analyses on other FF games, especially 9!
Shout out to Max's girl. Listen to your boo
My friends have the same view you had on turned based rpgs because they never gave one a chance and I was the same until I played Persona 3.
There’s yet yo be another game that has the same nostalgic feeling as this one.
This was a great video to watch, especially as someone who plays FFXIV where these same religious and psychological tones popped up in Shadowbringers. I just thought it was a neat idea to make certain characters seem even more powerful than what has been shown before, but now it's a bit spooky how close they are.
Keep making amazing videos man been watching your videos all night! Great work
The first and really only Final Fantasy game I've taken so much interest in, I'm hoping to play it soon on my switch but I'm really glad this is your first Final Fantasy game, it's an amazing place to start.
When you play FF7, keep in mind that it’s hinted by the dev’s and square team that they exist within the same world/universe
Starts getting fun when you dive into shared universe theory with final fantasy 7 and 10.
my favourite one, good choice, glad you enjoyed it, the soundtrack is amazing. I actually cried at the end when I was young lol...
Woo, max talking about one of my all time favorite games?!? Its like early christmas!!!
I'll never forget first time visiting Macalania Woods. Great moment in my childhood, this game blew me away with its beautiful graphics, epic music, atmosphere and story.
I've mentioned this a couple times already, but now you have to play Xenogears, especially given the extent to which you've shown interest in games depicting the Gnostic creation myth.
I downloaded Xenogears very recently. I am very interested in playing it.
Great video! I am half way through my 4th FFX playthrough. I knew you’d like it Max.
Interesting perspective.
Thank you for sharing and teaching.
I enjoyed every min
28 people repeated the spiraling cycle of the pilgrimage of hopeless sacrificial death.
Every day I learn something new about FFX. You just open my mind to new knowledge. Your GF have good taste.
I just paused the video to let you know that your introduction is killer, you just talked for one minute of the game and the proceed to teach me a lot of cool stuff that I never knew, that is so friggin cool!
Congrats for the final Fantasy video, i love it!
Ok this was incredibly different than expected. Love it ❤️
None of the other Final Fantasy games have their religion as the cultural core that is wrapped up in the main antagonist like FFX has.
Aeons are found throughout all of the FF games but they’re not presented in the way that FFX does.
Fighting those griffin characters and that sasquatch looking boss dude after Seymour drove me up the wall. But all in all a great experience.
You played FFX once, and you already understand it better than I do! :) I adore this game, thank you, it was a fascinating analysis!
When you mentioned Sin as a "force of nature", it suddenly gave me the urge to fight it in a Monster Hunter crossover
Anxiously awaiting a Xenogears video... Anywho, Xenogears is far beyond the Final Fantasy games in terms of religious/spiritual and psychological symbolism and exploration. It will definitely be on your top 5 most profound games list. A rather deep and thought provoking gem of a game, despite being rushed/unfinished and gameplay being decent at best. There are written works further expanding and explaining the narrative and subtext too, basically the ultimania, of which being "Perfect Works".
Fun fact: Xenogears' premise was pitched to Sakaguchi for FF7 but was deemed too controversial for a mass audience. The story behind its development is very interesting as well.
Xenogears sounds like a pretty cool game!👍
such a well informed yet fresh take on what tens and hundreds of other tubers've reviewed almost in the same way
What a surprise to see you play Final Fantasy! And great pick for a first FF game :)
Good, you opened a new door for content to play :)
FFX and IX are imo the best fleshed out FF games, so I would definitelly suggest you you play IX one day too.
On the topic of religious themed RPGs, Xenogears and Xenosagas should be right up your alley.
Oof! Well I'm going to have to actually play this now... I learned a lot in this video, and it gives me a new lens through which to appreciate the work. Thanks!
A very excelent video, glad you liked to play FFX. Very well made analysis.
If you are into FF games now, I recomend you if you like to play Final Fantasy VII and the 2020 remake, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XV, they will be enjoyable and you will like their plot, character development, themes and mechanics. Also, I recomend you an Squaresoft related game called Xenogears, is very awesome and well rich in much religious, philosophical, sci-fi and psychology themes :)
I'm so glad you played this, and I learned something new! Incidentally, there is an entity similar to aeons (primals) in Final Fantasy XIV called Sophia. Her theme tune during the fight mentions gnosticism in the lyrics, and she summons a disembodied head called a Demiurge during the fight. Her theme seemed to be about maintaining balance and order, and she has a lot of iconography of weighing scales.
I'd love to see what you make of Final Fantasy IX if you ever get the chance to play it. It's a slower burn than FFX initially and takes a while for the scale of the story to become apparent, but it has surprisingly deep themes despite its whimsical art style
Ironically with all the FFXIV attempts to deconstruct mythology, The Mother Crystal in FFXIV is ended up representing Pistis Sophia's role in FFXIV, just beforehand when a boss actually named Sophia is reduced into a major enemy
Also Final Fantasy games will never escape Gnosticism, as Final Fantasy (and SMT/Persona) series relies on breaking the yoke of Fate and corrupt divinities, much like how Sethian Gnostic sects' narratives pertains to go for
Play 9, its my personal favorite, not the most dificult but it has the best characters and a really nice message about life and death.
And a beautifull OST.
Tbh, all FFs from 6 to 10 are worth playing
*Flashbacks to the "You're never alone" moment*
Chills...
@@vahlok1426 Yes yes yes, one of the best moments.
And again this video has blown my mind. I played FFX on release and this vid has still opened new ideas to me. Gonna have to go back for a replay now
FFX is indeed a very good first choice for turn-based games.
I'd love for you to cover Tidus, and what his fate in Mobius/X-2 and that of aeons in general could potentially mean in a gnostic sense.
Silent Hill, Dark Souls, and now FFX? Max these are all games to dear and close to me how does this keep happening lol
So happy to see Legacy of Kain referenced.
I actually teared at the end of the game when it first came out years ago. The story was not forced and was aloud to develope with good pacing. A lot of battles but that is what true Jrpg games are.
Outstanding
"I have dreamed a dream. But now that dream is gone from me."
I played Final Fantasy X when it first came out. To this day it is still my favorite RPG game. Yuna is a positive role model.
YAY Final Fantasy content!!
I watch tons of youtubers to be entertained- I watch Max Derrat videos to be extremely impressed while being entertained.
This my JAM right here!
FFX was my first and still favorite FF. I enjoyed some of the DS titles like tactics and VII Japanese edition. But nothing and no other RPG has ever done it for me like FFX. I love the music, the game play style, the story mesmerized me. I literally fell for Yuna and Lulu is so goth I LOVE it! Auron was the perfect stoic balance the the other characters. I just love this game. I'm so glad I got to play it on the original PS2 back in the day when it came out. The only problem I have is for another FF to live up to this one for me. I hear a lot of people feel that way about their first FF. I'm glad mine was THIS one. I can't imagine being disappointed with this one.
I'm glad FFX is still being appreciated. It's a bit forgotten, between the peaks of FF7 and FF9 and the lows of FF13 and FF15, but it remains my favorite Final Fantasy title to this day.
so then the adventure/journey the characters go through is their journey towards gnosis.. slowly attaining knowledge of the true ways of the world as they travel.. each character could also represent different virtues/skills that a journeyman is supposed to hone/embrace/overcome as they progress in their quest for gnosis.
Now you're thinking.... keep going.
wow this was reaaly good content. cheers from Brazil