Those bolts can be made to work. You have to put them in a lathe and turn the 'waist' part a little deeper, so they shear more easily. But it takes a bit of trial and error, and it's easy to make too deep a cut and have them break at too low a torque . Since they are expensive, you can potentially waste money getting them right. Better, if you can, to make up a set of bucking bars, and, using an air hammer with a recessed tip in the right profile to make the correct head shape, use real rivets, heated orange hot, and rivet them.
I used the rivets for my bumper, I just cut off the bottom and welded them in place. The bumper/rivets are welded behind so it can't be seen, but the rivets look like they're doing it's job. So it looks like factory.
I think the snap off "rivets" are a bit of a gimmick, for what use they are yo may as well use a button headed socket screw, at least you know that will be tight, those rivnuts are obviously not undercut enough, another use for the lathe you will soon be getting ! Another great video ! Chris B.
I don't know if there the same brand but I used Brent Mullins snap off rivets and they worked a treat. Might be worth enquiring. I had mine shipped over to the UK.
Thanks Ben, I was going to get them shipped but shipping was high for a couple of rivets, the photos show the ones from Brent looking different to these ones.
You prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can watch all of the latest series on instaflixxer. Been streaming with my gf for the last days xD
@@Greendot319 Obviously they made these Jeeps like popcorn and they just had to pass quality control and that's it. As tough as they are, I bet they broke down frequently in the field which is why the Army travels with truckloads of spare parts, complete engines, etc everything. They were severely abused in war time and probably got very little maintenance.
You are welcome. I have enjoyed your videos as well :-) Couple of things - the snap off rivets cost so much because they are basically handmade - turned on a lathe. Nice idea, but I have tried them twice and I was not happy with them. The other thing on the quality of the welds - the factory was using arc welders and the rods had to be dipped into flux, as opposed to the coated rods we get today. They are indeed rough - my MB frame had some nice welds and some that looked pretty porous.
The important load carrying ones on this frame look good but the minor bracket ones are poor, they must have been fitted at different times by different skill set workers, better quality work for the more important stuff.
Have you checked out MD Juan Enterprises They are based in the Phillipines and stamp almost all the military jeep parts and many more... They are you tube videos that tour the facility...and you can see what they produce They ship them in crates minus the motor i believe
Thanks a lot Jim, remember im in the UK so parts supplying is a bit different as you have to take into account postage and import fees which can be over double the cost of the parts! cheers
Those bolts can be made to work. You have to put them in a lathe and turn the 'waist' part a little deeper, so they shear more easily. But it takes a bit of trial and error, and it's easy to make too deep a cut and have them break at too low a torque . Since they are expensive, you can potentially waste money getting them right. Better, if you can, to make up a set of bucking bars, and, using an air hammer with a recessed tip in the right profile to make the correct head shape, use real rivets, heated orange hot, and rivet them.
I used the rivets for my bumper, I just cut off the bottom and welded them in place. The bumper/rivets are welded behind so it can't be seen, but the rivets look like they're doing it's job. So it looks like factory.
Enjoy watching, keep the videos coming
Nice video
I think the snap off "rivets" are a bit of a gimmick, for what use they are yo may as well use a button headed socket screw, at least you know that will be tight, those rivnuts are obviously not undercut enough, another use for the lathe you will soon be getting ! Another great video ! Chris B.
Ha Chris, you are correct on all counts!
I don't know if there the same brand but I used Brent Mullins snap off rivets and they worked a treat. Might be worth enquiring. I had mine shipped over to the UK.
Thanks Ben, I was going to get them shipped but shipping was high for a couple of rivets, the photos show the ones from Brent looking different to these ones.
The Ford fenders also have some corner braces. Also remember the early gpw's used the Midland frame. Subtle differences indeed.
You prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can watch all of the latest series on instaflixxer. Been streaming with my gf for the last days xD
@Cruz Westin yea, I have been watching on Instaflixxer for months myself :)
Love your critique on the WW2 welds! :) ... maybe the Germans were approaching and they needed some Jeeps quickly? :)
Not far wrong!
@@Greendot319 Obviously they made these Jeeps like popcorn and they just had to pass quality control and that's it. As tough as they are, I bet they broke down frequently in the field which is why the Army travels with truckloads of spare parts, complete engines, etc everything. They were severely abused in war time and probably got very little maintenance.
I mentioned on the G that the breakoff rivets stink. All of them. Use carriage bolts or rivet them proper.
You certainly did, it would appear they don't seem to work. Thanks a lot for the input and love your channel, cheers
You are welcome. I have enjoyed your videos as well :-) Couple of things - the snap off rivets cost so much because they are basically handmade - turned on a lathe. Nice idea, but I have tried them twice and I was not happy with them. The other thing on the quality of the welds - the factory was using arc welders and the rods had to be dipped into flux, as opposed to the coated rods we get today. They are indeed rough - my MB frame had some nice welds and some that looked pretty porous.
The important load carrying ones on this frame look good but the minor bracket ones are poor, they must have been fitted at different times by different skill set workers, better quality work for the more important stuff.
What about removing leaves to make it ride smoother when at a normal road weight? Feasable?
Yes you can do this
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What are thoe rivets called?
Have you checked out MD Juan Enterprises
They are based in the Phillipines and stamp almost all the military jeep
parts and many more...
They are you tube videos that tour the facility...and you can see what they produce
They ship them in crates minus the motor i believe
Maybe the heat on the rivet caused the failure ?
why not use a nut instead of the snap off part if its not going to be seen
Because I wanted to give them a chance to work as they are supposed to!
Check out CZcams Team503 rebuilding a MB has good information and a parts supplier you may need to know.
Never have enough information.
Thanks a lot Jim, remember im in the UK so parts supplying is a bit different as you have to take into account postage and import fees which can be over double the cost of the parts! cheers
Sorry Team G503
Yes I do but you may never know straight away if you can’t source it the UK you have a source before our ass of a President raise tariffs.