What Makes Gerson Great | Undertale/Deltarune Character Analysis

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • Gerson is great, easily one of Undertale's most fascinating NPCs in design, personality, and role in the game's backstory and metanarrative, and with Deltarune giving Gerson a great role in its history, he's long overdue for a character analysis! In this video, I explore both iterations of Gerson, to highlight what makes Undertale's such a memorable character and explore what Deltarune may hold for his legacy. If you like what I do, please consider supporting me on Patreon: / dorked
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Komentáře • 273

  • @Dorked
    @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +130

    Hey, guys! I had to unlist the Undertale Yellow video due to a glaring audio sync issue that I hope to fix. I'll try to get it back up soon. Do you want me to edit in voice acting in post? I can try, but it's not required. More analysis videos to come once I decide which topics I'm tackling next! I do need to finish that Ven video at some point. My Patreon can be found here: patreon.com/dorked and my Ko-Fi is here: ko-fi.com/invertedfate My Undertale webcomic is at invertedfate.com/chapters (the last few chapters are not on the site yet but will be eventually). My Sonic video is here: czcams.com/video/HmZ2-yA1aEA/video.html

    • @Sir_Noel
      @Sir_Noel Před 5 měsíci +6

      Up to you on the voice acting part imo, I'd enjoy the vid either way 🙌

    • @SuperSeasonChannel2003
      @SuperSeasonChannel2003 Před 5 měsíci +2

      va'ing could be fun

    • @drascia
      @drascia Před 5 měsíci

      If you want VA help lmk :)

    • @thechargedfoxie456yt2
      @thechargedfoxie456yt2 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hello dorked, I would like to ask you about a possible collaboration
      Not sure if you've been in the Friday night Funkin community at all but I am an FNF songwriter and have made songs and concepts for a mod based on inverted fate and wanted to know if you'd be interested in helping me make it an official mod

    • @RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR
      @RALSEIDAGAMERRRRR Před 4 měsíci

      Oh my god this is like one of the only CZcamsrs that actually talks about Dess

  • @autumnwolverton4154
    @autumnwolverton4154 Před 5 měsíci +664

    Gerson's "...I know you can't here" is absolutely an underrated badass line, and a very clever use of Undertale's meta nature. But the followup line, "Knowledge like that is the only reason I've survived so long," is just as interesting to me, because it implies that *all humans* in Undertale's world operate on the same "player character logic" that our actual player character does. And now I'm just imagining a massive human army marching on a monster refugee camp, only to be stopped by Gerson setting up a shop directly in their path, and all the humans curse his name because they can only interact with him in the shopkeeper menu and thus can't get him out of the way. Hilarious.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +283

      It's really interesting to ponder the implications of that line within the war. Like how many of the surviving monsters pulled shopkeeper logic. I love the idea that Gerson used that in the war. Like he had his hammer and all, but the real trick was just to open a lemonade stand.

    • @megalampada2372
      @megalampada2372 Před 5 měsíci +108

      Humans: _"ATTACK! DON'T LET THEM ESCAPE!"_
      Gerson, setting up his shop: Nah.

    • @Videospiel-Man5730
      @Videospiel-Man5730 Před 5 měsíci +44

      ​@@Dorkedit also fits my perspective that i think that if is a more serious/ realistic version of ut honestly i imagine a majority of the humans in undertale like they are in earthbound/ mother being honestly funny simple goobers!

    • @Vakothu
      @Vakothu Před 5 měsíci +52

      I like to think that that also implies how he's still alive; even as a long lived turtle the war was a LONG time ago. Shopkeepers can't die, so what if the only reason Gerson hasn't died of old age is because he's never left his shop?
      What if the only reason he's dead in Deltarune is because he didn't have a shop, so he didn't have shopkeeper invulnerability?

    • @W.D_Gaster
      @W.D_Gaster Před 5 měsíci +41

      "SHOW US THE MONSTERS!"
      "Best I can do is an apple kiddo"

  • @CRMN805
    @CRMN805 Před 5 měsíci +323

    its also kinda interesting how gerson is the "hammer of justice" and undyne the "spear of justice", I think that shows how undyne wants to be like gerson

    • @Busshhu
      @Busshhu Před 5 měsíci +23

      and don't forget... King from Deltarune Chapter 1 is the Chain of Justice!

    • @flamingpaxtsc
      @flamingpaxtsc Před 4 měsíci +9

      So close to being able to bring back communism. If only Undyne was the Sickle of Justice

    • @redactedoktor
      @redactedoktor Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@flamingpaxtsc Gersons long lost brother Vladimir Lenin.

  • @dyllon5211
    @dyllon5211 Před 5 měsíci +182

    It’s so cute to hear Undyne talk about him like “He’s a real hero! ^-^”
    Then Gerson is like “Undyne has done such a long way since she was a kiddo”

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +59

      YEAH. Their connection is so cute? Good for them, tbh.

  • @sharzinlalebazri5673
    @sharzinlalebazri5673 Před 5 měsíci +129

    Gerson might be a crafty, lovable, badass war vet. But nothing he does or says will ever be as cold as "I can't go to hell. I'm all out of vacation days."

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +55

      I think some of his geno lines at least come close, but fair enough. xD

    • @hamstrbaxtr
      @hamstrbaxtr Před 3 měsíci +8

      ​@@Dorkedthey read as equal but opposite kinds of cold badass to me, tbh. if anything, i feel like they highlight one another in just how stark the contrast is.

  • @noah9172
    @noah9172 Před 5 měsíci +152

    People always tend to overlook Gerson as 'guy that sells junk we can then spend at the tem shop', but I like the fact Toby put some extra lore about the Boss Monsters in his post pacifist dialogue.
    He's one of my favorite shopkeepers behind Burgerpants, and his dialogue in the no-mercy route feels fitting for him in a sense.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +30

      I think a big part of it is people are drawn to the high intensity boss battles, so Sans getting all this attention makes sense, along w/ others who have memorable fights. Gerson's appearances are memorable too, but a lot of the most interesting stuff requires backtracking or the no mercy run to see.

    • @TheIT221
      @TheIT221 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@Dorked I wonder if burgerpants could be an easy and quick character to cover like this character (to make into a quick video)
      It’d also help with the perspective on Mettaton’s character, and how he treats burgerpants compared to his other staff

  • @HiddenForbidden2
    @HiddenForbidden2 Před 5 měsíci +83

    It is my headcanon that Undyne’s big bright smile at the end of her No Mercy Fight is something she picked up from Gerson.
    I could totally see him show a big bright smile to those who he’s successfully kept safe from danger.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +26

      Omg, that's such a cute headcanon? I love it. ;w;

  • @ssomenerdd
    @ssomenerdd Před 5 měsíci +110

    Gersons Genocide diologe ("I know you can't here" line specificly) is the definition of a Giga Chad energy

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +43

      Easily one of the most badass things anyone has said in a Toby Fox game.

    • @TheRichDiaries
      @TheRichDiaries Před měsícem +1

      “i cant go to hell im all out of vacation days” is better

  • @Ace.t177
    @Ace.t177 Před 5 měsíci +118

    I love this old geezer, especially his dialouge in genocide. The fact that he is aware of him basically being immortal due to his shopkeeper status is bot something many pepole appreciate in my opinion!

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +34

      It's a really fun use of meta and one that kinda gets overshadowed by the more obvious examples, like Flowey and Sans.

    • @Ace.t177
      @Ace.t177 Před 5 měsíci +16

      Exactely! The fact that sans and flowey aren't the only ones with the power to know the meta elements of their worlds is really overshadowed by the fandom...

  • @jocosejpeg
    @jocosejpeg Před 5 měsíci +60

    I've always loved Gerson's unabashed stance against the player in the geno route. A canonical war veteren exploiting the laws of his universe to taunt our inability to harm him has always been one of my favourite examples of Undertale's more "meta" characters screwing with the player, especially since it makes sense diegetically due to how familiar he is with humans and their restrictions.
    It's also for the reasons listed in the video that Gerson (especially DR Gerson) is always my go-to Gaster swap when it comes to the realm of AUs, and one I woefully don't see explored too often. The concept of a character versed in creating works of fiction eventually realising that they ARE in a work of fiction... ughjsidfaodj I'm a complete sucker for that trope

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +18

      Gerson Gaster swap is a really interesting one that I don't see used much, either. But god, though, that angle as you described it is really neat. I dig. :D

  • @KidGamer77
    @KidGamer77 Před 5 měsíci +182

    Gerson is such a cool character for how niche he is, even having a mild prevalence in Deltarune. And the Genocide run’s depiction of him is nothing short of amazing. I love this analysis, and this character. Great job!

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +31

      Thank you so much! :) I think his geno depiction is definitely a highlight. That's where he shows just how *cool* he is, and it's fantastic.

  • @nosequeponerperoaquihayalgo
    @nosequeponerperoaquihayalgo Před 5 měsíci +81

    Gerson ? Thats a name i havent heard on a long while

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +41

      He's definitely a character who isn't as talked about as some of the more popular ones, that's for sure.

    • @noahmasoodi184
      @noahmasoodi184 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oh, did you know him then?

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@noahmasoodi184 Just the Undertale character, not his namesake.

    • @GersonBoom
      @GersonBoom Před měsícem +1

      ​@@noahmasoodi184 Of course I know him. He's me

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube Před 5 měsíci +21

    I love that joke where he says you can't attack him in the Genocide route because he's a shopkeeper

  • @papermr.magolorguy7957
    @papermr.magolorguy7957 Před 5 měsíci +34

    Gerson’e response to him being threatened on a genocide run is something I love and hate at the same time.
    I love the gigachad energy from his knowledge and not backing down from the players threat.
    I hate we can’t fight him and have him roundhouse kick us out of the game. 😭

  • @hallows7568
    @hallows7568 Před 5 měsíci +47

    As someone who has watched several playthroughs, TONS of fanworks, and several lore videos, but I dont think I've ever seen anyone analyze Gerson so deeply. There's so much covered in this video I've heard of, yet so much I haven't. For how much fan works focus on when asriel was alive, I'm surprised that Gerson isn't brought up. I love how much you focus on and correct the history of undertale lore, giving us beautiful insights that more people should really pay attention to.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +17

      Thanks! I'm someone who's been making Undertale fanworks for many years, so I tend to hyperfixate and analyze like crazy to make sure my own work keeps to the spirit of UT as much as I can. I think it's just that one's level of investment/engagement in the more subtle aspects of the game's lore aren't something every fan is gonna dig their teeth into, and that's fine! Some people just wanna play the game.

    • @Blink-qq3tx
      @Blink-qq3tx Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@@DorkedI'll be honest Dorked, that is why Inverted Fate is my favorite AU ever, and easily my second favorite undertale fan conter(sorry but dogs of future past edges out just a bit more)

    • @gabrote42
      @gabrote42 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Determinators had analyzed him a few months after their narra chara compilation post, but it's lost to history. Good news is that Dorked continues being an absolute unit and creating similar material for us to cite and enjoy

    • @BelBelle468
      @BelBelle468 Před 3 měsíci +3

      I feel like there’s a lot of untapped potential in Undertale. I’d love to read a story about the last day Chara was alive. Visiting ppl they want to leave on a good note, thinking about how they’re saving them, then ending their life. It would be so tragic and cool.
      Gerson needs to be used way more as well. He’s clearly important and he’s honestly way cooler of a character than ppl give him credit for. Heck, I had no clue he was a war hero. The Deltarune book stuff took me by surprise.

  • @W.D_Gaster
    @W.D_Gaster Před 5 měsíci +57

    A quick theory. What if the delta rune literally lost it's meaning, as in, Toby saw it in his dream but forgot what was its meaning.
    Also, i forgot that he is fine with helping Frisk. I wonder, does he just not care anymore, or does he have some hopes regarding them

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +44

      Oh, that's entirely possible. Maybe after DR releases, he'll go into more depth about the dream and how much it influenced each of his games.
      It's possible that he has hopes, or perhaps he acknowledges that Frisk is just a kid.

  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 Před 5 měsíci +9

    "I know you can't here" is such a cool line. You can't hurt him, and he knows it. You, the genocidal child that nothing can stop, is at the mercy of that old turtle's sass, and he knows it. Incredible.

  • @Comuc
    @Comuc Před 5 měsíci +96

    Gerson is, I feel, one of the most interesting mysterious character of Undertale. I don't know why, but I was always fascinated by his knowledge of the shop mechanic, and Temmie Village. I hope he will be in the spotlight (at least a bit more fleshed out in Deltarune, even if its just by some lines of dialogue by other characters)

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +23

      I'd love to learn more about his role in Deltarune because he has so much influence on the local culture, and his children are still around, too. It's so interesting to have this character who we knew in Undertale be gone in DR yet still linger in the way he impacts those he left behind.

    • @hannahbrown5465
      @hannahbrown5465 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Dorkedthe fact he is deceased in deltarune says alot, even just from Toby’s writer perspective, he’s not around for us to ask him questions anymore. Probably the most important questions we will need to understand deltarune.

  • @darestep7844
    @darestep7844 Před 5 měsíci +40

    Gerson Boom:
    Hammer of Justice
    Survived the human-monster war
    Inspired Undyne to join the royal guard
    The only character who recognizes Frisk is a human and doesn't attack or put them in any sort of danger
    One of the only monsters who recognize the surface isn't all sunshine and rainbows "There's a lot of Flowey's out there."
    Isn't afraid of you and tries to buy time for other monsters in the genocide route
    Namedrops Deltarune in Undertale
    Is f'ing dead in Deltarune but still seems to play an important role in the narrative

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +18

      YEAH... like when you think of how cool he is in UT and then he's just... gone in DR. All these other characters are still around. Even Asriel. But Gerson's absence hits so hard.

    • @PhantomGato-v-
      @PhantomGato-v- Před 5 měsíci +6

      ​@@DorkedHe forgot to become a shopkeeper, that would've made him immortal like in Undertale.
      ...Hold on, if he's dead in Deltarune, for how long hasn't he left his shop in Undertale???

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@PhantomGato-v- it isn't being a shopkeeper that makes him immortal, being a shopkeeper just makes him unable to be fought, lived a long life for being a turtle

    • @PhantomGato-v-
      @PhantomGato-v- Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@mariotheundying ...Have you ever seen a shopkeeper be affected by age? Because I haven't.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@PhantomGato-v- fair point

  • @honk243
    @honk243 Před 5 měsíci +52

    i love gerson, he’s my favorite non-main character. glad you made a video to help spread his popularity and how interesting he is

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +11

      Yeah, it'd be super cool if this video helps more people learn to appreciate Gerson. c:

  • @pastalight
    @pastalight Před 5 měsíci +29

    Gerson in Deltarune seems like he'll be such an interesting character in terms of the past. I feel he'll have a similar role to Chara; I think he's going to have started some sort of 'chain reaction' long ago. His fantasy book series may have been based off his own experience with the Dark World, after all.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +9

      Yeah, Gerson and Dess both sit in a similar niche of characters who are known but (currently) unseen and there's a lot left ambiguous and oh so intriguing.

  • @MisterLambda
    @MisterLambda Před 5 měsíci +22

    I know a lot of people like to clown on this theory but the concept of Gerson’s essence being infused in his buried hammer, and that hammer potentially becoming a Darkner in some capacity is just so cool to me. Be it as the Knight or in some other role. I just love Gerson, I’m really looking forward to his role.

  • @pelpel788
    @pelpel788 Před 5 měsíci +18

    thanks for doing a video on gerson! i’ve always thought he was really underrated.
    undyne’s line about “he fought in the war… and survived!” as being something praiseworthy has stuck with me since i first played because it feels kind of horrifying. she doesn’t detail any real feats of his, so the very act of getting out alive being “heroic” is worrying. it always makes me wonder just how brutal and onesided the war must’ve been.
    also, really interesting catch on the gerson/gaster parallels! i don’t know what it could mean but it feels too convincing to be an accident.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +10

      Yeah, the war was described in the plaques as one sided, so his survival really is a big deal. It makes sense that Undyne would admire him.

  • @Solibrae
    @Solibrae Před 5 měsíci +5

    Alvin mentioning that he wishes that Kris could have met Gerson could also have been a hint for people to go back to UNDERTALE and pay more attention to him there as well.

  • @charismaentertainer1657
    @charismaentertainer1657 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Every shopkeeper in the genocide route feel epic just for being there.
    Yes even burger pants.
    “ I can’t go to hell. I’m all out of vacation days”

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +7

      YES. Burgerpants is another great character in geno. He's just so Done.

    • @SableJem
      @SableJem Před 5 měsíci +3

      And then there's Temmie, from what I can tell has one change in their shop on the Geno route (that being, changing the Cooleg funds to being a 1000g "premium" tem flake that doesn't actually heal more than normal tem flakes)

  • @ramshackle-stroll-pq9bb
    @ramshackle-stroll-pq9bb Před 5 měsíci +14

    gerson my beloved, he has always clicked with me even before deltarune expanded his mystic even more, im excited for more we have yet to learn

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +5

      Yeah, I think it's great that Deltarune made him more important and made his absence hit so hard. When I got to the grave, I was super sad. D:

    • @ramshackle-stroll-pq9bb
      @ramshackle-stroll-pq9bb Před 5 měsíci +3

      really baffled me and made me feel a bit melancholic originally tbh, sorta sticked out like a sour thumb looking at how the status of living and dead monsters (excluding yknow asriel) have been relatively consistent between the two games, chapter 2 really confirmed my suspicions that this charming old timer and how he has affected the people around him is gonna be a plot point once deltarune is more ready

  • @peggsnbacon
    @peggsnbacon Před 5 měsíci +3

    I've always felt that Gerson hasn't been given the amount of appreciation he deserves. I didn't even know about the murder run's dialogue!

  • @Brydav_Massbear
    @Brydav_Massbear Před 2 měsíci +2

    Gerson really is the coolest of old guys. I'm glad you did a deep dive on him, and just how interesting of a character he truly he is. He's a crafty veteran who has lived long enough to understand how the rules of the world works. And he seemingly had learned in his time during the war that humans operate with the logic of a typical RPG player. His resourcefulness is likely what made him be hailed as a champion amongst his fellow monsters. Also Gerson being a protector makes sense considering he's a tortoise. An animal that is known for being a living tank. Also, here's something you likely didn't know: did you know that Gerson's tarot card is the same as Gaster's? It's true! They are both representors of the Hermit.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Gerson saying "I'm not a hero, I never was" makes me think that he survived the war through more sneaky and even cowardly means. He also agreed that staying underground was the safest option, so he's way more pragmatic than someone like Undyne.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +7

      I like the idea another commenter had that he might've used shop mechanics as a form of trickery during the war.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Gerson saying he doesnt consider himself a hero does make me wonder, what if he failed to save his own son?

  • @manslaughter3180
    @manslaughter3180 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Dreams aren't only a part of the dialogue. The prophecy calls the DARK as "DREAMS" so there's much more to it than some might think, you are very much on the right track.

  • @Pouchster3300
    @Pouchster3300 Před 5 měsíci +9

    This is definitely one of my favorite characters. I just find it really cool he is a veteran of the war; and basically a living remnant of it.

  • @coreDesignix
    @coreDesignix Před 5 měsíci +16

    What's notable to me is that Gerson never calls himself a hero, and in fact says that he isn't one. I think it's possible that he did some very dubious things during the war, that he regrets by the time of Undertale.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +15

      I think his experience in a real war contrasts with Undyne, who, as far as we know, has never had to engage in a serious fight with a human before. She's all hype without prior context.

    • @sheogorath6834
      @sheogorath6834 Před 5 měsíci +4

      He also teases Undyne the Undying, which is kinda weird.

    • @piplupfan5106
      @piplupfan5106 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@sheogorath6834If you talk to him about heroes after Undying you get extra dialogue.

    • @sheogorath6834
      @sheogorath6834 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@piplupfan5106 I'm gonna ask you a source for that, the wiki doesn't say anything about it.

    • @piplupfan5106
      @piplupfan5106 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@sheogorath6834 Sorry, apparently that line was added in Bits and Pieces, and wasn’t in the original game.

  • @RandomNag
    @RandomNag Před 4 měsíci +2

    Imagine your on patrol for monsters during the war, and in the middle of a battlefield you see Gerson casually selling his ware

  • @BelBelle468
    @BelBelle468 Před 3 měsíci +2

    9:04 took that as a reference to how Deltarune was conceived, the ending being a dream T Fox had. But you pointing it out within the context of DR makes me so hyped. Knowing the conception of DR came from a dream, Gerson felt similarly, and it’s a game that deals with dreams as well makes me hyped for new meta aspects.

  • @grianjuju9438
    @grianjuju9438 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I just realised that number 7 is like a holy number, and the 7th soul is us

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +5

      Ooh, interesting observation!

    • @grianjuju9438
      @grianjuju9438 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Dorked i just never took it into observstion, that the 7th human has a role of a holy figure, while also Gaster the number 6 related invidual is a devil related invidual, chara calls themself a demon after genocide, so would that also mean that chara would be related to number 6? Or would they be just related to numbers like 0 or 1?
      Also I just started to notice that jevil is supposed to be like a maybe Jester Devil? Or an Evil jester but they have a lot of devil related stuff to them, but spamton when I think about it also has devil related concept Or more precisly a Fallen angel, and also him being about deals is a typical devil thing.
      Lastly if number 7, is related to the holy, and if that would mean also the player if that would be the case is related to that, then does that mean that we are an Angel in undertale and deltarune in a way? And if that's the case us being able to control a person with relations to angels(noele) also would be somehow related?
      Also another observation, the Angels always in stories have problems with devils/demons
      And well in deltarune and undertale we do have problems with inviduals related to those things kris/chara/ and also puppets (jevil/spamton) of gaster the real number 666 guy

  • @minecraftgrassblock3939
    @minecraftgrassblock3939 Před 5 měsíci +4

    How to beat humans in the war
    Step 1:trap them in the shop
    Step 2:close shop door so they're trapped

  • @ShadowSkryba
    @ShadowSkryba Před 5 měsíci +7

    Thanks for pointing out the Gaster paralels

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +3

      No problem! It's something I've been thinking about for a while, like HMMMMM...

  • @DrMechano
    @DrMechano Před 5 měsíci +7

    I always liked ol' Gerson. I'm hoping we get to learn more about deltarune's version as well.

  • @mmgmagic
    @mmgmagic Před 5 měsíci +4

    Something interesting that could also be of note is the Tarot Cards. Among some of the changes Toby made to them, one specific one was changing the Hermit from the Mystery Man to Gerson! It seems like nothing at first but, considering the other connections to Gaster that he's shown, maybe this decision has more of a leg to stand on for theories?

  • @souptaels
    @souptaels Před 5 měsíci +10

    Leave it to Dorked to dissect characters no one else would. Another awesome video!! Soup :)

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Mmmm... Soup. :) I do love to dissect some of the more overlooked facets of UT, that is true!

  • @drascia
    @drascia Před 5 měsíci +3

    Something to add to the "angel of death" part of the prophecy is it kinda rings true with the pacifist ending as well, considering Azrael is the angel of death, and Asriel is the god of hyperdeath.

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Gerson is one of my favourites. Thanks for recompiling this after the theory tumblrs closed down. I wish there were more comics about him and his meta manipulation

  • @PhantomGato-v-
    @PhantomGato-v- Před 5 měsíci +16

    Gerson is such a good character. You did him justice! (As expected, I love your essays)

  • @1BeautifulDuck
    @1BeautifulDuck Před 5 měsíci +2

    The shop keepers really become badass in the genocide routes. Burgerpants and Gerson go so freaking hard on this route, they should be talked about more.

  • @changvasejarik62
    @changvasejarik62 Před 5 měsíci +3

    5:38 peak as hero…
    When I think of what gerson was like it those days, the purple knight from castle crashers comes to my mind.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci

      I'm not familiar, but I am curious now. May have to look into it. :O

  • @bunni3492
    @bunni3492 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I just rewatched a genocide route for the first time since being around 12/13 (im nearly 20 now!) and realised just how much lore there is to unpack about Gerson , this is such a wonderfully made summary of him ! I've been loving your channel recently , very glad to have found it

  • @RylishZaliou12
    @RylishZaliou12 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Gerson was such a well fleshed out Character. so much potential, he has only for him to be ignored by the fandom along with his Dialogue in the two routes Geno and Pacifist. such the fate of being overshadowed he had along with the other minor Fleshed out Characters like Burgerpants.

  • @georgewebb9074
    @georgewebb9074 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Great character analysis of gerson dorked

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +4

      Thank you kindly. c:

  • @Beegsire
    @Beegsire Před 3 měsíci +1

    Honeslty I love his character but at first me liking him was basically "I like your funny words magic man". He's so naturally charming.

  • @skydragonslayer9820
    @skydragonslayer9820 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Been interested in gerson for a while.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      He's a really neat character, and I think there's a lot to say about him despite his limited screentime!

  • @citriosis
    @citriosis Před 5 měsíci +2

    Okay, look, I know at least some people are gonna be mad at the Gerson/Gaster part, but whether or not it's true, those are some _dope_ connections that were made.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      So far there haven't been too many complaints on that section. xD Which is good, haha.

  • @sparklybubbly9658
    @sparklybubbly9658 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I also find very interesting that in the tarot card set, there was a gaster card, but then it got replaced with a gerson card... hmmm 🤔
    Other thing i have theorized about him is that maybe he's a boss monster too, i mean in undertale he's alive and he doesn't have any children that we know of, and in deltarune, on the other hand, we know for a fact that he has a son (and a daughter too, probably) and what do you know he's freaking /dead/ but oh well maybe he's just alive after so long cuz he's a turtle and turtles live a lot

    • @sheogorath6834
      @sheogorath6834 Před 5 měsíci +2

      " i mean in undertale he's alive and he doesn't have any children that we know of" But at the same time he's physically old af, unlike Toriel and Asgore. So, if he's really a boss monster, he probably have kids.
      Anyways, the idea that he's a boss monster is kinda contradicted by his own dialogue on them. "He's a real interesting type of monster. The strongest type of all.
      We call 'em Boss Monsters." Doesn't sound like someone who is one.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah, I totally forgot to mention the tarot cards despite doing so in my Gaster video... OOPS. But another addition to the parallel for sure.

    • @redactedinfo8557
      @redactedinfo8557 Před 3 měsíci

      honestly the reason he's lived that long is probably because he's a turtle

  • @marcosandrey5059
    @marcosandrey5059 Před 5 měsíci +6

    The chad Gerson:survived a war with scope bigger than ww1 has absurd lore knowledge knows he cant be killed in geno knows the kings nickname and was called the hammer of justice and has undynes respect
    The virgin flowey:is just powerful with souls couldnt even get the souls without tricking a child
    Loses to the same child
    Tried to kill child before being stopped by old goat
    And conviced a child to murder before asking for mercy despite clearly betraying them

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +4

      My hot take is Gerson deserves the same popularity as Sans. He's just that cool.

    • @user-dj3jo8po4x
      @user-dj3jo8po4x Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@DorkedYESS, this needs to be true. He might actually be once we get to the end of DELTARUNE

    • @marcosandrey5059
      @marcosandrey5059 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Dorkedagreed :)

  • @jonathanhowells7864
    @jonathanhowells7864 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Undertale is so filled with personality that even a rock has as much personality as a random npc and I hope Deltarune gets an Xbox one release

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Huh, I never actually noticed the blasters look like turtle skulls. That's actually almost embarrassing, 'cause I'm fairly familiar with reptile anatomy.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      It was something I kinda googled on a whim, and then I was like "waaaait a second." It'd be really interesting if after everything, Gaster turned out to be turtle-like rather than what everyone expects him to be.

  • @tadeolaguarda6965
    @tadeolaguarda6965 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The first thing i did once i was able to explore the town in deltarune was search for Gerson, finding his grave hited me more than expected.

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I went through something similar myself.

  • @SuperSeasonChannel2003
    @SuperSeasonChannel2003 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gerson appears in Undertale Yellow as a fun event, you go inside his shop, and into waterfall, but aside from the shop, the rest of waterfall is blocked off

  • @skullzans
    @skullzans Před 3 měsíci +1

    One thing I wanted to mention on Gerson, the implications of the store effect of "I know you can't here, Knowledge like that is how I survived" likely mean that yes, nobody can fight him as he's a shopkeeper, BUT he DID have a hammer, why? Well, In war you can just...blow up the shop. Like, unironically just destroy the shop and now he's an encounterable monster. Also, Gerson is likely only one-shottable and aware of it because 1:He knows about LOVE, 2: He knows you have a L o t of it to be this far into fighting. 3: Damage scaling with LOVE no doubt happened to insane levels in the War.
    Like, imagine Humans who are level 873 oneshotting EVERYTHING. Asgore is the only monster who can dodge besides sans even if he never uses it, why? Well, at high levels every attack oneshots you, so you cant just sit there and take it. Monsters like Undyne being so full of determination that they don't die is likely seen as a rare ability rather than what it actually is... maybe even something that never came up as monster society was attacked in possibly a blitzkrieg-style war. I doubt they could rely on undyne the undying-like monsters forming, much less do we know for sure that isn't something unique to Undyne, so they always dodge. But the monsters who never saw the war? Why would they know to dodge? Why wouldnt they fight it assuming that its like any normal monster fight, minus the spells. Also why have physical weapons when you have magic? Because melee combat would decimate monsters if they couldnt use something that wouldn't take extra damage from LOVE...something physical like, I don't know...A Hammer or a Trident?
    This is a mess of thoughts, but it is something worth looking into IMHO, even if its just to discuss the possibilities.

  • @JackitK
    @JackitK Před 3 měsíci +2

    It's a bit after I watched it, but I wanted to say I've enjoyed listening to these theory videos behind the scenes, so I wanted to thank you in advance for putting the time to make these. This one in particular helped me appreciate Gerson more than I've already had and I feel that's neat. Mostly commented here, because I saw the recent Alphys video, had some thoughts, but haven't had a chance to watch it and it felt unfair to comment before watching it, but I already had this much written up. I'll probably be on mobile or somewhere I can't actually comment by the time I get a chance to watch the most recent video. So I wanted to at least say that these videos are great. I even got around to watching some of the non-Undertale related videos, like the Sonic and Paper Mario ones and they were a good time too.

  • @Pjo-Super-Fan
    @Pjo-Super-Fan Před 5 měsíci +1

    7:17 like just imagine:
    “there’s Gerson the hammer of justice none of our strongest men could lannn… is he building a lemonade stand??? whatever he’ll never see my attacks coming,” *literally runs headfirst into magic shop barrier getting knocked out cold*

  • @sloweia
    @sloweia Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love your character analysis so much. I usually watch stuff like this in the background, but yours, yours i save for cozy tea drinking evenings.

  • @grianjuju9438
    @grianjuju9438 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Holy frick! One new thing, remember the tarot cards with UT characters? I might be possibly be wrong, but guess who got replaced with Gerson? Gaster, gaster tarot card was replaced with Gerson! And i know! This might be going a bit too much into Detail, but it could be important, especially since gerson and gaster presence in Undertale and Deltarune is kind of swapped

  • @ChaosEnthusiast
    @ChaosEnthusiast Před 5 měsíci +2

    gerson is so underrated

  • @nikolamatejic7596
    @nikolamatejic7596 Před měsícem

    I find it really wholesome and funny how undyne followed in gerson's footsteps and became a royal guard like him. this reminds me of her influence over monster kid,who probably would've been the next royal guard (i doubt Papyrus) if asriel didn't shatter the barrier or if frisk didn't kill everyone,if gerson was the hammer,and undyne is the spear....what weapon could they weild?

  • @d0ntwearit0ut
    @d0ntwearit0ut Před 5 měsíci +3

    "Gerson Boom" being a reference to Smash doesn't mean the anagram isn't intentional he's from the same game as Asriel Dreemur who gets to have his name be a combo of his parent's names (one of which is ALREADY a pun) AND ne an anagram for Serial Murderer which is intentional as we know. Asgore may such with names but Toby Fox doesn't haha

  • @Videospiel-Man5730
    @Videospiel-Man5730 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Speaking of gerson, alvin and meta knowledge i think the dialouge option with alvin were he says that there arent sins in games (aka were asriel confesses the yoshi drop "sin")
    Is there to calm players of snowgrave after all just watching the route made me feel like a horrible person so having an npc state: "calm down its just a videogame" was just what my psychiue needed!

  • @FusionForceGabriel
    @FusionForceGabriel Před 5 měsíci +6

    While watching this i was having some thoughts theory, what if gerson Is the knight in deltarune? Maybe he's not really dead and just dissapeared? Maybe someone who's controlling or manipulating him to stay in the dark world? Idk just a theory

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +6

      You know, I have pondered if perhaps instead of dying, he disappeared into the dark world. It's entirely possible that Toby could pull a twist like that!

    • @FusionForceGabriel
      @FusionForceGabriel Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hmhm, also sorry for bad grammar, auto-corrector

    • @paolastrasser
      @paolastrasser Před 5 měsíci +1

      Oberon Smog babeeee

  • @bbb-vvv-bbb
    @bbb-vvv-bbb Před 5 měsíci +2

    Lovely video - Maybe someday we'll see him at his peak 💪🐢

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +1

      It'd be so cool if one of the newsletter comics involved Gerson, like that awesome Grillby's comic.

  • @JazEvoHead
    @JazEvoHead Před 5 měsíci +2

    GERSON VIDEO GERSON VIDEO 🔥 🔥 🔥
    and a great one as always, enjoy algorithm food 🍕

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Eyy, thanks so much! :) I will enjoy the algorithm pizza.

  • @drascia
    @drascia Před 5 měsíci +2

    Your analyses are always so amazing ♡

  • @RossOriginals
    @RossOriginals Před 5 měsíci +1

    I wish I could find the comic where Gerson kills a human explorer and took his hat, glasses, and journal, it sounds a little odd out of context but it was part of a series about the previous fallen humans

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ooh, that sounds really interesting. Love to see Gerson fancomics.

    • @RossOriginals
      @RossOriginals Před 5 měsíci

      @@Dorked yeah it stuck out to me because I haven't seen many instances of him in fan art but I could never find it again

    • @RossOriginals
      @RossOriginals Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Dorkedthough I don't think he was the focus, it was more of a... Like, "what could have happened to the other humans" thing.

  • @ViIvaNunner
    @ViIvaNunner Před 5 měsíci +1

    7:02 ferry cameo

  • @MetalizedSoul
    @MetalizedSoul Před 5 měsíci +2

    a character i wished was more known tbh

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Yeah, I feel like Gerson is appreciated but still overlooked.

    • @MetalizedSoul
      @MetalizedSoul Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Dorked Could not have said better myself, at least your AU does Gerson justice

  • @SableJem
    @SableJem Před 5 měsíci +1

    Gerson being dead in Deltarune is sad, but I won't lie, given that his name is an anagram of Goners, It oddly feels fitting.

  • @AloeHalo
    @AloeHalo Před 5 měsíci

    Your videos are really good! And you also made one of my favorite undertale comics of all time now that I have read it! Thank you for not only creating great things, but being so inspiring in your work!

  • @_c2
    @_c2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    gerson my beloved

  • @anominon
    @anominon Před 5 měsíci

    I enjoyed your take on Gerson in your webcomic btw. The idea that he has the journal and glasses because the human who had those stayed with him is... nice, y'know?

  • @Kess_P2
    @Kess_P2 Před měsícem

    Great video. Gerson is such an interesting character to think about.

  • @aleksaraodovanovic2595
    @aleksaraodovanovic2595 Před 5 měsíci +4

    you forgot he foreshadowed the undyne the undying battle....

    • @aleksaraodovanovic2595
      @aleksaraodovanovic2595 Před 5 měsíci +3

      is there any chance gaster and gerson switched places? and gaster is just stuck in a dark world selling items ?

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yeah, that's a good point, too. :O

    • @aleksaraodovanovic2595
      @aleksaraodovanovic2595 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Dorked you mean the second one or the first one? 😅😂

  • @thechargedfoxie456yt2
    @thechargedfoxie456yt2 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I believe gerson to be some sort of old friend to gaster
    Being the scientist he is it stands to reason gaster could have aome profound knowledge of self awareness. And since gaster no longer exists gerson wouldnt remember him
    It would explain how gerson has such knowledge of the rules pf the game, like you not being able to hurt him in the shop
    Evidence to back this is that soncw sans ia theorized to be gasters son or some other relative, he also contains large knowledge of the game, not to a fully self aware level but knowing how to manipulate the combat system
    The timeline also backs this up since gerson was presumably around during the war
    We also know hes quite old yet he doesnt age since he doesnt have children
    Atleast not in this universe
    In deltarune we dont know the time pwriod but we can assume its the same as undertales bases on the characters. While qe sont know if ita some kind of alternate universe or continuation we do see geraln is dead because he has a son, thus he aged since boss monsters dont age past a certaon point until they have children
    I believe gerson has some relation to gaster and thus has his self awareness that he cant be hurt qhile in the shop

  • @boomgirlbucko
    @boomgirlbucko Před 3 měsíci +1

    20k views is still a lot. You should be greatful.

  • @Averageavianenjoyer
    @Averageavianenjoyer Před 5 měsíci +1

    Yooo new undertale analysis love these type of videos

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks! :) This was a fun one to make.

  • @adeetalehotsoas
    @adeetalehotsoas Před 5 měsíci +2

    not what i would expect but seems good

    • @adeetalehotsoas
      @adeetalehotsoas Před 5 měsíci +1

      idk i'm just commenting for the sake of it

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +5

      I like to cover topics like this because a lot of cool aspects of UT/DR get overlooked in favor of more popular characters.

  • @BEAMED0274
    @BEAMED0274 Před 5 měsíci +2

    your videos are very good, your thumbnails are intruiging and you upload often.

  • @RTM_random
    @RTM_random Před 5 měsíci +2

    Of course, gerson is amazing

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      He's so cool and deserves more awesome fanart. B)

  • @ordoor
    @ordoor Před 5 měsíci +1

    Woo! Great video, as always!

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thanks! :) Glad you enjoyed.

  • @RiverOfTheHeart
    @RiverOfTheHeart Před 3 měsíci

    I wonder what other sort of tricks Gerson used in the war. Like obviously he didn't just put up shop in the middle of a battlefield even though that is a very funny image. What sort of loopholes could he use to save as many of his kind as possible before they inevitably were banished to the underground?

  • @Rogue_Rouge
    @Rogue_Rouge Před 5 měsíci +1

    gerson video, i have waited so long for this moment 🔥🔥🔥

  • @FlyingPotatoChickens
    @FlyingPotatoChickens Před měsícem

    the thing about gerson being alphys’s predecessor in deltarune instead of gaster drives me insane. I can help but draw a comparison to how irl, the artist of the undertale tarot deck was asked to change gaster’s card to gerson instead. really curious to see where the connection between these two is going.

  • @ajitsreepathi8013
    @ajitsreepathi8013 Před 4 měsíci

    Gerson's got balls to not leave in the genocide run.

  • @W.D_Gaster
    @W.D_Gaster Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wait I just noticed the glasses lmao

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes. The deal with it shades because it's funny.

  • @XxguaxinimxX.
    @XxguaxinimxX. Před 5 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @LaziL3M0NAD3
    @LaziL3M0NAD3 Před 5 měsíci +2

    LOVE EVERY VIDEO FR)M THIS CHANNEL!!!!!

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @timothylinga1427
    @timothylinga1427 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Didn't expect a gerson video, haven't watched the video, but i know this is going to be very very interesting

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +3

      I hope you'll enjoy it, then! I had fun working on it.

    • @timothylinga1427
      @timothylinga1427 Před 5 měsíci

      I replied late but that's genuinely a good video, like usual.

  • @Wilker_uwu
    @Wilker_uwu Před 5 měsíci

    i loved how some people explore Gerson's character back when i used to spend hours a day reading fanfiction.
    just a happy thought, but it would be sick if Gerson turns out to be the Knight in Deltarune.

  • @_darkblue1688
    @_darkblue1688 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I LOVE GERSON, WE LOVE GERSON!

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hm, this was a very nice and well done Video.
    His really a very interesting Character, I do hope the Deltarune lets us learn more about him like you say.
    Hm, say, have you done a Video on Temmie yet?

  • @johnniefinney3266
    @johnniefinney3266 Před 5 měsíci

    New video. Nice. Thanks for the video

  • @elstarnor4628
    @elstarnor4628 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I’d just like to say for I don’t know why that I made him a boss monster in my AUs for him to be able to have fought in the war and also live the about three and a half millennia until Frisk comes along. That might not make much sense grammatically

    • @Dorked
      @Dorked  Před 5 měsíci +4

      AUs can get away with liberties like that, to be fair. xD I think some monsters just have longer lifespans, personally, but we don't know if all boss monsters are fluffy and goat-like or not. It's kinda left unclear.

    • @PhantomGato-v-
      @PhantomGato-v- Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@DorkedMy headcanon is that his long life is in reference to him being a tortoise monster, while tortoises are known to be long lived irl

  • @giasfelfebrehber12
    @giasfelfebrehber12 Před 5 měsíci

    Something else about the angel being the “Angel of Death”-there’s a theory I personally subscribe to that Asriel is the angel. It would add some serious irony if Asriel (Azrael) was, in fact, the angel from the prophecy, and the people who called it the angel of death were, technically, absolutely correct.