TMI One Piece Headliner Kit Install | 1967-1968 Camaro | Firebird
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2021
- On this episode of Classics Are Better I am installing a one piece TMI fiberglass headliner in my '67 Camaro. All their one piece headliners install pretty much the same way, so hopefully this can help be a rough guide to some of yall thinking about going this route as well.
I will say that it took forever to do it alone, so give yourself PLENTY of time. The instructions recommend having at least two people, which after fighting this thing all afternoon, I am inclined to agree the more hands the better getting it installed.
Overall I think that it came out great. The A pillars didn't fit well, and need some further massaging, but I think all in all it looks pretty good, much better than the nothing I started with!
***UPDATE*** So I found the solution to the sun visors not fitting. You need to get TMI brand sun visors. Even though I had bought '67 Camaro Sun Visors from a reputable company, they were a different brand, and were too long as seen in the video. Just got my TMI visors delivered and they clipped right in with out any issues.
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Disclaimer: I am not a professional mechanic, so take my advice at your own risk. Consider my video as just a guide to a possible way to get the task done. Be safe and use your brain when doing projects!
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I haven't seen one of these headliner set ups, looks pretty cool! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching, it has held up pretty great. No complaints about it yet!
Didnt know this part existed. Definitely getting one.
It's a lot easier than messing with bows etc, especially if your tall. Best of luck on your project!
Can't wait to get to this point, I have a long road ahead of me.
One small project at a time and you'll end up with something cool. Just chip away at it! Thank you for watching.
Get yourself a "headlight" , definitely one of my top 5 tools !!
I have a few I just always forget to get fresh batteries in them when I need them lol, thank you for watching!
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Dude ! Rechargeables !
I bought EBL on Amazon charger and 12-pk of batteries $20 ish. I can't praise them but they work/last well enough.
@@kennethalbert4653 ill check in to them, thx!
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER some of their Chargers only charge pairs of batteries and my Headlights use 3 so I have many extras to allow me to wait to charge until 6 are dead. They do have chargers that charge the batteries individually (Better) so you don't have to play the "multiples" game, that's the way to go !
(I didn't see those when I initially ordered)
Thanks for the video. Do you have one for installing carpet?
Hey thank you for watching Jose, I don't currently have one for carpet, but from personal experience, lay the carpet out in the sun awhile to dewrinkle, spray some adhesive on the back, but give a few min before pressing it down to get tacky, then use a mallet or something like that to help rub the carpet down flat in your car/truck.
Haven't put my TMI headliner in yet but I did try to mock up the A-pillar covers and just like you said they are horrible! Don't even come close to fitting right. Not sure what I'm gonna do at this point but they aren't going to work as is. I'll either try to modify the TMI covers and then recover them or see if the stock ones will work with the headliner.
Thanks for watching, good luck with them! Hopefully your stock ones will fit in somehow. I didn't have any stock ones to try, so I had to trim the bottoms a bit and just wedge the TMI ones in. Headliner itself still looks great, but still boo on the A Pillars.
The TMI ones look great and fit like poop. I actually found the OER ones fit much better, but don’t look as good.
Thanks!
Thank you Mark !!
I guess I could make a fiberglass backing however it would be nice if they reproduced them for the 66/67 Charger since they came with them?
I looked on their site and didn't see one for a charger. Best of luck to you, lot's of video's on how to make a custom headliner, go for it!
Hey, Travis. I put this in today and it looks great. I have to mess with one of the sail panels and one pillar, but I'm pretty stoked so far. What kind of windlace did you use for the sides? I'm having trouble finding something that fits. Thanks!
Glad to hear yours fits good! Let me know if you have any luck modifying the pillar to work. I went back though my build list, looks like I got the windlace from Summit in a "headliner moldings r346" kit. Here is a link to the one that I had ordered.
www.summitracing.com/parts/OER-R346
I'm currently trying to install mine and I've a couple questions. On the windlace did you tuck the fiberglass and the black vinyl or was it just the vinyl? Mine seems to short on both side to tuck the fiber. Also the front and the back of the old headline had a molding did you install those because it seems the TMI curves up and I see no way of putting that molding back on unless I cut a bunch of fiber off and pull away the vinyl. You also mentioned having more head room, how did you get it tight against the roof? I've much less head room and mine doesn't seem to fit tight against the roof. I feel like it's made for a different car it fits so bad all round. Any info on this would be appreciated.
Thanks for watching! In my case on the windlace, once I had it all in place, I trimmed the vinyl to fit better as I went, mine had a lot of overhang on the sides, making sure not to cut too much. I removed the old moldings from the front and back and just installed the headliner as it came, seemed to fit just fine with out them on my car. Mine does fit pretty tight to the ceiling, did you add a dome light? That zipped mine up a bit. Worst case you got a wonky mold from the factory or it warped in shipping, might need to call TMI. Take a lot of pictures to prove your point before you cut up anything.
Hey man. Great video. Chose to go this route because of it. Out of curiosity what pieces did you need to secure the headliner? I got that the rear view mirror bracket, and sun visor bracket's hold the front up. You got the dome light holding the center. You have the windlace holding in the fabric on the sides. But is there anything holding up the back end? And is anything else missing to hold it up that i didn't mention already? Thanks
Hey thank you for watching Alex. You seem to have a good grasp of the front, the back is held up by wedging the rear sail panels into place. Best of luck on your project!!
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER thanks for the reply. I noticed that but wasn't sure if that was the only thing holding up the rear of it. I should have mine in by end of this week. Thank you. 🤜
did you ever get the a-pillars to fit right? mine seem about 3/4" too wide. they fit terrible like you said.
I got them to fit "better" by using a self tapping screw and not trying to push them in as tight to the pillar, but yes sir they were definitely the worst fitting part.
Did you use the wind lace at the front and rear, from video it looks like vinyl just wrapped over fiberglass.
I used the wind lace along the top of the door & rear quarter windows to basically pinch the headliner to the metal pinch weld of the roof. Far as along the front windshield and rear windshield, it is just the headliner itself, no wind lace.
Hey thanks for the detailed video, but I have a critical question: you removed the metal strips that surrounded the back glass and front windshield, is that because they are not needed with this one piece? If not needed, how is the windlace attached on the back glass area? TiA.
Those metal strips only work with the original bows headliner ( I believe), the TMI headliner is held up by the rear view mirror screw and visor mounts up front, windlace on the sides, and the rear is held up with the rear side sail panels. Thank you for watching!
Thanks for the super quick reply! This is good news, as I threw those strips away ( they were rusty due to leaks). Thanks again!
anybody go from an original to this? how much head room did you gain? as i sit right now my head brushes the headliner in my 68.
Hey Justin, so from the video you can see I didn't have an original headliner, but when I bought the TMI one they marketed it as giving you "two inches" of extra head clearance over stock. Im 6'3 and have spikey hair and I don't brush it. Good luck sir!
Was your expectations met as far as the additional head room? Did it really provide an additional 2 inches?
I didn't have a headliner to start with to compare it too, but I can say that I am 6'3 and spike my hair, I have stock seats in the car and I don't touch the headliner.
how much tension was on your dome light screws? Were you able to use the stock screws or did you need to go longer?
I just used the stock screws on it and it seemed fine. I did slip a piece of double sided 3m tape under it as well just as a little extra security.
Hey Travis! I fell way behind on your videos! Until today, I didn't know this type of headliner existed! Do they make one for our Impalas?
Unfortunately I haven't seen a one piece headliner out for the Impalas. It was definitely easier than messing with bows. I will keep an eye out for you. Looking for your 67 or 68?
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER looking for both the '67 is a 4 door hardtop, and '68 is 4 door post like yours
Is this easier to put on then a factory headliner
Honestly can't answer that, I have never put a factory headliner in a 67 Camaro, but I would assume that the bows and stretching the fabric etc it would just be another added headache to battle above your head lol. This would have been a lot easier with 2-3 ppl.
Is there any room underneath to put some insulation?
You could probably fit some dynomat type stuff that sticks pretty flush to the roof. There is a little space, but not a lot. I zipped mine up tight when I installed the dome light.
I just installed mine and was able to stick some under it with no problem.
Anyone have a part number for the windlace for the edge, or place to get it from? Thanks
I don't remember the part number, but the windlace I used in the video came from ClassicIndustries.com
I believe it is per k853, I’m still trying to verify it but I believe that’s it.
OER. Not per
Awesome man,thank you for this.
Gotta do one in my 67
Did you ever figure out a solution for the visors?
Hey thanks for watching, no sir, haven't quite figured out whats up with the visors yet. Since I didn't have any stock ones to start with and I don't have any friends with one to measure, I am still on the google research part lol. If I figure it out, I will post up on here for you.
I still have my stock ones in,I’ll measure them tonight
Went to order one but looks like they are back ordered on the vinyl,hopefully it won’t take too long
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER Measured on passenger side:
From center of the farthest right mount(tensioner screw)to end of mirror pivot stud is 18 5/8”
From center of tensioner screw to center of rear view mirror mount is 19 3/8”
Hope that helps
@@johnnyhotrod DUDE! Thank you so much. You just saved me a ton of time, I really appreciate it. It's storming here now, but I will get out there tomorrow and check it out!
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER No problem,good luck
I’ll probably have questions when I install mine
Thanks for the great video
did you ever figure out the issue with the sun visors? i just installed mine and have the exact same problem.
Not yet, I haven't really found any where online that has the physical dimensions. I think I am going to just drive out to summit one day soon and measure whatever they have in stock. I will definitely update what I find out when I do!
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER figured out the sun visors. i feel dumb for not figuring this out sooner but the rod that installs in to the mounts slides in and out. just get it to where its perfect and leave it. hope this helps someone.
@@darylcase1971 What brand are your visors? I just checked and mine do not adjust. Also found the old package, mine are "Distinctive Industries" ordered from Classic Industries, guess I need to track down some actual TMI visors.
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER it was the matching tmi visors. I bought them with the headliner.
@@darylcase1971 So my TMI brand sun visors just came in. Fit great. Weird the other ones say 67 Camaro, but were an inch off.
Question about the front and rear metal frames. It appears your not putting the windlace back on the front and rear of the headliner (just the sides) correct? Because you wouldn’t be able to put it on without those metal frames in place. Correct?
Yes I only used a windlace on the the sides. The front and rear fits pretty flush on mine, the screwing in the rear view mirror is what attaches the front and the rear sail panels hold up the back. I don't think your fingers would have room to use that front or rear windlace due to the glass being in the way. My headliner is still in great shape, I will say that it lasts, thought the A Pillars still suck lol.
Ok great info thanks. That’s a huge relief because I thought that would be the hardest part of putting this thing in. Now I don’t have to! Sweet.
Any tips on what is making the A pillars not fit correctly? I haven’t even test for them yet.
Thanks for the video. Helped me a lot so far
@@darinandalinahouse9596 Honestly I think that the A pillars are just from a bad mold, hopefully yours fit better, but mine are probably almost half inch too long (i just screwed them in), but I am hesitant to trim and mess up the faux leather. I did find that TMI sunvisors fit no problem, where my visors from Ecklers didn't for whatever reason, good luck!!
Well maybe the A pillar covers will work but I’m not optimistic based on all the reviews. Thanks again
One more question. Did you glue the headliner to the underside of the headliner with some headliner adhesive? And if so, did you glue the sides or just the front and back? My question is regarding the sides. Wondering if tucking it is enough or would it look tighter to glue above the sail panels?
Did you ever figure out the sun visor issue ?
Mounts on wrong sides ?
Hi Kenneth, so I ordered TMI brand sun visors and they fit just fine. They are just a little shorter than the standard ones I had ordered from another site. I never had any stock visors though, so I don't know which was more true to OEM size.
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER interesting... my guess would be that the first set were not the correct part #
(I appreciate the response:)
@@CLASSICSAREBETTER At some point I want to get that headliner, i first saw it a year or so ago, been in the back of my head since....and there is no dome light in my car, PIA.
What's your overall opinion?
(BTW, whatever A-pillar covers are in my car are horrible as well ! They flare at the bottom....above the height of the dash ! No idea whose they are, came with the car)
@@kennethalbert4653 So far I don't have any complaints on the headliner sir, , the A pillars do suck lol, but everything has held up great. I'm 6'3 so it gave me a little more head room than the stock style bows would have given me.
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Thanks for the response, I'm your height as well so the clearance will be appreciated but mostly I like the clean look.
I will pass on this one thanks for being honest.
Glad it helped you out, good luck on your project!