Former sub-postmasters share how Post Office scandal affected them
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2024
- Sarah-Jane Mee speaks to a panel of guests caught up in the Post Office scandal.
Balvinder Gill, a former sub-postmaster in Oxford, went bankrupt after he was accused of stealing more than £100,000.
Vijay Parekh spent six months in prison after admitting theft, but had his conviction overturned in 2021.
Teju Adedayo was given a suspended prison sentence, despite paying out more than £50,000 to make up a false discrepancy on her Horizon system.
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Any one else's blood boiling ????
Yes
Anyone else going to do something about it, and go after the worst perpetrators, make it really personal?
Nah, didn't think so.
The biggest astonishment for me is, do we always need some kind of TV drama in order to undo the injustices???
Look at the pace, since the ITV aired this drama, parliament is discussing it with full passion first time, making law to over turn the convictions. So called top executive is returning her CBE within 24 hours?
For 24 years since no drama was aired, lives of the victims was constantly ridiculed, highly paid executive was being nominated for CBE, days and nights both were beautiful for the top lot,,,, Until someone made and aired this drama….
Does the system knows how to work ONLY when some dramatisation is aired???? Ridiculous!!
It is absolutely shocking.
💯💯 They have to have their hands held to cross the street our government. Inaction and no clue about preventitive maintenance. They're as poorly organised as the NHS. They need to reorganise and begin a new set of core values for our country and society. I reckon.
It's Criminal not Ridiculous. 😡 Just listening how they have been treated. Shows the Law and Judicial system up. Government and the hierarchy. So sickening.
It’s a disgrace what happened to them.
I hope everyone gets the full restitution they deserve.. with no more delays.
It,s disgrace what happened to them. I hope everyone gets the full restoration they
Makes my blood boil.
We think private companies can get away with stuff like this, but here we are with a governmental institution kicking people in the teeth. The MPs that have jumped on the band wagon are the bottom of the barrel.
Post ofgice ran the operation,they did not go to the government to win them of problems they buried it!!!!
Never forget the judge that refused to accept the possibility that the computer system was wrong.
Its how they had remote access to their systems and lied about it.
The stolen money has gone straight into someone’s pockets. We need to find who that is
These poor people. Love to them for being so brave to do this interview.
Just unbelievable .... that is an organised crime on the top top level ...small people are absolutely helpless 😢😢😢 what they have been through and as it turns out somebody get 40% bonus from each case...
These poor people. It sounds like a massive extortion plan by a corrupt company to fund bonuses for company execs. Evil beyond words.
Listening this just makes me angry that the senior postal figures and their goons got away with this
Shocking . Justice for the postmasters. The bosses who profited from the postmasters misery should go to jail. The postmasters are incredible
😢 heart rendering the pain that people have had to endure
Absolutely disgraceful what these people were put through
People in charge of the post office at this time must face prison sentences 😢
I can't believe this has taken so long to be resolved. It's ruined lives.
Exoneration AND considerable compensattion. That this was even allowed to happen because of a faulty accounting system is beyond absurd. If these discrepancies arose around the same time period in different places with different people means the issue is probably not people. The Post Office and their auditors were sloppy and should be held to account. With the last lady sayign that the auditors were saying "oh, just pay it back and this will all go away" was a massive red flag. Nothing like this would ever "go away". Anyone in this situation, say nothing except to request a lawyer is present. The onus was on the RPO to prove that the money was sstolen, which mean full disclosure of evidence to police investigators and the defence counsel, which would have exposed the systems/accounting errors.
Shocking, the amount of stress caused.
Omg this story is touching..
What I don't understand is how a faulty piece of software led to so many false convictions. Were there no other financial records available in any of these cases? Why wasn't the prosecution required to detail exactly how the money was stolen? Surely the individual post offices would have had receipts for every transaction. I don't know much about accounting nor accounting software, but it's absurd that so many people were wrongly convicted by some numbers outputted by a piece of software, with seemingly no investigation as to how the software reached those figures.
Yes and anybody who has spent an hour or two testing and debugging software releases would find it unbelievable that ANYBODY would be convicted solely on the basis of a computer generated calculation.
@@olearyma57 Exactly. Where were the systems checks? Where were the flags in the system tracked? None of it makes sense.
It was robbery, on a grand scale.
I cried when I heard this bully boys visited these people. I have no words to express my feelings for these people so sad sad sad. Someone needs to be prosecuted for this behaviour.
Post masters earn between £25k and £35k a year. Who would take on this responsibility and grief for such a poor salary? where is the post office going to recruit new postmasters from after this terrible scandal? I wouldn't work for such a horrible organisation.
The lady storey brought tears to my eyes,omg
It's all very well for the public to feel outraged about it now but they were quick to condemn and villify them then!!!!!
The truth does hurt, for sure.
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In the end the Truth wins
very good, very touching interview.
Serious questions for Ed Davey and Keir Starmer to answer. They must face a full judicial inquiry.
The post office pursued their own prosecutions nothing to do with the cps or sir Keir.
I can't stand Starmer but he was head of the cps, the post office prosecuted people themselves not through the police and CPS. It's doubtful if these cases were reviewed by the cps it would have been caught
@@alexanderstefanov6474 Why repeat falsehoods that even Starmer himself has now backtracked on? Several prosecutions did indeed go through the CPS, and Starmer as DPP had the right to intervene in every prosecution (including private). His current line is that he "wasn't made aware" of any of the prosecutions.
The media, Sky News were very slow picking this up!
They should be given the monies they paid to the PO back. Plus compensation for distress, Health, jail time, character assassination and much more. Plus a televised apologies from PO and Government, police and judges. So much for the judicial system. Instead of providing a Scapegoat and a government inquiring dancing about for years before paying out and exonerating them.
"there are those that weren't strong enough" is such an insult from the host at the end there
People so innocent they didn’t know they needed to prove anything and when they did need to had no access to the data. In the US this would cost billions in recommendation, damages, full legal fees, time lost, earnings lost, and lifelong mental health support. It’s outrageous the post office hasn’t issued a formal apology and immediate individual assessment of damages and payouts including losses over time via interest. Families of loved ones who died via self harm or who became old or sick need compensation for their losses as well. These people should not need to sign anything for their compensation and all deserve a personal apology by all those who contribute to their pain.
I am totally disgusted to hear what these amazing people had to go through. Firstly where on earth are the Solicitors in this? There is injustice going on and NOONE is there to lead and assist these people? There are 2 main parts of this, the causal damage created by that Horizon system and the damage left to these innocent people in the aftermath. These innocent people need compensation for both parts, including psychological damage. £600,000 will not cut the teeth on that. Those accepting the £600,000 should put in writing they accept this as a PART payment of compensation and take action against the Government and post-masters etc. Thank god for that ITV series if not these people will be in limbo, RIP to those who took their lives and or passed away. My GOD, this and the Windrush scandal are horrendous. Jail those bad people involved please.
Exonerated?...these criminals should be imprisoned for a long time
the people involved should have to sell their houses like the innocent people had to
In tears listening to this
Hola Michael..🇪🇦...well l cannot see how this could all be unravelled...what a mess....so sorry for the people involved.. ..very good video as always... .🫶🫶🫶
I do not think British law has power to prosecute post office officials and the judge who put peoples life in misery
I hope when ALL these innocent victims, once the pillar of our communities - when finally exonerated- hope they all team up and set up a foundation or unite with us and help save our postoffices.. by showing the government how vital this service is to us and show them just exactly HOW a Postoffice should be run!.. I hope they are all fully compensated for their losses.. I'm sorry the emotional pain and shame can never be erased for them. ❤
Surely, when this was happening, over and over again. Hundreds of times they must have realised that there was a problem with the software and not the post masters? Its uttterly disgusting.
The contaminated Blood scandal should be next
All the news I've heard about this, they've not mentioned the colleagues who committed suicide!..?
They are postmasters, they don’t know each other
@@sadiqalam2815 As long as someone is representing the dead to compensate their families.
@@jaytei2 they are talking about their experiences, they don’t know about the people who passed away properly, so they wouldn’t be able to speak about it as well as it should be
So the compensation should be paid by that rubish software company and post office. It should not be paid by tax payer for their idiotity.
They went with the cheapest software that other companies turned down I bet. Rolled it out knowing it was crap.
The auditing that needs to be done is that related to the acceptance of the Horizon system by the Post Office from Fujitsu. Who in the PO signed off on Acceptance of the System as fit for purpose and in accordance with the Contractual Terms and Conditions related to Acceptance Criteria. There appears to be a significant lack of Programme/Project governance which led to the Horizon system going live in the first place. What possible reasons could there be to accept a system with such basic and critical faults as documented so far?
it's disgusting!!!
Close the PO down and the main players to do time.
The thing is that UN ordered no more paper from 2025. Finding excuses to abolish the post office will assist in that.
The actual criminals in control and their obedient servants should have proceeds of crime upon all they and their families own until honest auditors work out what was right and just for them to be paid. Major shareholders also. Were businesses such as Blackrock and Vanguard invested?
This unbillable I hope all those who caused this horror storey go to prison and pay back all the money back an a hole lot more , I for them all. The cow sons .
The British empire has a long history of causing misery for many people. I hope Paula Vennells gets The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire back. She represents fully that aspects of the British empire.
Affected?
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Yes, affected.
@@kurtgodel5236 a little typo correction 👍
Who would want to be a post master under the post office now.watch the knock on effect,watch 1090's come out with simular problems,this is going to be the biggest action against a company ever!!!
imagine if fujitsu was a chinese company. why cannot uk run its own post offices
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BBC and Pós Doutor j.j. Gomes Canotilhoo😢
PEOPLE SUPPORING PEOPLE..from a Bad Sysem who love o cause harm. Lets see this on and on
Going to get their jobs back
Back pay
This is a a scandel. How about the UK not voting to stop the war and asking Gazans how that vote witg the US and its arms effect them.
Trusting all these Japanese tat!!! 😂😂😂
Tat produced by British programmers employed by a Japanese company. 😂😂😂
Perhaps we need to stop giving contracts to people who despise everyone except themselves as 'Gaijin'. The same kind who deleted the atrocities they committed from their text books, 'worships' those who did the unspeakable cruelty to their fellow Asians which they still denies.
Don't do business withe PO DESTROY THE BRAND
This really hurts me listening to this. I am so sorry! 🩷🌻🙏🧑🏻🦼