That was the best tutorial on theory and function of a Coleman pressure lantern that I have seen. Thank you for going to the trouble and time to make it.
Bill. Good morning and happy holidays. In regards to my 635 canadian silver lantern, I didn't really enjoy the yellow/ orange light the peerless 111 500cp or the light the peerless 24-a 500 cp mantles were producing. I tried the peerless 2c-hg and I do like this lights brightness. I'm seeing no over burn and as always, I wanted to ask your opinion and if it's o.k. to continue using ? Thank you very much !
The 111 are the proper size. The 2C-HGs are waaay too small, but using them isn't going to damage anything. I would suggest that if the lantern is putting out better light with a smaller-than-spec mantle, you've got an issue somewhere in the fuel system.
@@king.coleman bill, good afternoon. I just received the coleman 335 . I'm gonna do my safety check and then I'll put on a peerless 111 and fire 🔥 it up. I'll give u an update . Thanks for all your advice !
@@wadeosceola6738 I hope it goes well. One suggestion: A 111 is too big for a 335. Use a Coleman 99 or Peerless 24A. If you don't have either of those, I'd go with a 21 or 2C-HG before trying a 111.
Hi, I have a 1920s era CQ Instant Light, it looks similar to the quicklite you did the quiklite video on, but has some features of these more modern Instant Lights. We have not had luck getting it lit. Is there a resource for an original manual for ours, or are you familiar with it?
You'll need to properly identify it first. If it's a CQ it won't be an Instant-Lite. It can be confusing, because some later models like the 117, 118, and 119 are stamped "CQ" on the bottom, despite not being CQs. All the gas models after the CQ were instant lighting and the Instant-Lite circuit can potentially have problems, whereas the CQ is very simple. About the only that can go wrong on a CQ is the generator. The early Instant-Lites had fuel pick-ups that are often clogged and will need to be cleaned. I'd recommend browsing Terry Marsh's website to ensure you've properly identified your lamp. Once you've done that it will be easier to isolate the problem. terry-marsh.com/coleman-us-lamps-3-after-the-mid-1920s/
Hi, hello from New Zealand, I have a 1980 206 kerosene lantern that hasn't been used yet, do you know if it possible to convert it to insant lite? I don't mind buying parts if it possible. Thanks for the great video.
No, not if you plan to burn kerosene. There's no way to "instant-lite" kerosene. It has a higher flashpoint than gasoline and requires preheating. In theory you could swap the entire fuel system with components from a comparable gasoline-burning model, but it would be a shame to do that to a 206. It's a relatively rare model.
@@king.coleman Hi, thank you for your reply, I was thinking of converting it so I wouldnt have to use kerosene and preheating it. I saw video of someone doing the opposite so I think I may just have to change out the generator, cheers
@@qubaru7223 It doesn't work that way. You don't need to change the generator to burn gas. A kerosene lantern will burn gas just fine, but you'll still have to preheat the generator. The Instant-Lite system is in the fuel pick-up and valve as you can see in my video. You might want to watch my other video on Quicklite and kerosene theory of operation. They have simple pick-up tubes and the valves are either open or closed. This is why the generators have to be preheated (regardless of which fuel you use). To do away with the necessity for preheating, you'd have to replace the kerosene valve and pick-up with those of a gasoline Instant-lite model.
Gas pressure mantle lanterns and lamps are similar to Aladdin lamps in that they product light by causing a mantle to luminesce, but they do that in very different ways. An Aladdin draws up unpressurised kerosene into a burning wick, while these use pressurised gas or kerosene and a generator/vapouriser to make a flame. Gas pressure lamps can run much brighter than an Aladdin lamp can-550 cp in the case of models like 621, 635, and 639.
Do they want you to open the valve all the way when running because there is a back seat on the valve so you don’t have to rely on the valve stem packing to prevent leaking? Awesome video! Best one I’ve seen on the operation of a lantern. Thanks!
@@king.coleman Sorry for the incorrect wording. I don’t understand it either. Maybe I will get it right this time. Back seats are used on valves to prevent leakage passing through the valve stem and packing. You have to open the valve all the way to seat the back seat. The back seat reduces the pressure on the valve packing. Hope this sounds less confusing. I was wonder if the Coleman lanterns use back seats on their valves. I edited my first reply.
@@olehemlock I understand what you're asking now. Most Coleman valves-they differ from one model to another-have some kind of stop on the inner side of the packing. Based on what I've observed of them, they're not tight enough to make any kind of seal. I could be wrong. Most clearly don't. Some might. The fact is that one of the most common failures on old lanterns and stoves is the valve packing. When bad, they leak no matter how far you open the valve.
@@king.coleman Thanks for the reply. I never had one apart. I was trying to grasp the reasoning behind fully open. Probably has more to do with operating as designed. I do know this much, really enjoyed your video. Got to go back to your channel and watch some more of them.
Being retired, I've watched a lot of instructional videos on CZcams. I think that these might be the very best I've ever seen. 🙂
That was the best tutorial on theory and function of a Coleman pressure lantern that I have seen. Thank you for going to the trouble and time to make it.
Best operation explanation I've seen. Thank you.
If I'm not careful, I'll learn something. Good job from West Michigan!
Another great informative video.
Wish I had found this channel a couple years ago.
Thanks for sharing and God bless
Awesome explanation of how these operate, Thank you!
A great Video! Now I understand the principe. Thank you!
Great explanation of the process. Thank you
This is brilliant, thank you for this video !
This video is exactly what I needed to troubleshoot my new ( to me) 202. Thank you! Back to the workshop...
excellent video!
Bill. Good morning and happy holidays. In regards to my 635 canadian silver lantern, I didn't really enjoy the yellow/ orange light the peerless 111 500cp or the light the peerless 24-a 500 cp mantles were producing. I tried the peerless 2c-hg and I do like this lights brightness. I'm seeing no over burn and as always, I wanted to ask your opinion and if it's o.k. to continue using ? Thank you very much !
The 111 are the proper size. The 2C-HGs are waaay too small, but using them isn't going to damage anything. I would suggest that if the lantern is putting out better light with a smaller-than-spec mantle, you've got an issue somewhere in the fuel system.
@@king.coleman bill, good afternoon. I just received the coleman 335 . I'm gonna do my safety check and then I'll put on a peerless 111 and fire 🔥 it up. I'll give u an update . Thanks for all your advice !
@@wadeosceola6738 I hope it goes well. One suggestion: A 111 is too big for a 335. Use a Coleman 99 or Peerless 24A. If you don't have either of those, I'd go with a 21 or 2C-HG before trying a 111.
@@king.coleman o.k. will do . I did my safety check and I put some 3 n one on the pump cup , and I believe I'm ready to fire 🔥 up
Hi, I have a 1920s era CQ Instant Light, it looks similar to the quicklite you did the quiklite video on, but has some features of these more modern Instant Lights. We have not had luck getting it lit. Is there a resource for an original manual for ours, or are you familiar with it?
You'll need to properly identify it first. If it's a CQ it won't be an Instant-Lite. It can be confusing, because some later models like the 117, 118, and 119 are stamped "CQ" on the bottom, despite not being CQs. All the gas models after the CQ were instant lighting and the Instant-Lite circuit can potentially have problems, whereas the CQ is very simple. About the only that can go wrong on a CQ is the generator. The early Instant-Lites had fuel pick-ups that are often clogged and will need to be cleaned. I'd recommend browsing Terry Marsh's website to ensure you've properly identified your lamp. Once you've done that it will be easier to isolate the problem.
terry-marsh.com/coleman-us-lamps-3-after-the-mid-1920s/
Thank you, from this site I believe ours is a 118.
@@maggieh6399 So that's going to be an Instant-Lite model with a "slant" generator. The pick-ups on those can be cranky and easily clog.
Hi, hello from New Zealand, I have a 1980 206 kerosene lantern that hasn't been used yet, do you know if it possible to convert it to insant lite? I don't mind buying parts if it possible. Thanks for the great video.
No, not if you plan to burn kerosene. There's no way to "instant-lite" kerosene. It has a higher flashpoint than gasoline and requires preheating. In theory you could swap the entire fuel system with components from a comparable gasoline-burning model, but it would be a shame to do that to a 206. It's a relatively rare model.
@@king.coleman Hi, thank you for your reply, I was thinking of converting it so I wouldnt have to use kerosene and preheating it. I saw video of someone doing the opposite so I think I may just have to change out the generator, cheers
@@qubaru7223 It doesn't work that way. You don't need to change the generator to burn gas. A kerosene lantern will burn gas just fine, but you'll still have to preheat the generator. The Instant-Lite system is in the fuel pick-up and valve as you can see in my video. You might want to watch my other video on Quicklite and kerosene theory of operation. They have simple pick-up tubes and the valves are either open or closed. This is why the generators have to be preheated (regardless of which fuel you use). To do away with the necessity for preheating, you'd have to replace the kerosene valve and pick-up with those of a gasoline Instant-lite model.
So are these almost like a miniature Aladdin lamp mounted upside down?
Gas pressure mantle lanterns and lamps are similar to Aladdin lamps in that they product light by causing a mantle to luminesce, but they do that in very different ways. An Aladdin draws up unpressurised kerosene into a burning wick, while these use pressurised gas or kerosene and a generator/vapouriser to make a flame. Gas pressure lamps can run much brighter than an Aladdin lamp can-550 cp in the case of models like 621, 635, and 639.
Do they want you to open the valve all the way when running because there is a back seat on the valve so you don’t have to rely on the valve stem packing to prevent leaking?
Awesome video! Best one I’ve seen on the operation of a lantern. Thanks!
Sorry. I don't understand your question.
@@king.coleman Sorry for the incorrect wording. I don’t understand it either. Maybe I will get it right this time. Back seats are used on valves to prevent leakage passing through the valve stem and packing. You have to open the valve all the way to seat the back seat. The back seat reduces the pressure on the valve packing. Hope this sounds less confusing. I was wonder if the Coleman lanterns use back seats on their valves. I edited my first reply.
@@olehemlock I understand what you're asking now. Most Coleman valves-they differ from one model to another-have some kind of stop on the inner side of the packing. Based on what I've observed of them, they're not tight enough to make any kind of seal. I could be wrong. Most clearly don't. Some might. The fact is that one of the most common failures on old lanterns and stoves is the valve packing. When bad, they leak no matter how far you open the valve.
@@king.coleman Thanks for the reply. I never had one apart. I was trying to grasp the reasoning behind fully open. Probably has more to do with operating as designed. I do know this much, really enjoyed your video. Got to go back to your channel and watch some more of them.
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