Miguel Llobet: original recordings introduced by Robert Spencer
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- My recording of a radio broadcast from the 1980s in which Robert Spencer introduces recordings made by Miguel Llobet (3 in duo with Maria Luisa Anido).
Coste: Etude Op 38 No 23
Sor: Etude Op 35 No 22 (ie. Segovia #5)
Llobet: El Testament d'Amelia, El Mestre
Mendelssohn: Song without words Op 62 No 1
Albeniz: Evocacion
Aguirre: Huella
Llobet: Study in E (played by Leif Christensen)
Quijano: Estilo Popular Argentino - Hudba
Awesome! Thank you for posting!!
00:05 Coste: Etude Op 38 No 23
02:28 Sor: Etude Op 35 No 22 (ie. Segovia #5)
05:38 Llobet: El Testament d'Amelia, 07:50 El Mestre
11:30 Mendelssohn: Song without words Op 62 No 1
14:45 Albeniz: Evocacion
20:27 Aguirre: Huella
23:01 Llobet: Study in E (played by Leif Christensen)
25:34 Quijano: Estilo Popular Argentino
Thank you for these incredible recordings now almost 100 yrs. old! I studied with Rey de la Torre in Fremont CA 1977 - 80 and we worked on most of these as Rey was a pupil of Llobet. Rey would be proud of you. Thanks again.
Gosh, it must have been fantastic to study with him. I have one of his old LPs, it is really excellent. Glad you enjoyed listening to the Llobet.
Thank you for all these wonderful treasures. We have lost so much. Thank you for reminding us of what we still have as human beings.
Glad you are enjoying them!
Sorprendente l'uso delle inégalité nello studio di Sor. Furono una delle principali tecniche di diminuzione dell'epoca barocca francese, generalmente per l'andamento di note per grado congiunto. Insolito sentire l'inégalité in un arpeggio. Quanta consapevolezza, quanta tradizione ininterrotta? In epoca contemporanea ricompaiono solo nella musica jazz. Argomento interessante da sviluppare
Best guitarrist of all times, and a teacher of the teachers...and good players...
Jose Osorio Vanesteca It is a style of playing that seems to have gone out of fashion, hopefully it will return (those duos are just so beautifully played).
Thanks for this broadcast, st-girl. I really think he was one of the truly great guitarists, certainly the greatest arranger I've ever seen in the guitar world.
+Rob MacKillop Glad you enjoyed it. Was interesting to hear Barrueco recently say maybe Llobet was right in arranging Albeniz for the guitar rather than just doing a straight transcription
Thanks for publishing this.
Reading through the artist credits is quite hilarious. Segovia gets it all - even when he is not playing nor had any involvement in the production. I understand that’s how the recording industry works (like Sony’s recent celebration of John Williams’ 88th birthday and his many film scores. They did mention that he [JCW, presumably] was a talented guitarist, which was nice of them.)
The remaining credits for the Llobet recording go ‘various artists’, so thank so much for posting this video. Very much needed!
And thanks to both Robert Spencer and to you, by extension, for including my late beloved teacher, Leif Christensen.
La galassia romantica della scuola di Tarrega attraverso le più grandi interpretazioni dei suoi esponenti che suonano la chitarra del genio Torres ancora ci commuove.
... ! Tive, O Previlégio ... ! De, "Conhecer" - Muito Bem... ! Este Genial "Artísta - Guitarrista" ... ! Miguel Llobet ; Através, Das : Maravilhosas Palavras, Do : Meu Mestre Emílio Pujol ... ! E, Também, Através , Do Meu Mestre ... ! Isaís Sávio - E, Ex: Discípulo, De : Miguel Llobet, Conjuntamente, Com : Maria Luísa Anído ... ! Em, *Buenos Aires E Montevidéo * ... !!! ...
As long as the written music is there he will never be forgotten.Thanks for the echoes of the origins.
Welcome, thanks for listening!
Wonderful; thank you for posting these little gems!
Every good thing will happen to you, selfTaughtGirl! You are causing wonderful music to improve the universe.
Ha, would be nice, thank-you!
Student of Tarrega who didn't use nails and still made the guitar notes sing. Just read about Llobet in an article and looked up his name here and found this. Thank you for sharing history.
Glad you enjoyed it!
que maravilloso es escuchar las obras, con tan grandes interpretes
Carlos Lucio Garcia Glad you enjoyed it.
This is great played so many of his arrangements in my time. I remember playing Coste: Etude Op 38 No 23 first year at music school want easy . Thought the sor study sounded beautiful beautiful phrasing
I don't particularly see Llobet as "better" than Segovia. I personally think that both played beautifully and were fully worthy of the tag "virtuoso". It does seem to be a modern fascination that someone MUST be "best". Music is not a competition, surely. It's about the quality of the expression and bringing out what is in your heart....at least, it is to me.
composing is all and says all and he created music of pain and muses came so compared to Segovia originals i take the first.. as i aim to break hearts more than Claire de lune Monteverdi and some Bach as my high standards to out compose
sorry, but you have a SEVERE case of tin ear. there is no comparison. segovia could not sniff where llobet pissed. llobet is whipped sweet cream while segovia is dreamwhip non-dairy topping. llobet is prime rib while segovia is a tofuburger. llobet is slivovitz aged plum brandy while segovia is boone's farm wine. llobet plays MUSIC while segovia is a bumbling clod stumbling his way thru a series of disconnected notes. comprende vous?
I agree. We should have standards, and call out even the greatest of performers (present and past) when they fall from those standards. However, at the end of the day, there is much to be gained from the greats, regardless of what one thinks about their playing.
Having written that, Segovia is a household name even among non-classical guitarists. Llobet is not, but should be. Programs like this hopefully rectify that.
"Tarrega was better than Segovia . . . " Really? You heard Tarrega perform? I love it when people paint their personal opinion as fact. I think Segovia was better than the others you name put together, but that's me.
I agree with you. We do not have to compare but rather enjoy each musician. It's a present from life. But, the fact that Segovia is declared to have been the father of the classical guitar and having rescued the guitar from the hands of the flamencos is so unfair. It is to ignore all the classical and romantic composers who preceded Segovia. It is disrespectful, even to his con temporarios like Llobet, Pujol, Regino, Anido etc. Arrogance to be the greatest, stepping on the head of so many Spanish, Italian, Russian composers, etc. I enjoy without comparing. Really Nice to listen Segovia, but, please, is not the only and the grate. Saludos
Un grand talent de son époque qui aurait mérité une plus belle carrière... qui n'est jamais proportionnelle au talent qui n'est qu'un élément entre autres... certains ont plus de talent d'arriviste, d'hypocrite, de "pousse toi de là que je m'y mette", de poignardeur dans le dos, etc...
Souhaitons qu'il ait été très heureux avec son art... c'est l'essentiel...
Nice to hear the old masters
Thank you for taking the time to share this recording. I am listening to music that I have never heard before.
Glad you enjoyed it. I love the duos, a type of beautiful playing that seems largely out of style at the moment.
Wow! Thx for sharing this treasure which I never heard!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The genome RT scheduled this for broadcast on 26 AUG 1983, which fits the 1982 release of Llobet by the fine guitarist Leif Christensen.
Excelente documento. Ningún guitarrista puede decir q no haya tocado algo transcripto o arreglado por Llobet. Un grande
El maestro de mi maestro ...guardo las indicaciones de sus transcripciones !
Quien fue su maestro?
@@r.r.47 Tarrega
What a gem! Thank you for this! 🎼🔥🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Fantastico!
I know it's an old recording but if you disregard the hissing this is gorgeous. Llobet has such a deft touch. You can hear where Segovia took his inspiration but who could blame him. We're so lucky to have these recordings. There's so many virtuous guitarists that we know of but will never hear.
This is such a treasure! Thanks a million for sharing.
You are welcome.
Thank you for sharing
Hace años tuve el placer de tener esa misma guitarra en las manos cuando se restauraba en el Museo de la Música de Barcelona.
Thank you so much for this, been playing "El testament d'Amelia" and there's nothing like the master himself for me to take ideas on the interpretation.
Hope Mr LLobet gives you lots of inspiration for playing this lovely piece.
Thanks again for this Unique recording, very hard to come by. You are doing a fine guitarristic service!
Glad you enjoyed it!
maestro. qué coste! y mimí magnífica, como siempre. gracias, selfTaughtGirl
Wow! Thank you!
Welcome!
Mi maestro grande,. Senior M. Llobet
Un documento para entender el estilo romántico de finales XIX y principio del siglo XX, se ha perdido9 esa manera de usar glisandos y vibrato tan hermosos en esta música
Exacto. Porq todo se somete a la velocidad y evitar ruidos parásitos. Así se pierden formas expresivas.
@@jjorgelaffargue ¡ tienes TODA la razón !!!
Ya está comenzando a volver por suerte esa forma de tocar - aunque si bien hay muchos que exageran y tocan como si tuviesen Parkinson- . Cuando estudiaba en el Conservatorio poco más te pegaban con una regla en los dedos de la mano izquierda si usabas vibrato o si tocabas Bach un poquito rubato.
Wow! This is wonderful. Thanks for posting this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I recently found out about Miguel Llobet (thanks to algorithms of CZcams) and oh lord, what a great approach he has towards playing guitar... I used to consider Segovia as the best classical guitar player of all times, but now I think that Miguel Llobet can play in the same league with him... Thanks for sharing these masterpieces... It is really hard to find recorded music by Miguel Llobet...
Chanterelle collected his recordings and produced a CD, not sure if its still available. If you can't get it, Stefano Grondona CDs of LLobet's work are a great listen.
Llobet and Pujol are the best of all times !
Fantastic! Thanks for sharing
bzeliotis Glad you enjoyed it.
A fantastic document from the 1920s. It shows the ground from which Segovia's style sprung.
Yes, and I understand Llobet was very helpful to Segovia too and Segovia held him in high regard as an artist.
I can believe that!
Reading currently "Miguel LLobet del Romanticismo a la Modernidad"edited by Javier Riba,Im aware very clearly that Segovia even as a young musician had the the same awful attitude he had with the great Barrios Mangoré( Clearly depicted in Stower´s Six silver Moonbeams") that is "I learnt all from you ,but now get away from my way looser" behaviour... I acknoledge Segovias legacy but this jelousy and lust for glory as the King of the guitar I really don´t understand.Miguel Llobet was further more, was a Poet, a man of culture and inventivness.
so great
That special tone must be the 1859 Torres tornaveu that he acquired in 1916.
18.10.2021: Happy birthday, Miquel!
Llobet was my teachers Prof ...he was a great performer ...and played at the White House ..in his time ..a student of Tarrega ....he also taught Segovia and many others
That's quite a guitar family tree!
@@selfTaughtGirl Thank you !
I've never heard the Coste study played so fast; amazing!
Listen to Kazuhito Yamashita play the Coste piece. It will sound like a different piece because of the blazing speed at which it is played.
The recording is accelerated
Speed is important. But the way he play. Sound like a bird.
The bridge to Tarrega
Thanks for this one, a reminder that many different paths are available to players. This one is quite nice.
I do rather love their playing of the Albeniz.
@@selfTaughtGirl I passed this on to a friend of mine who wrote back saying that listening to this made him question the modern tendency towards loud guitars, bizarre tonal effects and so on. Also, the direct student/teacher human relationship of past times may well be preferred over 'the listless sameness' which modern institutions seem to inculcate into the playing of their students. There is a lot of dehumanization afoot in the world today, but none in this playing. So very nice, direct ... and refreshing.
The Alexander Alekhine of Classical guitar. The World Master
Wow!!!
Nice commentary!!!
Thank you @selfTaughtGirl for this valuable recording. I love Segovia and acknowledge his stature and contribution to the promotion of the classical guitar but in many of his interviews he talks as if no one before him did anything for the guitar and that until he came on the scene it had been nothing but a lowly, vulgar instrument played by flamenco street entertainers! It is a shame none of those interviewers ever dared to challenge that claim and remind him of the existence of Tarrega, Torroba, Llobet and others.
@Iksr: Some even view Llobet as Segovia's teacher in that sense that he inspired Segovia so much. S could be sitting there at Miguel's feet, listening. Llobet died so prematurely... (With this I think I might have given one of my views on S as well.)
Also: many thanks selfTaughtGirl, we really needed this
Glad you enjoyed listening. I guess Segovia was so successful, in part, because he was a good salesman!
@@selfTaughtGirl Indeed, Miguel was not, perhaps he didn't even had the opportunity, too early like. Someone called S a haughty prat - OTT surely but I understand the thought...
Thank you so much for sharing this. I never realised that Llobet had made recordings; I thought he pre-dated that technology! What a wonderful musician and inspiration for the (then) young Segovia.
Allan Wells Yes, I read in Segovia's biography he called Llobet an artist, though he thought his recordings didn't do him justice. High praise indeed.
Allan Wells
andres segovia was mostly jealous, not inspired by ...
+ricardo moyano You are an idiot.
+ricardo moyano I believe this actually.
A guitar maker in Spain recalls Segovia being most influenced by Agustin Barrios, as he played much better when he returned from his first trip to sth America when still a young lad. On that trip he met and heard Barrios play, and this was the crucial point in Segovias formation of his matured playing style and sound. I dont think Segovia himself acknowledges this in his biography. The sadi guitar maker recalled Segovia as young and precocious when he first met him.
Amazing
Interesting. Never expected el testament d'amelia to be played so lightly and quickly.
thank you so much for posting this. i never even imagined any recordings of Llobet existed. now i will have to find them all.
Chanterelle made some of them.
Honestly, I think the speed is by accident increased due to the oldness of the tape.
A note on names:
LLobet's first name should have always been spelt Miquel with a q. This is because LLobet was Catalan. In Spain it's at least nowadays more acceptable to preserve first names as they occur in the different languages that make up modern Spain ie Castilian (aka Spanish), Catalan, Basque and Galician.
Yet, for a few hundred years, so often for different reasons the names would appear in their 'Spanish' form. Eg Francisco Tarrega for Francesc Tarrega or Fernando Sor for Ferran Sors i Muntades (in Sor's case they also conveniently lost the final s in the paternal surname Sors. Not surprisingly this final s is typical in Catalan but unknown in Castilian).
This happened ever since the times of the Spanish Inquisition. Since then there was a Spanish state-sponsored 'castilianization' of Catalonia. Many Catalans I'm sure would also have themselves given up their 'Catalanness' in things like their names, as the dominant political culture was a Castilian one.
Now and again, some more politically/culturally conscious people like cellist Pau Casals (he self-exiled due to the dictator Franco) strove to keep their name in its Catalan form (Pau as opposed to Pablo). Casals was a passionate independentist - and also played at the US White House- for the Kennedys.
Now, after 500 years of expoliation and 'assimilation' where any major things Catalan had to be converted to Spanish, over 2 million Catalans are democratically demanding the return of our statehood and the capacity to decide our own political future.
buen mitin
@@alejandrogarcia-puente6948
Pero falso
You are not more silly because you don't wake up sooner.
Who was introducing in your mind these spurious ideas?
You are a full ignorant about what was happening in Cataluña and what is happening nowadays.
So please remember Mark Twain and read the correct information.
And never more write waste and false ideas about España and Cataluña.
Leave politics out, this about guitar music, always some dork gotta ruin it with political crap.
@@richardtorres5940 political crap can be useful to remember that guitar is more specifically speaking catalan contribution to music, more than spaniard. This is to point out differences and a more rich scenario about iberian or spaniard cultures.
One of main links to bridge the style of Tarrega for which no recordings were made. Llobet was a student of Tarrega and im sure his style carried over - thanjs so much for sharing.
Steve Longobardi Yes, we must be hearing some echos of Tarrega through him.
and Rey De La Torre was Llobet's protege, and one can hear both masters in his playing. he has always been my favorite.
@@johnmichael1594 My first guitar teacher, Tom Anthony studied with Rey de la Torre and he introduced me to his wonderful recordings.
@@stevemurtha2699 you are so fortunate to be numbered among the descendants of Tarrega, Llobet, de la Torre... pls continue to keep the living memory alive. God bless.
Maravilha!
Charming
Льобет не использует ногтей! Какая изысканная ритмика! Особенно в каталонских песнях. Видимо это звук Тарреги. Я в восхищении. Браво Мигель!!!
Таррега играл без ногтей и с ногтями ученица Льобета Мария Луиза Анидо играла с ногтями
great
The first peace is unbeliaveble, its the best record of history, because nobody do it in this tempo, never. How do it? Devil
+Vít Kalivoda It is pretty amazing but have a look around you-tube there are some very talented individuals showing how they can do it too.
Kahuzito Yamashita recorded it too at a similar speed
for me it sounds like a musical joke
Snap! I also recorded this! And when I heard the Coste Study I wet myself as I was playing it for grade VI and at little more than half the speed. I still don't know how he did it!
operafan98 Yes the Coste is quite something. Quite a few on you-tube seem to be able to play it this way too. One of my favourite "Music for Guitar" programs (love the duos)..
operafan98 Llobet uses rest stroke playing this study
There are, and have been, many great guitarists from many cultures and styles, why this endless discussion of who is/was the greatest??
Well put. One should be looking at the historic development of modern classical guitar and recognize the contributions for each of the past great guitarists. Judging by their compositions Fernando Sor, Mauro Giuliani and a host of other early composers must have been very accomplished guitarists. Today we have very excellent guitarists that have their own strengths in interpretation. I have my personal favorites and another listener will have a different set of favorites and neither one of us is wrong. We just have different tastes.
Correctly played without nails guitar notes are like water
El aporte del Romanticismo en la guitarra clásica, la Guitarra Torres y la técnica de Tárrega, una nueva guitarra cuyas capacidades sonoras estaban ligadas a la técnica de la mayor concentración de sonido de la mano derecha, con uñas y a veces sin ellas.
Coste's Studio (A) sounds in Bb key, Sor's Study (Bm) in Bb ( lower pitch than our A=440hz generally adopted by current guitarrists). I think the Coste Study should be edited lowering tempo to fit their real tuning at that time ( less than 440) and therefore its real speed.
I listen to some of these so many times, the wonder is that selfTaughtGirl didn't wear them all out before getting them digitized!
Indeed, some didn't make it, others barely just!
Makes you think guiarists like Segovia, Maria luisa anido, and Llobet no doubt were all great guitarists. But I bet it didn't matter who was the best when they were around each other or played together. Ever seen the photo of Llobet and the young Segovia along with others gathered together? Its about tone in your playing and feeling. Love for the guitar. Oh and for the record His transcription of Pedro Quijanos 'Estilo Popular argentino' is wonderful. Immediately he inspired me to learn this piece the first time I heard it.
+Ghost of Christmas Past Yes, from what I've read Segovia thought Llobet a real artist. I have seen that photo in a few books. I think there is also one Segovia at the opening of Tarrega's grave (not sure I'd have been too keen to be present!).
I wonder what he hoped to achieve by being at the opening of Tarregas grave? Maybe he thought Tarregas spirit was still hovering and might jump into his , Segovia's ,body? Bizarre!
Delicious recording!!!
How you did it?
I didn't have to do very much other than record the radio broadcast, I recommend getting the CD made of Llobet's recordings.
Запис на радиопредаване от 80-те години, в което Робърт Спенсър въвежда записи, направени от Мигел Лобет (3 в дует с Мария Луиза Анидо). Coste: Etude Op 38 No 23
Like anyone, I've had my phases with who I liked most. Llobet being one of them :)
Still, I always seem to return back to the 'source' ..Francisco Tárrega ;-)
This is fantastic- thank you so much for taking the trouble to post this. On which station was this first broadcast? I would guess BBC Radio 3, due to the announcer's accent, but that may not be the case.
Yes, its from their series of programmes "Music for Guitar"
Those of you who insist on using vulgar language in an environment of classic guitar music, its composers, players and lovers of it, are assumed to be unable to play it themselves...
Absolutely! Some people seems to think foul language does more than display their own paucity of vocabulary.
I'm always curious/fascinated about how they even end up here. It's like seeing a shirtless guy in The Louvre drinking a can of Budweiser.
Mark Harris Vulgar language? really? i don't see there's vulgar language here.
Mark Harris
freedom of speech so piss off hoser
you classists need to fuck off. enjoy the music
Is he tapping the fretboard at the start of this piece?
If you mean the very first piece he plays, the Coste, he is stopping the bass string immediately after playing it - its the object of this study as it has to be done throughout the whole piece.
É o próprio lloblet executando ?no início?
This is better!
And to think, he’s doing all of this (if I understand correctly) without nails.
I happen to be reading some of Segovia's comments on Llobet and he said Llobet did play with nails
Interesting. My source is a general reference book (which must be wrong!)
@@spb7883 I don't know enough to know for sure!
Yes, without nails, I play without nails too, I confirm this is the sound of this technique
spatial trees Then I was right
Have more like this it?
Not of Llobet.
Un virtuoso sin lugar a dudas, a veces muy atropellado y alterando la metrica....pero es Miguel Llobet y todo se le perdona a un grande de la guitarra clásica.
20:27 Aguirre: Huella
Сборная Испании гитаристов если так можно назвать это Франциско Таррега, Мигель Льобет,Мария Луиза Анидо, Эмилио Пухоль, Андрес Сеговия
Datz fast !
🙂👍
what is the iniecar rhythm?
Notes inegales was a performance practice in older music of playing notes, which are notated in equal values, in more of a dotted rhythm.
@@selfTaughtGirlIt would have been acceptable if Llobet maintained the inegales throughout the piece, but he didn't and it wasn't.
Is mendelssohn Piece a duo?
Yes.
コストの練習曲での高速 i m をどうやって弾いているのか、なぜスタッカートにできるのか、いまだに分からない。
I don't know if it's just me, but I find that they use vibrato quite extensively. Kind of like Django Reinhardt did. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, but rather just making the observation.
I hear what you mean. I wouldn't mind some players bringing back that style for some pieces!
Yes, it does bring a certain flair to the music and the playing, LOL!
Watch Ian Watt videos on my channel DK Classical Guitars. An example of a wonderful young player who uses vibrato extensively.
Ok I did just that. He plays well. The thing I liked most though, was the "dryness" of the recordings. It's hard to still get that level of "undoctored" classical guitar recordings nowadays.
Thanks for your kind comments Abdul. The producer of these videos is a top sound engineer. Ian Watt is a great player. He recorded all the guitars on these videos without rehearsal in one take.
Don’t you thing that sound like Chaplin’s movie?
lo studio si coste mi puzza,sembra stato accellerato
Sí. Il suona in sib.
Interesting.
I'll continue to hold him in highest esteem for his legacy of transcriptions and arrangements, but as a performer and interpreter? not so much.
17:28 urgh, what's going on there?
L l o b e t was better than sebovia
+ar ag Best in hostory of clasic guitar
+ar ag In fact, he was, but he died just before the sound tchnique got better.
Who's Sebovia ?
S e b o v I a was segovia s real last name
Before he changed it to segovia
He also lied about being self taught cause
Llobet was s e b o v I a s real teacher
Not true. Segovia was self-taught, but did consult his mentor Llobet from time to time.
what was el testament d emelia??? fuckin shit thats what. The geezer needs to feel sad, an hes not
Err, I don't know how to respond to this! I'd guess he knows what he's doing....
se iproprio un cazzaro barny brogan!!!
El Testament starts at 5:30
Wow, the rhythm is not what the composer Sor intended. I am sure he was a very good guitarist, but the rhythm really ruined this for me.
Segovia means to guitar what Franco means for Spain. Listening to this, Villa or Barrios, Andrés is a clear downgrade. Decades stating himself as the only truth..., unable to compose or produce a proper arrangement, I'm quite sure the guitar world would be much better had he not existed.