Doomed London Underground Train Carted Away For Scrapping
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- This filmed shows damaged London Underground C69 stock train units numbers 5532 & 5575 on train working No. T717 at Northwood station where they were taken away (by road) for scrap.
Train working T717 was normally operated by A stock trains which were sent for scrap from Northwood.
The reason for scrapping these four cars is that the the two units (which comprised 2 cars each) were involved in a side-swipe in Hammersmith Depot, and with the looming replacement of all C stock trains by the new S stock it was decided to scrap (rather than repair) the damaged trains.
The film includes one car (6575) being taken away by flatbed lorry and ends with a few still images showing these trains through the years.
This train represents a very rare working of a 4 car C stock train - although originally designed to be able to operate in 4, 6 or 6 car formations in the event they almost always operated in 6 car format.
Also seen are some other trains passing by, including Chiltern Railways Classes 165 & 168, S stock trains and the A stock RAT (rail adhesion train) which is used to prevent falling autumnal leaves from creating a hazard in the steel rails.
In London, they'll scrap a train for simply being too short.
Meanwhile in Scotland and Wales, state-of-the-art horse drawn wagons are being deployed.
Exactly, I’m Scottish and our trains where I live are from the 70/80’s
What else do they need? Who lives there now? They all live in England!
it was damaged and two brand new S stocks were anyways coming so they won't spend money on repairing
Meanwhile on the Isle of Wight, they were running the modified 1938 stock until they simply couldn't run any more! By the time the 484s were announced to replace the 483s, only two of them were usable, with the rest in various states of disrepair and repair. Credit to the engineers at Ryde, they kept the '38s going until the very end. I'll be quite interested to see how the Epping Ongar Railway goes about getting the two 483s they purchased up and running again.
In Singapore, the train will be scrapped after over two / three decades of service or when refurbishment of the train failed. Some will be preserved.
I remember spotting the trains on the lorries as a child on the way home from school with my mum. Also as my dentist is by Northwood station we saw a lot of them there as well. I’m glad you posted it to youtube
Lucy Wood yer I saw the exact one and lorry Severn years ago when I was younger
1:42. A stock: Hello! Where are you going?
C stock: I’m going to the scrapyard...
A stock: Well, that’s terrible! I am so sorry I asked, I will miss you!
2:13 S stock#1: haha! So you’re the one I’m replacing! It’s a shame to see you go, but we must make way for the modern Engines you know!
2:32 Class 168: Hello! Why the sad look?
C stock: I’m being scrapped...
Class 168: who would want to scrap a useful engine like you? That’s a shame.
2:47 Class 165: ohh, you’re the one being scrapped. Class 168 told me about you. I am very sorry that is happening.
C stock: thank you...
3:37 S stock#2: oh hello, I wish they were not scrapping you because of our arrival. It makes me feel terrible! Why can’t we all just work together?
S stock#1: Don’t be silly! We can’t work with these old fashioned rust pots!
S stock#2: Oh shut up you!
6:21: Lorry: come on! I can’t be late to the scrapyard because of you!
C stock: Easy for you to say! You’re not the one being cut up into pieces!
Boy you are anthropomorphising, I can be your friend.
Diesel17 K Lorry: Ah shuddap. Trains like you deserved to be scrapped.
Car #1: Could you guys keep it down? I’m trying to take a nap!
The Driver:I’m so sorry that you’re going to the scrapyard
C Stock:Thank You,Hopefully some of my friends will be Preserved,I guess they’re lucky
ive never cringed so much in my entire life
U deserves the 100th like
1:42
C stock: Is being scrapped
A stock: EEE EEE EEEEEEEEEEEEE EEE EEEEEE
7:10 Doomed underground train passing a doomed Blockbuster video, signs of the times...
With the train shouting "YOUR NEXT"
And the Blockbuster shouting back "MY NEXT WHAT?" :P
ah yes, the D78 stock, when first introduced. I think I will have some film of these.
Also the 1983 tube stock on the Jubilee Line - these have now been withdrawn but happily I do have some film of them on youtube (internal and external views) and there is at least one more film to come which will show them.
I bet the train was recycled into millions of model trains, mats, frames and so much more.
Wildlife / supernanny fan 1355848 yeah
Sad, but informative film. When they start withdrawing a class of stock it's usually damaged/defective ones that go first, quite often stripped of components. Sad to see this unit actually arriving under its own power though. The older views of the pre-refurbed C stock brought back memories too. As time proved, not even the example very expensively rebuilt after 7/7 was spared the scrapyard. They should've kept that one at least.
I was the lead engineer on the C stock project at Ealing Common when they were refurbished, sad to see the old girls being scrapped. :...(
Always strikes me as saddening to see perfectly good vehicles being taken off for scrap, when they could just as easliy be put in a museum. But then, I guess it's the way of the world...
there are other trains (same model) which they could still display in the LTM
TARDIS9 i imagined they would've went to the Isle of Wight, usually some of London's old stock is used in their train system.
But they are not perfectly good. They are old and passed their life expectancy.
Unfortunately, you can't save everything but thankfully, a C77 driving car has already been dispatched to London Underground's Acton Depot for preservation, while two others are known to exist elsewhere in the U.K. Also Zorrays J, the Isle of Wight's 'Island Line' only uses deep tube stock being as these trains have to negotiate the rather low Ryde Tunnel.
Only small tube trains can be used on Isle of Wight. Not Metropolitan line, District line, Hammersmith and City line or Circle line trains.
The bridge you filmed from is near my house and I used to stand there on a stool daily after school when I was little. I remember watching a stocks get carted away, and now when I stand there it's sad to remember. :(
I would love one of these in my garden, it would make an excellent manroom, Thanks for uploading !!
Unsteady footage? Hell my tripod is shakier than this guy.
Travis Dunningham
Thought the same!
RayEttler
I didn't see any damage. They looked perfectly fine to me.
low down on the side - at least one set of sliding passenger doors could not open
It would've been minor damage, but it was beyond economical repair due to the replacement of the C Stock with the S Stock, a process that began in 2012 and was completed in 2014.
hahah me2
Off to the Ilse of Wight I guess
@@1nsanejochem no thats the d stock, the train getting removed is a c stock going for scrap
Great to see all the trains, but also sad for the train that is going to get scrapped.
A ready-made restaurant somewhere in London that will be perfect
A great great fantastic video. Really enjoyed it 👍. Many thanks from chris 👍
Thank you!
Perfect museum piece here, it's not like it's seeing service any time soon.
Thanks for that. I did see the damage but did not think it was that bad.
District Line between Wimbledon and Edgware Road and Circle Line. They were also on the Hammersmith & City Line but I think they have all now been replaced by S Stock.
The Circle Line is expected to be converted from C stock to S stock in September 2013.
rip thanks for all the journeys. i spent this entire video saluting the train.
Thanks for posting but I can't help but feel sad for the train even though it's only an inanimate object. I guess to us who love trains & machinery they are not totally inanimate; I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been known to sit in the power car of a class 319 just so I can hear the sound of the electric motors, the electronic control gear and (when on overhead) the transformer.
Martindyna Quite so, I still miss my days as a motorman on the old Southern Region, going along on an old MK1 EMU, windows open, motors singing away. The new stock is just so souless. Even the 1980's 455s,442s and 319s sound nice, as do the 70's 313/507/508 types !
For me it's more the "waste" of a perfectly good, albeit old, train.
It should only be scrapped when it's not viable to keep it.
You're right. Think of all the thousands who journeyed in it.
Zulisian it is not viable to keep it. trains were around 40 years old, accept change
Bro your not alone. I got to sit in the drivers seat of a wright liberator bus. They are gone now...
Superb footage!
Love watching the class 165 passing by
Very well documented.
6:20 car: I am Speed
Saddest thing I ever saw i my life-- Poor train--- sigh-
I struggle to believe that there isn't a home anywhere for this old stock.
LongStripeyScarf three cars have been preserved... I think they are all C77 versions, as the C69's had issues with asbestos. If someone had the space and the funds then they could have preserved a 4 car train, this being the minimum sized train that could we used - although they nearly always operated as 6 car trains they were actually built to be capable of 4,6 and 8 car formations.
So we have lost something then. Is there not a London Transport preserved railway at all?!
Wheels onthebus
Isle of wight?
blimey, blockbuster on the corner! northwood was my local station growing up.
A very good video of the changes of times
Although I have no chance or meet you C Stock Because I am living in Singapore.I wish you a happy retirement and have a safe trip to reap in the depot for the heavens!
my first reaction was why would you make a film about a tube train being scrapped. But then I looked at its sad face :(
i prefer steam loco,s and medium size deisels class 20,24,25,26,27,/17/16/08,09,and small shunters not a fan of 3rd rail but do not mind them.
Great video thanks for sharing. 😁
Thanks for watching and commentating!
Nicely put together video.
The-Lord-Laing Thanks :-)
I Live next to a bombardier depot and I saw the old d stock district lines left on the side. Used to ride those beauty's everyday to school.
Interesting video, thanks for sharing. I managed to get photos of the last few on the Wimb-Edg Rd.
Was this unit heading for Booths or Eastleigh?
I'll bet everyone.thought WOW a train car on the motor way. enjoyed the video.
Thanks, pleased to enjoyed it :-)
re it being on the road, LOL yes, thats quite likely - and express a wish that it was on the railway !
I lived in Northwood when this happened. Very scary standing on the corner of the hill on the highstreet when the trucks went around with the trains on them looking like its about to tip!
domposty From where I was standing I also wondered if that was going to happen. But it turned the corners very slowly!
Excellent camera work. You did a great job.
As far as I can recall, I do not have even one still image of either of the special livery C stock trains. That time consuming slavish activity called 'work' got in the way.
However, I possibly do have the old moquette, I still have still image films to digitise of these trains, although as they are 110 negatives they are very grainy (dating from when I was a teenager... many many mooons ago).
Great video!!!!
Hi just found you so much you have an amazing channel maybe even amazing and fantastic have a good day
The S stock going past was like a boy looking up to his grandfather and the whistle was that boy screaming for his grandfather to come back
Thank you city transport for replying. That near miss wasn't the only one with London Underground! After a while on the Jolly Old 207 bus, almost each week, someone would crash into my bus, whilst in a bus stop. I got so fed up, I went on The Underground, I thought, YOU CAN'T FIND ME THERE!!!! One morning at Northfields Depot, I was crossing the tracks in the shed to get to my train, WHEN! A TRAIN CAME THROUGH THE SHUTTERS!!! I THOUGHT...."THAT'S IT, I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!!"
Through the shutters? yikes and cripes... sounds like someone has you in their sights!
Who am I talking with, nice to know. I have a HORROR story about Cockfosters Depot!
That was a lot sadder than I expected 😭😭
I still can't believe it happened a Northwood, of all places. There's a depot at Neasden, but I suppose it makes sense - that road's less busy.
I remember seeing trucks coming through Neasden from the depot transporting this stock away. Quite a lot of people came out on the streets to watch them leave. It was kinda sad lol
new S stock trains are still being built... the Circle Line is expected to be converted from C stock to S stock in September 2013.
Then the District Line will start being converetd, but I am not sure if in 2013 or 2014.
Its Highfield Road which is to the south of Northwood station. You need to look at the map for best orientation.
From the station walk along Green Lane, down Hallowell Road and then into Highfield Road.
Wild to see this recommend to me again, I remembered the thumbnail from 11 odd years ago
that's right, WS Graff Baker was the designer for the 56/59/62 tube stock, the best air chime whistles btw were on the mentioned tube stock .
There is a place in Shoreditch, East London, which has a couple of ex-London Underground trains passenger carriages used as a bar of some sort. Forgot the name of the pace but its on Great Eastern Street where there use to be a railway bridge that crossed over linking Liverpool Street Station.
the guy at the bottom left at 6:55 be like:
I’VE MISSED ME TRAIN!
I'm going to miss the C-Stock
Only time I went on one was 2012.
still_guns Keep the C-Stock away from T-Stock!!!
Two questions. What's with the center rail of the tracks? Who's steering the rear wheels of the low-loader?
The London Under Underground uses a four rail system whereby an outer rail and the middle rail are part of the power supply system. I suspect that the low loader's rear wheels steer automatically; exactly how I regret I do not know.
Thanks God the proposed refurbishment livery never saw fruition!
for me,the S Stock trains passing by are like shocked and are using the whistles lol.
ksiong Bus Fan London Underground trains don't have Horns,they have air whistles
Skip Haddad sounds like a protest !
Wow that's sad. They are crying because they are seeing their parents being taken away and they know someday that will happen to them 😢
Does the London Underground run on a separate line to the rest of the UK rail system? Does it use the same track gauge or a different gauge?
Some very good questions, the answer is complicated.
First, the easy bit: yes all London Underground trains use the same track gauge as the 'mainline' railway system.
re: interworking: right from the early days when the trains used steam locomotives there was interworking. The Metropolitan Railway was just one of the many privately owned railways here in the UK.
Nowadays Bakerloo line and District line trains include sections where London Underground trains travel on tracks owned by Network Rail whilst part of the Metropolitan line is served by 'National Rail' (Chiltern Railways) diesel trains. In most cases these are jointly operated services so that passengers can catch any train, depending on their destination and which comes first!
North of Queens Park - Harrow & Wealdstone
Gunnersbury - Richmond
East Putney - Wimbledon*
Harrow On The Hill - Amersham
*(Nowadays the South West Railway trains do not call at these stations, and since 1994 the route has been owned by London Underground, even though the signals are still owned and controlled by Network Rail)
Plus there are places where London Underground trains travel on their own tracks alongside mainline trains.
Parts of the Circle, District and Metropolitan lines travel on the same tracks but they use trains which look very similar (S Stock) and this is nothing special. Technically the S stock are subsurface trains - NOT tube trains. They are far too big to fit through the small 'tube train' tunnels.
But in west London the Piccadilly line (which uses the small 'tube' trains) shares tracks with the District line (Ealing Common station) and the Metropolitan line (Rayners Lane - Uxbridge)
Also, the Northern line north of East Finchley and most of the Central line east of Leyton were built as 'steam train' services with Underground trains taking over in the 1940s. But goods (freight) trains still ran until the 1960s.
All of these jointly operated services have operated for over 100 years!
This web page on my website has more information.
citytransport.info/Shared.htm
Hi
Could you possibly tell me where this bridge is?
love the underground and the C Stock. Also going the same way are the D stock. only
saw a handful of those on my last visit.
So sad really.
At least LUL still have vintage sets on the Piccadilly and Bakerloo lines.
Where did all the C stock go for scrap?
The C stock train really looks like an underground train. like the original
If you want the nearest 'tube train' station then its probably Stanmore.
However if you just mean 'London Underground' station then you can see Northwood in the video - both right at the start and when the low loader lorry drives past it.
This station is on the Metropolitan line and in Zone 6, but since this uses subsurface trains and not tube trains so its NOT a 'tube' station..
I filmed from the footbridge just beyond the southern end of the station & a road bridge a little further south.
In a month or so wholesale scrapping of the entire C stock fleet will begin, with S stock trains replacing them.
This train was scrapped a little earlier after it was damaged in a way which needed expensive repairs before it could be used in passenger service again.
Its probably best to read rik94523's comments to learn more.
Is that the old Mansion House? Can the pic be used in wiki if u dun mind?
No way... a *Blockbuster*
I liked the little Leyland tractor with its wasp striped bufferbeams, rare you even see stock that old so its sad to see it hauled off to the cutters torch
Seen a few of these in CF Booth's yard in Rotherham over the years.
How does the fast metropolitan line trains share the tracks with the Chiltern mainline?
technically the tracks are owned by London Underground and Chiltern's trains have running rights - this dates from the days when trains from Marylebone went to Nottingham, Sheffield, Manchester, this was a jointly operated line.
Very interesting. I thank you for sharing this. Here in New York, there would have been some slight differences in the procedure. Primarily, the cars would probably first have been taken to a maintenance facility where they would have been de-powered and stripped of anything useful or hazardous, like batteries, florescent tubes, and window glass. Then they would be towed to the scrap track by diesel locomotive...there are a few vids of this...
Also, those cars don't look very old....
The rolling stock was from the late 1960's.
The disposal of the old trains was carried out by a specialist company. I suppose that it means that all costs were known in advance so should an issue arise then its for the company scraping the trains to worry about - not the transport operator.
+citytransportinfo Thanks. yeah, New York is also trying to dispose of 1960s equipment. But we had some stuff from the 70s that was in even worse shape. As a result, they had to keep about 280 cars from 1964-65- the R32s if you've heard of them. Anyway thanks for recording and sharing this video!
Got any pictutures or videos of the Yellow Pages or Back the Bid C stock trains also any images of the oringinal square moquette that they had until 2001-03 when the spatter moquette took over.On the whole I will miss these trains they have been in service for 43 years and they've always been good to travel on even thought they get very crowded. RIP C stock :(
If I had a big piece of property and had the money I would buy all the trains up and make a museum out of them
The British seem to be very passionate about their trains. I don't think anyone in my neck of the woods would give a toss if one of the public transport trains was hauled off for scrap. They probably wouldn't even notice.
I suspect that there are some Brits who feel likewise.
I must say you sure are Multi-talented when it comes to cameras citytransportinfo but when i come back to london i'll sure miss the C Stock
Ladies and gentlemen we regret to announce that your service is going backwards, forwards then backwards again, to the delight of a throng of assembled enthusiasts.
Rip the C-Stocks, my fav train
@ Citytransportinfo. Thank for the info. I dont think stray currents are a Problem with the three rail System otherwise other countries would have thjs Problem at least Hamburgs three rail :Ubahn has no probs with leakage. I think London is the only place which uses four rails.
what happen for it to be taken to be scraped?
O trem ainda é o melhor meio de transporte no mundo. Feliz o povo cujo o chefe da nação cuida de suas ferrovias! Rio RJ Brasil
44 plonkers are "doomed"..and nice bit of bonus footage @6:12..
the north unit had side panel damage, so the doors on that unit would have some problems opening...if they open at all (watch the bit of video where the unit is coming southbound into the siding and you'll see it)
Blimey, that's sad.
I left London in early 70's, these weren't old then (more likely I'm so outta touch!). These from front remind of the old RF s decker, even the first series of DMS buses (LT standardisation). Am sure saw these at Uxbridge at least 6 cars long, all in LT Red, or maybe was older stock ¿? Please correct me if I'm wrong....
How much does the unit weigh
my favorite train till this day
are tfl selling any of them?
Sad to see this train go, but such is progress, I suppose.
Cool vid nice one.
The London Underground and the UK's national railway share tracks at this location?
Also this will probably be Singapore's C151 MRT trains in a few years' time; they have decided to replace the trains instead of refurbishing it, though I'm hoping they can save a few for preservation or at least consider refurbishing the better-performing ones. Not keeping my hopes up though.
Not only do they share tracks here (albeit only the fast lines) but at one time the route was used by express trains from London (Marylebone) to Leicester, Nottingham, Sheffield and Manchester!
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The C stock!
Were any of chiltern railway trains going to West Ruislip?
Some do - from London's Marylebone Station
citytransportinfo oh ok
Skip Haddad
Skip Haddad Not from Northwood. The line splits after Neasden. This is the Aylesbury branch via Amersham, the original Metropolitan Railway. The other branch becomes the old Great Central Railway for a while as it passes through West Ruislip, nowadays going to Banbury and Birmingham, though there is another short link through to Aylesbury on that branch from Prince's Risborough.
I remember riding the A and C stocks like yesterday. So suddenly they have disappeared. Only a matter of time until the D stock goes :(
Planestrainscomputer I know right the classic district line is like part of my life
Planestrainscomputer D stock stikl exists but not in London
you now the 8 car trains you can run from back to front I used to call them the funny train when I first saw their apperance
couldn't they just recycle
the C Stock train to a better one like they did with root master buses. its like the old buses you get in from the back
Planestrainscomputer
Sad... Hearted breaking...
yep ! simon is right !, that is what i did with LUL whe they got rid of the 1962 tube stock, i asked them for as much as i could cut off and cart away, and now i own several bits of LT history in my living room !
Ive always wondered how people who are intrest in trains know when what and where things are happening is there like a twitter or website to follow? :3
I follow a "railgen" yahoo group and also use the realtimetrains website, which is for mainline trains. Info on Underground trains is much harder to find, as its rarely publicised - because they dont want horders of trainspotters getting in the way when special non-passenger services are operated.
why did that doomed trains sibling pass by doing that wired sound sounded like it was angry it literally looked like it teared through and what explainable the sound from the rail runner train to do that wired sound ?
Why the rare off peak Fast S stock train?
Can’t believe it’s cheaper or better to transport the old C stick by road 6 lorry journeys for that train when you could couple another six and haul them by rail and it would be more eco friendly
Bizarre how not long before these trains had gone through extensive refurbishment to bring them up to modern standards, then not long after get taken out of commission.
The whistles on these things sound exactly like steam whistles. Is this the most perceived sound in fog? Or tradition? Or does it bother the residents the least?
50 yrs old train..
Which lane was that ? Piccadilly
The C stock were Subsurface trains, they were approximately the same size as main line trains and operated on three lines, all of which were originally served by steam trains - Circle, Hammersmith & City and the District line service between Wimbledon and Edgware Road. The Piccadilly is a tube line which uses much smaller trains - at present the 1973 tube stock. These will be scrapped in a few years from now, when the next generation of tube trains are introduced (estimated mid 2020's, exact date remains to be seen!)
What I found funny is when these were going down the road the pedestrians didn't even care that a tube train is going to be torn up
they probably were peeved that the train was travelling by road - instead of going the whole way via a railway route
where was it scrapped