Land for Two Peoples: Beyond Zionism to Peace and Justice: Dr. Gabor Maté and Ilan Pappé

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • 'Where Olive Trees Weep' June 6-July 31, 2024
    whereolivetreesweep.com
    This conversation is released with the premiere of the documentary 'Where Olive Trees Weep', along with 21 days of talks on Palestine with leading historians, spiritual teachers, trauma therapists, poets, artists and more.
    Watch this full video and all 21-days of this collection of talks around "Where Olive Trees Weep": we.scienceandnonduality.com/o...
    Land for Two Peoples: Beyond Zionism to Peace and Justice
    With Dr. Gabor Maté and Ilan Pappé
    Join Dr. Gabor Maté and Israeli historian Ilan Pappé for a bold examination of the fundamental myths underlying Zionist ideology and an exploration of the path towards a just resolution to the Israel/Palestine conflict.
    This conversation will show how principles of universal human rights and international law point to their logical and ethical conclusions - a unitary, democratic state with equal rights for all people living in the shared lands between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea.
    Gabor and Ilan’s dialogue deconstruct obsolete dogmas while articulating a vision for Israelis and Palestinians to finally transcend the Nakba's colossal injustice through a truth-and-reconciliation process centered on decolonization and reparations.
    'Where Olive Trees Weep' is a poignant, heartbreaking film about the struggles and resilience of Palestinian people under Israeli occupation. It explores themes of loss, trauma, and the quest for justice. We follow, among others, Palestinian journalist and therapist Ashira Darwish, grassroots activist Ahed Tamimi, and Israeli journalist Amira Hass. It features Dr. Gabor Maté as he offers trauma-healing work to Palestinian women tortured in Israeli prisons.
    The program expands on the themes explored in the film and provides a larger historical and social context. Access to the program and the film is by donation.
    whereolivetreesweep.com/event
    Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Introduction
    00:03:14 - The Historical Narrative of Zionism
    00:06:37 - Denial of the existence of another people
    00:10:01 - Jewish Rejections of Zionism
    00:16:32 - The Consequences of Zionism for the Jewish people
    00:19:38 - Israeli Society and the Collapse of Colonist Structure
    00:22:45 - Witnessing the Unfolding Inhumanity in Palestine
    00:25:53 - Looking Towards a Better Future
    00:29:02 - The Optimist's Perspective

Komentáře • 82

  • @scienceandnonduality
    @scienceandnonduality  Před 3 dny +13

    Find all of our Palestine resources at whereolivetreesweep.com/resources/

  • @helendesilva9560
    @helendesilva9560 Před 3 dny +57

    Thank God for Dr. Gabor Mate’ and llan Pappe’ and people like them. Please continue this very important cause. Thank you.

  • @tracysauvage1351
    @tracysauvage1351 Před 3 dny +39

    Thanks for all your work...
    Your guests are always excellent.
    From Ireland 🇮🇪
    Love to, and real sorrow for 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @lenablochmusic
    @lenablochmusic Před 2 dny +12

    deep thanks for bringing Gabor and Ilan together. This is the force of justice and compassion we all need.

  • @maroonpilgrim
    @maroonpilgrim Před 3 dny +29

    Two of my favourite legends

  • @alexlimion2624
    @alexlimion2624 Před 3 dny +25

    Thank you for this discussion my good friends

  • @theresejammal1426
    @theresejammal1426 Před 3 dny +11

    You are my best friend love to meet you and all the active people like you ❤❤❤l was born in Palestinian 1945 l hope to meet with you one soon ❤❤❤ You keep up the great work thanks

  • @PeppermintPatties
    @PeppermintPatties Před 3 dny +16

    Wonderful convo. Thank you.
    Free Palestine.
    Free the world.
    🙏🇵🇸❤️

  • @Milda1231
    @Milda1231 Před 3 dny +27

    Thank you for so interesting and actual conversation! 🙏🇵🇸

  • @acethelin6803
    @acethelin6803 Před 3 dny +37

    Two of the great visionary and courageous voices of our time. Please share and spread their work and voices. The world needs to hear this.

  • @hayatraja7360
    @hayatraja7360 Před 3 dny +20

    Thank you very much for this thought provoking discussion 🇵🇸

  • @desfrancis2543
    @desfrancis2543 Před 2 dny +12

    Wow wow wow!!!!
    So happy I found this glimmer of hope in the face of my desperate despair. Long live PALESTINE

  • @daithibuachalla25
    @daithibuachalla25 Před 3 dny +13

    An excellent conversation between two magnificent intellects!! Another viewer from Ireland that is deeply appreciative to obtain such insights!❤️❤️❤️😁

  • @margaretpatricio1162
    @margaretpatricio1162 Před 2 dny +4

    Than you Dr. MAte & Ilan Pappe for you for your enlightment in this important historic lessons.

  • @rul4522
    @rul4522 Před 2 dny +5

    After being halfway it comes up to me that the thing that is hard to see is that if you watch what’s going on in this world I am more convinced that the only thing is Love and Kindness to ALL people. To be in the head/ mind one can UNDERSTAND, but….. in the end you’ll have to come to your heart. In the heart there is no judgment. Of course we as a people need both, heart and mind and to me in the end the heart matters. Furthermore Gabor and Ilan knów what they are talking about and i give thanks to Zaya and Mauritio.🙏🌈💓

  • @fashioncitymetaverse
    @fashioncitymetaverse Před 3 dny +9

    Thank you

  • @hayatraja7360
    @hayatraja7360 Před 3 dny +9

    Thanks gentlemen for the great work you do , this presentation was quite enlightening, please keep it up 🇵🇸

  • @evakir
    @evakir Před 3 dny +6

    Thank you for the opportunity!!!

  • @penelopeperez5349
    @penelopeperez5349 Před 2 dny +3

    beautiful conversation ! thanks Dr Gabor Mate and Illan Poppe, and of course thank you SAND for the amazing work you're doing !❤

  • @zetristan4525
    @zetristan4525 Před 3 dny +9

    What beautiful twins, Zaya and Maurizio!... Twin glasses, hair, beautiful tanned skin, amazing smiles

  • @thecheshirecat999
    @thecheshirecat999 Před 2 dny +2

    I enjoyed this interview so so much. Listening to Ilan and Gabor keeps me sane in the middle of the madness we are witnessing every day in Gaza. Thank you for your amazing work ❤

  • @midknight1968
    @midknight1968 Před 3 dny +9

    Grazie! ❤

  • @MyWits_End
    @MyWits_End Před 2 dny

    Oh! 🫶🫶🫶🫶 *big breath out* Such an incredibly powerful, hopeful conversation, speaking fundamental truth to power!
    As I sit here weeping under the gravity of the current reality in Palestine, these discussions are the crucial spark that we all need to fan and spread as far and wide and BRIGHT as we can and NEVER let those flames die out
    💔🙏💞🫶🥰
    Thank you Zaya and Maurizio 🫶
    Thank you Dr Gabor 🫶
    Thank you Ilan 🫶
    Thank you so much for all that you do and for inspiring that spark within all of us and arming our souls with the vital truth, in this urgent quest for peace and justice
    💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞
    Thank you from the very bottom of my heart
    💞💞💞💞💞💞💞💞

  • @davidmarston207
    @davidmarston207 Před 2 dny +1

    Two Legends, thank you for putting this together and thank the good lord for people for peace through love.

  • @MagdiNonDuality
    @MagdiNonDuality Před 2 dny +1

    Two great people. Humanitarians, historians, philosophers of great stature.

  • @user-du5jc7xz2y
    @user-du5jc7xz2y Před 2 dny +2

    Interesting to hear from a Israeli person.
    They are good people in all faiths , nice to hear their opinions.

  • @hayatraja7360
    @hayatraja7360 Před 3 dny +9

    Disclose-Divest 🇵🇸

  • @elizabethcabal1741
    @elizabethcabal1741 Před 2 dny +1

    Thank you so much! Great conversation

  • @francescoluciani2931
    @francescoluciani2931 Před 3 dny +6

    Grazie

  • @tarakadir9259
    @tarakadir9259 Před 2 dny +1

    Thank you 🙏🏻❤️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🍉🍉🍉

  • @shcc5589
    @shcc5589 Před 3 dny +7

    Thanks for a great and in lighting conversation as always. There was many links of reference of the topics Gabor and Ilan where talking about which have been shared in the chat during the conversation and I wonder if it's possible to share them here as well or in other way. Thank you 🙏

  • @workingtoseethelight8244

    Peace

  • @barbaralyons3978
    @barbaralyons3978 Před 2 dny

    I had the honor of attending a event years ago where I bought on of Pappe's many books and he autographed it for me, I have been a member of JVP for years and we studied and learned about Zionism and have opposed the Zionisn since then,

  • @humanitesfmira4181
    @humanitesfmira4181 Před 3 dny +2

    ❤️🙏❤️

  • @sheidajaffer
    @sheidajaffer Před dnem +1

    Interesting 🙏

  • @vanessac1965
    @vanessac1965 Před 17 hodinami

    As a Lebanese Muslim I want to tell you how much I love, respect and admire all of you for your conscience and bravery. ❤

  • @sgmarr
    @sgmarr Před 3 dny +5

    Believe it or not? I was introduced to this situation, by a friend from Cairo. He introduced me to a number of subjects! We over in North America hear nothing as a rule, except what is the Desired Government/News Naratives.
    He explained what the Relationship is like, with Israel, regarding Egypt Lands, etc.
    That got me Seeking articles from UN, about the Correction to Israel, with the Bombing, Killing, Land Seizures, Inhuman Treatment to Gaza. Then I dug into how Gaza Welcomed Israel and What they got from this, the Betrayal.
    Then I started watching videos around Zionism vs Israel. Etc.
    But! Few are Seeking.
    Overall, I believe completely, that the Leaders ARE Doing these Crimes. The Prople are Brainwashed TO Believe this Narrative.

    • @SaraSara-ti6ex
      @SaraSara-ti6ex Před 3 dny

      Same argument/ concept can be applied to Israelis. Only 4% of Israelis are against the war so over 90% of Israelis are cheerleading this genocide so if they are just as guilty Nazi war criminals as their government !

    • @SaraSara-ti6ex
      @SaraSara-ti6ex Před 3 dny +1

      How is the occupier is the victim here

  • @1961Bullet
    @1961Bullet Před dnem +1

    Wow. This dropped in my feed.

  • @xochitlleon1265
    @xochitlleon1265 Před 2 dny +1

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @UtaSchmelter
    @UtaSchmelter Před 2 dny +1

    🧡💙🙏

  • @barbaralyons3978
    @barbaralyons3978 Před 2 dny +2

    I think Norman Finkelstein has spoken out for years against Zionism and was attacked by those supporting Zionism. I have his latest book The Holocaust Industry. I think Mate and Pappe would support his views.

  • @dmurphy3202
    @dmurphy3202 Před 8 hodinami

    Two beautiful souls ❤

    • @dmurphy3202
      @dmurphy3202 Před 8 hodinami

      Actually make that four beautiful souls ❤

  • @shovanbijoy7136
    @shovanbijoy7136 Před 3 dny +1

    Hmmm...good title.

  • @billusher2265
    @billusher2265 Před 2 dny

    Can you host a discussion between Norman Finkelstein and Ilan Pappe? They seem to have opposite viewpoints in many areas.

  • @richardwitty3666
    @richardwitty3666 Před 2 dny

    The Jewish community in the us is BOTH more critical of Israel and more connected and united in much of same language of Palestinian solidarity, in our bodies.
    The us support for usrael is existential, not only a strategic power relationship.

  • @kathleankeesler1639
    @kathleankeesler1639 Před 2 dny

    Read The Racket, 2nd Edition by Matt Kennard

  • @TheFifileigh
    @TheFifileigh Před 2 dny

    Many people woke up when Aaron Bushnell sacrificed himself on video to Free Palestine

  • @estheracosta6510
    @estheracosta6510 Před 2 dny

    My question is, did God gave any other People on this Planet a land ?❤E

    • @MyWits_End
      @MyWits_End Před 2 dny

      @@estheracosta6510 Other questions which could be asked: Did that which you know to be God give the land to anyone? Or were we all given to the land? If we should try to claim it as our own, over and above any other beings, may the land vomit us up?

  • @shelaghcampbell7635
    @shelaghcampbell7635 Před 2 dny +1

    So glad to hear someone else comment on the dismal state of political representatives, never before in my lifetime have I been aware of such a lack of aptitude and talent which is so very important for good governing.

  • @publicdomain1103
    @publicdomain1103 Před 3 dny

    ShakeUp XR

  • @a1halber
    @a1halber Před 3 dny +1

    Can someone explain yo me what Ilan Pappe means by "secular Jews" ?

    • @DrumguyCiv
      @DrumguyCiv Před 3 dny +3

      Secular Jews identify as Jewish but they don’t practice all of the religious rituals associated with the religion. Another word for this would be non-observant Jews. I hope this helps you as I myself am not Jewish.

  • @kathleankeesler1639
    @kathleankeesler1639 Před 2 dny

    Encourage the youth to view Ryan Dawson film How Israel Stole the Atomic Bomb

  • @lorascelsi8102
    @lorascelsi8102 Před 3 dny +3

    There is alot of hope for Israel. Palestinians and Israeli citizens can work for a better country. Would the outcome have been different if radical Evangelical from America didn't intrude on Israel politics. If bB is arrested thats a new start. Tourist who visit the Holy Land want to see the historic stone architecture, history matters.

  • @SaraSara-ti6ex
    @SaraSara-ti6ex Před 3 dny +4

    Israel’s tactical are identical to that of Hitler’s days

  • @SaraSara-ti6ex
    @SaraSara-ti6ex Před 3 dny +2

    Free the hostages on both sides!!!

    • @MagdiNonDuality
      @MagdiNonDuality Před 2 dny +2

      End the oppressive occupation

    • @ileanahernandez1709
      @ileanahernandez1709 Před 2 dny +4

      When are the Israelis going to free the thousands of Palestinians held illegally in Israeli concentration camps inside Israel? Last count was 11,500 Palestinians held illegally in Israel!

    • @MagdiNonDuality
      @MagdiNonDuality Před 2 dny +1

      @@ileanahernandez1709
      Zionists don't seem to understand reason. Only force.
      That is why the resistance will never stop.

  • @harbinger6562
    @harbinger6562 Před 3 dny +1

    Hi Guys ❤️🇵🇸🇮🇱🦾😇👋🕊️