Going into Pyro, you're sort of 'forced' to compare it to Stanton, and you realize: What we've been playing for the last ten years is just the table scraps, fallen from the meal prep of what they're *really* cooking for us. It's going to be so hard waiting for dinner now.
@@danielc9967nah, in pyro everything and I mean EVERYTHING looks lived in. Used. You feel like parking a far distance out and working your way in is not a waste of time. In Stanton, everything looks empty and cookie cutter. Totally different experiences. You'll definitely play the game differently in Pyro. You'll be more cautious. You'll explore 10x more. Just in the station alone (Checkmate) I was finding alternative paths in air ducts and loot boxes. Explore the Galleria area. There's more to it then you first expect. You'll need to search. Not going to spoil Easter eggs. Sniper rifles and SMGs are going to be your best friends. Especially sniper rifles. Shadowfalls (i think is what it was called), my first time going there I got stuck in the middle of a huge gun fight between a carrack crew and some other crew lol 🤦🏼♂️ I just low crawled behind rocks and watched it unfold. Picked up the scraps after everyone died lol I heard gun shots here and there and started sneaking through a crashed caterpillar section and then tracers flew over my head so I hit the dirt and hid out. It's very immersive because there are no crime stats. I'm sure once reputation comes into the game with different factions, you won't want to shoot another faction member cause you'll risk losing rep and access.
I think the best way to describe the 2 systems is that Stanton is functional and made for a space sim and Pyro is made for an actual game. Just the difference in art direction alone is crazy. Go on to any planet or moon in Stanton and all of the outposts outside of the main cities feel so fake and just placed there for pure functionality, but all of Pyro's areas are made with intent and feel like actual towns from a real ass video game. I think the new bunkers they showed off at citcon are a good move in the right direction for updating Stanton but as it stands now Pyro is just so far ahead.
Watching this video I'm realizing that the main thing the game needs to be fun right now is some kind of super aggressive alien creature they can spawn in the caves, probably some kind of insect. These cavern settings with the eerie lighting could be put to great use if there was something actually in the shadows. If there was some "thing" we could go after in the PU they could also add these to the prison mines and instantly make the game like 100x more fun to play while they work on other things. Something that could hide underground or in the walls and ceilings then crawl out like the insect things in Starfield would be amazing.
Dude first thing I did when I got in was one of the cave missions. Had only one FS-9 mag on me and wasn't expecting much hostility. Those aggressively pushing AIs are impressive! I barely made it out alive :D
Thanks @SaltEMike for this summary view of your first Pyro session. Useful for those of us where the initial session times are a bit awkward. I managed to have a go for 30 mins of Pyro preview before work in the first session, but neither stayed up late enough or got up early enough to have a crack at the second window. There's at least tomorrow evening and Sat morning, my time
Mike, this is the most genuine and amazing Pyro playthrough I've seen so far! Lil bit of PvP, bit of PvE, some genuine exploration. AMAZING stuff, solid "real" organic gameplay simply cannot wait for Pyro to hit Live.
Re: only being able to EVA to the maintenance area. There is actually an elevator from the galleria, it's a non-obvious 1 jump puzzle to get to it. The elevator is in the area with tons of trash and a sort of path through the trash to a lower level (the elevator is up above this to the right).
So happy they put all guns on sale. I got them all in large numbers. But this will stop gun trade for extortion price for others who have less time ! I soooooo love it.
I would hope they either jack up the price on the rarer weapons in the shops or we can hope they just put all that there for the sake of allowing you to quickly gear up for the short time you have on the Pyro playground. I mean, look at quantum fuel values on ships right now.
@0riginalFIR3 I wasnt talking expense, I was talking quantity in the fuel tanks on your ships. To that point however, I bet QT fuel would and should be expensive due to rarity, especially in Pyro, especially considering the R&R gangs control a lot of it and unfairly jack up the price knowing full well the stranglehold they have on that market
@@0riginalFIR3 what @schlagzahne6741 said. It would add realism that this would indeed be a lawless system. Only place to find fuel would be the pirate heaven base or some small pockets of civilization, hidding from anyone due to piracy. Rarity = Higher Demand = Higher prices on average. Obviously, a balance needs to be there so the game is still playabe. But this is an opportunity for refueling and exploration vessels to shine (having capacity for large quantities of fuel).
I kind of like the solar flare thing, especially when you fly decoupled 😎 No comm Array is a good incentive to play multicrew ships and have escorts, had a blast last night with the org.
LETSGO. I was here for this and was a funny experience. I did feel like it was Red Stanton but there is definitely differences. It was hard surviving for how hostile things were but it was a fun challenge and immersive
I heard rumors that new water fx stuff was in, but couldn't check on Bloom between bugs and crashes (and a fat-finger incident with camera modes and key maps) any chance you guys were able to confirm or deny?
as long as they adjust the prices, i think that getting weapons and stuff back to stanton will be profitable for people who want to avoid going to pyro for them
Why does SC inventory icons aways bug out? I laterally quit the game when I tried it. Are they ever going to fix this? Edit: "Who want's some noodles?"
So Mike discovers a loot box with clean water, and is like same as Stanton, Copy Paste. I was like you forgot the toxic water you took up at the start of the stream. That would be a legendary find in Pyro. Still, this is Red Stanton as Mike explained, they need to dial in what makes Pyro dangerous.
what makes Pyro dangerous? Have you not seen the massive solar flares that will make you fall out of the sky? Or even kill you if you get out of your ship?
They seemed to have increased the TTK, I was did mission and took a lot of hits but didn't die. It feels better balanced now because in Stanton I would have been incapacitated after the first burst of bullets.
So this is my first time watching you. Your voice is lower than the rest and I think I didn't discover which of all the voiced was yours until 20min into the video lmao
ngl, I'm super tired of everything in 'immersive' games being foggy. The real world isn't so goddam foggy all the time. Well, outside of the UK and the Pacific Northwest, at least. The lights on the suit are almost counter productive because it lights up the fog so much.
@@myrchantkobold8268 The reason the fog exists in games like this is fog helps cover up LOD pop in and texture tiling on the ground. It has nothing to do with realism or atmospheric composition. So I'm a bit more forgiving there, but it still is not realistic. My complaint is that in areas where LOD's wouldn't be an issue, e.g. Caves, the fog is an aesthetic choice that art directors need to get over. It's stupid. It isn't realistic. It actively impedes gameplay. Also, Nitrogen is 70% of our atmosphere and it doesn't reflect light like that. Smoke is likewise not a valid excuse away from a source that is actively producing said smoke. This is an excellent example of overly permissive head cannon bullshit.
@@jackinthebox301 The planet is was hit by an asteroid, smoke and dust are normal. Pyro 3 has very little fog etc. If it's to save you from seeing distant assets why would that one allow such long visuals?
Pyro is not even worth playing in. In the current state of PVP. It would be wildly different if there was actual internal systems and armor with a recalculation on how damage is taken so our ships aren't just blowing up within seconds. A tier one ship can take out anything.
I love how the select few chosen to "test" included every content creator ever. Definitely can't be because they want to build hype over Pyro finally being playable. Granted Mike was always going to be chosen.
@@SaltEMikeYeah. I know you'd always be chosen. I saw on Twitch last night creators with 2 or 3 viewers were in Pyro, seemingly every stream had access. I meant those specifically.
It's cool to see a glimpse of Pyro but this whole thing is nothing more than a marketing ploy to ramp up the hype, let's be clear about that. CIG has to do A LOT more to get my trust again.
I understand Pyro is a big deal for a lot of players. That said, in all the hype of citizencon etc, Id be more excited to just having a working beta version where the focus is fixing all the bugs that have existed for years.
It's better to try to release features first then fix the problems instead of trying to fix all the problems then an update releases and everything breaks again
I am aware of the weird audio in the middle...I tried something new and I certainly suffered for it.
Liked it, it was good
im in Australia and i cant and wont be able to get into pyro for weeks maybe more
what exactly were you trying?
Going into Pyro, you're sort of 'forced' to compare it to Stanton, and you realize: What we've been playing for the last ten years is just the table scraps, fallen from the meal prep of what they're *really* cooking for us. It's going to be so hard waiting for dinner now.
i knew that 10 years ago the focus was on SQ42..
or its just the same as stanton with a new polish?
@@danielc9967Doubt it
@@danielc9967nah, in pyro everything and I mean EVERYTHING looks lived in. Used. You feel like parking a far distance out and working your way in is not a waste of time.
In Stanton, everything looks empty and cookie cutter. Totally different experiences. You'll definitely play the game differently in Pyro. You'll be more cautious. You'll explore 10x more. Just in the station alone (Checkmate) I was finding alternative paths in air ducts and loot boxes. Explore the Galleria area. There's more to it then you first expect. You'll need to search. Not going to spoil Easter eggs.
Sniper rifles and SMGs are going to be your best friends. Especially sniper rifles. Shadowfalls (i think is what it was called), my first time going there I got stuck in the middle of a huge gun fight between a carrack crew and some other crew lol 🤦🏼♂️ I just low crawled behind rocks and watched it unfold. Picked up the scraps after everyone died lol I heard gun shots here and there and started sneaking through a crashed caterpillar section and then tracers flew over my head so I hit the dirt and hid out. It's very immersive because there are no crime stats. I'm sure once reputation comes into the game with different factions, you won't want to shoot another faction member cause you'll risk losing rep and access.
I think the best way to describe the 2 systems is that Stanton is functional and made for a space sim and Pyro is made for an actual game. Just the difference in art direction alone is crazy. Go on to any planet or moon in Stanton and all of the outposts outside of the main cities feel so fake and just placed there for pure functionality, but all of Pyro's areas are made with intent and feel like actual towns from a real ass video game. I think the new bunkers they showed off at citcon are a good move in the right direction for updating Stanton but as it stands now Pyro is just so far ahead.
8:30 Where Mike's dreams of building an arms sales empire crumble at the sight of a 5k railgun. Lmao.
"Florida water" made me spit out my coffee. Thanks Mike. The barista wasn't happy at that one.
Watching this video I'm realizing that the main thing the game needs to be fun right now is some kind of super aggressive alien creature they can spawn in the caves, probably some kind of insect. These cavern settings with the eerie lighting could be put to great use if there was something actually in the shadows. If there was some "thing" we could go after in the PU they could also add these to the prison mines and instantly make the game like 100x more fun to play while they work on other things. Something that could hide underground or in the walls and ceilings then crawl out like the insect things in Starfield would be amazing.
Dude first thing I did when I got in was one of the cave missions. Had only one FS-9 mag on me and wasn't expecting much hostility. Those aggressively pushing AIs are impressive! I barely made it out alive :D
that guys yelling "who wants some noodles" is going to hunt me in my nightmares
Thanks @SaltEMike for this summary view of your first Pyro session. Useful for those of us where the initial session times are a bit awkward.
I managed to have a go for 30 mins of Pyro preview before work in the first session, but neither stayed up late enough or got up early enough to have a crack at the second window. There's at least tomorrow evening and Sat morning, my time
6:10 made me choke on my drink. Thank you. Pyro will now forever be Mexico for me.
Mike, this is the most genuine and amazing Pyro playthrough I've seen so far!
Lil bit of PvP, bit of PvE, some genuine exploration. AMAZING stuff, solid "real" organic gameplay simply cannot wait for Pyro to hit Live.
18:22 imagine doing 50vs50 orgs fight in that area. 1 org def, another atk. that would be sick.
Dawg, you just said "playing Star Citizen with a Mexico filter on" I, AM, DYING!
I was probably in the minority, but i was VERY surprised on how smooth the preview experience has been. Cant wait to play some more!
Re: only being able to EVA to the maintenance area. There is actually an elevator from the galleria, it's a non-obvious 1 jump puzzle to get to it. The elevator is in the area with tons of trash and a sort of path through the trash to a lower level (the elevator is up above this to the right).
The poor guy who came up with the distorted panels design watching SaltEMike and being called an asshole.
5:39 that's a cockroach jelly from Snowpiercer!!!
So happy they put all guns on sale. I got them all in large numbers.
But this will stop gun trade for extortion price for others who have less time !
I soooooo love it.
I would hope they either jack up the price on the rarer weapons in the shops or we can hope they just put all that there for the sake of allowing you to quickly gear up for the short time you have on the Pyro playground.
I mean, look at quantum fuel values on ships right now.
Ah, high fuel prices? Now this is immersion xD
Why would the fuel be expensive?
@0riginalFIR3 I wasnt talking expense, I was talking quantity in the fuel tanks on your ships.
To that point however, I bet QT fuel would and should be expensive due to rarity, especially in Pyro, especially considering the R&R gangs control a lot of it and unfairly jack up the price knowing full well the stranglehold they have on that market
@@0riginalFIR3 what @schlagzahne6741 said. It would add realism that this would indeed be a lawless system. Only place to find fuel would be the pirate heaven base or some small pockets of civilization, hidding from anyone due to piracy. Rarity = Higher Demand = Higher prices on average. Obviously, a balance needs to be there so the game is still playabe. But this is an opportunity for refueling and exploration vessels to shine (having capacity for large quantities of fuel).
Love the vid Mike! Pyro looks awesome, especially pyro 1. SC has always done a good job of making each place feel different instead of copy pasted
I kind of like the solar flare thing, especially when you fly decoupled 😎
No comm Array is a good incentive to play multicrew ships and have escorts, had a blast last night with the org.
Rat on a stick. Monty Python has invaded Star Citizen. 🤣
WHO WANTS SOME NOODLES
*eats space slug* ok mikes pyro stream is definitely the most entertaining yet 😂
LETSGO. I was here for this and was a funny experience. I did feel like it was Red Stanton but there is definitely differences. It was hard surviving for how hostile things were but it was a fun challenge and immersive
It's a play ground, this won't be what Pyro is like on 4.0
@@FortniteBlaster2 yeah anyone who's seen CitizenCon knows this
I heard rumors that new water fx stuff was in, but couldn't check on Bloom between bugs and crashes (and a fat-finger incident with camera modes and key maps) any chance you guys were able to confirm or deny?
I love your food enthusiasm! 😀
Was fun to watch. Thanks for sharing. o7
24:21 are clouds still static? do they move now? kinda curious
I've been playing way to much Cyberpunk 2077 and when I was on Checkmate, it had Dogtown vibes.
My first thought of Pyro was, Lysol! This place needs mountains of Lysol!
as long as they adjust the prices, i think that getting weapons and stuff back to stanton will be profitable for people who want to avoid going to pyro for them
Hungry 4 more 2 come... thx Mike and crew
04:30 sooo "buying good water in Stanton and bringing it to Pyro gameloop" confirmed? xD
I like this type of video highlights of game play
Its super awesome
btw Hypermetabolic ingame is bad - you get hungry faster
Hypometabolic - you get hungry slower
The self control at 23:34 was impressive
Great video. Not quite Voidude quality :) but great to see Pyro and you enjoying it!
That new helmet is sick!
Why does SC inventory icons aways bug out? I laterally quit the game when I tried it. Are they ever going to fix this?
Edit: "Who want's some noodles?"
They throw grenades now! -Star Wars, probably
that food omg i,m gonna die 😆
I'm most supersized by the lack of popping in LOD of the planet's details. QTing around looks incredibly seamless compared to Stanton planets.
Mike getting to 30k Subs around the time Pyro comes out
The new food options is fucking wild
WHO WANTS SOME NOODLES!
I assume the screens are fucked from constant emp blasts from the star?
I'm going to call a Freid Seanut with sauce a SaltEMike. =D
cant wait to do some bounty hunting in my Zeus M in Pyro
Glad to see the salt remain persistent even in pyro 😂
Only thing actually persistent in Star Citizen. . . SaltEMike being salty.
at 9:43 you said you needed to EVA over there there is also a elevator that goes there i took that back to the main area
"WHO WANTS SOME NOODLES"
Watching you eat that grub is hair raising.
Damn that looks like fun...
Hyper metabolic isn’t good unless you’re trying to lose weight. It essentially means you burn energy faster and have to eat more often.
They need to hav a few NPC run just to keep things fun
Good stuff!
Eating that slug looked so disgusting
Oh sweet. Just in time.
This look so great they should take Stanton offline, give us Pyro and bring Stanton up to the same level :)
First few minutes of the video I’ve decided I want to open a food mission from Stanton to pyro.. lol
Right?
I am legit loosing my mindd pyro is here kindaaaa
19:55 capacitors!
Yoh, enjoyed this^
Also, this vid also shows how deprived the SC community has been for over a decade for just the simplist things
Those cubes are definitely cockroaches from snowpiercer
The one thing I cant understand, is why is CIG depicting poor and "free" people as dirty
“Mexico filter on…” seriously!
Who wants some noodles
With a Mexico filter on?! 😂😂😂😂 Mike tryna get cancelled. 😂😅 You know this soft ass internet these days.
They really need to pay more for some extra noodle dialogues, it's getting under my skin
bro im craving some seanuts rn
Only Star Citizen could have some fanboy soy-pogging over NPCs throwing grenades.
I haven't been following to closely. When is Pyro going live?
We don't know yet, but it is available for a limited number of people, during specific hours.
Whenever static server meshing is going live.
So Mike discovers a loot box with clean water, and is like same as Stanton, Copy Paste. I was like you forgot the toxic water you took up at the start of the stream. That would be a legendary find in Pyro. Still, this is Red Stanton as Mike explained, they need to dial in what makes Pyro dangerous.
It's a play ground, this won't be what Pyro is like on 4.0
what makes Pyro dangerous? Have you not seen the massive solar flares that will make you fall out of the sky? Or even kill you if you get out of your ship?
Open PvP Russian DayZ servers not dangerous enough for you?
Fun fact, 'chuan' is Chinese for skewer.
i am sad i didn't get the invite but I'm low tier con so its ok ill live vicariously through you for now.
They seemed to have increased the TTK, I was did mission and took a lot of hits but didn't die. It feels better balanced now because in Stanton I would have been incapacitated after the first burst of bullets.
Plz sir, I can haz more jank?
Wow, the water requires an anti toxin jab ?
That big maggot thing (seanut) can we eat them raw lol ? Just like Klingon Gawk...
6:50 baldurs gate homage?
Yeah, who can forget the mindflayer invasion of 2731
So this is my first time watching you. Your voice is lower than the rest and I think I didn't discover which of all the voiced was yours until 20min into the video lmao
Thanks for the feedback
@@SaltEMike Glad you care about it. I watched it on tv speakers btw.
ngl, I'm super tired of everything in 'immersive' games being foggy. The real world isn't so goddam foggy all the time. Well, outside of the UK and the Pacific Northwest, at least.
The lights on the suit are almost counter productive because it lights up the fog so much.
Many of the areas it's smoke or Nitrogen.. visibility would not be great.
@@myrchantkobold8268 The reason the fog exists in games like this is fog helps cover up LOD pop in and texture tiling on the ground. It has nothing to do with realism or atmospheric composition. So I'm a bit more forgiving there, but it still is not realistic.
My complaint is that in areas where LOD's wouldn't be an issue, e.g. Caves, the fog is an aesthetic choice that art directors need to get over. It's stupid. It isn't realistic. It actively impedes gameplay.
Also, Nitrogen is 70% of our atmosphere and it doesn't reflect light like that. Smoke is likewise not a valid excuse away from a source that is actively producing said smoke. This is an excellent example of overly permissive head cannon bullshit.
@@jackinthebox301 The planet is was hit by an asteroid, smoke and dust are normal. Pyro 3 has very little fog etc. If it's to save you from seeing distant assets why would that one allow such long visuals?
@jackinthebox301 i though its for better depth perception 🤔
WHO WANTS SOME NOODLES!?
Did you like it?
who wants some noodles?
Citcon was so smooth and beautiful, then gameplay looks like sht
Framerates are still absolutely atrocious I see
WHO WANTS SOME NOODLES?
Who wants some noodles?
Who wants some nougats?
In the Grim dark of the far future.
Pyro is not even worth playing in. In the current state of PVP. It would be wildly different if there was actual internal systems and armor with a recalculation on how damage is taken so our ships aren't just blowing up within seconds. A tier one ship can take out anything.
Mexico filter? Wtf
Stable server's > pyro
New UI > Pyro
Come back in a few years and it might be functional.
mexico filter .... ?
Idk it’s some meme from instagram, I don’t think it’s offensive, if it was…not the intention
When people go to Mexico in movies and tv shows they put a reddish filter over everything. It’s a thing. Even breaking bad did it
I love how the select few chosen to "test" included every content creator ever. Definitely can't be because they want to build hype over Pyro finally being playable. Granted Mike was always going to be chosen.
I’m in Evo…
@@SaltEMikeYeah. I know you'd always be chosen. I saw on Twitch last night creators with 2 or 3 viewers were in Pyro, seemingly every stream had access. I meant those specifically.
@@CBadgermaybe because it's not that exclusive of a preview?
It's cool to see a glimpse of Pyro but this whole thing is nothing more than a marketing ploy to ramp up the hype, let's be clear about that.
CIG has to do A LOT more to get my trust again.
Maybe because anyone who got the goodie pack was able to get in? This isn't a conspiracy lol
Looks great, but as it was suspected, there is nothing substantial besides cool new art... As always.
I understand Pyro is a big deal for a lot of players. That said, in all the hype of citizencon etc, Id be more excited to just having a working beta version where the focus is fixing all the bugs that have existed for years.
It's better to try to release features first then fix the problems instead of trying to fix all the problems then an update releases and everything breaks again
Welcome to Alpha software development, bub. Bugs that aren't game breaking don't get fixed. Until SC is feature complete the bugs will persist.
That station seems almost copy pasted from Levsky.
I know Levsky was a while ago, but you definitely don't seem to know what Levsky looked like lol