Effects of Hammering and Lathing Cymbals - Sound Pure Gear Tip

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2018
  • In this edition of gear tips, sound pure drums specialist Paul Spencer demonstrates the impact of hammering and lathing on cymbals' sound.
    Timecode Links:
    Zildjian 21" A Series Sweet Ride Cymbal: 03:20
    Zildjian 21" K Custom Special Dry Ride Cymbal: 03:49
    This is the 4th part of our educational series on cymbals. Check out the other parts of our cymbal series:
    Part 1: Cast vs Sheet Cymbals: • Cast vs Sheet Cymbals:...
    Part 2: Cymbal Alloys 101: • Cymbal Alloys 101 - S...
    Part 3: Cymbal Anatomy 101: • Cymbal Anatomy 101 - S...
    Part 4: Effects of Hammering and Lathing Cymbals: • Effects of Hammering a...
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Komentáře • 44

  • @jimcav1013
    @jimcav1013 Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent video. Really simply explains what lathing and hammering is and does

  • @cemredemir2116
    @cemredemir2116 Před 5 lety +2

    amazing stuff, thats what really need to know :)

  • @J_Z666
    @J_Z666 Před 2 lety +1

    sweet ride all day perfect tone really bright when you 1st have it sounds better the longer u have it for just a great tone

  • @Beefnhammer
    @Beefnhammer Před 5 lety +14

    Great informative video.....but I can''t resist...1:44 "The peen size is relative large" lolololololol

  • @mikebarker9187
    @mikebarker9187 Před 5 lety +9

    An unlathed, unhammered raw cymbal demo would be nice.

    • @dave90mckeague
      @dave90mckeague Před 5 lety +1

      It wouldn't sound great. No hammering means no shape or tension. It wouldn't sound like a cymbal

    • @zenstat2
      @zenstat2 Před 5 lety +1

      Just listen to an Earth Ride. These are pressed into shape but unhammered and unlathed.
      For a full on demo of how the different steps change the sound I have given a link below to a Zildjian blank turned into a finished cymbal by Independent Cymbalsmith Craig Lauritsen. You can hear and see the changes it goes through.
      czcams.com/video/SaKAg6j0SDs/video.html

    • @mikebarker9187
      @mikebarker9187 Před 5 lety

      @@zenstat2 The Earth Ride is an impressive cymbal. Weighs a ton and has a special sound for special (dry) circumstances...... When doing a demo of this and that manufacturing technique, it would be good to use both unlathed plus unhamered samples as reference tones.

    • @willymccabe6602
      @willymccabe6602 Před rokem

      @@dave90mckeague um, not true. Zildjian Earth Ride isn't lathed OR hammered. It's dark and slightly dry, but it definitely sounds like a cymbal.

  • @drummer4hire12
    @drummer4hire12 Před 4 lety +5

    I hammered my 21" Sweet Ride(mine showed no signs of factory hammering)........I cannot believe how much better it sounds for my taste.......and looks killer!

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před 4 lety

      drummer4hire12 What type of hammer did you use?

    • @drummer4hire12
      @drummer4hire12 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Assimilator702 just a normal ball-pein hammer that I bought from horrible fright.....

    • @daviewavie112
      @daviewavie112 Před 3 lety

      drummer4hire12 did you just place the cymbal on a piece of wood or something and go at it?

    • @drummer4hire12
      @drummer4hire12 Před 3 lety

      @@daviewavie112 I rounded the corners on a 6x6 to help make better contact with the bow curvature. I actually got lucky because I really gave her the business.....but it sounds way different and better for my taste.

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před 3 lety

      David Stefanowicz The area right underneath the surface being hammered needs to be fully supported. Usually guys use a tree stump.

  • @aacycles
    @aacycles Před 3 lety

    what about the sound from an unlathed hammer cymbal?

  • @tieukhavu8832
    @tieukhavu8832 Před 3 lety +3

    Zildjian K Custom Special Dry Ride aka St Anger by Metallica

  • @dreamaera
    @dreamaera Před rokem

    3:46 4:18 - Release comparison

  • @DanTe-zn7kj
    @DanTe-zn7kj Před 3 lety

    How does "complex" sound like?

    • @bozhidarrachev9879
      @bozhidarrachev9879 Před 6 měsíci

      Complex sounding cymbals have more pronounced overtones and undertones and they sound kinda out of tune. The fundamental pitch isn't that pronounced.

  • @skatertrev7
    @skatertrev7 Před 3 lety +1

    'The peen size is relatively large". -NICE-

  • @mikekelly9851
    @mikekelly9851 Před 2 lety

    Why aren't you comparing K against another K OR A against another A?

  • @yeadontwearitout
    @yeadontwearitout Před 3 lety

    The second cymbal sounds like a gong from ancient china being played with drumsticks

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 Před 2 lety +1

    The only proper comparison would be to take two exact cymbals of same size, weight, and lathing style, ..and then one is hammered.

    • @Prof.CheeseDog
      @Prof.CheeseDog Před rokem +1

      Maybe for a comparison video between hammered and unhammered cymbals.
      But this is not a comparison video between hammered and unhammered cymbals.

  • @EarthtonesCymbals
    @EarthtonesCymbals Před rokem

    The K sound like a round piece of sheet metal with a hole in the middle.

  • @randallalvarado15
    @randallalvarado15 Před rokem

    Let's go canes

  • @TOMPDUDE
    @TOMPDUDE Před 4 lety +4

    The background music is distracting and a little loud for this type of video. Please consider a different mix for future videos.

  • @kylewalker9007
    @kylewalker9007 Před 3 lety

    He said PEEN SIZE

  • @ripoffscoots8159
    @ripoffscoots8159 Před 4 lety

    The dry ride kind of sounds like a trash can lid to me nice bell though.

  • @pjjp3862
    @pjjp3862 Před 4 lety +2

    the way he hit the cymbals for a sound test it's pretty obvious that he's not a drummer. just a guy who knows the characteristics of each cymbals

  • @davidarango786
    @davidarango786 Před 4 lety +2

    Zildjian machine hammers all the cymbals to keep cost low. But a K cost more than 500€, they are pure trash... Most overrated cymbal company out there

  • @leeknivek
    @leeknivek Před 4 lety

    "lathing" ....
    It's called turning if cutting or spinning if spun on a mold.

    • @JJ79_
      @JJ79_ Před 7 měsíci

      You should know better.