The Classic Cataclysm Beta Wasn't What I Expected...
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I mean a large portion of cataclysm are the revamped zones so just putting in chromie time sounds like a bad idea since it will only cause a more empty feeling world like how it is now in retail where you go through all your leveling and barely ever see people. I mean people already say dungeon finder killed the world chromie time would only further split the world since now people won't even be questing in the same places anymore
They already clarified that they are buffing the xp of tbc and wrath leveling so you can get faster to cataclysm zones. So it is at least something
it needs to be 150% or 200% honestly
I hit 73 on my hunter in cata beta, outlands sucked the life/fun right out of it and I just can't go on. It needs so serious help.
@@jskyg68I am levelling on wotlk classic to prepare my chars for cata and northrend is sucking the soul of me how slow it is… I get you 100%…
@@teodornaumov9138 This is literally the same reason my shaman is stuck in northrend on lvl 74. No one in their right mind would push against fast leveling.
Kind of hope that'll be something I can turn off. Its probably nostalgia but I miss cata leveling.
What makes leveling in Cataclysm fun are the remade zones
The braindead gameplay made it horrible for me, good to hear they fixed it
Indeed
I played the same private server as you, it was a lot easier than I remember levelling back in the day. I levelled a few characters in Cataclysm without looms, the beta experience is the correct one and the private servers are miles off.
guessing the private server you played on was whitemane. that server is notoriously buggy, all mobs have their white swing damage at like half of what they should be, and yes this includes dungeon and raid mobs/bosses. you were seeing tanks in dps gear on the first week of heroic dragon soul for a reason. meme server, don't take it seriously.
I think the optional Joyous Journeys buff is enough to speed up levelling. They can just leave it on 1-80 once cata comes out and possibly buff it to 100% from 50% like the sod buff.
The end game focus is exactly the problem with Wow as an RPG, it is not the end game that should be why you play the game, but the whole experience, in many ways, leveling is the game, if you are not in the world, so other players aren't as well, and you get the same problem again. You don't gear up along the way, you don't have any reason to do dungeons, other than quick XP, and the world exploration has simply no point, with "quick shortcut to max level" available.
RPGs are slow, and the endgame only meta, is just not good for this genre, that is among the many key reasons why the player base is so volatile these days.
Times change and I would argue most fo the people who play Classic or even retail are more likely to be in this game for years now. So IMO get rid of leveling... it is not an pleasent experience for years now even in retail. I do would like a slowdown of pacing so that you can get all the stuff but IMO it is time to get rid of leveling system and use a new idea how to gate character progression
@@hackintosh3899Well, that definitely has a part on all of this WoW problem, to me this does reflect on Blizz trying to make a "single player game" off of a fundamentally multiplayer game, i guess at some point recently they seem to have understood this, and are now making a few "possible" correction to the overall game, but i agree that a proper leveling experience, or fix, is never coming from Blizz. They are too deep into the single player morphing they are applying to the game.
@@mw2984 I don't think removing the leveling from wow would fix anything, it would definitely bring a whole heap of problems and holes to fix, and make a already volatile player base just melt away after a few months or even weeks.
WoW is even at this point, still an RPG game, although it has dug itself in a bunch of bloat and problems brought by the last bunch of end game focused expansions, there is a lot of thing tied to the leveling and the game even benefits from it. In WoW's case, it is just a lack of interest in molding the game into a different model than this "end game latest super hiper expac!!! get in or loose your chance" thing, it clearly has guys on suits all over this situation.
All of this considered, there is ways they could integrate the level up process more in the overall experience, and they have the brains to do this, just not the interest.
Meanwhile, I'm one of the people who enjoys playing on retail tourney realms just so I can play whatever class/spec at absolute max optimal gear and do as high of keys as possible, gearing is almost like leveling is to me nowadays, a boring grind idc about. I just wanna do the content at the highest level without waiting months to gear so I can finally start playing where I want be to begin with. In also that sense, Cata still feels very "classic" to a person like me (I have been playing this game with few breaks since 2007)
@@ChanJustWon I once engaged with a server of this kind, back on the LK era, and it was very cool, but i didn't last a week there, my enjoyment of my character also comes from the time i spent playing and gearing, roaming adventuring around with that character, if i instantly have top tier stuff to experience top tier stuff, it is a once and done thing, after that i never come back to that experience, there is no reason to do so, obviously our interests lie in different aspects of the same game, but you also can see my point, and i play since that same year as you did.
This is along the same reason i don't play moba games, or Battle Royale games, they don't have the appeal to me.
i wasn't able to get past level 5. i think i've leveled one too many times and just simply could not do it again
Feel that. Classic is a good game but I just can’t keep doing the same thing over and over
That's why I gave a break until Cataclysm release. Sometimes you got to stay away to keep things fresh.
You know taking a break from the game is good sometime, stop playing until Cata Pre-patch and you'll be good to go to level another character.
I would prefer that they allow us to choose between Outland and Northrend for 60 to 80. It is antithetical to the philosophy of cata levelling that you cannot always have the choice of 2 continents.
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To be fair they have to make leveling some what easier as the max level gets higher. Or else it would also be atrocious they just have to find a good balance. Maybe mobs are just as hard but, you get more XP from kills and quests etc.
TLDW - Put Chromie Time into Cata.
My main issue with the way levelling is done in modern wow currently, is the fact that they segregate everyone's dungeon selection. This means that unless you are doing BFA dungeons, good luck getting a group!
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My guess is the private realm tuned things to be much easier. Not surprising considering such realm have rates like 3x or 4x xp
At this point most people have whatever toon they want at max level, aside from the new races.
in classic WoW they give you a xp buff when there is a new expansion about to release
I wouldn't change the leveling in the cataclysm.
Tbh, I think making leveling harder but a bit quicker sounds good to me. On the other hand, having an 85 just by itself is a bit of a commitment because it's not done in just 1 hour, and I think that's good because Classic is just classic, and things are slower and more RPG-oriented. If you want it fast and shiny, go retail. If you do the Chromie timeline warp, it's only okay for me if there is no level-up scaling with the monsters to your level if you don't choose to do Chromie. What I wish is to keep the dungeon difficulties of Cata pre-nerfed! I remember that it was hard but so rewarding and fun, finally managing your cooldowns or your mana so you don't go oom or die and feel how much better you get over time.
It was hard back then... as with all classic content you will see that it is not really hard for nowadays even pre-nerfed... a lot of people seem to forget that nearly 15 years are between now and release of cata oO This game is already solved to the dot before even beta started :D as always we will have the Meta shit, the unbalancing stuff and the "exploits" of things that worked liek that back in the day.
they could just take what whitemane has, you lvl to 60 then can skip to 80
all i remember from cata was how terrible and broken the Alliance leveling exp was.
imho WoW is never going to be too late to play... it has so many GOOD catch up mechanics... unlike Lost Ark for example
The leveling Problem ist that you need to level every single class.... Should be possible to just boost them to max/nearly max once you have like 2 or 3 max level chars...
I think cata classic needs an option to skip from 60-80 and get given basic gear. That way, we don't have to level through wotlk and tbc again, but you keep all the content that cata was known for intact.
i feel like lvl 7-9 are the worst levels.
but once you unlock your talents.
It's pretty smooth sailing Atleast as a rogue player.
But do keep in mind that Also in Wrath unlike Beta we'll have access to heirlooms.
but yah honestly there's many things i wished would be changed in Cataclysm.
1. more frequent spawning of Rare Monsters.
2. Bring Discovers Delight in Wow Legacy(Classic)
3. Make ALL monsters in the world be like it's in Real Wow. You no longer need to have a TAG in order to be the sole one who gets experience and loot from that monster.
4. we are all old we don't wanna sit hours and hours grinding we all want to play the end game of cataclysm which is arenas and raids.
Private servers, mods for games. It's all the same, players making things things easier where they want. More often than not, it means making player more powerful than originally or making environment less hostile, one way or another. I've not player on cata private server but I have tried another. I have played vanilla wow on every expansion when they were released. I can assure you it's the private servers that were making things easy. And making game easier is not necessarily making it more fun.
whitemane did it best. Level 1-60 and then boost to 80. My reason for this is that even lore wise makes sense! The way blizzard make you lvl is to do all this new lvl involving even deathwing...And then thye send you BACK to TBC and Wrath (where logically these guys are DEAD) and then FORWARD in time again to DEATHWING! like fuck off lol lets us skip outland and northrend
I am against making the game easier at any stage. I like the process.
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@MetaGoblin I didn't know it could be different, neat.
If you can choose what xpac you can level in, then it's no longer Classic anymore.
Being overpowered is fun. You enjoying dying to a single or double pulled mob is something that YOU enjoy, not everyone else.
ye it gets skilled as well on multipulls and mob management etc y specially in pvp nothign worse then nerfng sod to the point where its just becomes era again and u can barely do a 2v1 as soon 1 backup come u screwed even though u had all cools momentum position opener etc thats just makes it bad pvp and solo skill down the drain u just waiting for u grp to do stuff all the time bascially but y cata has aoe and innstants alot mroe then classic in pvp so shoudl be fine i guess though i can also see the pveer perspective on wanting to have soem stuff that they wont 1 shot a good baalance has to be foudn i geuss bit of all ?
but ye in general the best games every1 is OP imo that last through ages where u use ur op moves to stop enemy op moves etc and make impact with your plays preblock 1 shots reads etc keep dodge that moment where your out of cools get stuck etc instead of just needing your team to even get 1 single cast of thats defo NOT the way to go imo to much qq ner allrdy messed up SOD enough so that it feels liek settling for somehtign meh that couldve been big and having blziz call it an experiment -_-...
i feel it was the qqers XD
@@leafyking2574 It is kinda aweful to read your text... sorry
@@mw2984 same same
my brain has problems seeing Cata as 'Classic' since the original content changed
Wow this is actually pretty exciting for me. I played on the same server and yeah.. leveling is such a joke that it's just not fun at all.
Whats the server? Doesnt say in description...
@@LittleLoz From Whitemane, there's an older server called Maelstrom and a new one releasing soon called Deathwing
@@fomoyolo4466 oh I see thank you
they need to keep leveling slow or it isnt classic
u do know theres a 300 % exp potion in mop right XD
i can get u level 1-85 in 1 hour on pvt server with x15 exp :P ( the duration of 1 these potions ) thats x 15 yes but ok u gotta keep in mind theres also new players and getting these in your groups with 1 hour played time isnt all that great either perhaps ? XD i allrdy saw blizz posting about level boost chars so u can just play cata which the old players prob know about etc so i dont know i more will be needed but maybe yes :P
but y vast majority prob knows in a in between expansion like classic cata for sure and u will prob faceroll the dung blindfolded anyway XD
I remember using it on live servers with the ruby sanctum exploit to get max level in a couple of hours 😂
You just called levelling in MoP and WoD atrocious.
That dislike ratio is spot on
Legacy WoW, not Classic WoW... Good distinction!
Also, if they did offer a Chromie-like option that favored quality over sheer time investment, I'd consider subbing. No way am I going through the old content yet again. Maybe it's time for them to add more server options than simply PvE/PvP.
Blizzard should have a Fresh-server mindset to cataclysm to force people to actually level in teh god damn world.
Fuk that.
Iv put literal months of playtime into multiple characters. From classic vanilla forward to now. Just because you want to eat a shit sandwitch, doesnt mean everyone wants to eat a shit sandwitch.
Iv already eaten 7 shit sandwitches since classic released.
@@fuzzelump3 People like you just destroy mmo and always buying boosting probably also gold ( just want everything in one day )and just raidlogging :P. World is empty look Wrath Classic is dead. Warmane is more alive you can meet people in world... . End Classic -TBC-Wotlk from Blizzard is disaster just bots, goldbuyers and pve gdkp andys. Cata should be fresh bcs lvling in changes zones is part this expansion. You just want join with endgame wotlk character with cap gold and clear raid in first week alot fun...
@Zajedwabisty124
Dude. Iv never touched a GDKP or bought gold. I play the game. I achievment hunt. I collect the mounts, pets, and random vanity things. I dont play the game for the "leveling journey" like classic vanilla. I already did that multiple times. I cleared cutting edge raiding for every exac release so far. I dont need to boost shit. I dont need to buy gold. There are plenty of players out there who just play the game. However, they want to play, and i keep my nose out of their choice on how they want to do that. But FORCING people to leave that shit behind to fulfill whine baby fair weather players. You all are just gonna quit in a few months anyway and be on forums crying about how nobody wanted to do old world content again and again and again.
Get a grip, dude.
There were certain things i wanted to achieve in classic, so I did. Forcing me to give it all up for crybabies that quit anyway is a bad take.
If they forced a reset for you limp little bitches, id dungeon grind to 85 just to spite you anyway. Then spend 200 on wow tokens just because (i hate the wow token) i know its bad for the game. But id make blizard think its a great idea.
If you hate the game so much, why do you play?
I agree. The world needs to be populated. Cata fresh all the way
Shill. Caya was the worst expansion ever next word stop the shill blizzard bot
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