I knew from the beginning people would not hate this one, because the fat crybabys who dont like cataclysm wont be playing it either so now you can hear the voices of the people that you know, actually play it and dont pretend to have played it
@@majortomsdmf1 It's a lot better than people gave it credit for. Much better than any Xpac that came after it. Most the people still saying it sucked genuinely can't even remember the first raid tier.
I’m currently levelling a worgen warrior and night elf mage. And you know what? This is the best gameplay experience I’ve had since discovering Hardcore (before official). I’m exploring zones, reading quests, finding references, not encountering griefing etc. I’m really looking forward to 80+ content!
Same for me! And I started as a giga casual whose endgame was heroic dungeons. Very excited to finally be able to do the raids when they're actually current content.
Idk why but I love cataclysm more than the previous expansions. The leveling is a perfect balance between retail and classic. The original map is still packed with people leveling giving the feeling of community
I dont know why but these calming cinematic videos of wow makes the game feel alot better, i wish i could take a moment to just appreciate the world of Azeroth 😢but you know that the sub timer is ticking, only got so much time.
You are paying that subscription TO EXPERIENCE THE GAME. It doesn't matter what you do... So long as you feel like you are getting your moneys worth. When I was a kid, and just started wow, I used to love taking flight paths across the entire continent because I could see all these places I've never been... and how badly I wanted to get there. How excited I was when we could fly in azeroth so I could explore the world I'd been playing in for years... I miss when it felt like that.
SoD brought me back in and now ironically it drove me to Cata, as I just wanted to play a complete game Cata is a blast, I'm having so much fun leveling in the "new" old world, the quest designs are so much more fun. classes are interesting and more well rounded, going to be leveling a bunch of alts to try out more classes. less talents/abilities is actually better feels cleaner
I've been playing a Dwarf Shaman and I have to say, I forgot how boring leveling in Cataclysm is. It's almost impossible to die. Mobs go down real fast and it seems like I can only get about half of the quests done in a zone before I move on to the next one because you level so fast. It feels more like a grind then a challenge to me.
I dont know dude. Im a new player lvl 54 and now people start taking you hostage in dungeons. You cant vote to kick them. So you always end up with a 30 min penalty for dungeons. Like why is this even posible? Is this somthing new or?
Historically, the hate for cata (at least for me and my friends) is this is the turning point, this is where we mark the real start of Retail. We now see the actual start as beginning at the end of WOTLK, but for sure this was the first retail expansion in our eyes. That said though, it was in a unique position of being not quite fully, modern retail experience and not wholly devoid of classic gameplay. It's this interesting mix of both in my opinion, but there is no doubt it's fun. Certain classes, like mine (Warlock) got some nice QOL adjustments that are just flat out better than classic versions. I try not to overthink these things. SOD Is fun, so I play it. Cata is fun so far, so I play it. Even looking forward to the War Within so I will play that.
If you shift “retail” with “different game philosophy” then you’re good to go. Unfortunately Cataclysm has absolutely nothing to do with the current version of wow, retail aka dragonflight. Its been some time.
@@Brejas03 yeah, obviously, I have never once not had a sub to this game bro, the entire time. Played every version. I didn't call it retail, I said it was the start of retail. It's widely accepted that was the turning point. Keep projecting though
I was young when wow vanilla and tbc came out although dont think I played it properly or don't remember and goddam I'm happy I played wow classic when it came out years later as an adult truly no lifed it for a year i think and raiding every week with multiple alt 60s was fun
Installing Cata classic rn because I've been feeling that old MMO itch after YEARS of being clean lol. I would just play retail, but I don't really want to pay for expansions and I hear classic WoW has more people playing and is generally just a more social game than retail, which I want, I want the MM part in MMORPG. Hope to see you guys in old(ish) Azeroth!
I've always had good memories of cata and when I heard majority of ppl hated it, I was so dumbfounded The only thing I can understand why ppl hated it was that compared to vanilla - wotlk, there was not rlly any new land to explore
Cata questing was amazing. All in all very liked that expansion especially theme-wise. The only flop is the last raid and also a lack of activities on max level, tho I say I like it too, cuz I don't have that much time. Also the fight with Deathwing was cool in concept but I mean.. meh. Development of the Horde story was so cool.
I still wont play this expansion since I do not like the weird state of being inbetween classic and modern wow. (might test MoP if it comes but after that no way.) Also increased complexity feels more like busywork than depth to the versatility of what you can do in the game to me.
i played wow for the first time a a year ago i played classic for a month and got my warrior to level 37 plus some other random clssed to various levels i recently decided to pick it uo again and decided to do cata instead of classic, definityly cool to see the diffrences !!
People who act like "vanilla is so good cus paladin has no kick, no taunt, ClasS iDenTIty" are delusional. Vanilla was great due to its world building, sense of progression, but the class gameplay was shit the entire time. Cataclysm is a step in the right direction since WoTLk was quite bland too, and so was TBC, in terms of gameplay. They are literally just Vanilla 2.0 and 3.0. Cata had some great revamps to classes and they feel great to play now. MoP is cata 2.0 in this regard, where every class is basically perfect in terms of gameplay. But Cata is great still, and end-game content is way better than any thus far.
I never understood the hate for Cta. It is the final expansion for the classic run of WoW, it should be held in higher regard. A revamped world that made questing make sense, mysteries finally solved after years in the game, a proper world ending villain, heroics actually being challenging, one of the best raids of all time, it had it all.
@jjamison470 Cata is. Cata still had 12 million players when it launched and classic only died when lfr and dragon soul were released. That was the end of classic.
Cata PvP is still at the top. With the introduction of specific class designs and mechanics, it really felt like you were making your own crafted build and playstyle. There were so many viable options to compete with. My biggest complaint about retail and all their proclaimed "build variety talent tree" shit, is that you still cant build anything like you could in Cata.
Its not the most popular but def best looked upon. And look back, it was the greatest expansion that still holds the “classic” spirit of raidlogging and do whatever you want.
It's not just about cata. It's about how WOW classic is no longer WOW classic. It's WOW retail lite. Season of Discovery, hardcore and as vanilla are the actual WOW classics.
Cata was never bad. It was just released at the end of WoW's time in the cultural zeitgeist. WoW was NEVER going to maintain the subscription peaks in WotLK because oftentimes people play one or maybe two expansions. WotLK saw a huge chunk of people start and stop in the same expansion because getting someone to keep playing the game after they have to pay full price again is hard. We hardcore players (even the hardcore casual players) forgot the experience that most people have with WoW and don't realize our years long and multi-expansion relationship with the game isn't shared. That said, as the fan base gets more niche it definitely feels like most people have been around for years.
I was initially excited for cata but after playing beta/prepatch a bit the spirit of classic is totally dead and it really just feels like watered down version of retail (minus the fortnite graphics)
I think your point about classes filling each others roles more and more, but also fleshing out those classes more is extremely contradictory. Yeah, Vanilla classes were pretty barren in terms of PvE rotations, but they didn't step into each others roles much in terms of class fantasy. You KNEW what a mage had to offer. You knew you'd love having a mage for free water and food. Then having them polymorph. And the TPs after. You KNEW an Ele shaman was gonna burst the shit out of things in dungeons, but be OOM and useless in raids. You knew a geared Warrior was gonna take 0 damage and give 0 fucks about your healers mana. You knew having a boomy druid was gonna be complete ass, and he might steal some of your drops But you played around that. You looked for the strengths of ones class, because you knew that despite not being the best at something, you knew that player was living their class fantasy. They felt UNIQUE. Youre mistaking a well balanced game/ expansion with it meaning everyone has the same strengths and weaknesses. You were having trouble picking a class, because you knew the choice really doesn't matter. Despite adding different rotations, more buttons, new toys, etc. It just feels like I'm missing so much, no matter what I play. 'Cata's not that bad! It's better than people remember! Instead of a content drought, we're getting a content flood!' Droughts and floods are both deadly and destructive. Keep letting Blizzard shove whatever they want down your throat though, and keep promoting it as better than people think it will be. Just because we polish shit, doesn't make it not shit.
Useless video, unless you're a fellow raid-brain. Completely misses that people disliked Cataclysm because of the marked changes to the leveling and quest completion experience, which had actually been the focus of the game until then.
Hi! I'm not a veteran player but I had fun with SoD in phase 1 and I was thinking about starting Cataclysm, could you elaborate on what changed in terms of leveling and quests? How is it different from the SoD experience?
I'm glad the people who like this expansion are able to experience it but It's beyond frustrating that they took resources away from the SoD team to work on it. Taking from something new with potentially unlimited possibilities to work on something that had It's chance 13 years ago makes no sense. Now, both versions are suffering because neither are getting the full attention they need. I'm giving Cata a hard pass, everything after Wrath is Retail lite.
Ok, let me play the devil's advocate and list things i didn't like in cataclysm (for disclaimer, i am not a cataclysm hater, in fact i did love the expansion, but nobody's perfect) - leveling was made way too easy. Our character felt way too powerful at low level, easily taking on multiple mob at the time. It was also the expansion blizzard got rid of all elite and group quest. - Tier 12 was short in boss. Firelands only had 7 bosses. Plus, this is me but i didn't like the firelands landscape, lots of rock and lava, kinda like molten core 2.0. Boss mechanics were very imaginative and fun though. - Tier 13 was bad. It's not that it was too long, it was a bad raid, period. Raid felt disjointed, had to take flight to multiple bosses, and a teleport at time. I prefer to progress in a raid organicly, i don't like teleport in general. Re use of a lot of location from wrath (dragon blight, coldara) and the last 2 encounters, spine and madness, were disappointing. repetitive and you don't even fight the boss, only globules and tentacles. - Hydrid specs were no longer possible, you had to spec 31 points in one tree before specing into another tree.
I just dislike the realm unbalance which makes open world pvp impossible. It is a problem since wrath as they offered realm transfers and every player was switching like a sheep to the realm with the most players of its fraction. And the quest design changes alot so it is not classic anymore, which is okay if you like it that way. But Questing gets way to easy for my taste :s in the real Classic you had to be carefull how you pull mobs
No this classic is going to hell quick. Its more like retail every day. if i wanted to do keys right where everyone hates each other I would go back to retail.
You literally don't need any of that to clear the first raid unless you're racing for world second (since,yknow, world first happened a long time ago and you have guides now)
It's insane how much youtubers are glazing Blizzard, they could have dropped Shadowlands classic and you people would still hype it to oblivion. Clown world
@@MetaGoblin It is irrelevant whether you are or not, at worse you're a blizzard andy and at best you're riding the hype train to farm CZcams views. Either way you're part of the problem
@@KingCofi I know man people are so immoral for having ambition and wanting to make a living fuck those guys. Everyone should just live in a mud hit and eat beans.
@Dotblooded dude its so buggy i cant summon my goblin turbo trike mount because i recieve an error message sayin Requires Horde... im 51 goblin arms warrior
It's just a worse version of Retail. There's really no functional difference between the two versions, except retail has Pet Battles, M+ and additional Raid difficulty.
If you like PVP no. Resto Shaman becomes one of the only viable healers in some cases, because: 1, it can outheal and survive the stupid Cata burst and 2, other healers are really weak in Cata generally (for PVP). In arena loads of specs that was viable on WoTLK become non-viable or unfun. There's 2-3 comps that become extremely OP in 3's (other things aren't worth playing) and 2's becomes a 1shot memefest with 2H FDK and Rog/x. BGs, the same issue exists and then gets amplified by gear at the end, when every DoT spec becomes absolutely absurd. You also STILL had to do irrelevant content (PVE) to get gear, while gearing for PVP as well.
Idk, I'd love to play Cata, but I HATE the dungeon finder feature. If it was just a automatch feature which helps you get groups exclusively I'd probably love the feature, but because it offers rewards and teleports you I can't stand it.
Cata is literally an improved version of wrath. Gameplay is fun, every class feels good, PvP is amazing. People just remember dragon soul content drought and start hating on whole xpack
Cata was my favorite time in wow. In my opinion it felt like Wrath+. I’m glad people are liking it like I did.
I knew from the beginning people would not hate this one, because the fat crybabys who dont like cataclysm wont be playing it either so now you can hear the voices of the people that you know, actually play it and dont pretend to have played it
for some reason i am enjoying cata more then any other previous expansion.
The beta?
That's cause cata was the best. I've been saying it for years. People just don't know
Cuz it’s more retail.
@@majortomsdmf1 It's a lot better than people gave it credit for. Much better than any Xpac that came after it.
Most the people still saying it sucked genuinely can't even remember the first raid tier.
Same. Looks like we didn’t play at max level when it was realeassed
I’m currently levelling a worgen warrior and night elf mage. And you know what? This is the best gameplay experience I’ve had since discovering Hardcore (before official). I’m exploring zones, reading quests, finding references, not encountering griefing etc.
I’m really looking forward to 80+ content!
you should read on dragongay too
Are you still enjoying it? Where are things now? Just curious as I’ve just recently come back to play!
sorry to hear about the car trouble, I appreciate you and these videos. Thank you!
started playing wow back in old cata. for sure i'll give it a try.
Same for me! And I started as a giga casual whose endgame was heroic dungeons. Very excited to finally be able to do the raids when they're actually current content.
gotta love these streamers and youtubers . gonna hype any garbage blizzard shits out . oh well .
Idk why but I love cataclysm more than the previous expansions. The leveling is a perfect balance between retail and classic. The original map is still packed with people leveling giving the feeling of community
I dont know why but these calming cinematic videos of wow makes the game feel alot better, i wish i could take a moment to just appreciate the world of Azeroth 😢but you know that the sub timer is ticking, only got so much time.
You are paying that subscription TO EXPERIENCE THE GAME. It doesn't matter what you do... So long as you feel like you are getting your moneys worth.
When I was a kid, and just started wow, I used to love taking flight paths across the entire continent because I could see all these places I've never been... and how badly I wanted to get there. How excited I was when we could fly in azeroth so I could explore the world I'd been playing in for years... I miss when it felt like that.
No. Staying in Era. Blizz should wake up and open TBC and Wrath servers. And allow classic era cloning again.
Agreed. I would love to play through Vania again and then move to tbc and then into wrath.
SoD brought me back in and now ironically it drove me to Cata, as I just wanted to play a complete game
Cata is a blast, I'm having so much fun leveling in the "new" old world, the quest designs are so much more fun. classes are interesting and more well rounded, going to be leveling a bunch of alts to try out more classes. less talents/abilities is actually better feels cleaner
For Halls of Origination, the skeleton camel boss is actually like the 2nd boss, it ends with Rahj at the top
I've been playing a Dwarf Shaman and I have to say, I forgot how boring leveling in Cataclysm is. It's almost impossible to die. Mobs go down real fast and it seems like I can only get about half of the quests done in a zone before I move on to the next one because you level so fast. It feels more like a grind then a challenge to me.
Play classic for a leveling challenge
as a veteran wow player who played since tbc OG, i agree 100% with all your points in this video
I dont know dude. Im a new player lvl 54 and now people start taking you hostage in dungeons. You cant vote to kick them. So you always end up with a 30 min penalty for dungeons. Like why is this even posible? Is this somthing new or?
Historically, the hate for cata (at least for me and my friends) is this is the turning point, this is where we mark the real start of Retail. We now see the actual start as beginning at the end of WOTLK, but for sure this was the first retail expansion in our eyes. That said though, it was in a unique position of being not quite fully, modern retail experience and not wholly devoid of classic gameplay. It's this interesting mix of both in my opinion, but there is no doubt it's fun. Certain classes, like mine (Warlock) got some nice QOL adjustments that are just flat out better than classic versions. I try not to overthink these things. SOD Is fun, so I play it. Cata is fun so far, so I play it. Even looking forward to the War Within so I will play that.
If you shift “retail” with “different game philosophy” then you’re good to go. Unfortunately Cataclysm has absolutely nothing to do with the current version of wow, retail aka dragonflight. Its been some time.
Anytime you see people call cata retail its obvious they haven't played actual retail in many years
@@Brejas03 yeah, obviously, I have never once not had a sub to this game bro, the entire time. Played every version. I didn't call it retail, I said it was the start of retail. It's widely accepted that was the turning point. Keep projecting though
I was young when wow vanilla and tbc came out although dont think I played it properly or don't remember and goddam I'm happy I played wow classic when it came out years later as an adult truly no lifed it for a year i think and raiding every week with multiple alt 60s was fun
Installing Cata classic rn because I've been feeling that old MMO itch after YEARS of being clean lol. I would just play retail, but I don't really want to pay for expansions and I hear classic WoW has more people playing and is generally just a more social game than retail, which I want, I want the MM part in MMORPG.
Hope to see you guys in old(ish) Azeroth!
I believe the answer is yes. Depending on if you're over 30 or not.
I have never played cata first time and i am 36
Once time was enough for me I tried I just couldn't do it
Yes let's play an inferior version of a game
@@snakebebopeven tho the story was interesting
i want to, but nobody wants to play with me
I've always had good memories of cata and when I heard majority of ppl hated it, I was so dumbfounded
The only thing I can understand why ppl hated it was that compared to vanilla - wotlk, there was not rlly any new land to explore
Cata questing was amazing. All in all very liked that expansion especially theme-wise.
The only flop is the last raid and also a lack of activities on max level, tho I say I like it too, cuz I don't have that much time.
Also the fight with Deathwing was cool in concept but I mean.. meh. Development of the Horde story was so cool.
Some classes are so fun and enjoyable with the overworked specs. With the content coming so fast there is always someting to do.
Should be ok as long as the buggs are fixed
Cata was my favorite xpac, people are just mad about how dragon soul ended the expansion and addition of LFR.
Classic was created because of cataclysm, cataclysm destroyed the world that was so loved in vanilla. MoP is even worse.
Please do a video on all the BoE epics in classic wow. I think that will be a fun video
Welp I guess imma level my priest and kill some fuckin dragons on Whietmane.
same realm i’m on lol
I still wont play this expansion since I do not like the weird state of being inbetween classic and modern wow. (might test MoP if it comes but after that no way.) Also increased complexity feels more like busywork than depth to the versatility of what you can do in the game to me.
i played wow for the first time a a year ago
i played classic for a month and got my warrior to level 37 plus some other random clssed to various levels
i recently decided to pick it uo again and decided to do cata instead of classic, definityly cool to see the diffrences !!
People who act like "vanilla is so good cus paladin has no kick, no taunt, ClasS iDenTIty" are delusional. Vanilla was great due to its world building, sense of progression, but the class gameplay was shit the entire time. Cataclysm is a step in the right direction since WoTLk was quite bland too, and so was TBC, in terms of gameplay. They are literally just Vanilla 2.0 and 3.0. Cata had some great revamps to classes and they feel great to play now. MoP is cata 2.0 in this regard, where every class is basically perfect in terms of gameplay. But Cata is great still, and end-game content is way better than any thus far.
True and based
True 👍
Yeup and the reason why there won’t be another “classic” after Cata
You’re delusional
I actually love both Cata and even more MoP later :)
I never understood the hate for Cta. It is the final expansion for the classic run of WoW, it should be held in higher regard. A revamped world that made questing make sense, mysteries finally solved after years in the game, a proper world ending villain, heroics actually being challenging, one of the best raids of all time, it had it all.
@jjamison470 Cata is. Cata still had 12 million players when it launched and classic only died when lfr and dragon soul were released. That was the end of classic.
I'd rather just play retail at this point
Cata is going to be more popular than the haters expect. SoD if about to see a big drop off after launch.
i dont play it. i want to play retail but as a newcomer in retail i dont know what class i should pick. and there is so much shit to learn.
This was beginning at the end for me. But this was my first expansion without my friends. One last ride.
I fell off in bc. Then came back a bit for WotLK. Im playing cataclysm and i think its my favorite play style for classes in wow classic.
Cata PvP is still at the top. With the introduction of specific class designs and mechanics, it really felt like you were making your own crafted build and playstyle. There were so many viable options to compete with. My biggest complaint about retail and all their proclaimed "build variety talent tree" shit, is that you still cant build anything like you could in Cata.
Mop is underrated? isnt it like one of the most popular expansions of all time?
No. It was only popular because not everyone had left yet. LK was the pinnacle. Cata started the mass sub exodus.
Its not the most popular but def best looked upon. And look back, it was the greatest expansion that still holds the “classic” spirit of raidlogging and do whatever you want.
@@PS-cq8qr Definitely is super popular. An entire discord dedicated to waiting for MoP Classic. I loved MoP PvP and Raids. Hated the Panda shit tho.
@sirnicholibraden86 just because it has a discord doesn't mean its popular 🤣🤣🤣
It's not just about cata. It's about how WOW classic is no longer WOW classic. It's WOW retail lite. Season of Discovery, hardcore and as vanilla are the actual WOW classics.
Cata was never bad. It was just released at the end of WoW's time in the cultural zeitgeist. WoW was NEVER going to maintain the subscription peaks in WotLK because oftentimes people play one or maybe two expansions. WotLK saw a huge chunk of people start and stop in the same expansion because getting someone to keep playing the game after they have to pay full price again is hard. We hardcore players (even the hardcore casual players) forgot the experience that most people have with WoW and don't realize our years long and multi-expansion relationship with the game isn't shared.
That said, as the fan base gets more niche it definitely feels like most people have been around for years.
I was initially excited for cata but after playing beta/prepatch a bit the spirit of classic is totally dead and it really just feels like watered down version of retail (minus the fortnite graphics)
Yeah, the addition of the shop was the cherry on top of the poop cake
No because they still haven't fix professions being set to 0 after using the boost. Among other bugs still needing to be fix
I think your point about classes filling each others roles more and more, but also fleshing out those classes more is extremely contradictory.
Yeah, Vanilla classes were pretty barren in terms of PvE rotations, but they didn't step into each others roles much in terms of class fantasy.
You KNEW what a mage had to offer. You knew you'd love having a mage for free water and food. Then having them polymorph. And the TPs after.
You KNEW an Ele shaman was gonna burst the shit out of things in dungeons, but be OOM and useless in raids.
You knew a geared Warrior was gonna take 0 damage and give 0 fucks about your healers mana.
You knew having a boomy druid was gonna be complete ass, and he might steal some of your drops
But you played around that. You looked for the strengths of ones class, because you knew that despite not being the best at something, you knew that player was living their class fantasy. They felt UNIQUE.
Youre mistaking a well balanced game/ expansion with it meaning everyone has the same strengths and weaknesses. You were having trouble picking a class, because you knew the choice really doesn't matter. Despite adding different rotations, more buttons, new toys, etc. It just feels like I'm missing so much, no matter what I play.
'Cata's not that bad! It's better than people remember! Instead of a content drought, we're getting a content flood!'
Droughts and floods are both deadly and destructive. Keep letting Blizzard shove whatever they want down your throat though, and keep promoting it as better than people think it will be. Just because we polish shit, doesn't make it not shit.
I am going to wait for Dragon Flight Classic
They need to just have one server for each expac
No
How about no?
Cata had many ups and downs but it was a good expansion, overall!
All that sounds alright, there's just one little thingy that annoys me about Cata; I would barely call it an mmo
one year from now: Was MoP cooler than people say?!
I love all your content.
Useless video, unless you're a fellow raid-brain. Completely misses that people disliked Cataclysm because of the marked changes to the leveling and quest completion experience, which had actually been the focus of the game until then.
Hi! I'm not a veteran player but I had fun with SoD in phase 1 and I was thinking about starting Cataclysm, could you elaborate on what changed in terms of leveling and quests? How is it different from the SoD experience?
I'm glad the people who like this expansion are able to experience it but It's beyond frustrating that they took resources away from the SoD team to work on it. Taking from something new with potentially unlimited possibilities to work on something that had It's chance 13 years ago makes no sense. Now, both versions are suffering because neither are getting the full attention they need. I'm giving Cata a hard pass, everything after Wrath is Retail lite.
Still the same question bugs. Still the weird story lines…
It’s good. I dig
Ok, let me play the devil's advocate and list things i didn't like in cataclysm (for disclaimer, i am not a cataclysm hater, in fact i did love the expansion, but nobody's perfect)
- leveling was made way too easy. Our character felt way too powerful at low level, easily taking on multiple mob at the time. It was also the expansion blizzard got rid of all elite and group quest.
- Tier 12 was short in boss. Firelands only had 7 bosses. Plus, this is me but i didn't like the firelands landscape, lots of rock and lava, kinda like molten core 2.0. Boss mechanics were very imaginative and fun though.
- Tier 13 was bad. It's not that it was too long, it was a bad raid, period. Raid felt disjointed, had to take flight to multiple bosses, and a teleport at time. I prefer to progress in a raid organicly, i don't like teleport in general. Re use of a lot of location from wrath (dragon blight, coldara) and the last 2 encounters, spine and madness, were disappointing. repetitive and you don't even fight the boss, only globules and tentacles.
- Hydrid specs were no longer possible, you had to spec 31 points in one tree before specing into another tree.
I just dislike the realm unbalance which makes open world pvp impossible. It is a problem since wrath as they offered realm transfers and every player was switching like a sheep to the realm with the most players of its fraction.
And the quest design changes alot so it is not classic anymore, which is okay if you like it that way. But Questing gets way to easy for my taste :s in the real Classic you had to be carefull how you pull mobs
very well made video.
Cata was always better than wrath. Just ruined by the last patch and how we fought death wing. Dungeons, raids, class balance and feel was superior
No.
Im still going to pass on Cata wake me up when I can play Legion once more
No this classic is going to hell quick. Its more like retail every day. if i wanted to do keys right where everyone hates each other I would go back to retail.
Same bs. Harder dungeons that the dungon finder made it impossible to complete. Easier access to bad players made people hate it.
Is that rested xp guild free ?
nope
There's versions that are free, paid add-ons are technically against blizzards ToS apparently lol
good advertisement
I won't stand for that pandaria slander lol
nooo hope for Classic Plus somewhen
D’aww, look Ma! There’s a shilling goin’ on ‘roun ‘ere!
Bro got paid hard by blizz
solo/leveling was fun, Pugging at end game made me uninstall. Zoom zoom mentality is cringe, no thanks.
The paladin changes kill it for me. My main feels like trash now. I either have to find a new main or play a class that just feels wrong
WoW players are the most confusing people
Yeah, fuck no. It aint classic, its retail.
Is there any different in cat classic then a private server cata?
🎉
Archeology Pre Bis is a Problem.
You literally don't need any of that to clear the first raid unless you're racing for world second (since,yknow, world first happened a long time ago and you have guides now)
you don't need it. the pre-bis boa's won't do anything to hinder your clear of heroic raids. if you think so its just a skill issue
this is cataclysm propaganda and I'M ALL FOR IT, BEST EXPANSION
cata doa
A big fat 👎 👎 NO
Hard pass
Not classic anymore. This is now retail. Everything completely changed at this point. Most not in a good way
Parsing culture = shit game, waste of time.
"Cata has more diverse classes" meanwhile every class has everything
It's insane how much youtubers are glazing Blizzard, they could have dropped Shadowlands classic and you people would still hype it to oblivion. Clown world
Looking at my video history do you really think I'm a blizzard coomer? Most clown comment this year 😂
@@MetaGoblin It is irrelevant whether you are or not, at worse you're a blizzard andy and at best you're riding the hype train to farm CZcams views. Either way you're part of the problem
You really woke up and decided to act like this. These spaces are better without weirdos like you
@@KingCofi ok doomer
@@KingCofi I know man people are so immoral for having ambition and wanting to make a living fuck those guys. Everyone should just live in a mud hit and eat beans.
fuck no cata was the end of wow
The problem for me in world of warcraft cata is : the farming daily archeology, fishing,.... it's bad experience
Still better than raid prep in vanilla-Classic lmao.
Its not mandatory. Actually I dont remember any mandatory activity in Cata, except weekly cap of pve and pvp points.
Hard pass. Wow ended when lk died. Wotlk was shit too tho. Vanilla bis, tbc is decent.
skill issue
Just go to retail instead of playing cata at this point lol
same
you should never
No, it's broken and full of bugs. its should be free
Sounds like someone who hasn’t played and just listens to trolls on Reddit, game is free if you play it, buy a token with gold
Has a few bugs but it’s only pre patch. Still a ton of fun and definitely not broken.
@Dotblooded dude its so buggy i cant summon my goblin turbo trike mount because i recieve an error message sayin Requires Horde... im 51 goblin arms warrior
U got complete game, released in 2010. Why its broken in 2024? Why no class changes, there are so many "C" Tier specs (pve and pvp).
The answer is... NO unless you like lvling Ults, go play retail at this point
It's just a worse version of Retail. There's really no functional difference between the two versions, except retail has Pet Battles, M+ and additional Raid difficulty.
Which are complete shite features and is many of the reasons I hate retail. Too many THINGS. Nothing is special.
@@sirnicholibraden86 The game truly became worse over time, in a lot of ways...
Yeah I get having TBC and wrath classic, but Cats is way closer to retail than classic.
Definitely not 😂
No and just play retail
single player experience
If you like PVP no.
Resto Shaman becomes one of the only viable healers in some cases, because: 1, it can outheal and survive the stupid Cata burst and 2, other healers are really weak in Cata generally (for PVP).
In arena loads of specs that was viable on WoTLK become non-viable or unfun. There's 2-3 comps that become extremely OP in 3's (other things aren't worth playing) and 2's becomes a 1shot memefest with 2H FDK and Rog/x.
BGs, the same issue exists and then gets amplified by gear at the end, when every DoT spec becomes absolutely absurd.
You also STILL had to do irrelevant content (PVE) to get gear, while gearing for PVP as well.
Lol ....
@@no0bbbb Take a rest. That neuron firing must have tired you out.
Nah retail is the only good version
Idk, I'd love to play Cata, but I HATE the dungeon finder feature. If it was just a automatch feature which helps you get groups exclusively I'd probably love the feature, but because it offers rewards and teleports you I can't stand it.
@Joe-no7gs it also saves us time that can be spent on other stuff
Staying in Classic Era, and not SoD.
Cata is literally an improved version of wrath. Gameplay is fun, every class feels good, PvP is amazing. People just remember dragon soul content drought and start hating on whole xpack