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4 Things we can learn from Finnish bodybuilders

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  • čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
  • New study: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36645...
    1. Metabolic damage is a myth.
    More info: mennohenselmans.com/metabolic...
    2. It’s incredibly difficult to get below 5% (men) or 12% BF (women)
    More info: • The scientific truth a...
    3. It’s possible to build muscle in energy deficit.
    More info: mennohenselmans.com/gain-musc...
    4. Women respond just as well to dieting and training as men.
    More info:
    mennohenselmans.com/natural-m...
    mennohenselmans.com/ffmi-calc...
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:15 1. Metabolic damage is a myth
    03:25 2. It’s incredibly difficult to get below 5% (men) or 12% BF (women)
    04:12 3. It’s possible to build muscle in energy deficit.
    05:50 4. Women respond just as well to dieting and training as men.
    #mennohenselmans #bodybuilding #exercisescience #personaltrainer #personaltrainers #personaltraining #personaltrainerlife #personaltraineronline

Komentáře • 46

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi Před rokem +14

    So fun to see 5 finnish names and Captain America as the authors of the paper. Also your Malabar chestnut tree looks epic.

  • @Superslotter1970
    @Superslotter1970 Před 8 měsíci

    Another great video! Thank you Menno!

  • @craigwilson3170
    @craigwilson3170 Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing - very interesting.

  • @cecilanderson7298
    @cecilanderson7298 Před rokem +2

    Thank you.

  • @pippobaudo4418
    @pippobaudo4418 Před rokem +2

    Simply the best

  • @travisretriever7473
    @travisretriever7473 Před 8 měsíci

    Off topic, and meant in the best way possible, but I legit thought this video was going to be a vikingcore metal music video or viking AI art showcase until I read the title and saw it was from you.
    That thumbnail slaps so hard.

  • @achevres
    @achevres Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would emphasize that the metabolic findings were in bodybuilders that even in a cut are getting a good amount of protein and that have a higher percentage lean muscle to start with. Average person (not me or most of your viewers) with much less muscle mass to start with and following the typical lower protein weight-loss diet the results would probably be different.

  • @UltraLifeU
    @UltraLifeU Před rokem +1

    Great video! The reality of the myth of metabolic damage is well done in this presentation.

  • @gerym341
    @gerym341 Před rokem +3

    Menno, thank you for another very interesting video. I am wondering if subjects were natural or if some special sports supplements were involved. If they were, it would significantly impact ability to build muscle while losing fat.

    • @villeisola
      @villeisola Před rokem +5

      Yes, "Participants who were diagnosed with chronic diseases, reported using prescribed medications (excluding birth control pills), or any substances or methods prohibited by WADA, or those competing in the junior (below 19 years of age) or master (over 40 years of age) categories or in a non-drug tested competition were excluded from the study. The participants in the COMP groups were required to prepare for and compete in the Finnish Fitness Sports Association’s 2019 national championships during the investigation and be registered under the national doping control and testing organization under the World Antidoping Agency (WADA) to participate."

    • @gerym341
      @gerym341 Před rokem +1

      @@villeisola that's rather reassuring. Thank you for the information!

  • @mnoy91
    @mnoy91 Před rokem

    Are we able to get our calories back to normal (pre diet) from reverse dieting and maintain weight?? Or do we have to regain our weight (pre diet)? Thx

  • @DivineFrag
    @DivineFrag Před rokem +3

    The word "relative" when comparing men and women is super important to remember, because it's a little bit like interpreting a high-beta regression, i.e. if female muscle up 1 unit, male muscle up β > 1 (or in actual terms, maybe 2 - don't quote me on that haha).
    Shoutout to all my suomen poikas - perkele

  • @Uppaaa
    @Uppaaa Před rokem +1

    What immune markers were tested?

  • @gregfields011
    @gregfields011 Před rokem +5

    Menno, are you saying that men and women can gain the same amount of total muscle (relative to their starting point) or they can gain muscle at the same RATE as each other?

    • @menno.henselmans
      @menno.henselmans  Před rokem +6

      Same rate. Different starting point generally, so the total absolute amount will be lower in women. But if a man and a woman both started with 60 kg FFM, they should be able to gain the same absolute amount of muscle.

    • @imemailingmybrother
      @imemailingmybrother Před 4 měsíci

      ​How can that be possible with testosterone levels etc? Men and women can gain the same amount of muscle? ​@@menno.henselmans

  • @NopainNoGain-wq8bn
    @NopainNoGain-wq8bn Před 2 měsíci

    I think they’re blasting so much more leading up to the competition? So that’s why the women gain muscle in the ladder part of their cut.

  • @Behindjoonao
    @Behindjoonao Před rokem +3

    Thumbnail makes me want to hop on the juice.

  • @Darknight526
    @Darknight526 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great content Menno!

  • @LeagueRandomPlayer
    @LeagueRandomPlayer Před rokem +2

    What about maintenance? can I recompose at maintenance calories? lets say go from 20 to 12 bodyfat but changing that into muscle?

    • @DILFDylF
      @DILFDylF Před 3 měsíci

      Would probably take years. Possibly years and years. Bulking and cutting is WAY faster.

  • @macectoman
    @macectoman Před 4 měsíci

    Do the Finnish bodybuilders do more negative (eccentric) only exercises than the average American bodybuilder? Is this a likely result of the Pavel Komi study of 1970, which influenced the Nautilus Training Principles of Arthur Jones?

    • @macectoman
      @macectoman Před 3 měsíci

      I misspelled the late Dr. Komi's first name, which is actually P-A-A-V-O. Sorry about that.

  • @Tulbia
    @Tulbia Před 2 měsíci

    Now I want to Google Finnish women competitors. Just to se who are we talking about.

  • @flow1188
    @flow1188 Před 3 měsíci

    well if you are in an energy deficit, your body compares the deficit with fat storages. So you arent in an real deficit untill your body fat drops below certain points and your body decides to turn the Lever.

  • @supercal333
    @supercal333 Před 4 měsíci

    Is that thumnail AI generted versions of the same bodybuilder? What was the prompt... "Finninsh gigachad"?

  • @cxa011500
    @cxa011500 Před rokem

    That is traply good to know.

  • @elhartleyo
    @elhartleyo Před rokem

    On point 3 aren't these competitors on PED's? Making their recomp easier

  • @kristijan8518
    @kristijan8518 Před rokem +1

    Beard boosts your gains by 223%?

  • @haroonmirza1286
    @haroonmirza1286 Před rokem

    In one video Layn Nortan's pinworm Paul Revelia proudly tells a story of a female client he coached to get out of metabolic damage FOR TWO YEARS !!!!!! TWO YEARS !!!!

    • @russelldeacon8756
      @russelldeacon8756 Před rokem +1

      Amennorhea may describe what happened to her better than metabolic damage.

  • @mathish1477
    @mathish1477 Před rokem

    Sisu!

  • @timostein4830
    @timostein4830 Před rokem +1

    Hm, but men actually lost muscle, no? Looking at only women to support the claim that one can build muscle in an energy deficit seems like cherry picking to me...

    • @menno.henselmans
      @menno.henselmans  Před rokem +5

      You only need one to show it's *possible*.

    • @timostein4830
      @timostein4830 Před rokem +1

      ​@@menno.henselmans Guess it depends on what "possible" means -- on that view a single data point (subject) showing muscle growth in a deficit would be sufficient. But usually we are interested in inferences to the population level, thus we use inferential stats, and then sub-group analyses can be pretty problematic, inflating Type-1 error.

    • @larsnystrom6698
      @larsnystrom6698 Před rokem +1

      @timostein4830
      Perhaps men too could build muscles if they stayed at 12% bodyfat.

    • @timostein4830
      @timostein4830 Před rokem

      @@larsnystrom6698 Sure, possible! But just looking at the plot it appears, across both groups, no muscle was built.

  • @sergejstojanovic2518
    @sergejstojanovic2518 Před rokem

    Why do you always show off your chest hair all the time xD. Stop flexing on us

  • @patrickg6032
    @patrickg6032 Před rokem +13

    Going below 5% BF is not that hard, Ronnie was 0.3% so surely 3-4% is a walk in the park. People simply lack work ethics these days

    • @Cyb0rgd3ck3r
      @Cyb0rgd3ck3r Před rokem +15

      Uhh... 😂

    • @patrickg6032
      @patrickg6032 Před rokem +8

      @@Cyb0rgd3ck3r xD

    • @DrRRaza
      @DrRRaza Před 5 měsíci +2

      I'm .1% brain is atrophying

    • @frefri4628
      @frefri4628 Před 4 měsíci +11

      Wrong. Ronnie was at negative levels. That’s right. He had negative levels of body fat. Think about that. It means he burned for our sins.