Jordan Peterson is WRONG about Force in the Story of Moses
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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- Talking about how Jordan Peterson does do a good job explaining how the use of force against others is wrong, but at the same time I explain the inherent contradiction in religion. To be religious means one must have faith, and faith inevitably leads to force. Andrew Tate, as an example, is actually honest in his religious beliefs when he favors force at the expense of reason.
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The irony of a boy in a halloween costume intellectually critiquing Jordan and Andrew is hilarious. You clearly struggle to understand metaphors, sarcasm and hyperbole.
Force is absolutely necessary to protect but also raise a human without animalistic, compulsive; instinctive behaviour.
For one to claim they live a life without faith they are either deceitful or naive. Do you believe in climate change? Do you believe in outer space? Do you believe the atom has a nucleus? If so you’ve never experienced these things and are going off faith in science/someone.
My original desire to genuinely respond to CZcams comments is fading rather quickly
oh shid, he got the blue eyes
In the Bible story, God told Moses to "speak" to the rock. This was important because instead of following God's instruction, Moses smote the rock. Moses smote the rock because he was frustrated with the children of Isreal because of their murmurings. Also worth mentioning, he said "hear now rebels, lest "WE" fetch you water out of this rock?" Usurping Gods authority over the miracle. (Numbers 11:2-13)
This is important to the story because that rock was actually "Christ" not just any ordinary rock. (1st Corinthians 10:4)
This is a picture of the Jews crucifixion of Jesus in the gospels.
Okay, fair enough. Why doesn't the story just have Moses hit Jesus instead of rocks? And he "smote" the rock because of some kids? This seems silly. I haven't read the Bible, so maybe my question would be answered once it's read. I feel like the Bible needs a modern, updated version with relatable characters and better symbolism.
Plus, Moses was stranded out in the desert with all the Israelites... They don't need God or faith or any of that nonsense. All they need is reason, to use their minds, to build a new city in the desert or navigate their way to water. Like what is the actual problem here?
Concerning the story of Abraham being told to sacrifice his son. This story is about being willing to give up everything to God. Since Issac is Abraham's promised child, what God is really asking of Abraham is to give sacrifice what he cares the most for. This is a picture of God giving up his only son Jesus Christ to save the world (John 3:16).
Not only was this testing Abraham's faith, but also Isaac's. Although typically the story protests Issac as a child he was in his 30s at the time. They both displayed unwavering faith in God allowing his seed to be blessed among the nations. (Genesis 22:1-19)
The direct connections to Jesus crucifixion is not accident or coincidence. God the father(Abraham) offering His son (Jesus Christ). The hyperlinked nature of the Bible is no accident. If you consider certain passages as contradictory, i would suggest to seek the scriptures with a humble heart that God through his holy spirit would guide you to answers. Peace and love brother!
Lol why do you assume you already have the answers and you're expecting me to find YOUR answers?
"Just be humble and see the good in sacrificing your own son." I guess my Luciferian pride is evil for thinking that's crazy.
There's a lot of contradiction in regards to the concept of Force. But that's okay, religious people are of faith. They don't need to, and shouldn't have to, come up with reasons for why they believe what they believe. They're fine not knowing. Happy in their ignorance. Lol
Moses knew what his sin was . . . it was the use of force when told not to. The same was true for Abraham, the willingness to sacrifice his son when instructed. Which God didn't let him follow through with. Also, in both instances God spoke with them directly, it wasn't an idea that popped in their head. God was in fairly consistent communication with them.
Right, cuz talking to an abstraction in your head, a figment of your imagination, is the same as talking to a human being.
Andrew Tate is right. The part that makes him right is when he says "to a degree". Which he says in your clip. If someone is wrong about objective truth and they apply force on people trying to correct them then they win. Tate is a huge pragmatist a.k.a. what people would say "living in the real world". If you have a truth claim and you cannot use force in self-defense of that truth claim then you lose/die. "To a degree" said by Tate qualifies as inclusive of belief in our ability to see objective truth.
People who use force are losers. Your comment fails to take into account my explanation for how Tate is wrong.
Andrew tate is kind of a loser but in this case he isnt saying the person is actually right when they use force.. but if you cant stand up and defend the truth then the truth wont be heard. He also wasnt making fun of engineers... he is saying that bad ppl who are strong wont care about their knowledge when push comes to shove. Which is true to a degree.. where he is wrong is that if you are strong but dumb you wont know whats right and wrong in life and will be easily duped. So theres pros and cons to both.. so teaming strong people with smart people is what is best
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I'll have to look at the rock story. But you can't expect God to behave like a rational human being. I think that'a where Jesus is supposed to come in. The whole point of God is that he is isn't human so he doesn't need to explain why 2+2=5 now.
Everything else you said is pretty much right. There's no real way to find out if separate gods divine 2+2=3 and 2+2=5 in direct opposition of each other. I suppose this is the realm of god wars and whoever is the supreme forceful god that decides.
Also God could punish the people directly if they incorrectly believed in certain things. Perhaps a priest lied and fabricated 'truths'.
Yes. People believe in God because they actually don’t want the truth.
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God using force against moses is not hypocritical as God is not bound by the same morals set for humanity. He has every rigth to do what ever he wants.
Sounds like God is a tyrannical narcissist and psychopath
@@Kasperanzaa i find it extremely funny when random people like you think they can debunk thousands of years of theology with some CZcams videos by reading some Wikipedia and mabey getting majored in psycology 🤣🤣
@@gugagaagaa8394 I find it extremely funny that random people like you haven't debunked thousands of years of theology with some CZcams videos and Wikipedia articles. And maybe getting a degree in English because you can't spell.
@@Kasperanzaa I cant spell that well in english because its my third language but cope how ever you want🤣
Yeah, Jordan Peterson is wrong about a lot of things
that's why he makes for great criticism