Supreme Commander - FAF Cast 458 - Custom 4v4 on Setons Clutch
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"i dont blame you for losing to air to yudi" "I do blame you for not scouting" i love the faf community
You see a 2300 player with nobody even close to that on the other team and you know exactly how it's going to end.
especially when they get to eco all game
yup, the matchmaking system thinks ranks are additive. They aren't. Not even close.
I’m pretty sure there’s only a handful of players who are on par with Yudi anyway.
A cultured vtuber fan as well I see
If the other team had just a bit higher rated players then they could have pressured yudi enough but 14-1500s are just above casual players while yudi is a top 10 player.
Frankly, I'm still in disbelief about that air-battle performance. One or two microstutters but other than that, totally smooth. I'm used to a "40" minute match lasting upwards of an hour simply due to slowdown.
Your comment is appreciated - after a year worth of work on understanding the game and applying all of the code-performance related knowledge that I've learned during my career it is great to see it all coming together - and especially now during the larger air battles 😄. Luckily, there's still more to come - some of them pointed out by Gyle at the start of this video!
@@Garanas192 Dude you're a legend
Isn't it fantastic? Major props to the FAF Devs.
This is Accidental Aeon. The Battle cruiser finished but I couldn't move it. however, the battle cruiser could still fire its weapons at enemies who happened to approach it.
MadEnte's first mistake was choosing Aeon faction for air slot position. Aeon is notoriously bad at air. Second mistake was not eco'ing heavy enough early game. By mid-game, Haachamacha had double the amount of eco. Third mistake he made was not building enough factories and got massively outproduced by his opponent. Team 2 was winning on multiple fronts but MadEnte let his team down. That was painful to see.
u played well
@@luminatrixfanfiction yeah but at the end of the day a 1500 is just not going to be able to keep up with a 2200 in eco/production/micro. I feel like more cruisers and bulwark ships from the navy players and some sams on the water in key locations could have stunted those broadswords.
@@wubanizer You would be surprised. There can be scenarios where a 1500 can win either by unconventional methods or if the player has overspecialized in playing only one faction for so long. The cruisers, bulwarks and sams would have likely helped slow down broadswords slightly but I don't think it would have stopped them advancing. The 2200 player reached critical numbers with broadswords by that point. What might have helped Team 2 is if the front player Accidental_Aeon build air instead of navy as support to backup the air player. They would have had the numbers combined to maintain air control and put an end to the broadswords. "Dave" had navy under control by the time he started getting T3 in the water so he didn't necessarily need Accidental_Aeon's help.
Anyway, entertaining game and very educational. You guys played well.
I always crack a smile when I see the intro I made being used in your videos! It was just a fun thing I did in my spare time and now it's a part of the channel. I'm so grateful that I could contribute! Thank you so much for the awesome content, Ben!
ohh did you do the cube ? What did you use? Blender?
@@aprilmidnight101 I used After Effects and Premier!
It's awesome!
As a game developer who works on multiplayer net code, this just blows my mind how advanced this game's technology is! So impressive 👏
Remember that this game is also a game from 2006. Albeit FAF has made some decent modifications
I'm 55 and played videos since the 80s (like this: TA and SC). This is the first time I've watched a commentated match and its a revelation! Thx.
It's like watching an actual sports match. Helps that Gyle has the right voice and cadence, sounds exactly like some blokes from sports channels.
props to the joes who hung on until yudi brought the good word
The word of the Sword. :3
The concept of APM being a limited resource that the player must decide how to allocate is so fascinating- the game really is about resources, even more than we initially realize!
Yep thats why you see 2000 rated players building like retards while 1200 rated players build everything nicely next to mexes or pgens for the efficency but what they dont realise is that what they gain in efficency they loose in apm
Wow. This video has convinced me to try and play this game and really commit to it. loved it years ago but had no clue the game had an active community and had no clue games were this entertaining
This has basically replaced my Age of Empires watching. Already binging half the videos in your channel. Your commintary is brilliant man! I hope one day I can make it into one of these games!
30:08 That save with the gunship micro :o
damn, he can do things like that all while building a monster eco. his apm must be godly
Changes sounding great! GC is such an underwhelming experimental compared to the rest even with functional army sucking! Only experimentals that really beats it is probably the atlantis.
Missile cruisers tend to have way more missile density so they should be safe but im definitely of the mindset that attacking SHOULD cost way more than defending. The eco damage and snipes you can get off way outstrip the effectiveness of defences. Anything that brings about giant armies smashing against strong walls, giant overwhelming game ender exchanges and cunning sneaky tactics is a good thing!
Every time a single tac launcher getting past a wall of tmd and ends in a snipe a fairy sneaks in and sets a game to full share!
I mean I would have lost to Yudi too, but would have loved to see more team-work from south. If your air player is playing Yudi, you should plan on building SAMs and hover flak in spades (and they had the eco to do it with).
First name being Haachamacha, proving this to be a good game whenever it appears to the Gyle channel. Sit back and relax.
It was painful watching team 1 throw their early advantage. I guess that's what happens when nobody builds much AA
Yeah while I doubt the game would ever end in any other way than it did, if you know the enemy has someone like a 2300 ranked player as their main air player and your own air player is far below I think it would make perfect sense to do at least something to help your air player. If each of them had made a half decent T1 fighter blob to be fodder they would probably have been able to win or at least keep from losing the air battle entirely, massed they even have decent damage against T3 ESFs but just taking shots for their own T3 ESFs would have been a huge help.
But I am sure that at the first sign of an actual struggle if they somehow did manage to fight him off, Yudi would have switched to long range arty spam/nukes instead and the game would still be over.
@@TheHuffur At 29:10 you can see Accidental Aeon is trying to make t3 air. But he makes those factories too far forward and without flak and sam and shields.
For anyone who can't get enough FAF casts, there are others who also do these (Gyle being the King, of course) . Willow's Duality, The Duelist (does cool science of the game videos too), Acidvash, Function and others that I can't remember. Checkem out.
yeah, i've been enjoying acid a function. Also supreme commander derp
Those gunships really can get brutal en' mass
wow they really did a job on the airfights, amazing.
Screaming "BUILD MORE CRUISERS!" at meat_missle as I'm watching a 10 minute period where Haachamacha's entire air force is sitting over his navy. I mean seriously!?
Hells yes Gyle, nice cast! Hope all is well across the pond :) 🍻
Such a enjoying game, great cast!
Good quick setons, was fun to watch.
Love the vids mate. I am a long time fan of your channel havent played faf in years will be reinstalling asap as soon as I get a new pc. Stay well my g bless.
I would love to see a traditional air craft carrier for uef. Sometimes the cost of the experimental isn't worth it, and having another vessel with anti air and anti missile systems would be nice.
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Thanks brev. Another bangin Friday
Oh Gyle I cant thank you enough. I absolutely love Setons
It's the perfect supcom map, they nailed it immediately.
It's one of very few maps that allows every aspect of the game to be used all at once and it's great.
@@00yiggdrasill00 yeah, it really captures the spirit of massive scale combined arms. I love how it can simulate three seperate fronts, all of which impact each other, but also start with being very personal 1v1 duels. Such amazing map design
Ive always wanted an expanded version of Setons with a wider ocean that wrapped around and a few more islands and ocean mex points.
i really enjoyed this cast :)
I used to plaf SC:FA way back in the day :P
seton's is such a great map
Trust me Gyle, the namesake behind the Haachamacha user name would be tickled at your mispronunciation. It’s delightful. ^_^
Its been awhile since I've played Faf so this might be old news.....but it looks like pd stop shooting mindlessly at hills and will retarget other things if they appear. The faf devs have done so many crazy things for this game. Super Impressive.
Also Gyle Idk anything about CZcams but if you can control where to put ads, you should put ads at the end of the video (after you close etc) it would be an easy way for you to get a little money, and we can easily choose to let the video play through and help support you or since the video is over close and start another gyle cast to binge.
wait multiplayer still exist.... woow
It's been a looong while, i have not played the game.... thought it was dead at some point
This is awesome!!
Seton? Heck yeah, Great cast Gyle like always!
haakamaakaa played this one brilliant!
The hardest thing to do in game is to maintain good intel, scouting.
a Setons game? OH HELL YEAH !!
my brain wasnt prepared to see a 900-unit air battle with no stutter
that seton comin in CLUTCH
The scout in the beginning is for breaking trees clamps to reclaim.
Does $1 buy you a candy bar in the states? Yes. Soms dollar stores offer full-sized brand name candy bars for under a dollar. In some dollar stores they even offer them for half a dollar. I'm not sure what happened, but I distinctly remember candy bars costing more money in my childhood.
if dave is spelled cockon then gyle should be spelled twinkleballs... ^^
Cheers keep up the casts you are awesome, sir Twinkleballs!!!
He could have "mispronounced" him on purpose as "Cocoon" but I guess "Dave" works, too. Surprised he didn't call him "Chad", though.
TheFreshPrinceOfBellend
congrats to 50k
yeah this was done when a 2800 air got to eco for 15 minutes
Accidental_Aeon could have just sat in the little lake where the SAMs were inbetween the rear and front player.
93% balance more like 39%. Stacked teams and honestly, I think one of the two or three matches ever casted, but still somewhat enjoyable to watch
Sup Comm is on sale on GoG right now. Get everyone in.
The Neptune was complete but paused as the engineers finished assist building the naval factory.
Nobody knows that T2 AA shreds gunships. -.-
It's because they are slow and fly in a blob.
But they would have lost in the artywar. You can't outeco a 2300.
they needed both navy players to crush their opponents and enact a land invasion before hacha could get properly nestled in with his monster eco
god damn it dave
cyandy baarrr lmfao nice try Mr Gyle XD
gyle, thank you soo much that you are still uploading supreme commander videos.
If possible, can you please give the link of downloading this game bcoz i cant find it anywhere in the net
Let's go! :)
A "bit" outclassed, but team 2 didn't do itself any favors when they decided not to build AA.
And here I was wondering why so many group games have an air focus player with nothing seems to come of most of them.
When the air players are balanced it can look tame, but when they aren't it can be the quickest way to lose, as you can see. Offensive T2/T3 air units pack a punch, can be anywhere very quickly and can be gone before you can respond with land or navy, so if you lose the air war suddenly everything not under SAM and shield coverage (i.e. most of your mass extractors) are now at risk of being picked off.
An air player can also eco better than a land or navy player (all other things being equal) since ASFs needs a lot of energy but not much mass, so by the time the air game is won they'll be sitting on a fully upgraded mass economy ready to pump into offensive air or experimentals (or both).
Thanks for the amusing casts. How do you display wreck values like that?
What a surprise that a 2300 guy beats the absolute snot out of a 1500 guy in the game-deciding air engagement.
WOOO Seton's! :D
(For those confused where this is coming from, check the video description) Dr. Yueh knew that there was a possibility that the Harkonen's had already killed his wife, but they were also well known for torture and so, since they were blackmailing him with her, it was also a good chance that she was still alive. Of course he knew they weren't going to give her back - he just wanted to make sure she was dead by ending any need for them to bother keeping her alive. I suppose he could've also done so by committing suicide, but then he wouldn't have been able to try to at least get his revenge on Baron Harkonen (via the poisoned tooth he implanted in Duke Atreides).
> To send me FAF replays to be considered for casting, simply send me the replay ID number to either my facebook page or in a youtube or forum mail.
What is this
@@rachadzareif9603 OP said, "to see where this is coming from check the description of the video". I'm making a joke where I read the wrong part of the video description. It's a dumb joke.
isn't it implied in the movie that that spider thing is her?
@@ehrenmurdick eh, decently funny now that i get it
29:10 i think what happened is it JUUUUSST barely finished right before the factory was destroyed, but had lost some hp from the broadsword attack
Thinking of going back to supreme again... Got all the games even the first ones :D gamed them from standard Total to supreme :) Got any tip for a old school gamer like me to get back in to the game? What i see in these games is standard "zerg" in this map if it was 4 vs 4, 2 went flank ship, 1 went air, 1 went land ( in the start ).... I also remember that stealth bombers is way to OP :D
28:38 You have "missed" it
The battleship was completed very close
I just found this channel and wow I love this game just wish I could play it.
He'll yeah first night match time!
MadEnte's first mistake was choosing Aeon faction for air slot position. Aeon is notoriously bad at air. Second mistake was not eco'ing heavy enough early game. By mid-game, Haachamacha had double the amount of eco. Third mistake he made was not building enough factories and got massively outproduced by his opponent. Team 2 was winning on multiple fronts but MadEnte let his team down. That was painful to see.
@gyle have you seen that remake of gladiators is in the works ! Bbc is making it :D
СЕТООООООООООННННННННН.......Юди красавчик 👍
One minor gripe I have about balancing is the HP on the fatboy. It looks like a brick but is build like a tin-can. Can we at least have a shield that regenerates at a reasonable rate?
They are cheap to build like the Monkeylord. Build 2 or 3 of them to help push enemies and get shields and point defense down, then your army does the rest.
@@onceonly1111 I agree they have to be used differently compared to the other experimental units. Pretty much useless unless you protect it. Just seems odd that something tiny like the bulwark can have better shields than the fatboy. And the slow regen rate still doesn't make sense.
Both navy players on team 2 won hard, sad to see they were unable to construct air units
Hi Gyle nice job doing this, i love you man, i have a Q: how do you select a target priority? (like haachamacha use gunships to atack the battelship only?)
The only way to override the default priority is to select your units and tell them to attack something, that kind of micro is why he's at 2300
@@AGENTX506 I have read on the official FAF forums that there is an option called 'snipe mode' (part of a mod which has been integrated into the FAF game for a while now apparently, the thread was from 2020) which can be activated by right clicking the attack button. I have been watching replays in game, and sometimes in the bottom centre of the screen it will say something in white "Target Priority: Engineers" or "Target Priority: ACU" for example, when a player has selected a particular unit and wants it to focus on shooting something first. I have never used this feature myself, though, and based on what I read not all units have it.
It is supposedly very useful when doing something like a ghetto gunship run, experimental push or telemaser attack, so that your chosen units will automatically prioritise the thing you want them to attack over all others without needing to constantly click around and search for them, which reduces the amount of APM required in stressful situations.
@@onceonly1111 I didn't know about this. I just tried it out in game and I see the right click attack toggle, but no (obvious) way to set a specific target priority like engineers though - only 'snipe' mode and 'normal' mode.
I can't find much info about how exactly snipe mode is different, besides it moving the ACU to the top of the priority list for some units.
PLEASE SIRS, JUST A CRUMB OF FLAK
Tractor beam fix is definitely a good idea. I wonder if they also fixed the laser weapons problem.
TMD is a weird case. For as long as Supcom has existed, I find their performance quite acceptable considering TMs fly quite slow and doesn't have homing. Of course, TMD isn't op at stopping everything being thrown at them and the only two powerful TMDs are Cybran and Aeon. This leads to UEF and Seraphim has a subpar TMD but still they do their job as supposed. Quite weird to hear people say TMD is bad. If they do buff TMD, I wonder how would that be. Would they make UEF being able to target up to 3 TMs and Seraphim has area damage like all there anti-air weapons? Would they then buff TM by allowing certain TMs to have homing or would they buff their flying speed? How would billy nuke deal with this change?
The projectile miss issue will probably greatly improve Interceptor vs ASF matchup quite a lot.
yudi could have tried a little less hard to dominante ;)
Ow look it's Dave 😏
Gyle, question: your graphics seem much better then my FAF. what mod did you install for better graphics?
He bought himself a blinky blinky power rig, that's probably making all the difference
Do you have Bloom enabled in your in game video settings? That's what makes things look shiny.
if we haven't any different between 1k-1.3k rank after 1400 we have grow up in skill as logarithm function. Thats means different between 1500 and 1700 is a multiple biggest that 1100 and 1300. But when we say about people 2k+ that looks like play with people who know how to play this game.
Some balance matchmaking would be great
HAACHAMACHAMA :). Such a loveable vtuber she is
Well, that's a thumbnail :)
gyylllllleeeeee
anybody know what to do if the sound its insane when zoomed out ingame
Gyle, "CQE35R" is probably pseduo-leet-speak and supposed to be "Squeezer".
Thanks for the info. Man that's not immediately obvious though.
How about T2 and T3 Missile Tracking for mobile missile launchers and naval ships?
Like in the original Supcom.
Why does no one seem to build smd against the nuke ? Have been watching a few games and no one ever builds defenses for some reason early enough?
Can you please let me know what is the song you're humming when there is a group of flying soulrippers? Ta ta ra ta ta ta ra ta...
Didnt know Haachama played this game.
BRODESODES
Yudi is OP
Gyle missed quite a lot of activities in the North. focused too much in the middle while the white player is busy working around in their opponent's backyard.
42:30 how does he miss the nuke lol
@Gyle Whats the replay ID please?
if i want play it i must have buy faf right?
Never figured you for an NFL fan...who is your team?
But who is Seton?
And why does he clutch?
Team 2 could have won this in their sleep *IF* the players were actually playing to win.
FAF has so many cool things to build, but the stuff that actually wins games is super boring (T2 corsair rush, T3 strat snipe, T3 artillery, Nukes, T3 Air spam on open maps). The resource lead on Team 2 was so insane, but no-one was building to win.
Pink was high enough rating that he knew his team was full of a bunch of jokers, and so he rushed what would win him the game... ASF and broadsword spam (other team low rank air player suicided his entire ASF cloud into a hopeless engagement).
On a map this big, if you lose the ASF war, you lose the game, because it's impossible to concentrate enough air defense to defend all bases. At least dual gap has chokepoints and is narrow enough that air spam isn't a guarenteed win.
Gyle, how can i reach you to submit a replay?
Check the video description. Those instructions are there under every video.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn ok thanks you!
Air game impact
gg
double or 2.5x the cost of all endgamers, t3 arty, fucking mavs. and the game would be a lot more fun as the t3 warfare would last longer.
that was a rick roll