The Libertarian argument: 1. Taxation is slavery. 2. No wait taxation is cool as long as it's states doing it. 3. No wait some federal taxation is ok. 4. No wait most federal taxation is ok. 5. Oh crap I'm just a Republican who thought I was special.
I did a super basic research on this for a community college public speaking class, not only is there evidence that the planet is getting warmer, but they have charts and graphs that you can look at. NASA has been studying this and they have found that the last few years have been record breaking years of heat in a row. Also, they can prove through examining the CO2 in ice cores that indeed atmosphere is growing more abundant with CO2. The thing about CO2 is that it traps heat, so when there's a bunch of it in the atmosphere, the planet almost literally becomes oven that's slowly being turned up.
"you need to look at the private scientists", yeah the scientists who work for the oil companies are, of course, the least biased. This caller is a clown.
Woah, woah, woah, woah...WOAH... PragerU is an actual university with actual scientists behind it. The oil money? Pfffft. Who cares about money? Certanly not Rubin. It's not like he changed his political views because of it.
the Greatjon James doesnt get that the State alone cannot provide services for the legal, retired and working, let alone the sick, low income , disabled. If Jame's gets sick or hurt will he pay the co pay?.
Mars gets up to 70 degrees so... what's the point of saying that? Of fucking course the warmest spot on Mars is warmer than the coldest part of earth... we are orbiting the same sun at about the same distance... why do retards think saying random things that have nothing to do with the subject, helps their case???
So wait even if global warming was a hoax, then that means we shouldn’t pursue renewable energy sources and clean energy? We shouldn’t strive to make sure our cities aren’t full of smog which can cause cancer and birth defects? We shouldn’t try to decrease our reliance on fossil fuels, which are limited and will run out? What is the plan for when there is no more oil and natural gas?
These people often work for or are buddies with people in the fossil fuel industry. At the end of the day they justify it because their wallet or heart demands it, they aren't motivated by an honest attempt at reasoning or applying evidentialism.
su An even better argument is that billions of people around the world want our lifestyle and in order to make it possible without involving violence, we need to develop technology to make it possible and affordable to live this lifestyle. Plus it will make our lifestyle cheaper for ourselves. In addition, people around the world will be developing green tech whether we like it or not. We can get in on the ground floor and help develop our economy, or we can get left behind and stagnate with the end result being our becoming a poor nation. Even if scientists have missed some intangible variable and our actions aren’t contributing to global warming as much as we thought, we cannot take the chance of being wrong. There are many reasons for us to develop green tech and global warming is only one.
Roger 9 Good point! 😉. Perhaps I should have said the lifestyle we used to have and the middle class in China now has (considering they can afford servants in the Chinese middle class.)
@@donaldclifford5763 - Nicotine is addictive and cigarette companies were actively manipulating the levels of nicotine in their cigarettes to keep their customers hooked. That is actual science. What actual science says that greenhouse gas emissions from humans have no impact on climate change and global warming? Your only reply to the OP is to say "No," and then you tell me to "learn some science." Interesting.
@@donaldclifford5763 Donny why are you not giving any evidence? Come on my dude you got 30 years of BIG PICTURE thinking under your belt and the best ya got is “learn science” ? What science can you impart upon us ?
Sam keeps mentioning "peer reviewed studies". The caller probably thinks Sam means climate studies that are reviewed on piers. No wonder he thinks Sam is full of shit. I would too. Who the hell reviews climate studies on a pier?
Temperature on mars = about -225 degrees Fahrenheit... Damn Alaska was cold enough to kill every single person living there but they all survived! Its a miracle!
I love these libertarian calls! They are interesting meanderings into confused minds of inconsistencies and contradictions who are so sure of themselves!
Bryce S. Did you just call Stefan Molyneux intelligent? BTW, I watched that debate and Sam mopped the floor with Stefan too. The only difference is that Stefan is used to discussing things on air and was more composed. All of his arguments fell apart like tissue paper in a toilet bowl, just like they all do.
@@MJW238 nation of islam obama sends me into hysterics even now. the one bit where he’s got the call to prayer playing in the background and when sam pauses it he goes “DON’T STOP THAT MUSIC, I’M PRESIDENT BABY”
I love how sam debates. it's like a therapist trying to find the specific issue the caller has because almost all of them don't appear to know themselves, and it saves us all time for Sam to do that.
I'm so sick of people like this caller. They have a little bit of information and think they're a constitutional law professor. If the federal govt. didn't pay for interstates most small states could not have paid for them alone. Those roads help businesses in their states. Its like an insurance pool...the more people paying into the system the lower the costs for everyone.
RuleofFive Oh, this is good:" If the federal govt. didn't pay for interstates most small states could not have paid for them alone." And who PAYS for the federal government, if not most of the small states? Dumbass.
Tom Evans "And who PAYS for the federal government, if not most of the small states? Dumbass." You missed my point and the point of the Eisenhower Interstate System. More than half the population lives in the 10 most populated states. By using the pool of the federal government's money even a state like Wyoming (pop. 600, 000) can have interstate highways built with the help of larger states pooling their money at the federal level. Is that too hard for you to understand?
RuleofFive Your point is wrong on so many levels that it denies wasting time explaining them. The interstate was built for war, Europe has better international roads without a federal government, private roads could do it better through supply and demand, etc.
Dom Trussardi Uh, no, without the states there would be no federal government. Law of Nations, Book I, Chapter I, § 10: Of states forming a federal republic: *Finally, several sovereign and independent states may unite themselves together by a perpetual confederacy, without ceasing to be, each individually, a perfect state. They will together constitute a federal republic: their joint deliberations will not impair the sovereignty of each member, though they may, in certain respects, put some restraint on the exercise of it, in virtue of voluntary engagements. A person does not cease to be free and independent, when he is obliged to fulfil engagements which he has voluntarily contracted.* This ties into Federalist No. 39: *On examining the first relation, it appears, on one hand, that the Constitution is to be founded on the assent and ratification of the people of America, given by deputies elected for the special purpose; but, on the other, that this assent and ratification is to be given by the people, not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong. It is to be the assent and ratification of the several States, derived from the supreme authority in each State, the authority of the people themselves. The act, therefore, establishing the Constitution, will not be a NATIONAL, but a FEDERAL act.* *That it will be a federal and not a national act, as these terms are understood by the objectors; the act of the people, as forming so many independent States, not as forming one aggregate nation, is obvious from this single consideration, that it is to result neither from the decision of a MAJORITY of the people of the Union, nor from that of a MAJORITY of the States. It must result from the UNANIMOUS assent of the several States that are parties to it, differing no otherwise from their ordinary assent than in its being expressed, not by the legislative authority, but by that of the people themselves. Were the people regarded in this transaction as forming one nation, the will of the majority of the whole people of the United States would bind the minority, in the same manner as the majority in each State must bind the minority; and the will of the majority must be determined either by a comparison of the individual votes, or by considering the will of the majority of the States as evidence of the will of a majority of the people of the United States. Neither of these rules have been adopted.* *Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.* --The Federalist Papers : No. 39 So the USA is a federal republic, not a national one-- i.e. a purely _voluntary_ association of sovereign nations, each ruled supremely by its _People._ Thus since the states were legally sovereign nations by law, the Lincoln regime accomplished its war by lies and _censorship,_ locking up anyone who told this truth, and even toruturing them with horrible tortures including shoving hoses down their throats and filing their lungs with water until they exploded, in addition to running concentration-camps for anyone who resisted. THAT'S how they won the war. However with the internet and other modern technology, there's no longer any way to do this and get away with it; and so once the truth is known, the end of tyranny will come not with a shout, but with a Twitter. Like when Mayor Daley's police beat up the Chicago protestors of the Vietnam war, "the whole world is blogging." In contrast, here's the White House's official response to Texas's petition for secession: *Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his @19 in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual."* As proven by the above passages, this is clearly a lie. And once this lie is exposed, and the People of each state learn that their state IS a sovereign nation-- and that they ARE the ruling sovereigns-- then that will be the end of it, states will secede at whim..... just like they can secede from the UN. "The pen is mightier than the sword.. and the truth shall set you free." --Lord Byron and John 8:32
"No evidence of the earth getting hotter in the past 10 years" *Californian wildfires, record breaking heat in the North West, droughts all over Texas and the Midwest, and Im melting at my house in Louisiana* This aged well
And I guarantee James is still denying anthropogenic climate change as he's dealing with a probable flood insurance claim. "How could humans be causing the climate to get warmer when I'm physically colder as I'm sitting in floodwater in my living room?!?!"
@@donaldclifford5763 When people say libertarian typically they’re only talking about economic libertarianism rather than social. It’s a pretty specifically right wing thing
@@NN-sp9tu Actually it's philosophical. With Libertarianism, Freedom is the highest value, across the board. Ayn Rand's Objectivism actually is a formal systemic philosophy, derived first from Aristotle, and fine tuned by the 18th Century Enlightenment, especially John Locke's treatises on Natural Law and the Rights of Man.
If you can get past your irritation, it really does provide a fascinating look into the mindset of neocon/libertarian talk media as well as a reflection on the intentions.
“Canada is colder than Mars this year…” aged like milk. I live in British Columbia and we had 3 days that were ~50C in summer 2021. That’s nowhere near normal.
Colder than Mars? The temperature on Mars, measured by those wacky scientists working for that dag nabbit gubmit, is anywhere from 68 °F to −243 °F. So wtf is this caller saying about Mars as compared to Canada? Sometimes it's colder in Canada, or Mexico, than on Mars. A mountain peak in Mexico, for example, might be colder than a low albedo location at the equator during a Mars' summer day, for a few minutes. Yeah. So what?
Ay yes… every libertarian caller turns into the Joker mid video.
Před 8 lety+8
Right-wing libertarians just cannot hide their conceit or contempt. You cannot expect to have your conversation taken seriously if you automatically treat your opponent as inferior. Of course, the point of this conversation was for another right-wing libertarian to play narcissistic games, not to have an actual dialog with another human being. Another round of "Soggy Biscuit" anyone?
I was sucked into the libertarian rabbit hole during the 2016 election and after being a part of the community for years, I came to find out that there’s no such thing as “a true libertarian “ because the minute you even slightly disagree with someone, you’re a statist and a Hilary/Obama/Bernie/Biden worshipper.
This was a beautiful interview. I love it when callers get all fired up with the talking points they've been fed, run to the phone and just start shooting it out like a chaingun that fires ignorance and stupidity. I enjoyed each time this little caller threw out a talking point, only to have numbers and facts thrown back at him, to which he would shake his head and angrily deny and point toward ill-defined "internet sources" and "I heard it on the news!" One has to enjoy watching people who are all hyped up on anger and adrenaline trying to make points about things they genuinely know nothing about and really haven't bothered to even approach from an objective standpoint. They just get decimated in these incidents.
Prior to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation gave all the rights of taxation to the states and the Fed Government could not even raise an army. It was the "founding fathers" realized that a weak federal government would not work. They replaced the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution to resolve that problem. If the Libertarians think that the founders knew best, well OK.
The whole fucking point of the constitution was to have a strong federal government that could hold states in order. If they didn't a fucking federal government, they wouldn't have gone through all the fucking effort to draft one of history's most important documents. The federal constitution actually did away with laws that the states had which were counter to the federal constitution. Things like religious tests, for example, were removed from state constitutions.
Well, if you're only free because you own yourself, and you can do anything you like with your own property, then you should be able to sell yourself. Therefore, Libertarianism endorses slavery.
When someone tells me they don’t believe in global warming, I immediately tune out. If a person is willing to ignore that much data just so they don’t have to admit they’re wrong, then how in the hell could anyone ever have a constructive conversation about anything with them?
I'm in Ottawa. He references Canada...yes, it was cold, but...we just had massive floods and the summers have been hotter than on record. On Canada Day in Ottawa (Canada's capital) it was so hot hardly anyone came out...over 40C.
"You can't listen to these government scientists, you need to only listen to scientists who are paid by industry groups with a clear and massive conflict of interest in the research"
One of the most epic ones. And it’s amazing how fast he was on his heels when Sam asked if owner of restaurant allowed to discriminate based on skin color to suggest “of course you could discriminate, let’s say, white customer”. He was stupid the whole time, but for that he was noticeably alert and prepared. I wonder why.
Q: Why will libertarians never accept the notion of global warming, no matter how logical the arguments for it are and no matter how much evidence for it gets amassed? A: It entails an assumption that things that you do could affect the lives of other people. This is unacceptable to libertarians who claim the right to do whatever the fuck they want.
The Libertarian argument:
1. Taxation is slavery.
2. No wait taxation is cool as long as it's states doing it.
3. No wait some federal taxation is ok.
4. No wait most federal taxation is ok.
5. Oh crap I'm just a Republican who thought I was special.
Raven Guerrero. Is a Trump Crumpet, " many, many, many" .. HOW many and who.
Dude this is hilarious
You forgot #6: wait you're cutting out!
I did a super basic research on this for a community college public speaking class, not only is there evidence that the planet is getting warmer, but they have charts and graphs that you can look at. NASA has been studying this and they have found that the last few years have been record breaking years of heat in a row.
Also, they can prove through examining the CO2 in ice cores that indeed atmosphere is growing more abundant with CO2. The thing about CO2 is that it traps heat, so when there's a bunch of it in the atmosphere, the planet almost literally becomes oven that's slowly being turned up.
#7 will you let me speak
"you need to look at the private scientists", yeah the scientists who work for the oil companies are, of course, the least biased. This caller is a clown.
Whats great is that even Exxon believes in global warming and invests heavily in preparing for it.
That’s what I was about to type lol
Woah, woah, woah, woah...WOAH...
PragerU is an actual university with actual scientists behind it. The oil money? Pfffft. Who cares about money? Certanly not Rubin. It's not like he changed his political views because of it.
@@kevindonahue2251 yea because theyre going to eventually go totally green, and big green is the biggest scam of our lives. fucking imbecile.
@@profhudsonshugeballs Lol yeah. Its a very long con that will eventually pay off for Al Gore
*_"This is James from the South"_* Right off the bat you knew this was going to be good.
Maybe he's afraid that if he says what state he lives in then Obama (who's in the green room) will find him.
I'm surprised it wasn't Jim Bob, or at least, Jimbo.
I had to pause to make popcorn.
the Greatjon
James doesnt get that the State alone cannot provide services for the legal, retired and working, let alone the sick, low income , disabled.
If Jame's gets sick or hurt will he pay the co pay?.
James Hallgring I think urs a woman ? Lol it is the south, after all.
"Canada is colder than Mars this year."
-Global Warming skeptics.
Checkmate, environmentalists!
Der Low checkmate athiests
Chess is a hoax! Checkmate!
Canada is cool 😎 lol
Mars gets up to 70 degrees so... what's the point of saying that? Of fucking course the warmest spot on Mars is warmer than the coldest part of earth... we are orbiting the same sun at about the same distance... why do retards think saying random things that have nothing to do with the subject, helps their case???
Every libertarian who goes on this show says the last libertarian on the show wasn't a proper libertarian.
LOL Does seem that way, doesn't it?
In fairness advocating slavery is genuinely in violation of the harm principle and not remotely libertarian.
No true Scotsman fallacy, eh?
@@stephenowen3383 After this video ended, that slavery call started auto-playing afterward. I'm 99% sure that's the same human.
@@BryceLK if that is the case, fucking hell.
I bet this guy never even managed a Denny's.
No please no lol I can't stop laughing hahaha
He can barely manage a coherent sentence.
Seven years later, this is still brilliant.
Lol
LMAO
"We have INSANE taxes."
"We have nearly the lowest taxes in history."
"THEY SHOULD BE LOWER."
Holy shit. Holy shit!
So wait even if global warming was a hoax, then that means we shouldn’t pursue renewable energy sources and clean energy? We shouldn’t strive to make sure our cities aren’t full of smog which can cause cancer and birth defects? We shouldn’t try to decrease our reliance on fossil fuels, which are limited and will run out? What is the plan for when there is no more oil and natural gas?
These people often work for or are buddies with people in the fossil fuel industry. At the end of the day they justify it because their wallet or heart demands it, they aren't motivated by an honest attempt at reasoning or applying evidentialism.
su
An even better argument is that billions of people around the world want our lifestyle and in order to make it possible without involving violence, we need to develop technology to make it possible and affordable to live this lifestyle. Plus it will make our lifestyle cheaper for ourselves. In addition, people around the world will be developing green tech whether we like it or not. We can get in on the ground floor and help develop our economy, or we can get left behind and stagnate with the end result being our becoming a poor nation.
Even if scientists have missed some intangible variable and our actions aren’t contributing to global warming as much as we thought, we cannot take the chance of being wrong. There are many reasons for us to develop green tech and global warming is only one.
Well the FREE MARKET will sort it all out............................LUL
@@keirfarnum6811 I think you mean european countries lifestyle cause we're pretty fucked at the moment.
Roger 9
Good point! 😉. Perhaps I should have said the lifestyle we used to have and the middle class in China now has (considering they can afford servants in the Chinese middle class.)
What an angry young man. But hey ladies I bet he's single!
And will be forever. We hope.
Don't want a guy like this to replicate for sure.
His cousin would disagree.
This guy is dumb as shit...
Because that's what we supposedly like, right? Angry "dominant" men who probably don't believe in women's rights? It is pretty funny...
"The private scientists that prove this isn't happening..." Yeah...just like the ones who said tobacco isn't addictive...Right wing science folks!
No.
@@donaldclifford5763 - Yes.
@@MkeKen67 Learn some science.
@@donaldclifford5763 - Nicotine is addictive and cigarette companies were actively manipulating the levels of nicotine in their cigarettes to keep their customers hooked. That is actual science. What actual science says that greenhouse gas emissions from humans have no impact on climate change and global warming? Your only reply to the OP is to say "No," and then you tell me to "learn some science." Interesting.
@@donaldclifford5763 Donny why are you not giving any evidence? Come on my dude you got 30 years of BIG PICTURE thinking under your belt and the best ya got is “learn science” ? What science can you impart upon us ?
Libertarians when govt: "Don't tread on me! Hiss!"
Libertarians when corporations: "Yeah daddy tread harder"
An instance in service of all? NAAH! Better meat ride corporal oligarchy.
Sam keeps mentioning "peer reviewed studies". The caller probably thinks Sam means climate studies that are reviewed on piers. No wonder he thinks Sam is full of shit. I would too. Who the hell reviews climate studies on a pier?
+Paul Romano the pier scientist?? lol
Lmao 😂
"Of course pier reviewed studies show global warming! The beach is usually hot!"
Paul Romano: hahahaha
I love a good pier. You can see people fishing or enjoying a nice day. We need more piers. You heard it here first.
Temperature on mars = about -225 degrees Fahrenheit... Damn Alaska was cold enough to kill every single person living there but they all survived! Its a miracle!
@Oners82 Wait are you getting upset cause he used the coldest day? Kind of ridiculous.
It's never been -225 on earth...
@@jamesf791 it gets up to 70 degrees on Mars... every night at my house it's colder than that... wtf are all you idiots talking about?
@@KBrown-fw1gu Near the poles during the Martian winter, the temperature can get down to -195°F.
I love these libertarian calls! They are interesting meanderings into confused minds of inconsistencies and contradictions who are so sure of themselves!
Triangle Man wow, quite the rebuttal there using my words in a classic "I know you are but what am I?"
You are so sure of yourself being sure they are sure of themselves
I recommend watching an actual intelligent small-government advocate debate with Sam Seder, such as Stefan Molyneux vs Sam Seder.
Bryce S.
Did you just call Stefan Molyneux intelligent?
BTW, I watched that debate and Sam mopped the floor with Stefan too. The only difference is that Stefan is used to discussing things on air and was more composed. All of his arguments fell apart like tissue paper in a toilet bowl, just like they all do.
Triangle Man being owned? By crackpot? this guy was all over he place. If you think Sam was being "owned" by this guy, you live in another reality
This is hardly an epic debate. More like an epic Libertarian faceplant.
+Hobbes Tiger as usual
This caller is a textbook example of the Dunning Kruger effect
USA your south is broken :D
i wanna get the fuck out of the south ASAP
Ryan Walker
Work to change it!
Stringer Bell unfortunately, the only way to change it is to wait for the people in charge right now to die off.
Hey now, people are politically moronic here, but southern food is incredible.
We know. Trust me.
He's a libertarian.... he doesn't know why, but he's a libertarian.
That describes most liberals.
It describes so many ppl...so many folks don't really do their own research to craft their worldviews.
He wants to control his own body
Donald Clifford 😂😂😂😂😂wow you are really dumb
Right wing "libertarian"* Left wing libertarians aka libertarians tend to be a lot more poli-sci literate.
That Obama impression was AMAZING.
Caller seemed legit confused. And maybe a little afraid.
No more Obama impressions for us anymore, sadly.
You need to look at his Nation of Islam Obama
@@MJW238 nation of islam obama sends me into hysterics even now. the one bit where he’s got the call to prayer playing in the background and when sam pauses it he goes “DON’T STOP THAT MUSIC, I’M PRESIDENT BABY”
I love how sam debates. it's like a therapist trying to find the specific issue the caller has because almost all of them don't appear to know themselves, and it saves us all time for Sam to do that.
"I'd cut almost everything but the military"
Hahahahaha
Where do they find this people? I almost think they pay people for this.
DamarSweetness I love that term "Adult Daycare" to describe the military.
What would you do?
I'm so sick of people like this caller. They have a little bit of information and think they're a constitutional law professor. If the federal govt. didn't pay for interstates most small states could not have paid for them alone. Those roads help businesses in their states. Its like an insurance pool...the more people paying into the system the lower the costs for everyone.
RuleofFive Oh, this is good:" If the federal govt. didn't pay for interstates most small states could not have paid for them alone."
And who PAYS for the federal government, if not most of the small states?
Dumbass.
Tom Evans "And who PAYS for the federal government, if not most of the small states? Dumbass."
You missed my point and the point of the Eisenhower Interstate System. More than half the population lives in the 10 most populated states. By using the pool of the federal government's money even a state like Wyoming (pop. 600, 000) can have interstate highways built with the help of larger states pooling their money at the federal level. Is that too hard for you to understand?
RuleofFive Your point is wrong on so many levels that it denies wasting time explaining them. The interstate was built for war, Europe has better international roads without a federal government, private roads could do it better through supply and demand, etc.
Dom Trussardi Uh, no, without the states there would be no federal government.
Law of Nations, Book I, Chapter I, § 10: Of states forming a federal republic:
*Finally, several sovereign and independent states may unite themselves together by a perpetual confederacy, without ceasing to be, each individually, a perfect state. They will together constitute a federal republic: their joint deliberations will not impair the sovereignty of each member, though they may, in certain respects, put some restraint on the exercise of it, in virtue of voluntary engagements. A person does not cease to be free and independent, when he is obliged to fulfil engagements which he has voluntarily contracted.*
This ties into Federalist No. 39:
*On examining the first relation, it appears, on one hand, that the Constitution is to be founded on the assent and ratification of the people of America, given by deputies elected for the special purpose; but, on the other, that this assent and ratification is to be given by the people, not as individuals composing one entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong. It is to be the assent and ratification of the several States, derived from the supreme authority in each State, the authority of the people themselves. The act, therefore, establishing the Constitution, will not be a NATIONAL, but a FEDERAL act.*
*That it will be a federal and not a national act, as these terms are understood by the objectors; the act of the people, as forming so many independent States, not as forming one aggregate nation, is obvious from this single consideration, that it is to result neither from the decision of a MAJORITY of the people of the Union, nor from that of a MAJORITY of the States. It must result from the UNANIMOUS assent of the several States that are parties to it, differing no otherwise from their ordinary assent than in its being expressed, not by the legislative authority, but by that of the people themselves. Were the people regarded in this transaction as forming one nation, the will of the majority of the whole people of the United States would bind the minority, in the same manner as the majority in each State must bind the minority; and the will of the majority must be determined either by a comparison of the individual votes, or by considering the will of the majority of the States as evidence of the will of a majority of the people of the United States. Neither of these rules have been adopted.*
*Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.*
--The Federalist Papers : No. 39
So the USA is a federal republic, not a national one-- i.e. a purely _voluntary_ association of sovereign nations, each ruled supremely by its _People._
Thus since the states were legally sovereign nations by law, the Lincoln regime accomplished its war by lies and _censorship,_ locking up anyone who told this truth, and even toruturing them with horrible tortures including shoving hoses down their throats and filing their lungs with water until they exploded, in addition to running concentration-camps for anyone who resisted. THAT'S how they won the war.
However with the internet and other modern technology, there's no longer any way to do this and get away with it; and so once the truth is known, the end of tyranny will come not with a shout, but with a Twitter. Like when Mayor Daley's police beat up the Chicago protestors of the Vietnam war, "the whole world is blogging."
In contrast, here's the White House's official response to Texas's petition for secession:
*Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his @19 in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual."*
As proven by the above passages, this is clearly a lie. And once this lie is exposed, and the People of each state learn that their state IS a sovereign nation-- and that they ARE the ruling sovereigns-- then that will be the end of it, states will secede at whim..... just like they can secede from the UN.
"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and the truth shall set you free." --Lord Byron and John 8:32
Dom Trussardi Amazing how anyone can prove themselves so stupid in 5 lines. How DO you do it.
This caller is the embodiment of anti-intellectualism.
Aggressive anti-intellectualism.
I put Sam in that class.
@@donaldclifford5763
No u!
@@NN-sp9tu Looks like you just self identified.
"I'm James from the South": DEBATE OVER
How about, "I'm Sam, a liberal"?
I love when libertarians call in
knuckle dragger.
Dirt kicker
Trump voter
This thread represents the very best in liberal thinking.
"No evidence of the earth getting hotter in the past 10 years"
*Californian wildfires, record breaking heat in the North West, droughts all over Texas and the Midwest, and Im melting at my house in Louisiana*
This aged well
It was BS even 8 years ago. Here in California we haven't had a real winter in 20+ years...
And I guarantee James is still denying anthropogenic climate change as he's dealing with a probable flood insurance claim. "How could humans be causing the climate to get warmer when I'm physically colder as I'm sitting in floodwater in my living room?!?!"
All libertarian arguments in a nutshell:
"I don't like taxes"
That is a universal statement. Libertarian is simply another word for freedom.
@@donaldclifford5763
When people say libertarian typically they’re only talking about economic libertarianism rather than social. It’s a pretty specifically right wing thing
@@NN-sp9tu Actually it's philosophical. With Libertarianism, Freedom is the highest value, across the board. Ayn Rand's Objectivism actually is a formal systemic philosophy, derived first from Aristotle, and fine tuned by the 18th Century Enlightenment, especially John Locke's treatises on Natural Law and the Rights of Man.
@@donaldclifford5763 "everything is slavery except slavery which is fine"
@@biocode4478 Sounds Orwellian.
Another classic. God, do I ever love these Libertarian callers.
I'll take one over a liberal any day.
@@donaldclifford5763 I dont think you know what that word means. Jesus says hi by the way.
@@farbauti5398 Try me.
@Jack Marsden Yah. And same for liberals.
@Jack Marsden Whatever. I'm way smarter than you.
This caller is fantastic! All you need to know about Libertarianism in less than half an hour.
Only if your purpose is to denegrate something which you are totally ignorant of. That's the liberal way.
@@donaldclifford5763 you totally just described, what the self-professed, so-called libertarian caller was doing. 😂
Good job Cletus!!!
@@uploadstuff1762 Only a warped liberal can accomplish that. Otherwse you would stop being an ignorant know it all and actually get educated.
@@donaldclifford5763 Call in and set the record straight!
@@MackerelSkyLtd You are of course referring to an 8 year old call in. Right?
This person lost me when he questioned something that has a 95% chance of being true.
Wow. Libertarian is just code for "closet racist". I get it now!
+MOME914 i thought it was code for sociopath.
mike dixie rect Yea your right. "Racist" doesn't sum up all their problems.
When you think you know everything you should think again.
Not if you're liberal.
I died laughing when someone started talking to the caller in a fake Obama Voice.
Lol
@@Disentropic1 Michaels Obama impression was damn near perfect lolol
“Private scientists” LMAO
You're an idiot for listening to scientists that don't get paid by the industries they are studying.
I cant handle these callers. It's so obnoxious and annoying. Glad you're patient enough to shut him down.
If you can get past your irritation, it really does provide a fascinating look into the mindset of neocon/libertarian talk media as well as a reflection on the intentions.
I love how EVERY TIME Sam makes a good point, they say “what? Sorry you cut out” 😂
Article VI of the Constitution says that federal law is the supreme law of the land.
Known as the "Supremacy Clause". It simply refers to the relationship of federal and state law.
What a self defeating clown. Almost Every statement he made he refuted 30 seconds later.
Right? 😂
Can this guy call back in now please?
We need more libertarians callers
@@SandNebula Sam scared them away.
"no southerners allowed on this program" lol Seder served him a perfect dose of his own medicine, that was perfect Seder - well done.
Conservatoids: "anthropogenic climate change is fiction."
Also conservatoids: "God for sure flooded the planet."
"Climate change isn't happening because Canada was extremely cold!" The same stupid argument over and over.
"You're a southern racist!" Says "James from the south" right after arguing that businesses should be allowed to discriminate based on race
Everytime a libertarian complains about his bad phone connection, an angel gets its wings.
“Canada is colder than Mars this year…” aged like milk. I live in British Columbia and we had 3 days that were ~50C in summer 2021. That’s nowhere near normal.
This is 1000% the guy who called in before who wanted slavery.
Homie actually said “private scientists “
I bet he believes the world is 6,000 years old..
And flat.
When he said "tens of thousands" that tipped me off.
Has no connection with libertarianism. which is the philosophy of freedom.
Colder than Mars? The temperature on Mars, measured by those wacky scientists working for that dag nabbit gubmit, is anywhere from 68 °F to −243 °F. So wtf is this caller saying about Mars as compared to Canada?
Sometimes it's colder in Canada, or Mexico, than on Mars. A mountain peak in Mexico, for example, might be colder than a low albedo location at the equator during a Mars' summer day, for a few minutes. Yeah. So what?
It's amazing how Sam can repeatedly get this guy to agree with something, ask if he agrees with it, and receive a fervent denial.
The typical right wing argument
"The climate's always changing"
🤡🤡🤡
Actually weather changes. "Climate change" is a liberal concoction of underdeveloped mentality.
@@donaldclifford5763 🤣🤣🤣 please stop
@@AnmlPeeweeIsHere Please explain.
@@donaldclifford5763 just judging by your comment history youre far gone. 🤣
@@AnmlPeeweeIsHere Can you actually be, specific?
"I got news for ya, Chief!" ...cracked me up!
This caller is great! Lmao. I also think he is the lightbulb guy, even though he pretends not to be.
Oh my God. You’re right! It didn’t even occur to me until I saw this comment!
Ay yes… every libertarian caller turns into the Joker mid video.
Right-wing libertarians just cannot hide their conceit or contempt. You cannot expect to have your conversation taken seriously if you automatically treat your opponent as inferior. Of course, the point of this conversation was for another right-wing libertarian to play narcissistic games, not to have an actual dialog with another human being. Another round of "Soggy Biscuit" anyone?
every one of these callers are like “those OTHER libertarians don’t get it”
I mean, to be fair they aren't wrong. The part where they're wrong is when they think they get it.
I was sucked into the libertarian rabbit hole during the 2016 election and after being a part of the community for years, I came to find out that there’s no such thing as “a true libertarian “ because the minute you even slightly disagree with someone, you’re a statist and a Hilary/Obama/Bernie/Biden worshipper.
Dude got SHOOK at the Obama impression lol
😂
Why does every libertarian sound like the "where we're going we don't need any roads" guy from the debate?
here's How to explain climate change to conservatives. "The earth has a right to stand it's ground"
This was a beautiful interview. I love it when callers get all fired up with the talking points they've been fed, run to the phone and just start shooting it out like a chaingun that fires ignorance and stupidity.
I enjoyed each time this little caller threw out a talking point, only to have numbers and facts thrown back at him, to which he would shake his head and angrily deny and point toward ill-defined "internet sources" and "I heard it on the news!"
One has to enjoy watching people who are all hyped up on anger and adrenaline trying to make points about things they genuinely know nothing about and really haven't bothered to even approach from an objective standpoint. They just get decimated in these incidents.
Prior to the Constitution, the Articles of Confederation gave all the rights of taxation to the states and the Fed Government could not even raise an army. It was the "founding fathers" realized that a weak federal government would not work. They replaced the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution to resolve that problem.
If the Libertarians think that the founders knew best, well OK.
The whole fucking point of the constitution was to have a strong federal government that could hold states in order. If they didn't a fucking federal government, they wouldn't have gone through all the fucking effort to draft one of history's most important documents. The federal constitution actually did away with laws that the states had which were counter to the federal constitution. Things like religious tests, for example, were removed from state constitutions.
2021: this aged well
There appears to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere
At least people like this guy
Sam is no better.
so if a person owns there own body these libertarians would be pro choice right .
Well, if you're only free because you own yourself, and you can do anything you like with your own property, then you should be able to sell yourself.
Therefore, Libertarianism endorses slavery.
devourerofbabies slavery would be selling some one else i think but with your train of thought shouldn't the be in favor of legalized prostitution
When someone tells me they don’t believe in global warming, I immediately tune out. If a person is willing to ignore that much data just so they don’t have to admit they’re wrong, then how in the hell could anyone ever have a constructive conversation about anything with them?
I'm in Ottawa. He references Canada...yes, it was cold, but...we just had massive floods and the summers have been hotter than on record. On Canada Day in Ottawa (Canada's capital) it was so hot hardly anyone came out...over 40C.
Fecking hell, this is like listening to a radio station in Grand Theft Auto.
“ I’ve got news for you chief”
This man fathered a meme and didn’t even know it
"James from the South!" - I knew what was coming after that.
Sam can't hold a candle to a well versed libertarian. He's just being a snarky, smug, condescending bully.
I truly don't know how Sam can do this. The patience of this man is outstanding.
This is the same guy that said slavery was ok for alabama and complained about lightbulbs. Either a troll or someone they had call the show.
"Alcohol needs to be legalized and taxed just like any other drug out there!"
"Hi. I'm James. I'm an idiot from the South and I'm going to prove it for all the world to see in you radio show."
How about, "I'm Sam, and I'm a condescending liberal pushing my weight around to feel smart and superior."
"i get the feeling a restaurant like that would do rather well in your community James" LMFAO
This guy probably went to the Capitol on January 6th.
Imagine thinking being southern is a race 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"We can't enslave them." Sounds like he wants to enslave them.
That Obama impersonation had that dude SHOOK
"You can't listen to these government scientists, you need to only listen to scientists who are paid by industry groups with a clear and massive conflict of interest in the research"
"Private scientists" lmao
Why is america still having this debate? Like seriously
Same guy calls several times.
Same voice
His name isn’t James
Or Charles
Or Chaz
why do callers always think that a hardline connection is the one thats dropping when theyre calling in on a cellphone :/
12:45 "Oh, I SEE what you are doing here! You're trying to make me educated and logically consistent!"
His arguments didn't age well. Will check back in 10 years to make sure.
"Tide goes in, tide goes out and you can't explain that."-William O`Reilly
I've watched a bunch of these videos & every single caller has the exact same voice & attitude lol
Because it’s mostly all the same group. Young, white, middle class males who listened to to many libertarian youtubers or have a fetish for ayn Rand
I lose it when he didnt "feel" like 35% was enough and that it had to be over 50%, arent these guys all about facts over feelings?
One of the most epic ones. And it’s amazing how fast he was on his heels when Sam asked if owner of restaurant allowed to discriminate based on skin color to suggest “of course you could discriminate, let’s say, white customer”. He was stupid the whole time, but for that he was noticeably alert and prepared. I wonder why.
I literally started feeling sick around the 19:20 mark and it just got worse... Oh man...
That guy just said that slavery is wrong unless you agree to it. I love libertarians
Libertarian phones. Gotta love it.
7 years later and this video is still so funny 😁
Michael's Obama impression was so good hahahaha
Q: Why will libertarians never accept the notion of global warming, no matter how logical the arguments for it are and no matter how much evidence for it gets amassed?
A: It entails an assumption that things that you do could affect the lives of other people. This is unacceptable to libertarians who claim the right to do whatever the fuck they want.
I'm coming to you from 7 years in the future when the weekend weather on the Pacific Coast is over 110F.
Ice age is coming soon, climate always changes 😑1 scientist said so
I wish I could travel to a better world/dimension/reality...
Did he say Canada was colder than Mars? Is he serious? Really seriously serious?
Brooooo Michael’s cackle will never get old. 😂😂😂😂
he pushed the goalposts so far they came back around
AGW can't be real because it conflicts with the jesusfreemarkets!
AGW isn't ral because it contradicts physical science.