Funny thing too is the GE's of equivalent power redline at abound 1050 RPM if I remember correctly. But they're 4 stroke so they sound like they're going slower!
@@BenjaminEsposti bear in mind GEVO engines have quite a bit more displacement for this reason. A 2 stroke will always have a better power to weight ratio than an equivalent four stroke of the same displacement as a result of two power strokes per single four stroke cycle with a single power stroke and one exhuast stroke. Though thanks to the much higher expansion ratios acheived in four stroke, the efficiency is tremendously higher. It's all about trade offs. Here it's about power density vs carnot efficiency.
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife.... Actually, The power to displacement ratio is Much higher than on comparable output 4 cycles (as You, pointed out), regardless of overall displacement. You have to consider (which 95%+ of "laypeople" do Not) also, that on these engines, the actual Power stroke is just slightly HALF, of the overall stroke length, before the exhaust valves begin to lift and scavenging begins. They produce (basically) the same output numbers (hp/torque) as the 4 cycles... on generally 33% Less, Total engine displacement. Also, I'm NOT "directing" this comment/reply, to yourself (SDofCL), as much as I'm "adding" to yours for the benefit of those who do not really understand the subject..... as "abbreviated" as our comments are, in comparison to the whole.
the v16 EMD's are the best sounding prime mover to ever hit the rails. That engineer doesn't waste any time putting the "pedal to the floor" and tearing out of there. Nice good sound depth too. Good recording. That rumble is just lost on a lot of videos. Hard to catch but for me it's the soul of these things.
EMD engines just OWN all other prime movers!!! 4-strokes are ok, but they chug like a washing machine that's out of balance. God I love EMDs! I just hope caterpillar keeps their engines out of them. It would just make me cry to see them get rid of 2-strokes engines! I could listen to these all day long. My only complaint on these later model 710 engines is they muffle them a little too much for my liking. The 645s exhaust was less restrictive. A 710 engine w/645's plumbing = HEAVEN! Damn EPA !!
I know this is a 5 years old post, but I would like to point out that 2-stroke engines cannot be fuel efficient and make low carbon emission in their combustion cycle. Like it or not, 4-stroke is going to be mainstream for the upcoming Tier 4 regulation. But then again, still in many other countries, that 2-stroke EMD 710 would probably still the star of EMD's lineup. As well as their legendary reliability. So don't think the 2T will see going away anytime soon.
@@Xyb3rTeCh the entire concept of 'tier 4' emissions regulation is a fraud. Air pollution levels in the US are at 'background' , ie pre-industrial levels now, and have been since the early 90's. Cleaner and cleaner engines will have NO EFFECT on air quality whatsoever. The rationale is that it's being done on 'principal'.
@@jimrennison1 You're right on target, a big con job! Plus, Class 1 train traffic in the US is at an all-time low while trucks clog up every highway in sight, and they want to talk about the environment? It's all one huge scheme to boost trucks, the big wigs in the EPA, truck companies, and more don't care about the environment. We're all being screwed thanks to their evil greed.
I can't stop coming back to this video. The sound of an EMD 710 is just the most memorable diesel engine song to me, with it's high-revving jet engine sound (I know, EMD 2-cycles predate jet engines) and deep thunderous rumble. Long live EMD!
This is definately one of the best EMD demos. Earth shattering vibrations on notch up then the sound of the Auxiliary fan and Turbocharger no full notch. That howling sounds so badass.
Its an amazing sound to hear through your device, but to live it in person is a whole different story. When you are there you can feel that rumble course through your insides and if you're near a metal structure, it may even give it a good rattle just by passing by.
Imagine working on a tugboat with 2 EMD 645-20 E7B's working full ahead @ 800rpm - it's like having 2 locomotives in your living room! Crowley built 25 "INVADER" Class twin-screw 140' deep water line-haul tugs at McDermott in Morgan City, LA. in the 70's with twin EMD 645-20 turbos. These were the finest long haul tugs in the world at the time. We towed 450' x 100' oil barges with crude from Valdez to Seattle, The Bay Area, and Long Beach constantly with these great boats.
You should live where I do and then you'd hear beautiful GE 4-stroke/cycle music all day long and you'd love it. Hard to compare a 2-stroke/cycle with a 4 stroke/cycle as well. The GE's sound beefier but quieter than the typical EMD 710 fare when they're coming up the hill by my house and that's the sound of a lot less #1 diesel being expended. A real treat for me is hearing the rare turbocharged 645E3 go by. I grew up on Dash-2's and I sure miss them.
@megs905 They are not necessarily in Notch 8. All EMD's with 710's rev up to full rpm's as soon as you hit Notch 6. Then after about 15-20secs if the throttle hasnt been increased, they idle back down to Notch 6. You will hear that happen around 2:25 as they idle down.
An EMD 710 would be awesome down here in New Zealand. Unfortunately they probably wouldn't fit into our trains. We use EMD G18C and G22AR models down here, built by Clyde Engineering in Australia. The G18s used to use the 567 series but were then retrofitted to use the 'blown 645 seires. The G22s initially used a blown 645 but then converted to a turbo when NZR realised they needed more grunt. At Notch 8 they sound spectacular and man are they loud!
Awesome!! that is music to my ears!! I've been a huge EMD fan for years. Nothing beats the sound of turbo 645!! If you catch some SD40-2W doing the same thing...UPLOAD!!! Cheers, WCR
Very cool yeah! For those who like 645s turbocharged, check the Metra MP36PH-3S. Since the prime mover drives a huge alternator for HEP, and HEP power is generated from 3rd notch and up, the sound has more lower frequencies than the F40PH (screamer) having to stay at high speed for HEP. Enjoy!
TheTheratfarmer Actually, a 16-710 produces 4300 horsepower at the crank. A GEVO-12 produces 4400 at the crank with a quarter less jugs. The 1010J looks interesting, though - 4600 horses at the crank with twelve jugs.
mrbillmacneill It's either headed toward Prince Rupert or Vancouver. Next home terminals going west are Prince George and Fruitloops, and crews trade off halfway between those - so either Blue River or McBride.
I hear ya. The SD60s seem to have the best unrestricted 710 sounds. You can hear the turbos whining on them at notch 8 which you don't seem to get as much on the newer SD70s
At notch eight she sounds like the 071 class loco that we have here in Ireland. They're used on freight mostly but they also serve other duties when needed.
Check out 36 thousand horses.m4v! on youtube It is about the Rogers pusher terminal in BC when Cp Rail used up to 12 SD40-2 locomotives to push west bound trains up the east side of the Selkirk mountains so they could go on their own through the connaught tunnel!! You will enjoy it!!!
The rumbling noise is from the engine, the white-noise and whining sounds are from the turbo, and also some of the white-noise sounds are from the cooling fans. I don't think the traction motors are loud enough to be heard over the engine noise.
Love it....the EMD 2-cycle sound was always one of the best. There is always a preponderance of loud fan (or turbo blade) humming with 710's...what gives. Still give the edge to a trio of unmuffled SD-40's storming up Keating Summit, but I'll surely take this. Five stars.
If you like the turbo 645, then you should have a look to my CN532 (at 4:30) or my CN 534 (2:32) videos. I think you will like my video "NSB Di4 ..." too. There you can see a loco, Germany built for Norways state railway. It's powered by the 16-645 E3B prime mover.
@UP5140SD70M I like the sound of a good GE chug, and they seem to have more of a personality than EMD. I'm not saying that because im a GE fan, but they just do.
This is one of the best EMD videos I've ever seen! That 710 sure sounds awesome!
710 is best of locomotive's engine
this too tczcams.com/video/N3VjUp9oz8o/video.html
So even this 1:-
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Dheeraj sir, I wish you would find one EMD in India that accelerate like this🙂😊
No🎉
POWER.
This is power.
EMD IS POWER; BAR NONE.
What exactly does that mean?
@@douglasskaalrud6865 2 stroke diesel power
You're almost waiting for a rod to spit out the side at that sort of RPM, but they take it all day long with ease. These are proper monsters!
Reflex Photography NZ spunds like hi rpms but only about 1000 granted huge crank and pistons so thats alot
Redline is 900 RPM on a 710
Funny thing too is the GE's of equivalent power redline at abound 1050 RPM if I remember correctly. But they're 4 stroke so they sound like they're going slower!
@@BenjaminEsposti bear in mind GEVO engines have quite a bit more displacement for this reason. A 2 stroke will always have a better power to weight ratio than an equivalent four stroke of the same displacement as a result of two power strokes per single four stroke cycle with a single power stroke and one exhuast stroke. Though thanks to the much higher expansion ratios acheived in four stroke, the efficiency is tremendously higher. It's all about trade offs. Here it's about power density vs carnot efficiency.
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife.... Actually, The power to displacement ratio is Much higher than on comparable output 4 cycles (as You, pointed out), regardless of overall displacement. You have to consider (which 95%+ of "laypeople" do Not) also, that on these engines, the actual Power stroke is just slightly HALF, of the overall stroke length, before the exhaust valves begin to lift and scavenging begins.
They produce (basically) the same output numbers (hp/torque) as the 4 cycles... on generally 33% Less, Total engine displacement.
Also, I'm NOT "directing" this comment/reply, to yourself (SDofCL), as much as I'm "adding" to yours for the benefit of those who do not really understand the subject..... as "abbreviated" as our comments are, in comparison to the whole.
no matter how many times I watch this it never gets old! awesome video!
Hearing an EMD rev up sends a rush up my spine every time! My goodness I love it! Long live EMD!
the v16 EMD's are the best sounding prime mover to ever hit the rails. That engineer doesn't waste any time putting the "pedal to the floor" and tearing out of there. Nice good sound depth too. Good recording. That rumble is just lost on a lot of videos. Hard to catch but for me it's the soul of these things.
True Shane.. Same for me too
Not only v16s even v8 710, v12 710 and v20 710 also sound great...
SriVenkat VidyaSubramanian the v12s sounds awesome on the DM/DE30s
@@shawn6970 You must hear the sounds of English Train Class T66 and Class T67. Their V12-710 prime movers sound like jets !!!
@@srivenkatvidyasubramanian6348 True. Even I've heard the sounds of Class 66 and 67. I damn just love their Jet Engine sounds !
EMD engines just OWN all other prime movers!!! 4-strokes are ok, but they chug like a washing machine that's out of balance. God I love EMDs! I just hope caterpillar keeps their engines out of them. It would just make me cry to see them get rid of 2-strokes engines! I could listen to these all day long.
My only complaint on these later model 710 engines is they muffle them a little too much for my liking. The 645s exhaust was less restrictive. A 710 engine w/645's plumbing = HEAVEN! Damn EPA !!
GSkid2000 they wont but sad 2 strokes sound amazing emd gm was a sound ill die missing
I know this is a 5 years old post, but I would like to point out that 2-stroke engines cannot be fuel efficient and make low carbon emission in their combustion cycle. Like it or not, 4-stroke is going to be mainstream for the upcoming Tier 4 regulation. But then again, still in many other countries, that 2-stroke EMD 710 would probably still the star of EMD's lineup. As well as their legendary reliability. So don't think the 2T will see going away anytime soon.
GSkid2000 What junior high school do you go to?
@@Xyb3rTeCh the entire concept of 'tier 4' emissions regulation is a fraud. Air pollution levels in the US are at 'background' , ie pre-industrial levels now, and have been since the early 90's. Cleaner and cleaner engines will have NO EFFECT on air quality whatsoever. The rationale is that it's being done on 'principal'.
@@jimrennison1 You're right on target, a big con job! Plus, Class 1 train traffic in the US is at an all-time low while trucks clog up every highway in sight, and they want to talk about the environment? It's all one huge scheme to boost trucks, the big wigs in the EPA, truck companies, and more don't care about the environment. We're all being screwed thanks to their evil greed.
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly these EMDs build up speed, even with a long train.
Did you guys here the alarm at about 12/13? EMDs so loud they set off alarms!!! Awesome sound. Beats an exploding GE any day!!!
If you have a powerful music or home theater system you will be playing this video over and over.
I can't stop coming back to this video. The sound of an EMD 710 is just the most memorable diesel engine song to me, with it's high-revving jet engine sound (I know, EMD 2-cycles predate jet engines) and deep thunderous rumble. Long live EMD!
I love that kinda ringing sound of the 2 stroke EMD'S
This is definately one of the best EMD demos. Earth shattering vibrations on notch up then the sound of the Auxiliary fan and Turbocharger no full notch. That howling sounds so badass.
That's it baby girl! TAKE OFF AND FLY LIKE THE WIND!
Gotta love them EMD's!
Its an amazing sound to hear through your device, but to live it in person is a whole different story. When you are there you can feel that rumble course through your insides and if you're near a metal structure, it may even give it a good rattle just by passing by.
fantastic sound greatings sweden
This is the best diesel locomotive sound anywhere on youtube. I think I've heard all of them. Man.
Best EMD sound Ever!!
when you here this sound every day. it's not the same as if you here it once in a while.
It's such a sweet sound to hear... Great capture
Imagine working on a tugboat with 2 EMD 645-20 E7B's working full ahead @ 800rpm - it's like having 2 locomotives in your living room! Crowley built 25 "INVADER" Class twin-screw 140' deep water line-haul tugs at McDermott in Morgan City, LA. in the 70's with twin EMD 645-20 turbos. These were the finest long haul tugs in the world at the time. We towed 450' x 100' oil barges with crude from Valdez to Seattle, The Bay Area, and Long Beach constantly with these great boats.
In my humble opinion,the best EMD 710 sound video on You-Tube !
the best sound ever.... you have to love this
2 Years ago I said this is the best on youtube. I still come back once in a while and it still is.
8300HP of 2 stroke lovelyness! An awesome noise for sure!
Man that's a sweet sound!!!!!!!!!I I dare any Ge to sound half as good as that!!!
You should live where I do and then you'd hear beautiful GE 4-stroke/cycle music all day long and you'd love it. Hard to compare a 2-stroke/cycle with a 4 stroke/cycle as well. The GE's sound beefier but quieter than the typical EMD 710 fare when they're coming up the hill by my house and that's the sound of a lot less #1 diesel being expended. A real treat for me is hearing the rare turbocharged 645E3 go by. I grew up on Dash-2's and I sure miss them.
Arizona Rails Emd til the day I die!
Wow!! What is it about that sound. Sends shivers down my spine. thanks for sharing.
@megs905 They are not necessarily in Notch 8. All EMD's with 710's rev up to full rpm's as soon as you hit Notch 6. Then after about 15-20secs if the throttle hasnt been increased, they idle back down to Notch 6. You will hear that happen around 2:25 as they idle down.
My favourite 710 vid on CZcams. Pure awesome EMD power!
I love how it slowly powers up to its loud purr sound at notch 8!
Sound as well as the scene was amazing!
That was FANTASTIC!
Yup, you can just feel all that torque. Amazing.
Oh man i would love to be in that cab and feel that sound. Just awesome.
Sounds like the 645 combined with a jet engine
That this video has under 100k views blows my mind wide open. I sure am glad it showed up in my mentions and I hope it shows up in a lot more.
An EMD 710 would be awesome down here in New Zealand. Unfortunately they probably wouldn't fit into our trains. We use EMD G18C and G22AR models down here, built by Clyde Engineering in Australia. The G18s used to use the 567 series but were then retrofitted to use the 'blown 645 seires. The G22s initially used a blown 645 but then converted to a turbo when NZR realised they needed more grunt. At Notch 8 they sound spectacular and man are they loud!
Reflex Photography NZ Should just be a straight swap of power assemblies, I think.
Great Locomotive nice sound, long fright train in a wonderful nature .ln the background the mountains.🌈🌈👍👍🔅🔆
i love listening to this.
Awesome!! that is music to my ears!! I've been a huge EMD fan for years. Nothing beats the sound of turbo 645!! If you catch some SD40-2W doing the same thing...UPLOAD!!!
Cheers, WCR
Totally unbelivable ,i can not believe that monsterious sound
Very cool yeah! For those who like 645s turbocharged, check the Metra MP36PH-3S. Since the prime mover drives a huge alternator for HEP, and HEP power is generated from 3rd notch and up, the sound has more lower frequencies than the F40PH (screamer) having to stay at high speed for HEP. Enjoy!
Killer audio, love the throttle up.
Such sweet thunder, the most beautiful sound in the world. Thanks.
Bye the way, the 201 Class Locos in Northern and Southern Ireland have 710's.
The EMD 710 prime mover: The very sound of raw, unfettered power. Thank you for uploading this. :D
EMD, they have the power and performance. no other Co. can compete.
I know this comment is old, but if no other company can compete then why does GE have most of the market share?
TheTheratfarmer Actually, a 16-710 produces 4300 horsepower at the crank. A GEVO-12 produces 4400 at the crank with a quarter less jugs. The 1010J looks interesting, though - 4600 horses at the crank with twelve jugs.
Ha keep coming back to this one
@Siglaviking mate check 46000 hp climbs mullan pass. With over head phones on
WOW! Twin 710's from TAKE-OFF to RUN 8! "SEISMIC"!
Man, that EMD 710G3C turbo is whining like hell, it's awesome!
EMD sounds awesome
Pure blood and guts right there
best sounding 710 i`ve ever heard:D
Well done!
@AndreiTupolev Yes but the Class 66s are 12 cylinder, these are 16 cylinder 710s.
thanks very much
Man, they sound like jets!
Wow in Notch 8 listen to the turbo
@AmJaxineer Oh really I never heard a 710 before. Thank you for informing me!
Noooo way hosay!
How is that chug chug chug gona drown out that 710 scream?
I like U-boats etall, but lets keep it real here.
uhhhhhh so goood
sensational!
Cool thanks
Sounds like a fucking beast
WHOA That loud GO EMD GO
That is full throttle at a early start!
one of my absolute favourites.
I was wondering ...its heading to kamloops - is that the next crew change?
mrbillmacneill It's either headed toward Prince Rupert or Vancouver. Next home terminals going west are Prince George and Fruitloops, and crews trade off halfway between those - so either Blue River or McBride.
Muita saudade
i notice a via rail emd f40ph next to the cn rail emd sd70
I hear ya. The SD60s seem to have the best unrestricted 710 sounds. You can hear the turbos whining on them at notch 8 which you don't seem to get as much on the newer SD70s
This sounds exactly like a C5 super galaxy is gonna take off!!
EMD is king.
@theratfarmer V16 710 G3C TII in SD70ace. Oh, and the SD70M-2's like the above!
whats that orange locomotive from?
we have 2 or 3 like them in the sault , from the ski train in denver, cn bought and repainted 2.
Good !
Wow. that is all.
It only sounds like he made it to notch 7. What do you think?
a music to my ears... :)
short horn blow wouldn't hurt, but it's perfect as it is... :)
We Don't need "horn blows".... there's too much of that on YT videos already... we just want to hear "raw power" with no horn blowing. : )
Wonder what that VIA Rail unit is doing there.
At notch eight she sounds like the 071 class loco that we have here in Ireland. They're used on freight mostly but they also serve other duties when needed.
Tristan Doran Because those use the same family of engine and rolled off the same line, hah.
people in the uk are seeing this!!!!!!!!!!!exceptional isn't it
Cool VIA Spidy.
@UP5140SD70M WTF is the problem with gevos, man?
V16?
Yeah, V16, 710 Cubic inch per cylinder.
Jumbo Jet Takeoff !!!
Check out 36 thousand horses.m4v! on youtube
It is about the Rogers pusher terminal in BC when Cp Rail used up to 12 SD40-2
locomotives to push west bound trains up the east side of the Selkirk mountains so they could go on their own through the connaught tunnel!!
You will enjoy it!!!
@theratfarmer V16 710 G3C TII in SD70ace.
Is the sound from the generator, turbochargers, or traction motors?
The rumbling noise is from the engine, the white-noise and whining sounds are from the turbo, and also some of the white-noise sounds are from the cooling fans. I don't think the traction motors are loud enough to be heard over the engine noise.
oh that big diesel loco sounds good! .......I MEAN GOOD!
Love it....the EMD 2-cycle sound was always one of the best. There is always a preponderance of loud fan (or turbo blade) humming with 710's...what gives.
Still give the edge to a trio of unmuffled SD-40's storming up Keating Summit, but I'll surely take this. Five stars.
If you like the turbo 645, then you should have a look to my CN532 (at 4:30) or my CN 534 (2:32) videos. I think you will like my video "NSB Di4 ..." too. There you can see a loco, Germany built for Norways state railway. It's powered by the 16-645 E3B prime mover.
I thought it was the F40PH but it turned out to be an SD70M-2 should have read the description.
@UP5140SD70M I like the sound of a good GE chug, and they seem to have more of a personality than EMD. I'm not saying that because im a GE fan, but they just do.
I have to set the record straight... the pass is called Redpass.
i was expecting the f40ph to move anyway
I knew I wasn't the only one!
Ha yep back again. Cheers
@WestCoastRails What about some good solid 567's. Check the stall on my list.
@UP5140SD70M yeah, SURE! Every time i see a GEVO, its on fire. EMD has its down sides too.
They sound like TF39-1, CF6-50 , CFM56-7 and PW2040...
G. I. G. G. I. D. Y.!!!!!
GEVO12 ,FDL16?!