i was part of the team that tested these 710's. cold start to full power, to full load. in less than 10 seconds. stand right behind two cylinders back and you can feel the rumble. awesome sound. head phones on of course. temp may have been 32 degrees F and they would run this engine at full load for hours and hours. brake load. ... a few seconds, then back to full load. amazing engine 4160 V 3 phase, about 3000 kW at that time.
In the mid 80s I was testing 645s at the DOT facility run by Association of American Railroads, these engines are truly amazing, the connecting rod setup with knife and fork is truly a marvelous design, it wouldn't works as well in a four stroke like the GE, engine, they gave me a power assembly and a 9/16" mechanical injector, the newest ones are computer controlled and use Electronic injection, and they did away with the Woodward governors
@@ChiefCabioch i worked Emd s in boats trains power station As Bs C c 645 710s Alco s I weld and machined on them 35 yrs I know lot of people complaining about the fork rod combo I was the guy who went in afterwards when they kick a rod uselly depending on damage weld up bore lower put in new insert weld up new piston cooling line and bracket fix oil pan door damage uselly 3to 4 days fixed new power pack ready to go with engine s Ge Cat Alco the broken rod still on the crank chewing up stuff ive been on job were they bring in a guy turns the crank rod journal with block on the pan I never got to see this but I herd it was $10,000
EMD are beautiful engines, reliable, easy to work on. a power pack can be changed in 4 to 6 hrs. with a Fairbanks Morse engines it takes 4 days caused by the requirement to pull the upper crank shaft, I know I had to work on them, and there not reliable
@@TacoCrisma The "classic" SD70ACe has this type of engine. The more recent SD70ACe T4 (Tier 4) has a different type of engine, a 4-stroke. I think it is the type 1010 (the displacement per cilinder in cubic innches).
@@TacoCrisma SD70ACE-T4's actually have four stroke 1010J's which were built by Caterpillar.They use different crankshafts and fuel injection compared to the EMD 265H's that they were based on.The SD70ACE's all came with the 710 G3B's. The 265H's were in a handful of SD90MAC H1's & H2's including the SD89MX prototype.Very unreliable. The SD9043MAC's were around before the H motors were even ready for debut.
There once was the Terrex Titan that was titled as the largest dump truck in the world (At the time) and it was actually powered by an EMD 645E3. 645E3's are the same motors found in units such as GP40-2's & SD40-2's.
Brotha this engine is longer than the miata it's self... you gonna have to do the good old cut the car in half and they spray foam and ziptie it back together trick to widen it!
EMD after sales support is ATROCIOUS - 2 new sets of Tier 3 EMD 8 - 710 marine engines smoking at full load in the USA and ZERO support to resolve this. Hit and Run.
The only twenty cylinder motor from the EMD 710 series was the 20-710 G3B EC which was famously used in the SD80MAC's that came from Conrail. The only other twenty cylinder motors were the 20-645 E3's for the SD45's,SD45T-2's,SD45-2's,SDP45's, FP45's,and SD45M's which were unreliable and destroyed crankshafts. All EMD motors are two stroke.The only four stroke motors that EMD built are the 265H's from the SD90MAC H1's & H2's.The same motors were introduced once again but as the 1010J's from Caterpillar in the SD70AH-T4's. Ironically,both units were unreliable. There also was the 210H's which became export motors much like the 265H's that actually were heavily rebuilt given prolonged usage offshore.
Gear driven to a certain rpm than the gears are declutched and the turbo spins on exhaust only. Called super-turbo charging not to be confused with double charging
@@robinjaiswal548 correct because in the uniflow 2-cycle diesel the intake stroke is replaced with super charging and these medium speed motors don't build enough heat and pressure to spin a free spinning turbo at idle
GE is quite literally ALCO since they were acquired by them and the GE 7FDL's were really based on ALCO's 251 series. Which explains in many ways why they aren't mechanically reliable.Even though GE surpassed EMD on technological advancements,EMD always retained their reputation of having the best diesel motors such as the 567,645,and 710 series but just that...Modern EMD units however aren't great,only the motors.
i was part of the team that tested these 710's. cold start to full power, to full load. in less than 10 seconds. stand right behind two cylinders back and you can feel the rumble. awesome sound. head phones on of course. temp may have been 32 degrees F and they would run this engine at full load for hours and hours. brake load. ... a few seconds, then back to full load. amazing engine 4160 V 3 phase, about 3000 kW at that time.
Exactly. The EPA should be sued to non-existence for killing this engine off
In the mid 80s I was testing 645s at the DOT facility run by Association of American Railroads, these engines are truly amazing, the connecting rod setup with knife and fork is truly a marvelous design, it wouldn't works as well in a four stroke like the GE, engine, they gave me a power assembly and a 9/16" mechanical injector, the newest ones are computer controlled and use Electronic injection, and they did away with the Woodward governors
@@ChiefCabioch i worked Emd s in boats trains power station As Bs C c 645 710s Alco s I weld and machined on them 35 yrs I know lot of people complaining about the fork rod combo I was the guy who went in afterwards when they kick a rod uselly depending on damage weld up bore lower put in new insert weld up new piston cooling line and bracket fix oil pan door damage uselly 3to 4 days fixed new power pack ready to go with engine s Ge Cat Alco the broken rod still on the crank chewing up stuff ive been on job were they bring in a guy turns the crank rod journal with block on the pan I never got to see this but I herd it was $10,000
They are still making them for the countries outside the U.S
EMD are beautiful engines, reliable, easy to work on. a power pack can be changed in 4 to 6 hrs. with a Fairbanks Morse engines it takes 4 days caused by the requirement to pull the upper crank shaft, I know I had to work on them, and there not reliable
Cuando se diseñaron estos motores en los 30s se adelantaron 100 anos. EMD tecnología de exelencia.
Best engine ever
TUDO É SIMPLES E PERFEITO..
Art work!
...excellent presentation...
EMD engines rule!
I worked them over 20 years
You now the firing order my friend
PERFEITO
Güzel video
Nice information -
I'll take two❗❣
came here because of WDP4D
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that just proves how reliable they are!! they used some of those designs in their "improved "Alcos too.
This is what the SD70ACe's have
They have the 4 stroke, different engine I thought
@@TacoCrisma The "classic" SD70ACe has this type of engine. The more recent SD70ACe T4 (Tier 4) has a different type of engine, a 4-stroke. I think it is the type 1010 (the displacement per cilinder in cubic innches).
@@hermankoerts8185 ahhhhhh thanks for clarifying!
SD70 MAC as well.
@@TacoCrisma SD70ACE-T4's actually have four stroke 1010J's which were built by Caterpillar.They use different crankshafts and fuel injection compared to the EMD 265H's that they were based on.The SD70ACE's all came with the 710 G3B's.
The 265H's were in a handful of SD90MAC H1's & H2's including the SD89MX prototype.Very unreliable.
The SD9043MAC's were around before the H motors were even ready for debut.
I wand a 600 ton dozer powered by two of these precision masterpieces 😝👌, you know,,, just to play around on 🤠👍✌️
There once was the Terrex Titan that was titled as the largest dump truck in the world (At the time) and it was actually powered by an EMD 645E3.
645E3's are the same motors found in units such as GP40-2's & SD40-2's.
Where can I find the manufacturer's manual?
Marine engine version
aguem de vcs podem me dizer se é possível converter uma maquina dessa pra 100% a gás natural ?
Dizel Motor ITS diesel
Never did like the 710
What's the price of this
Where can I get one to put in a miata?
Brotha this engine is longer than the miata it's self... you gonna have to do the good old cut the car in half and they spray foam and ziptie it back together trick to widen it!
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 I have a welder, and I'm not afraid to use it.
EMD after sales support is ATROCIOUS - 2 new sets of Tier 3 EMD 8 - 710 marine engines smoking at full load in the USA and ZERO support to resolve this. Hit and Run.
and the reason why the railroad world is going to GE.....Shame on you EMD!!!
Dizel motor🤔
Ya
Is 2 stroke ? Twenty cilinders ?
Yes, two stroke cycle. The engine in the video is a 20 cylinder engine (V20)
The only twenty cylinder motor from the EMD 710 series was the 20-710 G3B EC which was famously used in the SD80MAC's that came from Conrail.
The only other twenty cylinder motors were the 20-645 E3's for the SD45's,SD45T-2's,SD45-2's,SDP45's,
FP45's,and SD45M's which were unreliable and destroyed crankshafts.
All EMD motors are two stroke.The only four stroke motors that EMD built are the 265H's from the SD90MAC H1's & H2's.The same motors were introduced once again but as the 1010J's from Caterpillar in the SD70AH-T4's.
Ironically,both units were unreliable.
There also was the 210H's which became export motors much like the 265H's that actually were heavily rebuilt given prolonged usage offshore.
What’s a dizel motor
its a Ditzy diesel!!
Can anyone tell me that emd locomotives turbo is gear driven or both gear and exhaust gas driven
Gear driven to a certain rpm than the gears are declutched and the turbo spins on exhaust only. Called super-turbo charging not to be confused with double charging
You mean at low rpms it is driven by gear and at high rpm by exhaust gas
@@robinjaiswal548 correct because in the uniflow 2-cycle diesel the intake stroke is replaced with super charging and these medium speed motors don't build enough heat and pressure to spin a free spinning turbo at idle
@@admiraltroll5255 Thanks bro very much I was confused since many months
@@robinjaiswal548 no prob man. These engines were really neat and will still pull their weight for decades to come
I just want an end to Diesel smoke.
The trend of rolling coal? Or do you want diesels gone for good?
These tend to smoke *very* little, if at all.
They are *Not* Alcos.
@@dennisyoung4631 an Alco is a different creature...so is a GE, or Baldwin.
GE is quite literally ALCO since they were acquired by them and the GE 7FDL's were really based on ALCO's 251 series.
Which explains in many ways why they aren't mechanically reliable.Even though GE surpassed EMD on technological advancements,EMD always retained their reputation of having the best diesel motors such as the 567,645,and 710 series but just that...Modern EMD units however aren't great,only the motors.
Ha-ha-ha, it have the uniflow scavenging system like big marine engines Sulzer/Vartsila RTA or MAN-B&W MC :-)