How to make fast, sturdy shop shelving.
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2022
- The shop needing shelves, here's how we got it done FAST.
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Honestly, I kinda prefer "shop projects" to doing actual woodworking in there! Less thinking, less pressure if you screw up, and I enjoy making the shop a nicer place to work.
I’ve heard them called, “little wins,” by a smart fella named Phil Huber. Those little wins between difficult projects are a big deal. Keeps you going.
TBH, for me there is little difference between the two because I am a god given princess, and this shoemaker's imaginary daugthers don't go barefooted, au contraire :v
@@louisvictor3473 Yeah, you’re something alright! 🙄😂
yeaah im guilty of doing too much "working on the shop" and not enough "working in the shop"
@@myrimu9829 Always something to do before you do the thing you went out to do... Clean a tool. Put things away that are an extra step to put away. Small tasks.
I actually enjoy watching (and often doing) shop enhancement projects the most. Because it's always useful.
Increase in structure is always a favourite
If there is ONE thing I've learned it's that you can NEVER have too many shelves, and most often, due to lack of shelves, a lot of stuff is put on the floor and stays there for WAAAAY too long, so you might as well take those double's and build some more shelves right away, future you is gonna thank you ;)
Ha! True
I have so much stuff, I need to make my walls out of shelves!
Same
Who let you in my garage?!
Exactly
"There are no straight lines or right angles anywhere in this building...." I felt this in my soul. I helped a friend renovate a shop from a flowershop to a book store, and yeah. That was the conclusion we came to very quickly. Old buildings amiright?
Made almost the same type of shelves for my garage 20 years ago, they are like new. Used 8 foot 2x4's and 8 foot 2x2's and bolted everything together. Leveled everything after standing the shelves the shelves between the garage door track and the wall. 16 foot long and never used a saw; lumber yard cut the 4x2 plywood for the shelves.
I appreciate you sharing your experience and your honesty on how intimidating/challenging you find certain things. Not that you need my validation, but I know you can and have done great things. It helps us newcomers know that you don’t always have to be perfect/easily handle difficult tasks. Thank you.
About twenty years back I worked for a very small company, we were just three people. Thing is we needed shelves and they had to be large and very sturdy. I suggested we'd just buy some pallet shelving. It's modular and very strong, but the owner wanted to build the shelves to keep cost down. For some reason they got in their head that I knew carpentry so one day I was staring at a pile of lumber and a bunch of huge particle board sheets, and I had no idea where to start. Just to make things better the only tools I had was a handsaw and a hammer. I was told to just nail it together...
Thing is my grandfather was a carpenter who did everything from furniture to build houses. He taught my father who managed to impart some rudimentary knowledge to me. Though I really would have liked to screw things together I did manage to nail together stable shelving that impressed me. Well not the look, but the strength and durability. Though the first weeks I came to work expecting it to have collapsed during the night.
It was used in it's original place for perhaps five years. Each shelve easily able to take a load of at least five hundred pounds with no sway, wobble or sagging. Then it was moved down into the basement and kept there for another ten years. Not a nail working lose or anything even after disassembling and reassembling it for the move. And all done free hand with minimal tools and really nothing put to paper. However when we moved it downstairs I did reinforce a few joints using deck screws. Even if it hadn't worked lose after five years of constant use I didn't like the idea of trusting nails. Especially after I discovered that I was the only one of us who understood anything about how to nail something together so it wouldn't work lose immediately.
But yea, it was pretty intimidating just being told to build shelves, and here is some lumber and a hammer...
Good on you for showing your errors. I have a lot of respect for people who are honest that they're human.
First, it's heartwarming to see a woodworking guru (you are , you know) make a goof like the double shelf parts. That's something that I would do. Second, building shelves IS boring and not creative. I would also say that EVERY project is an opportunity to practice whatever part of the craft you're working in. I've made my share of shelves and made my share of goofs. However, my last project was replacing the polycarbonate roofing over our porch. Every one of my past goofs was in the back of my mind as I did the job and I can look up at the result and smile ~ this time. Keep up the good works Rex. Every video is great!
I really appreciate talking about common mistakes. You’ve got a good vibe
I'm a week away from building shelves in my ship, great timing
Rex you need to research cantilever shelves and make them that way. Those supports in front block to much space. I know that you are going to say they don't but they do. Make them without front supports and then tell me what you think.
If you decide you need a wood-scrap-burning stove for shop-heat, cast a rocket stove and make sure the air inlet can be ducted from the outside, because if the inlet is drawing-in the shop-air, you are throwing away air that has already been heated. The interior passageways of the rocket stove can be made from thin wood, and once the cast walls have hardened, you can "burn out" the wood from the interior passageways.
If you want your acoustic panels to perform better, hang them their exact thickness from the wall. IE if they are 2 inches, hang them 2 inches from the wall, etc. This gets you better mid and slightly better low frequencey control. You will notice a difference
Good tip, didn't know the offset was a contributing performance factor.
@@3frogltd987 Yeah, if you could visualize the soundwaves, you would see them creeping around the back of the panel too. You effectively double the surface area of the interaction. It is especially noticeable with panels that are 4-6 inches as the lows become way more tight and clearly defined. Granted, those thicker panels placed like this eat a lot of real estate but it is necessary for mixing audio in rooms not designed for it. And let's be honest, that is practically all rooms that get used for mixing outside of bonafide studios with purpose built, engineered designs. Cheers!
The sound has been really tuned much better. It's not flawless of course, but it's youtube-good now. This is perfectly listenable.
A suggestion that I would offer is to install cripples on the legs under each shelf thus reducing the vertical load on the screws. But that's only a suggestion, I tend to overbuild.
I love shop projects more than any other project. I do not know why
5:10 - to those watching, be careful when demolishing any sheet material. Could be asbestos and those things shred your lungs like no tomorrow. Do what Rex does here and have respirators.
Mr. K, you have NO IDEA how tremendously GREAT it was for me to hear about making simple mistakes even when very experienced. Much of the stress of my entire week is leaving me as I type this.
THANK YOU for this reminder. Maybe we all need it on a plaque on the wall.
I think I may have to re design the medieval box bed I plan to make.
Thanks for the honesty about, even pros like you, making mistakes. For a somewhat perfectionist like me, I often talk myself out of doing something in the first place, than the possibility of making a mistake.
Nice to see you and how the shop is progressing. I smiled in recognition of those clay tiles--the foundation of my 1910 house is Natco Hollow Clay Tile, which was made just a couple miles away as the crow flies.
What a perfect timing! Our attic is just finished and I am building a shelf storsge system up there 💪😎
Do you worry about extreme hot/cold cycles destroying what's up there? We've got heaps of attic and almost no storage areas, but I don't want heirlooms destroyed by the massive temperature fluctuations. Is there a solution staring me in the face?
@@SamTheEnglishTeacher The attic is compmetely insulated. No extreme temperatures. Neither hot nor cold 💪😎
Haha, you're funny - I love your sense of humor, your honesty and your presentation! We need a shelf in our garage just like this for not only "garage stuff" but for my canned goods. Thanks so much, I'm looking forward to putting in at least 2 units. Looking forward to viewing your other projects. God bless you!
I found Leftovers of plywood on the side of the road. Each piece was around 4 foot by 1 1/2 foot with a good side on each. ( Birch maybe ) I made shelves out of it and it looks great. Now I have a place to store some of my electronic parts. Thanks for the video.
Ah, yes. Found materials. I've got a couple of 4x8 sheets of construction grade plywood myself at the moment as well as a good sized chunk of cabinet grade that came from the side of the road. Sometimes you get lucky.
@@Bargle5 I got lucky again today 9 pieces of 1/2 inch with white laminate on both sides ( New not used ) 8 foot by 16 inches. Score.
@@DrexProjects Definitely. 🙂
I know what you mean about being "intimidated". I did some work helping out a contractor once on some home projects to learn some ropes, and learned a few things real quick. Most carpentry isn't perfect, don't try to make it that way. Most things that are "18 on center" aren't. Most rooms are not square at all, try measuring your corners sometime and see if the wall angels are true square. But, in his summation.. "Don't jack it up. Do good work, try to make spec everywhere you can, wing some of the stuff that isn't. We're going for sturdy and steady in construction, not pretty". Helped me relax and not worry so much about carpentry and construction. Now furniture builds.... that's a different story still.
Wow, I guess there is hope for me yet. I find things like shelf building to be super easy, because it is so straight forward. 2x4, 3 inch screws, a decent Swanson square, and some time. Your furniture building with hand tools is next level. This was fun to watch your process.
Hey Rex just wanna say thanks for your many ideas and techniques. I'm transitioning from power tools to hand tools and your videos have been priceless! I realized my shop is chaos and looked up shop shelving and your video came up first and I knew I found the only video I needed for my project!
i am happy to see you are still doing videos every video i saw was a year old so great to this one
Rex…. I’ve been rewatching some of your old(er) videos, waiting for this to drop!! Keep it up pal!
O shoot a new Rex video!
As a woodworker and voice actor who is (fingers crossed) going to be moving into a new space at some point in the next few months, I am so *very* much looking forwards to the video on the acoustic panels.
Great work as always Mr. Kreuger.
gotta lay down this comment to let the mighty algorithm know that I like this creator.
Looking forward to that acoustic panel video! 🙂
It's been really neat seeing this creation/evolution of your new shop space! I appreciate your sharing the steps you're taking to make it your space!
Looks like it is really coming along!
Nice, I need a set of shelves in my garage but I've never built one! Great tidbits and confidence to be able to do it too!
Totally hear you on the anxiety - just built my first big shelf for my MIL and made a bracket also. Took a lot longer than I thought it would, but the experience was invaluable!
Hola! 🖐It's great to see your shop building out and growing. Also awesome to see that you are taking on a project you feel is out of your comfort zone. For those of us watching that have never really taken on a project, it inspires and reassures us that yes there may be "bumps on the road", they can be overcome and that should not hold anyone back from just "doing it". Thanks for the video and I'm looking forward to future videos. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
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My shelves are built from a retail store cabinet doors. From this video, I understand how I could put the framework up to avoid twisting. I also find it helpful to put wheels on all of my shelving. That way, if my basement floods, I can shove my shelves around the basement when I clean up.
Screwing up on your own dime is the best way to do it.
You learn your lesson without risking anyone knowing about it... oh, wait. :P
Never built anything like this before, but after watching your video, I am willing to give it a go!
you are punk rock woodworking! Thank You
I really enjoy your video contents because I learn from them. I’m a journeyman machinist and a cabinet maker but I’m still learning from your tricks of the trade! I like your onscreen energetic personality and your honesty and openness, ie. revealing financial costs on your new shop and etc. Plus your an Ohioan and a skip away fron Alliance! Great job my friend!
I'm in the process of building shelves and trying to organize my garage too. A daunting task...but it has been needing to be done for far too long now. I'm finally feeling like I'm making progress, though it's kickin' my a$$ pretty bad. Maybe some day I'll actually be able to get my truck into the garage to work on it (or be able to tackle a woodworking project on my tablesaw!)!
As always I enjoyed the video. Things are moving along. Can't wait to see what you do next.
Been a hot minute since we seen you rex
Great to see you back,
Hope you, the team, and your family are well
I have an extremely small room to use as my workshop, that unfortunately is doubling as a storage room.i need to make shelves so I can get stuff out of boxes. Looking forward to the sound buffering project. My wife needs that in a room she uses as her online work room. Love your video as always.
Like your attitude towards wading into projects you’re not comfortable with doing them. Thanks for the video sir.
Go Buckeyes! Great video, thanks!
Thanks for sharing!!! I enjoyed the video and the progress!
My workshop shelves are very similar to yours - using 3x2s. One addition I made was to notch housing joints in the verticals (speed square and circular saw). The legs are mainly under compression so it doesn’t weaken them too much but it certainly reduces the amount of sideways racking. It also takes a couple of inches off the amount the shelves stick out from the wall. Face to face screw joints under stress will loosen over time, particularly if you move the shelves around. A bit of simple joinery always helps. I might have to put some diagonal braces on the ends but they won’t be too obvious.
Oh man thanks for keeping that mistake in there. I stress out so much about planning things, that it stops me before I've even started and stops me again several times throughout. Good to know I'm not especially bad at this lol just gotta get on with it aye
Nice work. I have never made the mistake of cutting twice as many parts as I've needed, nope, not ever. Well, maybe once or twice 😁
On a serious note, you might want to consider adding a cross brace or two to the back of your shelves, to prevent them from "parallelogramming". It doesn't have to be as heavy as the 2x3 you're using for the framing. Aircraft cable (properly swaged) will work fine.
best shelve video Ive seen
Great job! I don't like throwing out wood that I can use for shop projects. I find doing shop projects as being very enjoyable, even if it's carpentry. I ended up using a couple of sheets of okay-ish plywood for several smaller projects where the quality didn't matter. One sheet ended up as part of a rolling cart for my thickness planer.
Looks good!
Fantastic! I recently had some roofing done. The large pieces came enclosed in cheap wood 2x4, 2x6, and 2 sheets of OSB. The cuts are all straight so I only spent a few hours and made a shelving unit sturdy enough for all of my needed storage. My only suggestion would be to paint or varnish the OSB so it doesn’t catch when you slide things in and out.
Well done!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!! 👍😎
it happens, looks great
Thanks simple and easy
Quick'n'dirty sound panels: wrap 2" thick rockwool (or other mineral wool) bats in burlap. Add a wooden frame around them if you like purty sound panels.
At this point, I'm a rough carpenter. I slapped together an A-frame lumber rack for long boards in ~1 hr last week. I built a standing rack for short boards today. Quick & easy. Cleaned up the back yard a LOT.
Finish carpentry? Intimidating.
Rex, now that you're in your big new workshop, it makes you look lonely somehow. Like you are tiny island in the middle of the ocean. You need a mascot to fill the void!
Mate! This is great stuff
Hey Rex, don't forget to remind your Patreon viewers to come over to YT and boost your views and comments over here too. Have a great week.
I built some shelves for one of my sheds recently, main difference was that my pile of leftover lumber did not have a lot of pieces of the same cross section and nowhere near enough sheet goods. On the other hand, I am mainly planning to store boxes in it so just a few boards with gaps inbetween is fine.
Really excellent work, Rex! And thanks for all the tips! 😃
But yeah, it's weird... It doesn't matter how good your floor is, building things from it... Well, something always end up crooked. 😬
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks!
Storage and mostly optimized storage AND layout is of an extreme importance when you work in an odd shaped 110 sq ft room. The positive part is that you can provide yourself quick access to tools if done properly and you can install the equivalent of a freaking Sun substitute lighting without spending 1000$$$ in shop lighting.
Thank you.
My colleague had a great idea to save money on wood. He fitted out the area under his house (for tool shed + motorbike parking area) using fencing wood. I mentioned wood being extremely expensive when he was talking about his DIY projects and he said "nah that's all the interior structural stuff - nobody's touching the fencing wood".
Thoughts?
Toggle bolts work very good for block walls.
Hey Rex, if you put those acoustic panels on some out riggers allowing about 2-3 inches of space behind them then they will be more effective:)
Nice!
Go Buckeyes!
Would you do a few shop walls with french cleats? It may help with some organization and be quite interesting to see your take on it
Love it
Great build, I always like to build my own, but price of lumber as in 2023 has held me back.. I'm definitely filing this video for future. Thanks.
A cool video idea would be one of you covering a French cleat wall. The one's I've found are not very intuitive, informative, in English, or good production quality.
Almost everything I make is from 2x4s and sheet goods. Mostly because I dumpster dive local construction sites where they absolutely waste enormous amounts of usable materials, so it’s all free. That’s no small thing today, when buying a sheet of plywood requires a selling a kidney.
I was gonna say, measure once cut twice and bam now you have 2 shelves instead of one. Whoever said cutting corners wasn't productive.
You learn as you go. Is that your brother or son helping you?
,a cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…..
Cheap sound improvements very important for many people working from home. Sitting in a (usually) small room with bare walls and ceiling, plus big flat desk and monitors - it can generate a lot of reverberation which makes voices more difficult to understand and can even cause headaches
Rex, this looks like some of my first efforts not too long ago. Glad I am not alone. I did not do that forgotten board splitting before crosscutting but .. I made others... Just as an aside, you ARE going to do something about that damaged window area, right?
Moving into a new shop is overwhelming. I moved all my tools and equipment in without preparation. Now It's a huge, jumbled mess without workbench, workstations, or organization.
I'm drowning.
I'm more than a week away but I will also need shelving in the near future. But that is the most simplistic. What I will also need is lumber storage. But I don't need the kind that goes against the wall. I need a smaller version of what you see at many lumber yards. Basicly cubby holes that you slide the boards into from the front. But I cannot seem to find drawings for this type. Any suggestions? Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
heeeeeey.
I see a langdon mitre setup.
You still have the saw also?
I love mine.
I don't like the fact that this design puts all the weight on the fasteners. But there's an easy fix: put extra 2x4 vertical supports from the floor to the first shelf and from the first shelf to the second shelf, etc., so that all the weight is on the supports in compression.
Totally cool! Why were your first set shorter than the run you had? The second set were lovely Rex.
Now, until watching you I didn’t know there were types of woodworker, yes I knew some you seemed to focus on certain jobs but that was as far as it got. So Rex what are the sectors please?
Bob
England
Happy New Space mate, I'm delighted for you and not even remotely jealous at all, noooo. But; fabric sound baffles in a workshopshop??! In your YT editing suite, yeah, but in the shop?? I may be wrong, but even with the best dust extraction, that's asking for trouble IMFHO. Look forward to you flipping me off in 10 years' time. Cheers.
Interesting project. Nice change.
I'm curious why you bothered to scribe shop shelves. I mean if it was a significant difference, like ½ an inch or so, cool, but, otherwise, why not cut them straight and silicone caulk the gaps or just leave them... They're shop shelves after all...
Rex ; ....hope you like this idea ...... a ' Flat Pack ', (stand alone) , soft wood , shelf unit...supported with (shop built), 'cleaver' , OVER-SiZED, wood castors ?
Clever. Simple. That wall though I hope that the truck just hit the window (unlikely, I’m afraid) and that the wall is stable.
Hey Rex, nice to see you back again.
Greetings from germany,
Marcus
p.s.: My wife says, Brandon is hot, and she asks if he will be on the channel in the future. 😉
I’m finally building the low workbench. Shop projects for me until I have enough skill to not cut myself with the plane iron. (Totally did not happen today 🤔)
I built a worktable and shelves for my garage, from pallets, and had so much fun I need to build more, I've bought tools, found some hand planes to restore and ended up at a junk seller and bought about a hundred pounds of screws for twenty dollars! What m I going to do with all those screws?