Make Sure You Do This With Your Trailer!
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Brentley Summers shows us why it is so important to use your stabilizers and how you can make your own if you don't have any on your trailer!
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I'm a retired CDL and forklift operator. I've transported many forklifts on pintle hitch and gooseneck trailers. On one job I was driving an F750 with a Fleming equipment trailer that had electric trailer brakes. I unloaded my lift and dropped the lumber at the jobsite. My truck was facing slightly down hill and when I started loading the forklift back onto the trailer, it lifted the back of the truck up just enough to break traction and my truck started rolling down the hill. Made for a bit of a wild ride. ALWAYS chock your wheels if you are on ANY incline! If your pickup truck is not locked into four wheel-drive, it can get away from you before you know it.
Never unload/load on hills inclines/declines etc....... You suppose to always find a level ground. Just sayin.
Had it happen to me once. Shit my pants.
@@kfelix2934
Never?
Always?
Inexperienced guys often tell on themselves by using absolutes.
You should have realized that this would happen. Never load or unload equipment on a slope or incline.
@@MentalCatalyst I have over 34+ years of transporting items inover 4 continent military, and post military. Also have a CDL for nearly 24 years. Yes I'm inexperience for whatever that means,
I you follow any trailer load guides you would know you support to load on level grounds.
Someone needs to tell these trailer manufactures their ramps are to short. There's no way you'll get a zero turn mower on that tandem trailer without dragging the deck.
I was thinking the exact same thing. My compact tractor with the front mount blower would get stuck on that first one .
Exactly.
Yep, that trailer is useless.
Not only the ramp issue, but why are the duals not centered in the trailer?
@@greenidguy9292you lose tongue weight the further forward the axle is making it dangerous. Trailer swaying is not a fun day.
@@offroad6309 I get that however they loaded towards the tongue which was likely a bad example being the trailer was loaded at half capacity.
Good points, maybe you need to expand on this for the less commercial guys to include the importance of load position on tongue weight and trailer leveling for towing vehicle stability.
We will be shooting that video shortly, should be released in 6-8 weeks
Even the "Commercial" guys don't have a clue most of the time.
@@HuckabonesEquipment
Try using a trailer that is actually functional to begin with!
The tailgate/loading ramp is 2” inches off the ground before the tractor even touches the trailer!
That demonstration is complete and utter garbage!
When you lower those stabilizing braces, nothing with less ground clearance will ever load on that trailer!
@@wildbill23c
There’s a huge difference between “commercial” drivers(CDL holders) and professional CDL drivers!
It doesn’t take rocket science to see that this trailer was built improperly before it left the factory!
As a former professional CDL driver, I’d never even attempt to load any equipment on that trailer without detachable ramps!
There’s no way in hell I’m rolling up on a tailgate/loading ramp that’s 2” off the ground!
That absolutely asinine!
Should mention to chock trailer tires so when that stack of wood falls over, the truck won’t roll away.
That's great, however, I can't recall ever seeing stabilizing jacks on the rear of any "hauling type" trailer. Now I'll be looking at every trailer I see. lol.
PJ trailers offer them as well.
I always carry blocks for the trailer. But I also chock two tires on the pickup.
Simple and to the point. All learning videos should be this short and to the point.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I ordered a couple of RV Trailer slide out stabilizer jacks that I adapted to fit under the frame of my 6x12 single axle trailer. I plan on using them when I load and unload my side by side to take the load off the coupler and ball. They are adjustable for height. I added a small piece of wood on the channel rest so the steel didn’t scratch the trailer frame. This video will sure show how a heavy load will lift the rear of the truck off the ground! Great video it will give a lot of guys second thought about loading without rear support on the trailer!
Thanks for watching and commenting
Honestly I like when the back of the trailer does squad as it makes it easier to load equipment.
Have you ever used a tilt deck? Thats the way to go if you can swing it. They're kind of expensive.
I made some stabilizers for my 5' x 8' utility trailer and have used them for years. However, I did not do this for my 16' tandem axial trailer and over the years of loading a 3500 lb tractor the trailer has several broken and cracked welds from the stress that has been put on it. I've bought a second tandem axial trailer and have been looking to add these stabilizers to it because the ramps don't have the foot to support the rear of the trailer. Great video and looking forward to the load position and leveling video.
stabilizer jacks of the 80s was dad giving me the nod to grab the 6x6 and assorted limber to shove under the back of the trailer. They were universal. Usually got a sip of his beer and the other nod which meant dont tell your mother.
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I noticed that you didn't raise the lift arms on back of tractor and they were dragging the ground.
3 point arms will lift freely and cause no impediment in loading. I agree they should be raised.
I work at a tractor dealership in Louisiana. I see it on a regular basis, someone trying to either load or unload a tractor on a trailer. So worried about whats in front of them instead of whats behind them. Always letting something drag behind them.
Thank you for this information.I did know about this problem beforehand,but I’ll install the jacks on the trailer for a safer loading,thanks.👏👏👏👏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🍺🍺🍺🍺☮️
Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.
Thanks, you too!
Is it just me or should that mower been backed on to the trailer? To me, it looked like there was too much weight hanging behind the axle of the trailer. I don't think that would have told very well.
I was thinking the same.
Towed
You are correct. With a front end attachment, backing in puts the cg in a better position to make sure you have adequate tongue weight for the given load.
Too much tail weight makes for a zig-zag ride.
They aren’t very smart…look at that short ramp!
I have a single axle and use it for pool heat pumps mostly. I found some thrift store jack stands (15$) and a scissor jack (7$) worked great to stabilize when loading, especially if the truck is detached for any reason (loading for dump runs in my case) I have a tool box at the front with a winch inside and all the accessories in it to keep it all handy. The jack is nice for spare tire changes and un pinching the jack if needed.
Thanks for sharing
Good info. I got a friend that was loading his skid steer and down the hill he went. Truck, trailer, skid steer and him. Went about 100 yards and crashed into the trees. That's a hard lesson.
Oh wow!
A mistake a lot of people make with a skid steer is they drive it on facing forward most of the weight on a skid steer is on the back so normally to get proper weight distribution you need to back the skid steer on so most of the weight is on the front of the trailer, not the back of the trailer
@@ralan350 My friends mishap was 100% caused by not blocking the rear of the trailer. He got about 2/3 of the way on and that lifted the tongue and truck's rear end off the ground and away they all went.
Put it in 4x4 and set parking brake helps truck from rolling, if not on level ground.
Thinking about your friend's experience, I think I'll start putting wheel chocks on the front tires of my truck in addition to using blocks under my trailer
I like the" feet" stabilizer built into the ramp
Awesome video - good stuff to know...🥃
Glad it was helpful!
Have you addressed weight distribution hitches and or sway stabilizers yet ?
2 4x4's cut about 18" long work awesome.
My boss screwed up one time while loading a mini excavator onto a trailer. He was on a slight hill facing down and when he got up the ramps,the rear wheels of the truck lifted off the ground and because he only had the parking brake on and no wheel chocks,the truck took off down the road heading for some new homes being constructed. He tried digging the bucket into the road to slow down but that clearly wasn’t going to work so he jumped off the trailer. The truck hit some concrete barriers and jack knifed the trailer enough to stop before it hit anything. He was scared shitless and told the crew to take the rest of the day off.
Does not sound like a great day for your boss, thanks for sharing & watching
Really great common sense tips. Safety First! Ben
You bet!
Great video educating trailer owners!. After being in construction all my life I made that mistake I loaded my skid steer up lifted the tires off the ground and started rolling down the drive, I got the loader off and the truck stopped but that had to be hard on the park pin in the transmission!. Since every trailer I own has stablelizers on the rear.
Glad it was helpful!
So is the Toyota the top choice for a 3/4 ton truck?
Oddly enough I have never hired of this all my time working at farms and construction companies but, rarely did we ever use anything like a baby tundra to anything. we were moving Case articulated, implements, solid and liquid ferts.
Good lesson. My friend was loading a car on a trailer with the tow vehicle facing down hill. He got about half way up, the drive wheels lifted off the ground and the whole rig rolled down hill accross a road and down an embankment totalling the car and the front of the tow vehicle. That is a mistake you make only once. Hope this video prevents someone from getting hurt.
Sorry to hear that, hopefully the video helps a few people
Great video, would have liked seeing a discussion on load placement. Too far forward can be hazardous.
Great point! Thanks for watching
Very honest good video❤
Thank you 😊
You could also use jack stands, less costly than welded on stands. !!!
Was there a trailer in the video? Beautiful Kubota snow package.
I use jacks, so that once the machine is loaded the jacks can be wound down and removed. Saves having blocks of wood or pins stuck.
:) Good information - mentioned having space for trailer squat of loaded trailer. The demo showed indirectly clearance problems at ramp for attached implements, can really tear some stuff up getting on and off if ramp too steep. Would need a lot more time to cover all trailering points. Interesting comments posted.
Thanks for watching, there are more trailer tips videos in the works. be a couple per month posted to the channel
Just a trick I use to gauge having my load to far forward or not forward enough. My trailers are an 18 foot 14K Big Tex Equipment and a Diamond C 22 foot over axle 15K trailer. For both trailers I have a 4.x 12 block of wood I had Line-x coat for durability. I use this block of wood since it only allows the trailers to squat a few inches on the rear. I also lower my tongue jack and leave it off the ground to let me know I have the load forward enough to have the correct tongue weight. By lowering the tongue jack, if the load is to far forward and the jack is touching the ground I can easily shift the weight back a little, and also vice a versa.
Thanks for the information, nice trailers
Am wanting a 16’ 7’ wide dump trailer I think that is the Swiss Army knife of trailers deck over
Said it quickly at the end but to me it is the BIG reason to stabilize the rear of your trailer. The rear of the truck could be lifted up and the whole thing could be a run away trailer especially on a hill or wet grass.
Perfectly loaded
I have a compact John Deere tractor with a bucket. I believe it weighs around 1800lbs. I haul it on a 7000lb capacity tandem axle 6’x12’ steel bed trailer. I carry 2-2ton jack stands and place them under the trailer corners to prevent the trailer lifting up on the truck while loading/unloading.
Yes- My method too- I also use the jack stands to support the trailer when unloading sand or topsoil, usually I will haul 2 yards at a time- If you you use this method, tho, be sure your supporting surface is solid- concrete of a heavy 2X10 board- or the stands may disappear into the mud, the truck will lift and roll, and you are back in the soup. But it works very well indeed for small projects. My trailer is a heavy 16' lowboy by the old Trailer Wheel and Frame Company. with 18" sideboards on it. I have used it for over 25 years on the homestead- It has hauled my old 8N until it was lost in Hurricane Harvey, and later my compact Ford1715, and everything from furniture to soil, to logs, to construction material and equipment, to kids on a Hayride- I tell my friends that there is nothing you can't do with a tractor/front end loader. My place is nice, my home is nice; my friends and relatives look at me like I'm crazy for undertaking the projects that I do. Their choice. They should just watch TV in their apartment.
great way to do, very simple and safe
Forgot to add- Be sure you put the front tongue jack down too, so you don't overload your truck hitch by the load being too far forward.
Yes gates are to short, had to make mine longer. ( Welded)
EVEN WITH THE LIGHTER ALUMINUM TRAILER, USING A TUNDRA TO TOW THAT TRACTOR IS BORDERLINE FOR ME.. I ALWAYS LIKE MORE TRUCK FOR TOWING...
Good info.
Thanks!
Good info, a set of jack stands may work too.
We loaded a JD tractor on a trailer and it didn't have stabilizers at the back, it lifted the Tundra off the ground about 6". Luckily the ground was flat and it towed it ok, but not great. The best trailers for transporting these machines are dual axle equipment haulers rather than utility trailers.
Thanks for the info!
Looks like the trailer would trail better backing the tractor in to get more weight on the front of the trailer.
Question can you please explain why the state of Indiana is putting 9k license plate on a 7k trailer and 11k plate on a half ton truck.
Money money money and more money.
I always put my truck in 4x4 when I'm loading an unloading
Do you guys sell Orange Line trailers?
They're essentially just Big Tex trailers rebranded so you can finance them with a Kubota machine but we just can't move them at all for some reason. I'm so used to seeing stacks of them that when I go to other dealers, it looks weird without half assembled trailers lying around
We carry the Kubota K-Haul line up which is made by Weberlane in Southern Ontario
I wonder if it's a local thing that changes depending on where the dealer is. Never would have thought about it like that
I just position a bottle jack under the rear frame of my single car hauler trailer, works great.
simple & safe, great way to go
Fitted my beaver tail flatbed with hand crank jacks
thanks for watching and commenting
The bigger issue here is towing all that weight with a 1/2 ton truck. Nothing against a Tundra but it wouldn't be my first choice for hauling heavy machinery around. 3/4 ton or better!
@james3532 : In response to your comment about using a 1/2 ton truck.... As long as it is in the factory tow rating weight rating spec, it is ok. The are other factors. Look at this example: My 1996 1/2 ton F150 has a greater tow rating than its Ford 3/4 ton counterpart of the same year, engine and trans combination. Ford deducts the curb weight difference of the heavier 3/4 ton's curb weight vs the 1/2 ton's from the tow rating of the 3/4 ton. That makes the 3/4 ton spec'd less in regard to tow rating in this case. The payload (weight on the truck) on the other hand, yes the 3/4 ton would be a better choice. ....and BTW that Tundra in the video has a greater tow rating than either of the Fords in my example.
What are the thoughts on whether or not brakes are required on the trailer? I'm hauling a BX2680 on a single axle trailer rated at 3,500 lbs.
A trailer with brakes is always the best option,especially with a lighter pickup.Youd be better off with a small tandem with brakes,way safer.
Check your local regulations. In Ontario trailer brakes are required once the gross weight of the trailer/load exceeds 3000lbs.
@@northeasterndirtandpropert7974I upgraded my tandem car hauler to 4 wheel brakes, after two failures with brakes on just one axle. Strongly recommend it for all tandems, and the conversion was not that expensive.
i was going to comment that it did not look like there was enough tongue weight. Insufficient tongue weight and the trailer will start to oscillate as you go above 40 mph. pull it further forward.
good point about the stabilizer blocks!
watch for a new video on the importance of proper tongue weight, out soon
Chock the steering axle of the truck, no stabilizers so you can lower the center of gravity when the rear wheels are on the rear of the trailer coming on or off. Put your front end loader on the floor of the trailer on and off to lighten the front axle load of the machine you’re unloading. If it’s a dovetail no ramps are needed and get a real truck would help.
Wow. Amazing difference. 😜
Thanks for watching
You forgot wheel chocks and use a couple small jack stands underneath the rear of the trailer if the trailer didn't come with them.
A pair of inexpensive jack stands works as well as your wood blocks.
great way to do it, thanks for watching
But wood blocks are disposable, relatively easy to get, can be infinitely adjustable, and have many others uses. Plus, if you err in your spacing, you can drive off them without destroying your jack stands.
@@davelee9087 The primary reason I don't like wood blocks for that purpose is because they are disposable. Someone else is likely to see them as scraps and throw them away leaving you looking for something else to prop up the trailer. Nobody is going to unwittingly throw away a pair of jack stands.
@@zone4garlicfarm No, they will just steal them lol...
Big loads should be transported by professionals or those who have successfully to one this many times. Equipment stands very high on the trailer and can easily shift if you don't know how to drive
towing these tractor/trailers.
But you had clearance problems with the jacks deployed.
Oh no! The truck’s suspension raised up a couple inches!
It's only a problem when the rear tires come off the ground. Then the truck can start rolling.
it gets really amplified if unloading on a hill, stay safe
Don't forget forward weight bias.
If you have more than 50% behind the axle it can be catastrophic.
Make sure that the ball on the truck matches the trailer. Don’t ask me how I know.
turns into a tilt trailer pretty quick
@@HuckabonesEquipment
He got lucky because he already made one 15 mile trip with the mismatch.
I love the video of the guy who drives onto the back of the trailer and his truck starts rolling downhill and won’t stop. It’s tragic but it’s exactly what you’re talking about here. He drove the tractor on the way came off the back wheels of the truck, and it started rolling down the hill, truck, tractor and all, and went into a ditch and rolled over the guy bills off into the grass and watches his $95,000 worth of toys getting smashed up because he didn’t put a jack on the back end. I don’t have Jack’s throw crate or these plastic steps. I have under there and does basically the same thing. It just keeps the back end from going down and lifting your truck up, but it can be a big issue. If I’m on flat ground, I usually don’t worry about it too much but it does put a lot of stress on your hitch and the neck of your trailer and the ball and coupler but like that dude on the hill once starts rolling and has some momentum. Even if you drive the tractor forward it’s not gonna stop, it’s probably gonna do a lot of damage if you happen to be unlucky that day
Just for fun, should send that tractor with snowblower down the highway loaded like you did to show us the need for tongue weight!
Great point!
Looks like the single axle couldve been loaded with the machine going on backwards.
Put more weight on top of or in front of the axle.
First time I loaded my 6,000lb bulldozer, I lifted the entire rear of my e350 off the ground maybe a foot, possibly more.
A longer trailer would help out a lot as well. You have a 20 foot machine and a 20 foot trailer And so that gives you no tongue weight whatso ever until you are fully loaded. Also the trailer should be tilted upwards in the front until you are loaded and as you get loaded it should squat the truck down to where it should set perfectly level If loaded correctly
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1st tactor drags the implement and the link arms, clearly a quality dealership.....
noted for the next video
Never hook up a trailer to a Toyota. Those are for going to town for groceries or to Church.
Tundra is the best gas pickup truck ever made, just ask anyone who owns one.
Proudly built by Mexicans, in Texas.
@@jameslovitt994 Key word is GAS. Cause them Tundras love them some gas... lots of it. (just poking fun at ya).
@@davidt-the-mortgage-farmer heavy gas truck, I'm amused at the folks who are surprised at the poor fuel mileage.
@@jameslovitt994 True. Like I said…. Just poking fun.
I heard that tundras are between a half ton and a 3/4 ton but I don’t know enough about the specs to say so. I don’t own one but I never heard anything bad other then fuel mileage.
need wheel chock(s)
the sad part is, most weekend warriors dont have a clue about pulling a trailer.
You should do one on negative tongue weight. Talk about dangerous. I've seen that cause more than a few wrecks
video has been filmed, should see it posted in the next couple of weeks
3 ton Jack stands
people spend alot of money for a tilting deck trailer. Jacks make it even worse approach angle. Skid steers don't like steep ramp.
back the lawnmower on the trailer to add tongue weight
Know someone who died that way. Trying to load a backhoe on a hill with no jacks.
Ok, see that pin in hole jack. That's BS. When the trailer squats after having a heavy load on it, you are not pulling that pin out. There's a good chance when using that you will need to bottle jack up the end of your trailer in order to pull the pin to release the jack in order to lift it. It would be better to have a side wind jack to lower the stabilizers so it's easier to crank it back up once the equipment is loaded. You aren't unloading equipment on even ground all the time, so there is a good chance that one will bind up.
He clearly addressed that in the video...don't pin the legs on the ground.
I'm so conflicted with this comment... cuz he addesses that in the video (as the other reply points out) but you don't see the pin untill after it's addressed so you had to have watched that part in order to get to the part where the pin is shown... like tha fah? How'd you get to the part your calling BS on while missing the fact that it was addressed? That's not even what has me conflicted though, it's that I don't like that part of your comment but your congestion about using sidewinding stabilizers is actually really good... so I feel like your kind slow but also kinda smart... that's my intermal conflict with this comment.
Correction I meant fastner not faster.
If you really want to see how this works, don't fasten the ball hitch. When the tractor reaches the ramp, the entire trailer tilts up like an amusement park roller coaster. Alternatively you could have a very heavy person stand on the tow hitch and solve the problem without the need to jack the back.
happens more often then it should
Japanese trucks for Japanese tractors. Get American tractors and American trucks saleouts
Why isn't your ramp an actual ramp, capable of supporting your load without depending on the trailer suspension? Lower the ramp, drive the load onto the trailer, then raise the ramp - no stabilizers needed.
Wheel chocks, 4wd low, use parking brakes. Truck and trailer won’t go scooting downhill then.
Not my trailer norm. Seams no weigh on truck axle , longer trailer for me
Where’s the girl on the cover
Also tundras are NOT heavy duty trucks get yourself a 3/4 or 1 ton.
Never mentioned how the Truck could be a limiting factor. I am not expert here, never loaded a trailer. But my common sense tells me one must understand what loads are going to transferred to the truck. Especially when you backing out without those Jack's. Because weight is not equally distributed.
What you are basically doing is reducing loads to the truck by using jack supports. It is all statics.
Statics is a course that is taught to first year Engineers . All this course teaches you is summation of applied forces and reactions are zero. Summation of moments and reacting moments are zero.
The applied forces are weights here. Reactions are reaction at the tires, and suspension.
Even a tall San Francisco Bridge has to support it weight. Ofcourse here it gets a little complicated.
For example loads at each section and faster have to be analyzed. Not to mention if there are high wind loads or vibration loads due to vehicle have to analyzed.
The best one is when the trailer tongue coupler isn't properly coupled to the ball....or the wrong size ball....lots of dents in the back of trucks because people have done that...apparently multiple times given the number and size of dents LOL.
You left out a lot on this video....like parking and loading on hills...chocking the wheels of the truck/trailer before loading helps too especially on hills, doesn't hurt on flat ground either....remember the parking brake on your truck is on the rear axle....once that axle is unloaded (weight removed), that truck will take off even on flat ground with you loading a piece of equipment on a trailer, that momentum will push the truck.
Thanks for watching and commenting, you will see more trailer tips videos in the near future
The second video shows to much weight on the rear of the trailer. Back it on and put more weight on the truck. It’ll keep the trail from fishtailing and creating a hazard for everybody on the road..
Need long ramp Only tractor over weight 3,500 or more not short ramp!
Let’s try raising up the 3 point arms spanky, don’t be that guy that drags them on the ground while being that guy that don’t use stabilizers
Whoever is driving that tractor onto the dual axle wants to stop giving advice until they are aware of where their lift arms are positioned, both times they ran the arms into the pavement, also when the trailer tipped the front lift implement didn’t dig into the trailer ramp like it did when the steadies were down!
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I know a Man In upstate Ny, That loaded a Large Tractor Just like this one in your Picture ,and Bent His Toyota T100 frame in Half, Dumb Dumb, I told him to Put a 4x4 under each corner NO nothing will Happen, LOL
safe way to load, easier on any truck frame
You're a great dealership. Need to clone your company and bring it to the States!
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You can’t tell me how to do my job. I load a trailer however I want. BTW, I’m forklift certified
Thanks for watching
You kept mentioning a truck, but I didn't see any trucks in the video.
Passenger "stabilizer" was clearly on the ground, while drivers side was elevated like noted. Nice try to make the angles look better for the video.
No tricks, just a simple video showing the need for stabilizer arms
Most of the idiots around here don't use a plug-in that lowers the trailer to ride level, so the back of the trailer is almost on the ground to start with.
Common sense is quite rare these days
Hopefully the video helps a few people out, thanks for watching & commenting
Raise your 3pth arms, you are dragging them.
noted for the next videos
5th grade math
Darn nice tow vehicles
#1 you are using a car with a bed on it. :(
Is this guy going through puberty?