SBG AUTHOR RICK PRIESTLEY - LORD OF THE RINGS WARHAMMER INTERVIEW
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2020
- An interview with the original writer and creator behind the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game - Rick Priestley. He also invented Warhammer and Warhammer 40k... But let's not touch on that too much!!
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It's great to see and hear Mr. Priestley speak with such passion about his work. He really made a golden age of wargaming possible. I still have a lot of friends thanks to that and I imagine I'm not the only one.
Awesome! This guy is a genius. For me, Warmaster is his masterpiece. Sadly its so underrated
Met the man himself at Warlord Games in Nottingham and it was a real pleasure to talk with him. Man, I'm so glad he's the writer behind some of my favourite games and backgrounds.
Really impressed with this content, not seen anyone take the initiative to do this kind of interview outside of the occasional GW stuff.
Was already subscribed to Entmoot. Thanks for bringing this content to the community Harry. You’ve got another subscriber.
Thanks sonny, very kind of you!
Good of Rick to ensure Richard "Hal" Halliwell gets his dues, particularly since last I heard poor Hal had fallen on very hard times including homelessness. I hope he is doing OK.
As someone whose been homeless, I surely hope it's not true OR at least if Mr.Haliwell isn't homeless any longer. As a wargamer/collector it was especially difficult to lose ones 21 year collection.
I'm sad to say that Richard Halliwell died this may.
A solid dude. I remember back when I was a young kid totally REVERING Rick Priestley. Back then, his images in White Dwarf were him with a thick head of hair. The Norwood Reaper has been unkind to him. Anyway, I owe this man so much - he changed my life with his initiative (10). Lol.
This was a superb interview, btw. Very interesting bits of info here and there, in particular, answering the question of WHY LotR's scale was different than the rest of the systems.
So you had to buy the exact miniatures. Any proxies would look out if place
@@funoff3207 What? You don't HAVE to buy any miniatures, you can use an eraser as a proxy for play if you want. The only people who bitch about what's actually on the table are the kinds of people you don't wanna play with anyway. I'm more inclined to believe his explanation.
What an enlightening interview, every time I hear Rick speak on the subject of war-gaming I learn something new, here's to more pearls of wisdom from the venerable generation of war-games writers that GW spawned, wherever they now may be!
Excellent interview, wish it could have gone on much longer. I was a WHFB fan in the mid 80's, good to hear those names again: Jerv Johnson, John 'Blanchitsu' Blanche The Perrys et al.
Excellent interview. Rick Priestly has designed more minis games that I enjoy and play than any other designer. I like how he almost always closes articles with an attempt to get tea or a beer from the reader.
Battle! Practical Wargaming was my first ruleset in 1972. I remember reading LOTR in 1981, the same style paperback. I then encountered Rick and Hal's 'Reaper' rules and some 15mm fantasy figures and fought battles inspired by LOTR.
HE'S THE MAN ! big influence on me this guy. He was instumental in creating WH40K and Warhammer Fantasy Battle. He's like the Gary Gygax of miniatues wargaming; get a statue of this man up and of Gary Gygax also already. Excellent interview btw
31:10 - This is so sad. I loved 40k and the Warhammer Fantasy world he helped create... He's also spot on about AoS and game complexity. Thanks so much for uploading this interview!
Really enjoyed this, thank you for creating it.
This is brilliant thanks for uploading this. Great to see the origins of my favourite game from the man himself. It was those deagostini magazines that got me into the game too all those years ago when the films came out.
Really amazing. Thank you so much for capturing this. So much in my childhood in these early GW days
Great interview!
Great interview with high quality production!
That's an amazing interview and not only for the fans of the game. Great job and thank you!
Excellent interview. Thank you
Such an awesome man! I owe my childhood to him. Very cool that he mentioned Rodney Matthews too!
This was a really interesting video, thanks for sharing!
Just rewatched this video, what a great interview Harry! Brilliantly done. Rick seems like a proper nice guy
Thank you very much Mr. Priestley for all the joy Warhammer brought me since 1992 !!!
Wow, this was just amazing. Well done sir.
You did an amazing job and conducted that interview like a pro. Sound editing could get a bit of work, but this was so jam packed with information, trivia, fascinating rabbit holes. A pleasure to watch.
Thanks for doing this interview, it's wonderful stuff to see! For so many of us growing up in the 90's and 2000's Rick Priestley was THE guy when it came to the hobby world. I still fondly remember his High Elf army from the Painting and Collecting armies book, which stays in my mind as something inspiring because it was one of the rare times in those days you actually got to see an army painted to a tabletop standard in an official publication. And let's not even get into Warmaster, dude is a legend.
This was amazing! Big fan of Rick Priestley and what he helped create and something I enjoy to this day.
Thanks for capturing this history.
You were absolutely right Rick. I was obsessed with Lord of the Rings when it came as a kid. I got bought the magazines with the models in and from there I found Fantasy and 40K. Nearly 20 years later im still pouring money into GW haha. You definitely broadened the hobby for people like me that otherwise would never have got involved.
This is SO good to see. Rick is an absolute Titan but as a LotR fan this is what I’d most like to hear him talk about. Fantastic interview. Thank you son much for doing it.
Great interview Harry!
What a great interview!
What a fantastic interview a complete gentleman well done.
Great Video very interesting and so glad Rick pushed for my fav game
Fantastic video mate thank you for bringing this wonderful insight.
James Hogg you’re most welcome!
Its really fascinating how everything in the world is connected. I was 7 years old in 1997 and my father read me Lord of the Rings when its bed time in excellent soviet edition translation (thats the books we had and i still have them on my shelf. Then at 15 i discovered Warhammer, White Dwarf and Games Workshop games and miniatures. And i've seen Rick Priestley in there, and his notes, and i thought that man must be brilliant! And currently thanks to you and internet and youtube i can actually listen to an interview with the man himself, and see him, and hear how he was influenced by the books and the universe i cherish. Life is full of amazing coincidences, thats so heartwarming and eye opening.
Brilliant video. Very interesting interview. Good job! Subbed.
Just back in from DOS2020 and feeling post tourney blues, stumbled upon this whilst browsing youtube... excellent job Harry. Great content and enjoyed muchly. Awesome catching up this weekend, hope you had lots of fun and best of luck with this channel and all your other endeavours :) - James
Thanks James, glad you enjoyed it!
Rick Priestley !!! ....been a fan of his work since 1985.
Imagine having to tell management of a company that makes fantasy miniatures and founders were inspired by Lord of the Rings, that Lord of the Rings is going to be very successful. Just shows how out of touch management were with the company during those dark days.
I think Rick Priestly is better off not being part of the company now, he is free to pursue his interests in creating good games and settings. GW's current fantasy seems to be aimed at the American inspired fantasy, think World of Warcraft and Magic the Gathering, than it is say Lord of the Rings.
Everything coming out if games workshop is just bland and awful. Making so much money though.
Warcraft was supposed to be a Warhammer game, till GW dropped it and Warcraft was born as a result of assets and code made.
Warhammer was largely War inspired, even 40K is based of world history's waring cultures, plus every post apocalyptic and dystopic narrative combined (Grim-Dark).
Lately, it is trying to continue long stagnated storylines, with all manner of commercial and sales implications for the current audience, while serving the old.
They aren't making as much as you'd think. Their stories and books sell well, by comparison.
@@Lordradost Well admit don't know how well sales are but share prices have been crazy enough for mainstream sources to start taking notice
It has little to do with "American inspired fantasy" and everything to do with the current trends in games and media. They've gotten much better at hyping up a product over a few months, and as we saw with Sisters of Battle a full year, and they continue to develop that aspect of their marketing. They release, giving us a large, expensive product, often times with self-contained rules that are often impossible to find anywhere else than with the relevant kit- a practice often called "DLC" now by the community- before then releasing individual components. So, MtG certainly has an influence, but it's an influence on marketing schemes more so than otherwise.
The direction that the visual aesthetics and the lore of the games are taking are driven by what the people working at Games-Workshop are most interested in; pop culture things like comic book heroes and an overblown space opera that wont be directly commented upon. If you want something to whinge about, those are the targets you should fixate upon. Warcraft's art was inspired by comic books, because Chris Metzen and Samwise Didier, the driving forces behind the series' visual direction, are not only massive fans of comic books but have gone on to create comic books themselves. With Marvel and DC movies being as colossal as they are today, not to mention the resumption of the space opera, I'm really not sure how you didn't put one and one together.
The latter bit is why we've seen the game move on from past editions where they were often times no named characters whatsoever in an Army Book and an emphasis on creating your own stories with the setting's background serving as a rough guideline to flavor the world, to today, where we receive massive centerpiece models and dozens of named characters as well as the removal of the majority of options. Wargear options have been dramatically reduced, miniatures have become more monopose and less friendly to conversion, and conversion itself is broadly discouraged. I could go on, but I digress. It has nothing to do with Lord of the Rings and World of Warcraft.
@@Lordradost Chris Metzen has gone on record in an interview saying that Games-Workshop and Blizzard were never working together. It was not "supposed to be a Warhammer game", nor was StarCraft supposed to be a 40k game. The similarities arise from Chris Metzen having been an artist at Blizzard and being very, very big into Warhammer (among other things). He still is, actually. He's been on a Warhammer podcast or two since he retired from Blizzard, he currently runs a gaming club in that area of California, and has posted a 40k collection that could only be described as 'exactly as massive as you'd expect out of the former Top Nerd of Blizzard Entertainment'.
You are correct on the last part. I'd have to go back and read the annual report again, but I recall them commenting that for 2018-2019, Age of Sigmar sold abysmally.
Brilliant interview
Amazing to hear from the guy behind so many big name systems; really loved his restless enthusiasm and interest in the mechanics rather than just the visual element. Also to hear the history of game makers who began, and worked, as hobbyists and friends, and to see the inherent differences later between them and more commercial management - fascinating. Personally 40k 3rd ed was where it was at for me; still remember the look and feel of the books, and I've still got a rulebook and Eldar codex I think.
Fantastic piece. Well done on such a great video
Thanks Chris :D
Wow! What a treasure to watch! Thanks for this.
BloodBought Son you’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
These interviews are great. I spent most of my teens (the mid to late 80's) running around in worlds that Rick and pals created and still try to as much as I can, one way or another. Good stuff BGME!
Thanks mate, I’m running out of legends to interview though 😂
Great work, Harry! I hope this is the first of many interviews with wargaming legends!
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Thanks for this, always enjoy an RP interview and you got some fresh insights here.
Thanks Mark - glad to have added a nugget to to the conversation! He's often interviewed but seemingly not a great deal about this period of his work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@EntmootVideos he was particularly relaxed, candid and chatty I thought here. Well done
This guys a legend. Total personal hero. Great series of interviews, it was the Perry’s promoting their one that bought me here.
Thanks Knoffles! More are in the pipeline - they take some time to do though!
Oh boy, what a fantastic work you made here.
It was such a pleasure to hear this story.
Thank you so much for it, man.
Keep up with the good work, and stay safe!
Best wishes!
Thank you so much! I hope you’ve seen the others in the series! Alessio Cavatore is the most reason!
what a gem, thank you for bringing this
You’re welcome!
So amazing!
Awesome interview! I think it would be AWESOME to have an interview with Gavin Thorpe as well, just because of how instrumental his work is in creating a narrative.
It would! But alas I believe Gav may still; be in the company. I am trying to talk to others though, if it wasn't for Covid i'd be doing another today
Priestly's reasoning on LOTR bringing people into the greater hobby was spot on. I was introduced to GW through a pamphlet in the back of the Two Towers game. Discovered the LOTR game and eventually 40k which I still play to this day.
Really, REALLY love this! What would be better? 2+ hours of this :D
Juuso Huttunen haha, if only! But always leaving you wanting more is a good tactic 😉
@@EntmootVideos It is :)
Omg thank you Mate you made my youth!
These interviews are fantastic
You’re fantastic for watching them and being nice about them!
Great interview btw.
It's funny that SBG boosted GW because the Warhammer crowd thought SBG was dead weight during the late 2000's period.
Wow, I had that edition of LotR also. I read The Hobbit in primary school and around a similar time, I got a copy of Heroquest which introduced me to the Warhammer world. I used to have a LotR poster above my bed. You can see how I was a prime candidate to become a Warhammer enthusiast. I no longer play miniature war-games, with a preference for board games as a product that provides a full gaming experience in one unique package.
Great video.. (quality presentation, not just content)
That was cool, thanks Harry
David Sweeting you’re welcome! He was a gent!
Very good. Mr. Priestley isn't always this forthcoming, but obviously this was him at his enthusiastic best. Especially about his early career and the development of LoTR - bug thumbs up from me- Ty
Mike Popay Id like to say it was my excellent interview technique 🤣 But if you’re right, I think it’s more likely because not a lot of people have asked about this period of his work and in such great depth!
amazing interview
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much! Mr. Priestly is a legend, great insight into the early days of LOTR SBG.
paboook thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I REALLY wish Rick would write Warhammer Fantasy Battle again.
Nice video, with good insight.
You guys were using modeling and simulation for war games play testing back then! Wow alot of what you talk about is some very sophisticated development. I hope the Amazon/LoTR IP sees this video. Maybe Rob and Company has already secured the war games Amazon/LoTR IP? :) Especially after you quote that this war game IP was one of the most successful for NLP! Great video Battle Games in Middle Earth! Thank you!!!!!
Stephan Hess sounds really interesting. Maybe he would like to come down and roll some dice ...
What a legend and great content 👌
I started Warhammering when I was 9 years old. That's more than 2 decades ago, now. It got me into wargaming, which got me through some very rough times in my life, and has opened up new opportunities for me now. It's funny that he can't remember how to play LotR, when I can still rattle off Warhammer statlines to this day. Can't argue with his outlook on 2010's era GW, or 'Age of Sigmar.' When they deleted Fantasy, that was it for me - I got out and went to other systems. If he wants a real kick in the nostalgia, I've got a copy of his '1644' rules on my desk right now.
I like to meet Mr Priestley some day, just to shake his hand and thank him for the work he did on those games.
Priestley was spot on about getting people into 40k via Lord of the Rings. I started out collecting Lord of the Rings figures and then moved into 40k
He’s a wise man!
Really good stuff.
Fascinating!
Thanks for the comments and support on all of these videos - really appreciate it!!
20:07 "WOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Warmaster!!!"
Excellent content expressing top level of genuine devotion to tabletop hobby fun
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WHFBIII including Siege, just the best in my youth!
That was great
Hope you’ve enjoyed the others too!
Its no exaggeration that this dude is one of the most influential peeps in my life. Been playing his games for years.
He's a Legend!
Great interview and very insightful of how the game came about. I would like to point out that Mr. Priestly did not design the game on his own and collaborated with a young designer (at the time) by the name of Alessio Cavatore who came up with most of the core mechanics. Rick was the one who convinced GW to buy the license, but Alessio is the father of the modern day SBG game as we know it. Credit is due to both of these fine gentlemen.
From what I understand, Rick designers the bones of the system and Alessio built the matched play elements and made it work more as a points game. But absolutely, Alessio Cavatore is worthy of much credit! I hope to talk to him at some point as well.
This guys a legend !!!
Eres grande ricky y no solo tu, nigell stillman, andy Chamberí, y por supuesto jervis johnson, fuisteis mi juventud, fuisteis mis sueños y sobre fuisteis mi fantasía gracias por todo lo que creasteis por que fue pura magia y sobre todo gracias por seguir ahí. ( sorry for idiom I m spanish) thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn’t understand any of this except the Thank you (and some familiar names!) but thank you!
Hehe that’s the edition of LOTR that my dad has when I was a boy, I remember that from about 25 years ago
Good INterview!
Thank you, I hope you enjoy the others too!
32:36 Rick Priestley patronising the interviewer: "He's only very young" HAHA
This is awesome, how did you manage to get this interview!?!?
Richard Klammer I got in touch, explained what I wanted to do and he said yes ☺️
100% agree with Rick Priestley about kids being great at learning complex systems. And lots of them really ENJOY it too. My students absorbed the systems for dungeons and dragons like sponges. I bet they would be the same with any wargame. And yeah, I do prefer simpler games now, myself.
I totally agree with that! Simple games are far less fun to get your head round as a young un
Rick Priestly, wooh!!
Cool!
Loving the hobbit pub t-shirt!!
2thehappyman thank you! I must say the challenge to achieve it was tough though!
@@EntmootVideos Its not easy for sure! got quite a few for going to uni in Southampton and drinking a lot
Games Workshop may now be a toxic dumpster fire but Rick is golden.. I first started with the original Rogue Trader and Adeptus Titanicus, Space Marine.. so many great memories. I'm now playing Warhammer Armies Project and its like the golden age again,.
Rick " Orcs and Goblins are a gamblers army" Priestley
I'm really impressed you asked about Age of Sigmar, I'd be terrified talking about the system that tore apart the world he had created.
I still think it was an awful decision of theirs and I feel like this confirms it was a regrettable one, whoever is at the helm now might have gone a different way maybe.
I actually really enjoy AOS, but to be fair I was 40k guy back in the 80s and switched with the kids fairly recently.
No criticism of AoS but the decision which effectively abandoned a very loyal and committed fanbase was very average. People put hours and hours, not to mention the cost of building up their armies. GW was updating the rules and army books every couple of years, challenging the collectors to revise their lists and maybe add some new units but totally abandoning this world could only be seen as a betrayal. I got out of Warhammer before this happened so wasn't bitten by it but was appropriately shocked at the time.
Great interview. It's weird but everybody loves the original GW creatives like Priestly, the Perrys, Chambers etc. But I've never known a company more generally hated than GW itself.
I agree with your assessment of those guys - though I must say that I do think Gw is generally better these days. Not as good as the golden age but it’s certainly not as lost as it once was!
@@EntmootVideos I wasnt trying to say that I particularly hate GW, to me It is just a bland none entity now, living off it's former reputation. I was speaking of the general feel that people appear to have for GW. When I talk to people about them they really do seem to hate them more than politicians even. Are you aware of the Arch Warhammer controversy that happened recently? I think GW are hated with good reason. But the guys you've been interviewing are universally seen as wargaming hero's. Everybody loves them as much as they hate GW. Its just odd that there should be such a divide between the loathed GW corporate and the loved ex-GW creatives and artists. It's night and day.
@@patrickquin8674 Maybe that is true - but they’re making more money than ever so some people must still like them 😂 I get the impression in the lord of the rings community that people do like Gw again, they appear to be listening to fans more than before which can only be a good thing. Totally agree that they went through a terrible period and they were fools to push people like mr Priestley and The Perry Twins out (or at least, make the climate apparently so unpleasant for them that they wanted to leave)
@@EntmootVideos Yeah maybe I dont know, im just going by what people say. It's anecdotal. As far as being liked because people buy from them? I buy petrol every week but it's not because I like Shell particularly. I would guess that if they continue as they are the worst period for GW will still lay ahead for them since they made that famous post about some gamers being unwelcome at GW and fully entering into the realm of social justice politics, that's got to end in tears. Unless of course they change direction. If nothing else GW can be entertaining to watch blunder about the internet.
You can hear how priestly was savy and successful with LOTR alongside the film where gw today fails miserably with total war warhammer by killing off the world around the same time.
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Priestly wasn't the only one to create Bolt Action, Alessio Cavatore was also a head writer, ffs.
Ricks a treasure
What Rick doesn't mention here is that a big part of the reason the margins were better overall is that in the time that LotR was super hot (when the original movies were in theaters) most of the armies were made up of metal figures which were cheaper to produce molds for than plastics. At the same time GW was pumping out about a dozen plastic kits a year for WHFB and 40k which cost a lot of money.
Jon Carroll plastics cost way more in the short term, but the metals cost longer in the long term. So the plastic kits like the riders of Rohan now are waaay more profitable than the other stuff, but yes at the time it made sense for them to make loooads of metal moulds of the same model for cost efficiency.
The trouble with metal moulds is they wear out after some use. If your masters are knackered you'll get some generational loss recasting.
MOAR
TOO SHORT ;__
rick is miles from Shadow over Mystara