$100 Budget CEDH Gameplay | Niv-Mizzet vs Yuriko vs Naru-Meha vs Tasigur
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âWe cut $6000 worth of cards.â
So around 15 cards. Got it.
and the same ones in every deck.
Just timetwister
@@F3A5T Timetwister is almost always a card that can be removed without much affect as well. That alone is $3500 taken right out of the MSRP.
@@JD-gk7eh Five months later and it is like $7000.
Please do more games with budget decks, it was interesting to see what power is still possible at lower relative cost.
i agree i find all of the normal decks use the same cards
When I saw the first creature on the field being Gingerbrute, I knew this was gonna be a good episode.
As a poor student I love budget cedh episodes!
Edit: welcome back Garret we love you!
Love the fact that you included more budgets, really helpful, I hope Tymna/Kraum can make a comeback to the low budget episodes
Love the aspect of accessibility these budget episodes bring. Thanks for the video!
Letâs go a new episode
Also as a student budget episodes are great
Thanks for the great resources! I've been slowly collecting budget pieces to build my first cEDH deck and this video has given me hope that it's not impossible on a budget.
Adam's dedication to Izzet is beautiful.
Great work as always, the budget series is interesting as always!
awesome to see budget cedh decks in action, it shows how the approach is the real thing, not the price
I waited for niv-mizzet for so long, ty :D
I have been waiting to see niv thank you guys so much you for these budget games and the links I can now start getting more stuff for my niv deck love all the work you guys do
Dang that was a lot of fun! Great games and really cool decks!
just watched the previous budged episode for 5th time and wondering when is the next one then opened the channel to find a surprise
This was a lot of fun to watch. I'm coming back to it now after having played the Yuriko deck, which now is somewhere around $150. Still not bad. I didn't win but definitely got the table down pretty far, not making it far enough into my deck to find the outright win. First time playing that commander too.
I just wish the cedh subreddit was as awesome as you guys. They expect everyone to build the same deck from a primer rather than give feedback to someone who isn't rich or isn't willing to proxy
That's because they believe, rightly, that if one is playing cEDH, then play full cEDH even if you have to proxy. Don't understand why someone would want to play cEDH but be against proxies
@@caex Meanwhile, videos like this show that cedh can be played on a budget. I'm not opposed to playing against proxies, and I've used them in the past, but I just don't want to use proxies anymore. the subreddit is gatekeeping
Fish gets fed and wins the game. Yeah, seems like cedh to me
In the end when Adam was down to 3 and played the buccaneer, I was a bit disappointed to see no other red decks at the table, a lighting bolt in response would've been a super hype play. This was a really fun game to watch, it was nice to see an example of how well budget decks can perform despite their low cost! Although this may not be entirely fair, I think it could be fun to play a game with the winners at each price level, but that does only give you 3 different decks so it could cause an issue.
Those budget videos are the best!
Love these budget vids
Nice some more budget CEDH! đ
I love Adams playstyle here. I myself play Locust god as the commander with Nv-mizzet being in the 99. I got all the same cards, but I also add "Sage of the Falls" into the list of combos as it is a 1 card combo with my commander, with Locust god out, you cast Sage of the falls, and since he is non-human, you draw a card, discarding a card and getting a locust. it is a may ability so you can do this as often as you want. if you have an Edlrazi titan in the deck it is an infinitre loop where you draw and discard your deck over and over and all your locusts kill the table, GG. Note: another card you can play instead of glint-horn buccaner when you have drawn your deck is "firestorm", but only if you have enough targets, which is why playing the locust god is so good, you target yoiur own locusts and your 3 oppenents and kill the table.
Inspired by your older videos I made a list of 100 dollars cEDH decks, and I also create my own list. In response to your "challenge" Is there a way to show you guys my deck and the list itself? You were a huge inspiration for me and my playgroup and I will love to hear your opinion about the deck.
Just earned my sub, more of these please.
Nice game and nice win. I think curiosity was in the running for MVC
Guys, I REALLY love when you do this, and now with upgrades to $500 that's just awesome. Thank you all.
As I've said before, Niv is absolutely crazy. When I first built mine I couldn't figure why his cmc was so high/specific, but if he sticks around he just gets on a roll and is so hard to stop. Great game though! I used your budget Yuriko from a previous video and I love her. Despite being good, Yuriko neverv seems to draw hate....
Glad to hear you have tried the Yuriko list!
@@zmonty011 im gonna build it friday probably i just wonder what should i look for in reasonable upgrades for it haha
It's a hard card to direct hate to right. If you kill, exile, or bounce her the player can always just replay her for the ninjutsu costs which aren't subject to commander tax. A board wipe of the ninjas and changelings seems to be the best way to really stop that deck
Big fan of budget CEDH. I have a $30 budget tasigur that wins via infinite mana and a massive exsanguinate. I would love to see you guys do this with Selvala, Heart of the wild and K'rirk, Son of yawgmoth!
I love these budget videos
This is a great way to shake up a format that has very few surprises left in it.
What expensive options are still in the list? What $0.25 pieces will replace the cuts? Will someone actually get color-screwed? We'll just have to wait and see!
Sick video, loving the budget alternatives that are still extremely strong. It can be hard to be competitive on a budget.
I wish they'd just reprint some of the unreasonably expensive cards in a reasonable quantity already. It's insane watching a deck go from $100 to over $6000 just for lands and fast mana.
Reserved list says "no". Honestly, I think it should be (and actually mostly is) completely acceptable to just proxy cards you can't afford. If Wizards doesn't print enough, then we should
love the budget videos
i have recently started polayin commander and wanted to try tasigur thanks !
Love the budget games. It feels way more attainable and relatable
Amazing content!
Welcome back Senpai Garret!
I really like that Goblin King play mat Ryan has. Phil Foglio is without a doubt my favorite Magic Artist.
This is great!
Niv-Mizzet Parun was the first commander deck I ever built...right Iâm gonna make mine like this now.
I am fortunate enough to have started playing Magic during Onslaught's release, back when cards were reasonably affordable. Mox Diamond cost just a few dollars, and playsets of all the dual lands cost just a few hundred dollars, total....I consider that to be a golden era of MtG when it was easy to play even legacy. I bought an entire playset of Force of Will for slightly less than one hundred dollars. I miss those days. :(
Disrupting shoal is a pure sleeper force of will that $2. I made a $100 cedh league at my locals called âwarlordâ and it starts tomorrow. My $100 build is emry and still has thassa, aetherflux, and isochron in it, and i still have $12 left in budget.
Could you do one on making cEDH decks on a budget and your thought processes on them?
3 thoughts, love this content in tandem with your other games of full powered decks, the key card in this game was clearly the mystic remora the advantage gained was well worth any cost, lastly the beast within confused me as did the fight over the second mystic remora, when the first one wasnât fought over. So many resources in that moment additionally feeding nivs hand the whole time, seems like that just doubly helped the niv deck so questioning some of tasigurs choices.
My thoughts about the plays you mentioned (please feel free to correct me!):
1) Beast Within doubled as a way to put a blocker on Niv's board. Niv only plays 7 creatures excluding Niv (6 if you count Drift of Phantasms only for Transmute). Yuriko was gaining easy advantage by attacking there to get triggers, so getting rid of Remora AND putting a blocker to slow down Yuriko was probably the reason.
2) Regarding the fight over Mystic, Yuriko is built to be more proactive than Niv, and is already putting a lot of pressure on the table while the Niv player isn't doing much at the time, so countering the proactive Remora was likely the better play.
@@Train__ In My opinion the beast within can be done on the yuriko turn with that thought in mind. then you force niv to decide to waste the mana and you get to deliver a blocker during attacks.
On the mystic it was being played by the narumeha player not the yuriko player.
Niv-Mizzet is such a fun commander to play! I love him!
That was a really cool win
I'm so excited for the idea of the PwP team playing budget decks vs the budgetless decks to see how they stack up against each other.
Great game guys.
Please do more of these
I wonder if there's a way you could display the stack so that it's clearer which player controls what? the stack at 6:30 for example was a bit hard to follow
My friday just got waaaay better!!!
Insanely cool wincon
Great video once again, but a few things I would like to point out:
1. Countering the second fish was probably really not the right play and seemed a bit weird, because it not only fed Adam even more, it prevented Ryan to close up to him and Zack. In addition to that, it took resources away from Ryan, that he might have used later against Adam. If 2 people are already way ahead of you, its most of the time the better choice to let the third opponent catch up and let them fight each other.
2. While the premise of the video is cool and I liked the gameplay and video very much, the budget creates a whole lot of problems, because some card get dramatically stronger. Its very unlikely that somebody will ever pay for Mystic Remora or even Rhystic Stury in games where no fast mana is available, which in turn results in upping the power level of those cards a lot. People will tap out more often and without the expensive disruption in form of force of will or force of negation this means that setting up a combo turn is much easier than it should be, which therefore makes commanders like Yuriko worse than they usually are, because they tap out a lot in the first place and rely on free interaction a lot. I know Yuriko still did good in this game tho. So yeah, while it was very entertaining to watch and I would like to see more of that IMO its more of EDH than cEDH.
very first deck: "This cost comes from timetwister, expensive fast mana, premier interaction, and an expensive land base."
me: "I'm starting to see a trend."
Good game!
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Complete aside, I've had a roommate discover Brion Strongarm, build a $50 deck starring the flingy-boy, then went to our mtg club room and wins his first game with it, dealing over 200 damage to everyone with a cEDH Gitrog deck at the table.
Commander will always be my favourite because of the many crazy moments that can happen all in one game.
When we gonna see that sweet Tergrid game play?
*New cards added to wishlist
This is relevant to my interests
The counter wars certainly arenât any less intense xD
I had no idea that a lot of these cEDH decks cost $5,000-6,000 and upwards. I can barely grasp the concept of a pod of cEDH players where the cards they're casually shuffling and playing with are so expensive that they'd be a fair trade for the car in my driveway.
I love the budget idea, more episodes like this would be cool. Decklists that are multiple thousands of dollars are so far from reality for me that the only way I'd get to play a proper cEDH game like you usually do would be if all 400 cards in the pod were proxies.
Iâm thinking about picking up and working on the Tasigur deck but Iâm wondering how it plays and what changes might be made, swapped in/out for different groups etc. especially with new cards.
The description has the upgraded version of the deck so you can use it as a guide.
This is more creative than precon upgrades
I had more fun watching this budget gameplay then some full cEDH games. It feels like it had more interaction and still allowed people to play and do the things they wanted. A lot of the time cEDH has felt like you're just king making when you counter anything and it makes me sad.
Yay garret!!
Spelling mistake at 4:00 Bugetless, otherwise looking forward to watch the rest of the video
Edit: Was it intentional that we don't see starting hands?
This was somehow more exiting than regular cedh
Hi. Iâm new to CEDH.
Didnât the curiosity+niv combo kill the table? Why did he need to cast GHB?
My winota joiner of forces deck is probably about 420+ dollars in value but it's a very good deck with alot of synergy and just good value and numerous combo lines
the deck really gets shut down if someone's gonna play a opposition agent because i have the godo/helm combo. and a kiki jiki with a few different creatures and just walking balista/ heliod, sun crowned line. and just a minor amount of control pieces
So what you're saying is, cEDH resolves around fast mana, counter magic, and lands?
Bugetless? That's in the intro XD
No bugs in the deck?
The $100 Niv-Mizzet deck list seems to be missing a card. Does anyone know what it happens to be?
May i ask you what sleeves you all uses? Because my sleeves are not good for online magic because they are too shiny. Thanks a lot, that was so much fun.
We use Dragon Shields. I have used Dragon Shields for many years now. Best there is IMO.
Well high power is good too.
The best way to make cEDH accessible is to simply encouraging proxying. Fortunately, a majority of the community seems on board with that already.
Good ol Niv Miz
Was about 205 but Iâm happy I got a nice build
budget vs non budget on the horizons? đ
Sounds interesting, cant wait
Yes! It is coming in the future!
This has already happened remember when I cyclonic rift stalerâs rock and he died to his pact trigger
Where is Zackâs Matt from?
Basically avoid Time Twister for Windfall and save your money for fast rocks! Also alas fetchlands have to become all the different 2 color ones that are around 5-10
I was wondering how Adam broke the Niv-Curiosity chain, since there is no may trigger and after some thinking and rewatching I realized he can ping any target.
Didn't know I was that starved for playing Magic...
Loved the video, but I think you saved way over 5k. Removing timetwister alone is over 10k nowadays
Budget counting commander or excluding it?
Excluding commanders and basic lands.
I tought CEDH was actually tied to the fast mana and top tier counterspells, now I'm just confused xD
Yeah, this game was really slow by cEDH standards without those top-tier cards.
Teshar would b a good one for budget cedh
I love how most decks are expensive for the mana base fast mana and blue cards. Always find that funny
I suggest najeela as a budget cedh. We start to play budget cedh and I use her, she is really powerful.
Where did ryan get that rad Phil Phogilio playmate?
They had a kickstarter a long time back, and he picked up a few playmats.
Damn the Niv Mizzet deck is already up to $300
Bugetless!
i see the good will in this video but what will happen if one of these decks will have to face 3 budgetless decks?
We are actually working on that. We will be pitting some of the top contenders against budgetless decks in upcoming months.
I have yet to do this, and I do enjoy using the real cards more.....
But you can actually save 6000 dollars while using the exact same decklist if you just use proxies....SHHH DONT TELL ANYONE. But seriously, love it guys!
That misses the point of this video. Not everyone can use proxies, and these videos give people the ability to try out CEDH on a budget.
Why donât any of the yuriko decks have senseis top? I get the $100 one not having it
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Good episode as always!
11:22 how did niz mizzet kill all his opponents did he draw 37 times because that was the highest life count or how??? someone please explain Iâm gonna start building a niz-mizzet deck I took an embarrassing lost to niz-mizzet using jodah the unifer and gave me inspiration to build my own
Can someone take Tainted Shimmer Zur for a spin in a future video?
guess who's back..back again
#garret
... tell a friend.
budget cedh, aka cedh without (that) fast mana :p
Bro do $100 teshar plzzz, also you guys should collab with The 99 he does great deck techs