Inside the Neurotic Mind of Stonewall Jackson
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- Let's gossip about a man who's been dead for 158 years.
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~REFERENCES~
[1] Wallace Hettle. Inventing Stonewall Jackson: A Civil War Hero in History and Memory (2011). LSU Press, Page 3-9
[2] Hettle, Page 13-17
[3] Charles Royster. The Destructive War: William Tecumseh Sherman, Stonewall Jackson, and the Americans (1991). Vintage Books, Page 41-46
[4] Royster, Page 52-53
[5] Hettle, Page 20-21
[6] Royster, Page 65-67
[7] Chris Graham. “Myths and Misunderstandings: Stonewall Jackson’s Sunday School” (2017). The American Civil War Museum acwm.org/blog/myths-misunders...
[8] Royster, Page 63-65
[9] Royster, Page 60
[10] Royster, Page 49-51
[11] Mary Anna Jackson. Memoirs of Stonewall Jackson by his Widow, Marry Anna Jackson (1895). Prentice Press, Page 108
[12] Jackson, Page 120-121
[13] Hettle, Page 13-15
[14] Royster, Page 202
CORRECTIONS: When I quoted Mary Chesnut, I said she believed slavery was ordained by God. That's technically true, but misleading. Though an ardent secessionist and slaveowner, she also had serious moral qualms with the institution, calling it a "monstrous system" in her diary. She also wrote frankly about the sexual abuse that was so rampant among the men of the planter class. However, she was by no means an abolitionist. In her estimation, blacks were "horrid brutes" and white slavers had a God-given obligation to, as Robert E. Lee put it, "instruct them as a race." Regarding pro-slavery theology, Chesnut wrote: “Two-thirds of my religion consists in trying to be good to [slaves] because they are so in my power, and it would be so easy to be the other thing.” Further reading: www.scseagrant.org/carolina-diarist-the-broken-world-of-mary-chesnut/
Also, I'm told the National Park Service recently renamed the "Stonewall Jackson Shrine" to the "Stonewall Jackson Death Site." It's been a few years since my last visit, so sorry about that. I should have checked with Johnny Reb before filming! Further reading: www.nps.gov/frsp/learn/historyculture/jds.htm
Thank you so much to the viewers who pointed these errors out!!
Just started watching you're videos. I really like when your voice overs of the letter. They add some humor without the said humor being intrusive and out of place.
Have you read "Rebel Yell," by S. C. Gwynn? I read it before watching any of your videos or knowing much about the lost cause myth. I think it mystifies Jackson like your talking about.
Can u make a video about Trumps 1776 report??
Will you ever make a video about Col. J. Mosby?
@@TheBerylknight where in the hell does it say slavery was ordained by God? Yes slavery was in the Bible but that was punishment to the Hebrews for disobeying gods word, and genocide? Back then thats what all armies did, look at history bro Greece, Egypt, Rome ect..
Such a contradiction. He literally wasn't even made of rocks.
They called him Stonewall Jackson because he had that genetic disease where your muscles turn to bone and the higher commanders set him up as a fortification
Common misconception.
He was actually made of brick. He came up with the idea, genetically modifying his DNA with the power of states rights right after the brick incident during one of his classes.
"Wait? That's why they're calling him that? Not because he looks like he ran face first into a stonewall?"
"This guy's a phoney! A big, fat phoney!"
Thank you for speaking the truth, sir. Any knowledgeable geologist should know this!
“Chased his wife around the house with his sword drawn”
You know, were this Shakespeare that’d be a hilarious double entendre.
How do you know it isn’t?
Napoleon apparently sent love letters to his wife when he was on campaign, telling her about how when he got home he would "Stab her with his little sword"
@@weldonwin he told her not to wash her ass, I know that
@@termeownator Aaaah the french.
she was into it
My great-grandma says we are Stonewall Jackson's descendants, but she also claims to have been married 18 times and to be ultimately responsible for the invention of spandex, powered flight, and sandals.
@Arthur Morgan The ghengis khan one is actually possible if the person is of chinese descent
@Arthur Morgan not even Chinese, his troops got pretty far west as well
😄
So you’re saying she’s incredibly credible with her claims?
We came up with spandex TOGETHER!
Signed,
14th of 18
Regardless of history or politics we must all agree that Stonewall Jackson is one of the hardest street names of all time
@@tommyjackson1745this is my first interaction with another man named after “Stonewall” Jackson. Only we know the struggle 😂
Gangsta rap missed on this one.
They’re all being renamed Jesse Jackson street
Perhaps the students that threw bricks at him were trying to help him build his stone wall.
All in all its just another brick in the wall
We don't need no education
Help us Jackson the Union army rapes us...
No time i bulid a wall
lol
this comment is immensely underrated
Thank you for making this video dark and quiet on the morning of my hangover.
video submitted in last 5 minutes but your comment is 1 day old? WTF lol
@@cosmoline_aesthetic TIME TRAVELERS!
Heilig scheiße ! XD
That was very considerate of him;)
You too can be a time traveler, for the low cost of $10 Patreon subscription.
"An even every time he drank a glass of water." - that sounds less like a matter of Stonewall's religiousness and more like an issue of water's quality at the time. :P
lol
@@cpi3267 lol true
Yeah actually, that makes a lot of sense. Same reason why many people added small amounts of liquor to sterilize their water, especially soldiers. I guess he didn't and instead relied on that holy brand Clorox Blood of Christ spray to sterilize his lol
Damn you just brought up a great point!
Giardia
Never thought I would ever see myself finding common ground with Stonewall Jackson. I mean the profound sense of loneliness before his marriage, the devout loyalty and love he showed to both wives as well as being thrown into a deep depression after the first wife's death. Not the uh... not the whole "slavery is a divine mandate" thing.
me too
Hastur: The Unspeakable, He who is Not to be Named, The Feaster from Afar, Dweller in the Depths-- but not a complete bastard.
It goes to show that even the defenders of one of the most abhorrent crimes ever committed by humans were still humans. Not moustache triwing villains.
Maybe in another life under other circumstances, Stonewall Jackson would have been an empathetic human being instead of a Confederate hero. And maybe, in another life or other circumstances, any of us would have taken the same immoral actions as Stonewall Jackson.
As such. We should always be vigilant about justifying evil acts. As even the most ordinary men can fall into that pit.
@@nachoolo are people still in that mindset im all for the mindset of still remembering those deserving to be killed are still humans because well if we don’t we think ourselves morale paragons
Yep so easy to vilify and attack the dead. He was ten times the man any of these commenters will ever attain.
I don’t know why I laughed so hard when you said “the site of Jackson’s death, off of I-96” like it was a half way decent burger joint.
Maybe there should be one there. "Jackson's Burgers. We'll serve burgers big enough you'll feel like a stone wall before leaving!"
@@cassuttustshirt4949 absolutely brilliant.
@@cassuttustshirt4949 They should also pay their workers minimum wage for extra immersion
@@l.pietrobon3925 Minimum wage?? that's much too high to be immersive
It’s a decent public restroom
Source: Used to live there
This was the least wasteful way I could have spent my 18 minutes, thank you
Shamless clickbait worth watching again.
@@ChrisCaramia I'm already rewatching it for I think the 3rd time
This had 666 likes, so here's a 👍
Time's never wasted here.
*18 minutes and 31 seconds
I love the idea that he's called "Stonewall" because he'd get overwhelmed and just freeze up
I have eight Confederate ancestors, all of whom served in the Stonewall Brigade, one of whom died at Fredericksburg. They include his courier, who later was Senator John Wallace McCreery, who is my maternal grandfather twice removed. You’re one of my favorite historians. History must be approached with honesty.
This guy is the least honest historian on the web!
@@mattvanderford4920 Elaborate.
@@rogerkeleshian2215 he said Jackson had slaves as a negative of the man. Look that up and see if he portrayed the narrative correctly. Also his position on Jackson teaching Sunday school to slaves. Look that up as well his breaking the law to teach slaves English and see if that fits the narrative this guy shares. He is immensely knowledgeable but always skips or tells narrative to erase any concept of the lost cause while not being true to the full story. This one was actually one of his better/honest ones and it was full of crap.
@@rogerkeleshian2215 He won't, because he can't.
@@Handles-Suck-CZcamsYou sir, are based
Well now that you mentioned John Brown...a John Brown Atun-Shei video would kick some serious ass
That man is the definition of a morality check.
I'd be so happy
God that’d be fun
Possibly using a recent miniseries as a point of reference?
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I couldn't agree more...
czcams.com/video/VxKD6RFxRdA/video.html
Yeah not the most encouraging thing to see when you're going into battle and the CO is sucking on lemons
So you have chosen... Scurvy
@@masongoser5627 Scurvy doesn't really happen to landsmen, or to cover my ass it's been incredibly rare throughout history.
Ay, lemme suck some lemons right quick.
@@rusinoe8364 kinky
@@davidschmidtke6366 stone wall had a well documented medical condition. so yeah something like that is the truth.
Adding on to the OCD or possibly on the spectrum thing, I find the spectrum more likely (as someone who is on it). He had a special interest (religion) and was very socially awkward. It would also explain how it’s hard to get in his head. We autistic people tend to think very differently, bottom up rather than top down (details first basically)
Especially the meeting with those English observers. Being socially awkward and not traditionally manly are usually things of men on the spectrum, and talking about mideval churches could be part of the special intrest in religion. Also him literally scripting his teaching
@Creepy Crust not necessarily there’s plenty of autistic people in the armed forces. Everyone experiences autism differently, my sensory issues aren’t bad and I know plenty other autistic people who are the same.
@Creepy Crust again autism is different for everyone who has it and the research backs this up, in fact sensory issues are not needed for a diagnosis.
yeah I pegged him as autistic 6 minutes into this video
@@Lordofcin also, if he did have sensory issues like not being able to wear certain textures of clothing, eat certain textures of food, or such, I wouldn’t expect those to be the highlight of memoirs and such.
As a british woman in her mid 20s, my first bit of exposure to Stonewall Jackson was in his sketch in Horrible Histories which depicted him as a brilliant military strategist.. but was incredibly deaf, fell asleep a lot whilst standing up (obviously exaggerated for comedic effect making him look like Rowan Atkinson's character in Rat Race) and constantly pointed up to the sky like a madman to "Keep the circulation going" because he believed that his right arm was longer than the left one and therefore he needed to artificially keep the circulation going because of it. That definitely made it easier to look at a lot of the legends of the man and take some of them with a grain of salt.
I honestly believe that your first exposure to big historical figures should be done in the vain of historically accurate (if exaggerated) comedy. That way you can see their flaws in a comedic light so you know they exist and you don't hold as much of a bias towards them as if they were legends and infallible people (like a lot of americans view the founding fathers or a lot of brits with people like churchill)
Monty was a bit of an eccentric personality as well, it kind of goes with the turf I think? Not uncommon among top commanders.
He prayed the dysentery out of those glasses of water
And the cholera out of Armadillo
The prayers help to purify the excrement in the water
@@jaxwagen4238 Much healthier that way!
"Today's rapidly dwindling neoconfederate community who have nothing but nice things to say about me"
Wouldn't it be funny if at some point in the future, we found out it came from the sheer amount of bricks thrown at him. "Jackson had so many bricks thrown at him that someone once joked that he could build a stone wall out of them and the name stuck."
That really isnt something of a flaw with his character though I kind of expected to see how he was actually a horrible person not a hero in this video.. but no it was just a bunch of nothing
@@donaldhysa4836 Humanity isn't that simple most of the time. Yeah, there are some truly evil people out there who don't feel a conscience about anything they do, but most people who act in the service of flawed causes aren't that kind of person, they just have ideological reasons they feel the need to carry it out for, even stuff like slavery or genocide
@@yep9462 or they might just find themselves being born in the country on the wrong side of the conflict
We are joking about this but if you stop and think for a second it is not half unfeasable to think that this IS where the nickname originated.
The Stonewall Jackson shrine is an excellent place to go if anyone passes through.
They tell the whole story of his injury, amputation & death.
The house is just like it was in 1863 and they walk you up right to the bed that he died in. The park rangers are very knowledgeable on all sorts of little details. Supposedly the clock stopped working shortly after the time of his death that many people took as a sign. The clock has not been fixed so you see the time frozen on the clock passing through the dimensions of time & life.
Seriously one of the coolest museums I have ever been too
Great place to take a piss, I understand.
@@NuncNuncNuncNunc take a huge stonewall sized dump
@@NuncNuncNuncNuncEspecially good if you're looking to spit out that steak in between your teeth.
I would like to see Guinea Station VA
@Nunc As they don't have toilets it being of that era, only if your mother's mouth is on site.
(This coming from a northerner)
I read his biography many years ago, and one memory has always stayed with me: In the week between getting shot and dying, never once did he ask about the outcome of the battle or about the troops under his command.
Because he understood war. Men are going die. The South was greatly outnumbered and did not have enough supplies. As smart as he was, he knew that . Your welcome ✌️
Jackson cared no more about his troops than about himself. Not a great trait.
@@wilshirewarrior2783 That is a reach.
@@ceelo206 did you not read the comment Russel made? Hello?
So?do you think milley asked about the people who died in Afghanistan?
Was waiting for Johnny Reb to burst in
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OF THE GENERAL
Releasing his bowels, even.
Atun Shei was in quarantine, protecting Johnny.
Maybe that's why he did it in the dark?
@@xadahgla Johnny Reb is the most enjoyable racist since Cartman.
@@davidhibbs4737 or Uncle Ruckus
I remember when Atun-Shei had like three Patreons. Now the damn thing won't stop scrolling.
I remember when he literally replied to every one of my replies to his replies (On my main account.)
I remember when his videos got less than 1000 views
I remember when I remembered
I remember when he first made a video with Brandon F. and said
Andy: I have 20,000 subscribers
Brandon: If you wanna play the number game, I have more than 60,000 subscribers~
Andy : (Eye widens)
There are so many patreons that he can literally: take off his mic, turn the lights, undress, move the furniture around and even after he finished they won't stop scrolling
"Though, Dromedarys and sewing implements do come to mind," a line so clever it took me whole minute to grasp, ending in a literal spit take.
From a purely tactical standpoint, Jackson’s Valley Campaign was one of the most brilliant single campaigns ive heard of
The "Robert E. Lee's signature move" bit had me laughing pretty hard lol Love this channel
That is a good point. Lee on the attack always ordered a headlong infantry charge straight into the guns.
@@ghostinthemachine8243 Grant also had numerous instances of wreckless frontal assaults
@@calebhowell7008
Yes, but not any so disastrous and costly as the famous charge at Gettysburg. I believe it was a direct reference to that, and it would be a rather pointed reference. Frontal charges, although costly, had worked for Lee before. But this one truly proved that the strategy was no longer viable.
So you may say that Grant also had several reckless frontal attacks under his belt, but Robert Lee was much more well known for engaging in the practice.
@@ghostinthemachine8243 true and this cost him the war
General Johnson only Attacks when he had a Plan a good one
Jackson Attacks heads back Attacks heads back
Longstreet only want to fight when he holds the better battle ground
All three understand war can only be won with saving much man as possible and play of time
Lee never understand this
@@calebhowell7008 Grant had four frontal attacks that were unsuccessful and costly. Two were at Vicksburg, one at Missionary Ridge, and the one at Cold Harbor. The odd one was Chattanooga. The attack was only supposed to go as far as the base of Missionary Ridge. The troops then disobeyed their orders, and attacked uphill, where they carried the day. Sometimes, luck is better than skill.
A great video, well done. One correction though. The NPS renamed the Jackson Shrine to the Jackson Death Site about a year and a half ago. It does still say shrine on a lot of the printed literature, but that's just because of old stock. It supposed to get updated as new printings happen.
My mistake - it's been a few years since my last "pilgrimage." Should've checked in with Johnny Reb before filming. Thanks for the correction!
@@AtunSheiFilms no problem. It doesn't change the fact that the place was called a shrine for so long. And while no longer called that on the signs, a lot of people still very much treat it as though it was. The overall point you're making still stands. I'm just being nitpicky and pedantic.
@@Guntank214 Thank you for giving "the boot" to inaccuracy!
@@AtunSheiFilms Also note that one of the more comical monuments in the NPS is a small stone marker that commemorates where Jackson's arm was buried.
Building a shrine to anyone is goofy
An interesting fact, more about the Stonewall Brigade than Jackson, is that part of it technically still exists. The 166th Infantry Regiment of the 29th (The Blue and the Grey Division) Infantry Division. The division is part of the Virginia National Guard. The 116th can trace its lineage back to the 5th Virginia Infantry, one of the original 5 regiments in the Stonewall Brigade.
Also there are not units in the 29th Infantry Division that have Union ties so it shouldn’t really be the Blue and the Grey but that’s just a nitpick 🤷♂️
@@ryandvorak2066 There was, at one point. Hence the division name.
never would’ve imaged I would be thinking about Jackson being so endearing. His southern effeminate voice,hiding behind a door to prank his wife. And playing in nature with child like joy.
I recommend the novel Gods and Generals, which tells the story of the opening months of the Civil War from the perspectives of many key figures, including Jackson. I thought the author, Jeff Shaara, did a good job of capturing Jackson’s kooky personality
"To him it was a fixture of everyday life...like Facebook or Walmart."
Jesus, that's too apt.
A fixture that was eradicated after much bloodshed...
I’ll honestly be surprised if either of those enterprises outlives me. I’ll also be surprised if I don’t live to see the collapse of civilization but that may just be my sense of self-importance. In truth the collapse of civilizations is glacial. In this case, literally.
@Jack the Gestapo It's literally happening tho...
I have always felt like a modern day semi equilivent would be eating meat (emphasis on the SEMI). Most people know those animals are treated poorly, but we turn a blind eye to it. Meat eating is certainly a modern day fixture. I often wonder if future generations will look at those of us who are able to afford alternate dietary choices as monsters for supporting an industry that we know is inhumane when we have other options. And yes, I do eat a lot of meat, and don't buy the grass fed/free range stuff...
@@lhaviland8602 Where?
Stonewall Jackson: exists
Atun-Shei: "I'm about to *'Actually'* this man's whole career"
Actually this guy wasn't even a stonewall. While his name is stonewall, he was neither made of stone nor a wall.
@@baswdc2165 That's very true, as true as "you're not a limb".
@@baswdc2165 "Omg, Stonewall wasn't even his real name. What a fake."
He was a leader who could get his men to do ANYTHING. He was also a religious fanatic who held his left arm over his head because "there was too much blood in it", ie, a fucking whackjob. And he fought fanatically for a shitty cause. Great military leaders are quite often terrible human beings.
@@larryclese We could use a few more like him.
A speaker at my younger sister's high school graduation quoted Jackson. The "I'm safer on the battlefield than in my own bed" quote. Yeah, paraphrasing. I leaned over to my mom and mentioned how Jackson died and I must've gotten the timing perfect because she almost lost it from laughter. In the moment, I forgot that he was hit by friendly fire.
Longstreet was also hit by friendly fire at a spot near where Stonewall Jackson was hit by friendly fire. Longstreet recovered, The men responsible for hitting their own generals must have been mortified.
It sounds like he had a subset of OCD called scrupulosity, which I struggled with a lot in my teens. It can become hellish if you allow it to take over too much.
I see what you did there and needed to acknowledge that wicked good pun
Beyond the history, beyond the research, it's the tongue in cheek smart assed nature of this channel that I love the most.
Atun Shei Films is a lying channel.
They're probably paid by the US Gov in order to sway peoples opinions against freedom for Southerners.
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 why
@@mongopoe5099 Because he's either a really unfunny troll, or one of those Neo-Confederates that Atun Shei mentioned (tongue in cheek) that like him so much. If he actually answers any of this, I'll be surprised. If he replies without ad-hominem attacks, I'll be REALLY surprised.
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 Southerners have freedom, now on the other hand, the slaves they kept years back didn’t have freedom.
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 I imagine he's the type who'd vote for Brandon, and take anything his government told him too.
So a typical a human with strengths, flaws, and ambitions... normal I think (haha). Pretty interesting character though, and I never realized Jackson was OCD. Excellent video!
I think the case for him being on the autism spectrum might be somewhat stronger but it's pretty hard to be sure. Some of what we consider eccentricities might be the result of his experience in the Mexican War.
@@johnkilmartin5101 As in he had some PTSD?
@@cassuttustshirt4949 It changes men.
@@11Survivor No doubt about that! It's an interesting theory. And who's to say both aren't correct?
@@cassuttustshirt4949 mhm
I didn't think it was a waste of time at all, truth be told I feel like I learned a bit and now can ponder on our lack of knowledge.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! :)
This guy is one hell of a story teller. Please keep up this amazing content!
Academics usually are yet that's all they are😂 This clown would be spit shining boots he would never be on the front lines in a real battle
Too much of it was a story.
Jackson himself didn’t like being called “Stonewall.” He made it known to his subordinates on multiple occasions that name belonged to the “Stonewall” brigade. I think it was more fitting that his men were called the “foot cavalry” which more accurately represents his greatness as a commander. The union commanders in the valley campaign were shocked at how quickly and decisively he moved his forces. He would march his men at the quick step for 50 min and then give them 10 min of rest. That pattern would be repeated from well before dawn until well after dark, occasionally through the night and straight into an attack. His aggressiveness in battle was unparalleled and brought him much success, although it also contributed to several major blunders and even his own death.
"Jackson himself didn’t like being called “Stonewall.” He made it known to his subordinates on multiple occasions that name belonged to the “Stonewall” brigade." Citation? I wanna have a read!
So the real secret to his success was abusing his troops beyond what most generals would've thought reasonable?
It makes sense. In a decisive enough position, even the most exhausted troops can force an enemy surrender. Like you say though, I don't think he considered the long term consequences of this strategy.
The Valley Campaign represents his biggest strengths and weaknesses. Excellent operational mauver but pretty poor piecemeal tactics.
And it was only the First Brigade nicknamed "Stonewall".
@@Lady_Gaga95 Wikipedia
Jackson's status in the Confederacy is almost the same as Rommel's status in the Africa korps and the Atlantic Wall.
Both were viewed as military paragons and as well as having certain gentlemanly attributes and reverence to them.
But it is important to note that both person fought for an evil institution.
No way you just compared the confederate states of America to fascism.
@@Ricky_the_Georgian both entities were formed on disgusting ideologies, so yeah I don't see the problem here.
@@vehx9316 one wanted independence to govern themselves based on what there people wanted,
while the other wanted to take over the world and kill everyone they didn't like.
@@Ricky_the_Georgian and what do they want independence for ? To preserve chattel slavery, that's what. Moreover, the South was very expansionist, the US Mexican war was fought on behalf of the south to expand for new slave states, and the South salivated over conquering cuba and the american south to make new slave states there.
@@vehx9316 it's still a wild comparison, but you're entitled to your opinion.
So your telling me that a mythic figure was actually just a normal dude of his time for the most part? Who could have guessed
This informational video has been Turtle Approved
You are everywhere doing gods work
I really hope I am unapproved by the turtle cause screw turtles
HasL
Shellcialism is cringe
Yo a turtle
I recommend these videos all the time to budding historians for this incredible quality. But the one reason that rises above all the others is how well this fellow Yankee depicts the "historical fog" that covers _everything_ in history. Going deeper than the text and detailing the context in which these stories were made, and how faulty they can be, is absolutely crucial to becoming a fantastic, and seriously reliable historian.
A big ol' thank you from a fellow historian
I'm pretty sure he's wearing his Confederate cloak, can't see too well through the darkness of the vid.
@@11Survivor While he lives in New Orleans now, he's originally from Massachusetts, so he's a Yankee...
I like how one of the first descriptions of combat in the Gallic Wars complains that Rome's gallic allied cavalry screwed the battle up in some way despite the perfect efforts of the Roman soldiers. And then you go "oh yeah, Caesar wrote this." Context matters, maybe Caesar made a mistake but he had no reason to admit that in his memoirs.
Also he does funny little accents when he reads quotes. Really takes you back to the time 😌
We could of powered the world off the energy produced from John Brown rolling in his grave due to every time someone someone compared him to stonewall
Hahahaha
Exactly, Brown was not worthy to be compared to Stonewall
I must say, my good chap... This here youtube channel is some of the most entertaining educational content I have found on the platform. Kudos to you, sir and good day!
When you mentioned Walmart and Facebook being unchangeable fixtures it made my heart hurt remembering when they *weren't*
In time, even their stars will glimmer and fade.
if it like slavery its need millions good men blood to snuff it.
Bruh Facebook is dying
@@WhaleManMan It may not be the current social media fixture of the masses, but it is still chugging and will be for a while
@@WhaleManMan it's not. Facebook is also Instagram and WhatsApp
Wake up honey, atun shei films posted another banger
I once jokingly woke my girlfriend up from her sleep to let her know about a new Atun-Shei upload. She hit me.
@@devinodriscoll madlad
Atun Shei Films if filled with falsehoods & lies in order to strengthen the tyrannical US Gov.
I bet they are paid by the US Gov to spread those lies.
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 When all else fails, just create a conspiracy theory.
@@thealiachekzaifoundationof3822 Yeah yeah, and Santa Claus shot JFK.
Historians: Stonewall Jackson was an absolute mad lad
William Sherman: *Hold my March to Sea*
this is the best formatted video I’ve ever seen. Quick and precise information. No-nonsense. Simply decorated. Just very easy to listen to and digest.
"Dromedaries and sewing implements come to mind." Almost spit my coffee all over my monitor.
please explain, i didn't get it :c
@@cfv7461 me neither...
Biblical allusion. "It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.
Incidentally, this is probably a mistranslation. "Camel" and "Thick yarn" are only one letter different in old Greek. Frankly, think yarn makes a lot more sense than a *camel* of all things...
@@jpheitman1 OOooOOHHhhH
@@jpheitman1 Thank you for that insight. Thoroughly enjoyed the effort in figuring this out so rare it seems in our modern written communications. Thick yarn explaination will help me from mixing my metephors as i seem to constantly reference camel noses and tents with the "sewing implements". My doctrin is weak....
ready for someone to do the “REBEL YELLLLLLLLL” comment again
Yeeeeeee yeeee yeee yeeeee yeeeeeeee yeee yeee yeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!
THIS TIME THE WAR WILL BE SPIRITUAL
He chased 1,200 Mexican Soldiers with two then one Canons for 3 days in the Mexican/American War. There is a fantastic book by S.C. Gwynne called Rebel Yell. It has details about the Battles.
We need him in Texas.
@@MichaelMike-ob2gbStonewall Jackson and Nathan Bedford Forrest.
@@kurtsherrick2066 And Sherman to burn the damn intake centers. lol
Great channel! Glad I found it. One thing that’s always left out when talking about the civil war was that people had more loyalty to their home state then to the federal government.
I find the account of the “Stonewall” moment where a dying Bee is complaining about Jackson’s immobility to be so deliciously ironic that it just *has* to be the truest version.
‘Tis most grievous indeed that we will never know how exactly Jackson, er, evacuated his bowels. Generations of historians have spent chapters on this question to no avail!
O! Lament and despair!
Now for my Stonewall Jackson impression. "I'm a neurotic little boy obsessed with blood circulation. " That's da joke.....
ha ha ha ha. That is a funny joke. I am currently rofling on the floor laughing....
Hahahahahahahahh youre not funny dude
(Its a Simpson's reference if anyone doesn't know....)
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Yeah, I haven’t watched the Simpsons in years at this point, I assumed we were trying to make jokes as flatly as possible.
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I received a bachelors in history which has given me naught but a ceaseless howl for cited sources constantly rattling in the back of my brain. I cant tell you how grateful i am for all the citations you put in your vids.
I must admit, I don't see much of a dissonance between Jacksons piety and his actions during the war. If you believe that the system you're defending is divinely ordained, then those fighting against it must be all but in league with the forces of the devil. Thus visiting "divine retribution" upon those forces would be not only justified but required.
Jackson was a really fascinating human being, thank you for the video
Fascinating he was, no doubt. Likeable? Not really. Nor particularly admirable.
An explanation of why we can’t get into the mind of Stonewall Jackson is an acceptable alternative to actually getting into it
Stonewall Jackson was at the least extremely eccentric, but it often seems to go with the turf in the military world. Perhaps a commander has to be unbalanced to some degree in order to impose control over a collective insanity.
Man with the characters that you spoke of are the best generals prooven in history,ulysses grant was the same character as stonewall
@@user-hj8mz3hp3s Grant was a military genius despite having what we might now describe as "severe substance abuse issues." Had actually left the army after a stony career during the interval between the Mexican and Civil Wars.
@@russellbrown7028 one reason grant was better was superrior numbers and much more modern army and well paid than confederates.Also northern heavy industry was based in ohio michigan and illinois far far from battlfield,whereas only industrial state of south was gerogia that was devastated during shermans march.I d give my vote to Jackson because he fought against superrior numbers and one in some cases battle agains all odds
@@russellbrown7028 i call those characters usually pickheads/dickheads in my language,but in good terms.It means that they dont like undisciplined people and breaking some norms,thats when they get agressive
@@russellbrown7028 Jackson was about maneuver warfare, Grant was about frontal assault - NOT the same. Grant had the numbers and the equipment - Jackson did not. They are very different.
I don’t know why I’ve missed these videos in the past. Fantastic! Not only Informative but very funny and entertaining. I love learning but I might enjoy laughing even more? Great job!
I enjoy your constant debunking of civil war myths.
Frankly if Gods and Generals reconstructed Jackson with all his eccentricities and peculiarities and sheer enigma, it wouldn't be quite as terrible. Yeah, it's not much of a character, but neither is the "shining golden martyr whose only flaw was being killed before he could save everybody"
Gods and Generals is neo-Confederate porn, so, that is why Jackson is portrayed as a saint who dies a martyrs death. There are several places where I had to stop the movie to barf. But I made it through...
I don't think anyone can deny that Stonewall Jackson is a fascinating historical figure.
Could you expand on your statement?
@@miguelservetus9534 don’t be angry liberal
@@ncaa12cfb92 Wow, haven’t been called a liberal in about 40 years.
As you must know, General Jackson is revered and criticized by both the North and South. Just curious as to Dr. Brights perspective.
I thought I had crafted my question rather neutral. But you interpreted it differently. Fascinating.
@@miguelservetus9534 you sound mad about him liking Jackson so you’re obviously one of the liberals who likes to tear down monuments of historical figures
@@ncaa12cfb92 don't blow your head off, Fascist!!!!!!!!!
“The rapidly dwindling neo-Confederate community, who have nothing but nice things to say about me”😂😂😂
Well from one Historian to another, awesome work! I love that you add humor to your teachings. Hopefully, it will encourage young people to have an interest in history. P.s because you’re a Historian I can give you my opinion. That I would never say to my students. I do believe brigadier General Benard Elliott Bee Jr. Was referring to Jackson as a “ Stone Wall “ because Jackson didn’t commit his Forces as Bee’s men were getting slaughtered! JMHO
The quote I've heard is "There stands Jackson like a damned stone wall" which definitely doesn't sound as if it were intended as a compliment.
I’ll give Stonewall Jackson his due, I do believe his life story was very impressive, despite fighting for the Confederates. He always seemed to me as the American Military version of Rev.Dr Sacheverell. Mysterious, Impressive and Important.
I find it funny that when people sided when their homeland, even though the “cause” had some serious issues with it, people immediately demonize them and belittle there accomplishments.
@@ViktoriousDead Murder a couple thousand Americans and commit treason for the vilest institution in modern history and people demonize you! So unfair.
@@bencoomer2000 oh brother....
if it werent for the lost cause shit or the south's constant attempts to turn the confederate cause into a noble one, i think the confederates would be treated a lot more neutrally by historians.
unfortunately everytime someone praises stonewall jackson or confederate bravery it has to be coated with "but slavery is wrong and the confederates fought for slavery", just to disseminate historical inaccuracy and revisionism.
imagine if every time you talked about the vikings you always had to emphasize that "slaughtering saxons and stealing from churches is wrong".
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 exactly
Stonewall implies that he would've been really good at defending territory so his name is kinda odd
"My men have sometimes failed to take a position, but to defend one, never!" - TJ Jackson
could not find a single comment appreciating the amazing lighting. as an aspiring filmmaker, i am stealing your technique
Just used "applause" for the first time because I am so stoked about this format. Would love to hear more: Davis, Sherman, Grant, etc... Thanks for the high quality research.
You know, as much as I love the special effects in some of you past videos, simple ones like this with clear storytelling and you simply talking to the audience are my favorites... they just seem to create this personal connection with the viewer that no amount of animation or complex cinematography can match. Love these Civil War-related videos, thanks man!
It reminds me the days when television still had room to give a historian an entire hour to just sit behind a desk looking at the camera and speaking about a specific topic. Now we have people talking for no more than two or three sentences at a time and only one difficult word at a time interspersed with footage of actors standing doing little else but standing around smoking a cigarette to highlight this is the past when everybody smoked, which is followed by the same info recapped and retold about three times before they roll credits.
"Teach the slaves the word of god." That's the biggest hock of shit I've heard in a while. Great video
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@@doodlebug1820 that was the Israelites though. Yahweh was totally fine with them owning other people as slaves. Told them who, how much to pay, how to treat different slaves, who to let go and who to pass on to your kids, and even threatened to return the Israelites back into slavery if they didn't do what they wanted. Paul told slaves to obey their masters, even the cruel ones
@@gerrye114 "Paul told slaves to obey their masters, even the cruel ones"
Paul's views on slavery are far more complex than you are letting on. Paul says one should not be enslaved and slaves should take advantage of becoming free whenever they can (1 Cor. 7:21-23), abolishes distinctions between slave and free (Galatians 3:28), and uses his position as a spiritual authority within the church to persuade Philemon to manumit Onesimus (Philemon 15-16).
It should be noted that the passage your are quoting, Ephesians 6:5, absolutely does not say "obey your masters, even the cruel ones", you inserted that into the text. I would suggest reading verses 5-9, Paul says "slaves obey your masters as you would Christ" and then says "Masters, *do the same to them* and *do not* threaten them". Paul is clearly envisioning a very different dynamic here and to go back to Philemon, Paul is quite clear to Philemon that when he sends back Onesimus to him that Philemon that he is to be "no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother". So your idea that masters are allowed to be cruel to their slaves as consistent with Paul's ethics is completely invalid.
Paul does not call for abolition (though I'm unaware of any ancient author that does until perhaps St. Gregory of Nyssa's sermon condemning slavery as incompatible with the notion of man as being created in the image of God), but he clearly does not think the institution of slavery is fine and he isn't the only New Testament author with this sentiment: Revelation 18:13 is a denunciation of the slave trade and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 condemns enslavers.
@@ArdensSedVirens1 if that's the case, then Paul disagrees with Yahweh. Frankly I threw Paul in there just to include some NT crap on owning other people as property. The god character is very clearly ok with owning people
@@gerrye114 "if that's the case, then Paul disagrees with Yahweh."
I suppose you could interpret it that way, but religions are complex. Let's ignore Paul here and speak about some of Jesus' teachings and some other Jewish sects: The Old Testament presents a view on divorce that Jesus frankly did not agree with, Jewish law permits divorce but Jesus implies this was given by Moses, not God, and then proceeds to give an even stricter teaching on divorce. The Essenes were a radical Jewish sect that did not deal in slave trading and disregarded all sacrificial laws. I doubt either group were unaware of what the Old Testament says, but they nevertheless interpreted things different. To bring it back to Paul, he considers certain aspects of the Law (including the beating of slaves) to be utterly banned in light of Christ's coming and grace.
What a great channel, my friend. Great content and narration. Thank you !
Thank you. I enjoy all of your commentaries.
Are we in agreement that Gods and Generals would have been much better if THIS Jackson was in the movie?
Played by Gangs of New York era Daniel Day Lewis
@@stanleyrogouski (oh god Gangs of New York counts as a different era now)
Not really, as it still lionizes the rebels and makes Lee look less contemptible than he really was.
"That was like his signature move."
Yep. Just ask George Pickett.
This video is so well done keep making these
I just discovered your channel a few days back and I fucking love it dude!!!
I am enthralled with history and you are doing your channel so much better than other historical based channels. As a southerner it is a breath of fresh air to get the history from both sides with no bullshit propaganda attached to the subjects. Your pretty damned funny as well. Keep up the great work👍🏽🥀
He’s definitely one of the most interesting character in our history
I think that’s fair, he’s definitely one of the more well known eccentric of American History. Patton was also really weird, the man thought he was the reincarnation of a Roman Warrior, and was kinda a dandy with his shiny black helmet, matching revolvers and puffy cavalry pants.
@@InquisitorThomas History is filled with weird people and events. So that doesn’t surprise me with Patton.
History is filled with generals who were weird or eccentric Alexander the Great was famously an easily angered drunk who never lost a battle and died young.
More interesting than Chamberlain (his fellow college professor) because Chamberlain lived for decades after the war and wrote down just about everything. I wish the video had addressed how Jackson actually went from being bullied by 19 year olds into being able to order them to march 30 miles non-stop then throw themselves into battle.
But enough about Atun-Shei, what do you think about Stonewall Jackson?
Regardless of all the weird stuff, Jackson's results in the Valley Campaign were amazing.
Possibly the weirdest thing about Jackson is just how quickly he went from the genius of the Valley Campaign to the typical-Civil-War-subordinate blundering of the Seven Days.
@@yaitz3313 tbf no one was on there a game at 7 days
@@bobpobcf9723 Ain't that the truth. That was probably one of the stupidest battles of the war, for both sides. And the whole conflict was pretty damn stupid.
@@bobpobcf9723 Yeah, the Confederate success had more to do with McClellan losing his nerve than actual battlefield victories
One of your best Atun-shei
You’re my new favorite CZcams channel. Keep doing what you’re doing my guy.
"Sorry for wasting your time." Actually makes you feel guilty listening to this
The story I came to understand about how Jackson got his name was one of the staff was basically angry at stonewall for not falling back and was essentially just “standing there like a damned stonewall.” Essentially the story you told was always my understanding. And this is coming from a Tennessean raised in the south.
based tennessean
@@shronkler1994remember the USS liberty
This was a very interesting and informative take on Thomas Jackson. I learned some things today. Thank you!
Excellent video, thorough and thought provoking.
Nothing like listening to Atun-Shei while clipping your toe nails.
I was clipping my fingernails while watching this. Isn't that weird?
@@occam7382 Accidentally read that name as JEFF davis
@@denierdev9723, ohhhh, I see what you mean. Haha, good one. Actually, my real life nickname is Jed, so you were close, but not quite. I really should change my profile name, though.
@@occam7382 and I was eating my fingernails watching this
Ofc communists watch this channel
Dying Stonewall Jackson: Good sir, tell me, how bad does my arm look?
Doctor: Well general, you don't have to worry about that uneven arm of yours anymore.
Btw; your work is excellent! Thank you for every video you make!
On one hand, I'd almost say Jackson seemed like he was Born In The Wrong Century, and would have been at home as a landed Knight in the Middle Ages or the Renaissance.
But then again, the same thing would apply to practically all the southern Planters, who were LARPing as European Nobility and had to literally own other people to act out that fantasy.
Mark Twain was only partly jesting when he blamed Sir Walter Scott for Secession
Strap yourselves in for a Atun-Shei Films classic. Union boy, going dark.
Ah! A video about Stonewall Jackson, the Ned Flanders of the Confederacy!
McClellan was the Flanders. Stonewall was the crazy sailor with the peg leg in the Simpsons
Stonewall Jackson killed more u.s. soldiers than anyone in history. Not really a ned Flanders move.
I always enjoy your videos.
I loved every bit of this video. Thank you for making it so interesting. I subscribed to your channel and looking forward to the next one.
"dromedaries and sewing implements"
*nice*
That joke works on so many levels. Not many people seem to realize there are only two types of camel, and the dromedary would be much more familiar to the Judeans than any bactrian camels. This is the kind of historical accuracy I subscribed for.
I'm an uncultured fool, what was this joke referring to?
@@miketacos9034 Its a bible quote. Something like;
"Its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than it is for a richman to enter heaven"
Which is in itself a mistranslation from Arameic to Greek to Latin to English. Its speculated than "Camel" should read as "Rope".....which would make more sense
@@garyhendrick4391 according to some comment above, it wouldn't have been uncommon back then to use camel hair to make rope, so technically it could have been a correct translation, if the writer was making an attempt at humour
In these current times I find the wearing of pyjama bottoms beneath a uniform coat most fitting. After all, a lot of us watching this are wearing the same lower item of clothing
This should have been an April 1st video. Well done. I enjoyed it very much.
loved both the information, but also the low fire lit ambience
2:30 A video on John Brown would be soooooooooooooooooo cool
I remember an Encyclopedia Brown story where someone was offered an authentic Civil War sword. The inscription stated that it was offered to Stonewall Jackson for standing like a stone wall at the first Battle of Bull Run, with the date a few days after the battle.
Encyclopedia Brown said 'Don't buy it, it's a fake." Because... they couldn't have known a few days after the First Battle of Bull Run that there would be a second one. Also, the Confederates called it the Battle of Manassas.
I think of that every time I hear about Manassas/Bull Run!
Same!
Good video. Thanks 🙏
Thank you for the video, as always, it was thought provoking. That whole time frame is so rife with misrepresented, misunderstood, and just plain untrue historical claims that it is hard to find the truth.