Band saw Vs Chop saw - Scheppach MBS1100 Metal Cutting Band Saw 127mm - Review and modifications
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In this episode we are reviewing the Scheppach MBS1100 Metal Cutting Band Saw 127mm.
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A couple of tips:
* cut your flat on the short edge instead of the think edge - it stops the gullets of the saw teeth filling up and slowing the cutting speed.
* cut box section on the diagonal - it keeps the loading on the blade consistent rather than going from one very thick cut, to two thin cuts, and back to one very thick cut. There is a CZcams video somewhere that shows this reduces the cutting time about 30%.
* for new blades, reduce your blade speed significantly for the first few cuts to break them in for a longer life.
All good things to think about. Cheers J
Brilliant review Joshua - amazed at what the little saw will actually cut, looks to be very versatile. Love the little mods you did!
It’s great to have another video from you - always to the point and very interesting / informative etc, and excellently presented.
Thank you very much. I try my best. Hopefully more to come more frequently. Cheers J
A pleasure to view as always
Superb! Definitely one for my workshop
great review Joshua , thanks !!!!!!!
Great modification ❤😂🎉
Thanks for your honest review Joshua, it’s a tool that’s next on my list and I certainly like your idea of adding a pump mod and tray to it.
Just downloaded your horse head template and I’m going to reduce the size by 25% and make it an indoor display, fingers crossed it’ll come out as good as the Ram skull🤞 keep up the good work👍
Thank you so much. All the very best. Would love to know how you get on. Cheers J
Great video. I appreciate showing the 45° cut as most reviews dont bother showing that. I'm more inclined to go for this bandsaw because the mitre is adjusted on the saw itself and not just the fence like most. Makes it even more compact because your not moving your length of material. Thanks again.
Edit: And also cheers for including the saw blade size. Most sellers don't even specify this.
Thank you so much. cheers J
Top demo Joshua, cutting that 5"x2" solid was something!
Thank you. Cheers J
Brilliant video. Thanks
Excellent video, great info. Thanks for sharing, Cheers
Thank you. Cheers J
Excellent Joshua. Thank you!
Thank you for watching. Cheers J
Finally got to see this, that’s a great tool and I’m surprised some of the other manufacturers don’t have an equivalent ! Scheepacc tools do exist here in Australia but are rare and I have not seen this one. I will look for it!
Thank you Paul. I like it. So far it's working well. One of the pivot nuts came loose and made it go out of alignment which broke my first blade the other day. Otherwise it's easy to fix, maintain, change blades and modify for a cheap price. Cheers J
Hi Josh, my scheppach bandsaw has just arrived. On reading the manual, I noticed it says, "Never use liquid coolant for the metal bandsaw. The use of liquid coolants causes deposits on the rubber belts and reduces the cutting performance".
The only thing they didn't say was, it's Not to be used on metallic materials 🤭 and by the way, my bandsaw came with 2 blades (purchased from Aldi online) made of steel, not rubber 🤣😂🤣 I've found the pump, tube and tap (thanks for the amazon link), so I'm just about to go on the hunt for a stainless steel baking tray and cutting fluid. Cheers dude👍🏼
Great review 👌
I've been looking for a little bandsaw for a while, think I might go for this one. great review
Thank you. cheers J
Great video.
Bought the Scheppach mbs1200 based on this video and it's amazingly good for the price!
Also bought extra blades from tuffsaw, thanks 👍🏼
Bella idea 👍👍👍👍👍👍grazie, saluti dall’Italia 🇮🇪
Great video just bought one after watching. I need it to cut some 50 mm box section at 45 degrees
All the very best. I'm still going to modify mine further so it will cut more accurately and with the bump stops I mentioned. I'm very satisfied with the performance and the price. Take care. Cheers J
Excellent stuff 😁
Thank you. Cheers J
Evolution rip saw with a festool crosscut rail ftw! Cheers josh 👍
I agree they are excellent when needed. Cheers J
Can't wait for all these tasty breakfast shows coming up 😁
More regularly I hope. Cheers J
brilliant video, well done
Thank you. Cheers J
Its so nice!
I have both saws except my bandsaw is just portable. I really want a bandsaw chop saw because it is cheaper to operate. One thing I can say about the evolution is it works good with coolant. I use a spray bottle and spray every 3-5 seconds and it keeps the temps down and helps make the blade last a bit longer. Thanks for showing this I might do the exact same thing cheers.
Thank you. I also use mine as a vertical saw too. Cheers J
Also, as I've got more experience cutting steel I've also started appreciating the cut width of various tools. The band saw has a fairly narrow cut of about or less than a mm, while most large discs (whether its abrasive or tungsten) tends to be several mm wide.
Cut width is called kerf.
@@TheFabricator03 thank you very much, I’d newer heard that word ever before! If I’d know I would’ve used it to sound much more authorative to the audience of this video that also most likely haven’t heard of it.
Scheppach it is then, thanks for the video and insights! 👍
Thank you. More to come. Cheers J
Very nice video … I’ve been wondering what to do for a cheap cut saw … now I know … thanks
Thank you. Cheers J
use one of these other brand but excactly the same, works great. one point is the clamp, i have repair it twice already. after some time it would not resist the pressure of sawing again the clamp it slips, the material comes lose and the saw will break. dismanteling the clampsystem welding the hole and drilling or filing will repair it. the more expensive one has a spindle to clamp, flawless.!
Just got this saw and I have used it several times, I made the mistake of putting cutting oil on the blade , it was oil specifically for cutting and drilling, not cooling really, but it at first made the drive wheel slip, funny though I eased off the tension and it sort of came back to life. I gave it a good cleaning up after with break cleaning spray.. the test I did was to cut up a drive shaft , I must say it sliced through it like butter, the oil smoked a few times but it was almost cutting under its own weight.. I think the vice cam if kept clean will be okay but perhaps a thread would be a more robust solution, but let’s face it , it’s a home use tool that is just a handy tool for the workshop. It’s not for professional use all the time. I give it the thumbs up..
Thank you Steven. Mines still going good. I broke a few blades and it's a little rusty in parts but otherwise no problems. Cheers J
It's amazing that so many sellers out there that stick their own brand names on these saws , perhaps with slightly different colour casings and all claim them to be their own, I have actually seen probably 5 or 6 different versions of exactly the same saw...
@@stevenrolfe1918 yeah they're all made in the same factory without a doubt. Good saws though. Cheers J
Safety gloves my arse! Real men know how to handle sharp stuff!
Ha ha! Yes exactly
And then just stick duck tape to stop the blood flaw ;)
@@ocAToccd duck tape is yesterday, superglue is much quicker!
Hi Josh the model I have is from Aldi Work Zone range identical to your machine online only I have had it for 2 years no issues I think I might take your coolant idea currently using an oil can with cutting oil another great video 👍
Good to know yours is working well. £20 to give it a pump and tray will help it further. Well done. Cheers J
Agree on the cut-off switch, not so much for safety but so you don't have to babysit the thing on thick cuts.
Thank you. cheers J
I like your shed man
Thank you. Cheers J
Great review, I have a Milwaukee hand held bandsaw which I use in a stand and handheld and know how useful they are. This would certainly be up there as an alternative to a bigger floor mounted model when space is at a premium.. thanks Joshua
Thank you Gary. I thought of getting the Milwaukee version but cheaped out on this one. Did you make your stand or did you buy one? Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle I only got the Milwaukee as it was secondhand on eBay! I made the stand based on one done by black bear forge.
@@garyhuston nice!
It’s cool to see two of my favourite CZcamsrs having a chat 🤣🤘
nice to see an honest review . I nearly wept when you cut up those forks though , they bring a premium about these parts .
They were decommissioned because they bent the latching parts on them so they were scrap. Thank you and all the very best. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle id guessed that , but they are a nice bit of stuff ,, hope they end up as something interesting .
@@tomthompson7400 thank you. Lots of tools and axes probably. Cheers J
he has no forklift, but he has a use for good steel
Iv just bought the lidl parkside tools equivalent to this so im glad u think its alright as iv not had the courage to try mine yet, although i did put it together and had to tighten the bolt of the arm as it was a bit of a wobbler.... But otherwise seems good.... Definitely gonna have to get me a basting tray now!!
Yes mate! Well done. Good quality blades and cutting fluid makes the difference. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle nice thanks mate, i also had bought some Westway cutting fluid so ur video couldnt have been more on point lmao!!! And i got ur horses head plans for my birthday so its about i gave that a go too!! Ps Im a big fan..... Kee up the good work 😉👌
@@AlmightyRem thank you. Any problems let me know. All the very best. Cheers J
Tuffsaws are excellant, I use their bandaw blades for my Joinery business and they are excellant quality. Scheppach use to be a name of quality in the Woodworking business but like many companies it's all made in China/Taiwan now. It never surprises me how many Machines are made in China using the old European names from once quality companies but Chinese quality (or lack of) rather than European quality. Guess people just want cheap rather than quality tools and machinery , look short term rather than longterm . Buy twice cry twice as they say. Really enjoying this channel since subscribing.. 🙂
Perfect miter saw.
thanks the info sir
Thank you. Cheers J
Great review! Interested in this saw as well, but the difficult adjustment of cutting angle worries me a bit. Did you find a way to those adjustable bump stops you mentioned?
Not yet but I will on the next job that needs lots of mitres cut. The adjustment is fine for now but just requires a few checks before proceeding to cutting which take a little time. Still faster to adjust than my other chop saw. Cheers J
I've got a cheapy HF on a SWAG v3.0 and it works great. I was about to get that Evo for 500 and saw how much the blades cost. I'm just gonna get me another saw with a horizontal base, you can't beat the bandsaw blades. Seriously, $120 a pop on those blades and they last less than the bandsaws, forget it.
Interesting to spot this one in your back catalog, I have the 'aldi' version of this same saw from when they were selling them cheap. I wound up making a vertical stand for mine and designed a 3d printed trigger latch, and a little 'puck' that the handle fits over that made it very fast/easy to set it up on the vertical (both available on thingiverse). It hadn't occurred to me to try adding coolant for use with the table it came with, certainly an interesting setup I'll keep in mind.. Not sure if you're still using the tool a year+ on, after about a year of use the tire on the drive wheel of mine managed to come adrift and get itself wrapped around the axel and snap. It was a massive pain to source replacements so I wound up modelling the wheel/tire and making a 3d printed mold to cast a new one in rubber which is holding up well.
Thank you. Yep still use it especially on thick stuff. I want to make a stand for the suds tray with a depth stop for my new workspace. I love the fact it's light and can pack easily under my bench. Sometimes when I want to use it as a vertical saw I just clamp a bar in a vice and hang it on it. Did that I'm my aluminium pond cover video. Cheers J
If your 3d printer can use it, try using TPU to make the tyre. I'e even used it to make timing belts that will not snap!!! He mentions tuffsaws in this vid & I use them for wood bandsaws & bought blades for this bandsaw & they make a massive difference. I fixed the off center wheel by boring it out on my lathe & added shim stock to fill the gap!!! It's not the shaft, it's the machining on the cast wheel
@@Arckivio I tried tpu once and didn't have success. I should really give it another try. That said my cast rubber one is still going great.
Nice one Joshua! Looked at those saws but wasn't sure
I'm pleased with it. Little tweeks here and there. Very cost effective especially to replace blades. Cheers J
Thanks for the review. Is there any issue sitting the saw in the coolant? I know the water soluble cutting fluids contain rust inhibitors but just wondering if you've seen any problems after (I'm guessing) a few months?
Hi Matt. It's all still good. However I have noticed the bolt heads on top have started rusting but that's also because my shed condensates water in the air also so I think that would happen in or out of the tray. The cutting fluid I believe is preserving the rest nicely but iv started coating the bolt heads with a protective oil when doing maintenance and cleaning out the tray.
Good review Joshua. Looks quite accurate for a small machine big plus for hobby use is low noise compared to chop saw and it’s not spreading dust around ,add in the cheaper cost of blades also it looked like it got thru that fork tine easily. ? must have one
Thank you. I think with these type of items it's the quality of the consumerbles that is the key. Good quality blades and cutting fluid made the difference. The saw itself just needs to have enough torque and have enough adjustments to be straight which at £198 was great. My chop saw blades are far to expensive to use daily, too noisy and doesn't cut as accurately. Chop saws however do cut faster and cleaner when the blade is new. I expect the band saw blades to last me a few years before I replenish them. Our industrial saws at Suckley engineering use similar blades and last us months and are used every day. Cheers J
Low noise? You must be joking, only buy this if it has induction motor
brilliant
Thank you. Cheers J
I have the evolution but i was building a gas forge so got an £80 circular saw for steel a few weeks ago its amazing went through 10 mm mild steel 18" across like a wood one going through 19 mm plywood , under a min easily , was contemplating a battery portaband but not sure i have any use for it , any reason you went plugged instead of battery ?
Hi. I loved my chop saw until I had to replace the blades more often than our industrial band saws at work and they get used every day. Your right though they cut fast with a new blade. This was the only band saw I could find with a decent chop stand for less than £200. All the battery versions didn't have a stand and I didn't see the point in making a stand when this one has one with it. A Milwaukee M18 was a temptation though. Cheers J
Just had this video pop up great vid i like the coolant idea i dont have a bandsaw but have used battery one's and a few corded the company i workfor hire in for certain things i personally have a makita 18v 150mm metal cutting saw this gets a lot of use very handy i use 136mm blades cheap ones on ebay also have a evolution 230 metal cuttins saw and a evolution 355 saw all great the 230 is a lump though i get most of the blades of ebay you can get good prices i put cutting wax on the blades seems to help
Thank you. And great tips. Cheers J
The vice of these saws has been heavily criticised elsewhere. Mine does slip at times. The cam action is not the best design. Shame they never used a proper ‘screw’ vice. Overall I love my Workzone version of the bandsaw. It is identical.
Great review 👏👏👍😀
Thank you. I like the cam version for quick operation. Not had mine slip yet but if it does it maybe something I can modify or just add a an extra clamp for certain projects. All the very best. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle I agree, the cam does indeed make for a fast operation. I have had to add an additional clamp from time to time, but generally on stock that is on the long side.
I have this saw and the only thing which sucks is the vice. After some time, it loses the hold and the rattling is inevitable. I have to modify it or make some different type of holding the piece.
I just bought a Ryobi brand saw which is identical to this one.
On my Parkside (Lidl) version the blade slips under any load!
NB since the blade supplied was actually broken inside the machine I bought a box of Milwaukee blades of the same dimensions, it is those blades which slip - could there be some subtle dimensional difference despite being nominally the same size?
Maybe or the tensioner is Brocken. I would check to see what movement the tensioner has. Or it's labelled for the wrong blades as a typo. Cheers J
Hi, super nice demo, i got a similar bandsaw, but i have a problem that the blade often jumps off the wheel, inside the machine, even if i fasten the band tensioner pretty good.
Did you ever have that problem?
Hi Martin. I'm very sorry to hear that but I've not had that problem... How long have you had it and could you take it back? If using cutting fluid are you using water soluble or straight cutting oil? It maybe an alignment issue although the bearing guides should keep the belt on. Are you sure your belts are the correct size or are they slightly loose at all? Cheers J
Is the pivot adjustable enough to open the saw up to 90 degrees and use the saw as a vertical band saw? Could you make a table to secure in the vice?
Hi. It opens upside down so you need to take it off the stand. Check out my recent pond cover video as you can see my simple vice mounting. Cheers J
nice cheap saw. thx for rewiev! very usefull
Thank you. Cheers J
Could you make the bandsaw vertical for free hand application?! Have you tried?!Thanks for uploading this 👍🏼
I got a Chinese blade for the evaluation cost £20 had it for a while now use it every day so we’ll worth it 👍
Nice to see !I have the elevotion rage 2 !But i think the band saw is better !Because it is slow !Greeting #Bulatsschmiede 😊🤙
Just bought one
Well done 👍 I love mine
The belt does not slip on the wheels when coolant is applied?
Nope. cheers J
Great vid! Question: How is the vise clamp doing after a year? And with the cooling fluid don't you have problem due to the saw blade can slides on the wheel/disk? I just ask these things because I have a same one and I like your ideas, even I am going to improve them a bit, but first I am curious about your long term experiences. Thanks.Cheers
Hi. Clamp still works fine. No blade slipping. I don't have it in the tray anymore as I like to put it away after use but I still use cutting fluid as a spray because it makes the blade last a lot longer. No damage to the rubber on the wheels either. Lots of fluid will cause a little rusting depending on how diluted it is. Cheers J
Using a grinder with a cutting wheel takes a lot of skill to get it right, whatever the angle the cut is at. These bandsaws are more accurate and convenient of course, but there are times only a grinder can be used i.e. large box, large angle iron or I beams etc.. A skill noone can overlook really so don't 'write off' a grinder straight away for your workshop.
What coolant is that you’re using? Please keep your videos coming
Sorry in advance if this is a blindingly stupid question - but do any of the metal 'filings' get carried by the fluid into the pump and ruin it? Or are they relatively so heavy that they settle out before reaching the pump?
Hi. The filings are small enough to pass through the pump no problem. The way is positioned makes it difficult for filings to enter anyway. I did think to add a filter but found it unnecessary. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle thanks!
Please stop pandering to the trolls, don't apologise. Nice review, I'm currently looking at one of these.
Thank you. Your very kind. I love my saw, still going good. Cheers J
I had this model sent it back within a month. The blade wouldn't stay on, It wobbled like mad. Didn't cut square, when the blade flew off it took out the guide bearings. The drive wheels have bronze bushes not proper bearings which may explain the wobble.
Sounds like a dodgy one. At least they took it back. Would you upgrade to another brand?
Как станок по мощности?
Помпа для сож с аквариума?
Что в итоге купил?
Thanks for your review,very informative, great stuff.....would this cut 3mm thick aluminium OK?
It sure does. Cheers J
I wish I could buy one of these bases for my Milwaukee
That's what put me off buying a Milwaukee one. I like my Milwaukee tools otherwise. You can fabricate one but it's a bit of work. Cheers J
Is that the same pump as the one from the induction forge video?
Yes it is! Cheers J
my manual specifically said not to use liquid lubricants… any negative effects?
Nope. You've got to be careful not to get liquids in the electronics I guess. So far all has been fine using proper cutting fluid. Bearings and seals are so far fine and haven't seen any degrading on the rubber wheels as of yet. Bands will last far longer and cut better if you use cutting fluid in my opinion. Cheers J
Hi Joshua love your videos I have a similar workshop to you and bought the same bandsaw and I love mine,but when I added lubricant the blade slipped so stopped but I used wd40 have you had any slipping cheers Alan.
Hi Alan. WD40 is no good as a cutting lubricant. I noticed a big difference when using it for drilling and then switching to soluble cutting oil. Your better to use just water than WD40 but it will rust exposed metal obviously. WD40 is great for most things just not cutting. Cheers J
For 200 pounds u couldn't go wrong a brilliant little saw
Top video mate. Well edited and explained. Could you say your views on a traditional metal cutting disc on a metal chop saw compared to the band saw or even the tungsten disc on the chop saw. Cheers
Too Loud, wears out too quick and expensive to replace blades. Is how I feel about the chop saw.
@@joshuadelisle I agree with the noise and shit it kick up. It’s deafening.
Really good videos bud. Not over the top or too much. Thanks for the reply. keep it up.
If you happen to remember what tooth pitch did you go for on the blade and hows it working out for you?
I got 10/14 vari tooth. Still good for most things. Cheers J
I bought a saw based on your clip. thanks alot. I just have a few questions. Has the cooling liquid caused any slipping of the blade? Have you done anything about keeping the swarf out of the pump? Would you still recommend adding the cooling? Thanks Mark
Hi. Not had any slipping. Not done anything about the pump yet. It has gotten blocked in the tube a couple of time but a quick blow and it was fine. I will add a filter of sorts at some point. Only issue I had which broke my first blade was the pivot nut came loose once and so it came out of Alignment. Otherwise it's great and been using to cut all sorts. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Thanks, I will also try and cobble some kind of filter. Glad yours is working well. Cheers M
Dónde podría yo comprar esta máquina y qué precio tiene parece ser que es buen material
Brilliant idea with the coolant, have you had any issues with it getting in to the motor or electrics
Thank you. Nope no problems as of yet. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle awesome, thanks for the reply 👍
Like if you... Saw it!
cutting costs, boom boom
@@stevecaptin007 yes mate!
@@joshuadelisle Definitely like 👍
Wow what max box will it do? And we're do you get the pump things 🙋 new subscriber
Thank you. I've cut 100mm with it and there should be a link in the description for the pump. Otherwise a quick search on Amazon should find it. Cheers J
Joshua, what cutting fluid are you applying ?
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Hi I was really shocked when you started cutting that forklift fork mate wow but the saw didn’t with no issues…
Anyway I looking for horizontal band saw for quite some time but they are very expensive 😏 and then I seen your video…
… should I bay it ?🤔
I still use it now. Well worth it in my opinion but you need quality blades. Cheers J
Ok mate I will get one- you look like trustworthy person the way you talk and look as well 😬🙈 thanks J
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's not advisable to using cutting fluid or coolant with these saws, as it will mess up the rubber tires on the drive and idler wheels. Though I do like your pump and tray design. I just have misgivings about long term condition of the tires. Full size bandsaw wheels are all-metal, so don't have that issue.
They're still good so far. Cheers J
Power Hacksaw! (if you have enough space for one of those old monsters)
I had a monster donkey saw at my old place. It was good but not as fast as a band saw.
@@joshuadelisle Yes, that makes them cheap on the second hand market, everybody wants a bandsaw, but for 250mm cutting capacity bandsaw blades and the saw itself are rather expensive, powerhacksaws in this size are traded for around 300€ without shipping and the blades cost less than 20€
They are very obsolete by now, but if you have a limited budget and the need to cut large stock they are still a good option.
2:46
Not very precise cut yeh?
You fixed this?
It takes a bit of adjustment but I get good cuts. Cheers J
Aren’t these meant to be a dry saw ? Won’t adding fluid make the blade slip ?
Nope it's the same blade type we use on our industrial saws at Suckley engineering which are all lubricated. I would also suggest lubricating a chop saw even though they are dry. Just not with WD-40 and use instead proper cutting oil.
@@joshuadelisle cheers fella might try this on mine then 👍👍
Most portabands are run dry, it depends on the drive traction as most will slip if lubricated or cooled etc👌🏼🤙🏼
hello, after 10 months of use, what can you say about the lubrication. does it damage the blade drive rollers? I have the similar model of the Parkside brand but the user manual advises against lubricating the blade. Thank you.
Still good, cheers J
Do you have the dimensions of the tray you bought, a direct link to it would be even more appreciated.
Link in description. Cheers J
Just bought one 🤞 I have a dewalt 355mm drycut but cutting any thick material just roasts the blade , so I bought a 250mm cold saw for doing solid stock .. blades are half the price of dewalt… only problem is it’s increadibly unportable 🤣🤣 . Fingers crossed this fills the gap 🤓 they’ve been out of stock almost since you made this video 🙄😖 .. just saw one pop up for under £200 and bought it🤪
Well done. Mine is still going great. Cheers J
Well impressed with it 🤠.. it even fires the chips forward so thier easier to sweep up without having to move the saw 👌🤣🤣 I’ve apsolutelyy hammered the blade . Cutting chromed steel ( which destroys high speed carbide tips ) thru welds thru carbon steel pipe and it’s only lost 4 teeth 🦷 .. probably just the soft ones near the weld 😉.. thanks for pointing this saw out to me 😇👌☺️
I’ve been looking to buy a metal cutting band saw for a while now but I haven’t been able to find anything at a decent price here in the US if anyone knows of a good brand where I don’t have to spend 2000 that would be cool
Apparently Harbour freight does one but not sure if it comes with a stand. Milwaukee does a stand for theirs but it doesn't do 45° cuts last time I looked. It maybe a standard hand held and a DIY Chop stand until something comes available.
I have a very similar setup made by King Canada. The saw ( KC-8377) and stand (SS-8377) come separately. I have no idea if they are distributed in the US, but maybe worth a check? I bought mine at KMS tools. Maybe they ship across the border?
I had three of the same issues with mine: the wheel wobble, the vague angle setting, and the skew at the bottom of a long cut. Not surprising as I think they may come from the same factory. :) I found that supporting the saw through the latter parts of a long cut pretty much eliminates the skew. Seems as the body swings down, the increased weight causes the cut to go a bit sideways. I use a spring clamp on my trigger - open to other ideas for that... Apart from those things though, it has worked great and has been a very good value.
I have the same saw. The clamping gave up clamping after 2 weeks and the fact that the blade is cutting away from the fixed fence, is a idiotic construction failure! But yes: the blade is good.
Josh, do you still like the Scheppach saw after four months now? Thinking about buying one for my workshop ...
I love it. I've used it lots recently and not change the blade once. Still haven't put adjustable stops on it yet but will soon.
@@joshuadelisle Great, thanks for your quick response!
I used to do things the safe way but i stopped caring
Lol
So it's worth the money? It was 1 / 3 of the price from some other brand.
to me it is. works well, cheap enough to modify if it needs it, simple enough to fix most problems if it breaks. will have paid for it self quickly. might not last as long as another brand with industrial use. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle thanks
They made them for Aldi....even cheaper .
Unfortunately, blades don't last long with this saw, I've replaced 6 blades in 4 month since I've bought the saw. 5 of 6 blades were bi-metal 14/18TPI and one just plain M42, all blades have cracked and then snapped completely after 30-50cuts (last two blades made only about 15cuts) while all teeth were intact and as sharp as new, however, a non bi-metal blade indeed had lost some teeth afterall. The speed dial has never been set above 2.5 and feed has always been very gentle, so blades had never been even warm let alone hot. The only reason blades quit fast I can think of is that 14/18TPI blades don't like cutting thin (1.5-2mm) square pipe which has too thin walls for this tooth step. Maybe 24TPI blades will stay intact longer, at least I hope so.
Do you use a cutting solution? Thin steel can bind easily so taking it slow and making sure it's not pinching is a good idea. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle A little bit of WD-40 does the job just fine. Greater amounts of oily fluids can easily lift rubber wheel bandage off the aluminium wheels, this is kind of dangerous situation for a blade because it donesn't simply slips off the wheels, detached bandage can stuck in the cage and block and overstress the blade itself.
@@deepdimdip I think you'll find WD 40 is what's wearing the blades out. For a long time I used it for cutting and eventually discovered it was not great at all and actual cutting fluid is 1000% better. Even plain water is better despite rusting.
@@joshuadelisle Oh, that's interesting. I can try other lubricants, but I can't understand how a particular lubricant is related to wearing blade's body. The problem is the teeth are not wearing out at all, it is the blade's body that's failing. First a small barely noticable crack appears between a couple of teeth, then it gradually grows a bit every time this piece of blade cuts materal and when this happens the entire saw body jumps up with increasing amplitude and finally after few revolutions the blade snaps and then it's over.
@@joshuadelisle p.s. The main reason I went for WD-40 is that it evaporates relatively quickly on its own and shouldn't theoretically create problems in the long run by accumulating on the wheels etc.
Wouldn't the chop saw have been much faster cutting, though?
And of course, Evolution use their own spindle size so you can't use blades from other manufacturers.
They have a good blade though, best on market for price and Quality and even come in better than the expensive brands. Check in CZcams for people testing blades. You'll be very surprised at Evolutions Blades