The Ultimate Guide To Metal Cutting Saws. From Hobby to Pro!
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- In this video I give you a comprehensive run down on metal cutting saws. Ill go through inexpensive consumer grade saws, all the way up to pro level shop saws. Ive used every type of saw on the market, and every one has its purpose. If you are looking to start, or expand on your metal working, knowing whats out there can be a huge advantage!
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00:00 - Intro
1:12 - Chop Saws
7:15 - Circular Saws
10:00 - Cold Saws
13:29 - Porta Band (Vertical)
15:38 - Porta Band
17:12 - Vertical Metal Bandsaw
18:30 - Benchtop Horiztonal Bandsaw
20:51 - Large Horizontal Bansaws
24:14 - Conclusion
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The "Dad's saw" story was nice to include. I have an old shovel from my Dad. Those thoughts add to the enjoyment, in my opinion.
Thanks for the video.
KK
1. Still best maker intro on YT
2. One thing helps viewers on sped up vid segments- show the speed multiple &/or the machining time like you did on the abrasive cleaning vid on the old vise or just verbalize it on completion
Ive watched this a heap of times ever since it was uploaded.
You helped me choose a bandsaw.
Thank you for sharing the knowledge. I’m a blacksmith and toolmaker and struggling to find the right metal cutting saw for my projects. This helps a ton!
Once again your knowledge is so helpful to all .
Great Video Chris
Excellent video on comparison of all--all types of metal cutting saws. Very professional video, descriptions, printed costs, pros & cons, watch actual cutting of solid bar & tube. Well done Sir! A++ !👍👍👍🍺
My new favorite show includes one of my favorite wood workers, April Wilkerson and then who shows up on their third or fourth show? CHRIS! You were great and totally blasted the competitor in Assembly Required! I told my wife, this guy will totally wipe the other guy out and you did! CONGRATS!! Great job as usual!!!
THANK YOU!!! I really appreciate you tuning in!
This is a super helpful video, Chris. Thanks for sharing it with us!
I would like to see a video about drilling holes in metals especially (round) bars so we can weld them together nicely to make a fence or a frame.
I have an 80-90 year old power hacksaw.
Its quiet and it cuts through big material like butter.
It's got a hydraulic lift so you are only cutting with the blade in one direction. It has flood cooling.
I think I paid 300 for mine. It's really big too. It infinitely adjustable.
And the blades are really easy to find.
I love the thing. I put a piece of material in there start it up and I can make a phone call while its running.
It turns off when its done.
It weighs about 400 lbs.....
It's super accurate and the finish on the cut is outstanding.
They are really hard to find. Everyone who's seen mine has wanted one. I only know of two who have found one.
Great video. Super impressed you removed the battery from the circular saw before handling the blade. Nice to see someone who works safely.
Thanks for watching!!!
he probably just doesn’t want to get hurt or killed. i don’t think his intent was to impress you. 🤔
I’m super impressed by you being impressed by this
Nice presentation, I like that you covered the whole topic with video and descriptions. I got a some good stuff from it. Even with years of experience in cutting different materials. The basics covering the portable band saws gives me a thought for my setup.
On the evolution saw i use on old pair of vice grips on the end being cut off. Clamp it on and it will keep the material from flying anywhere.
WOW. I've seen all these tools in different shops, but never in 1 shop! Closest 2nd was at a shipyard. Thanks for sharing. I still use abrasive saw like your inherited one for the reasons you pointed out. I use a carbide blade and reostat control to slow it down a bit also.
Thanks for the great video. I found a Powermatic 143 at a garage sale years ago at a bargain price and it is also my favorite saw. I bought rolls of bandsaw blade stock on eBay and a Harbor Freight bandsaw blade welder because of the cost of blades. There were many failed attempts to anneal the weld, but finally I turned off the shop lights and could see the color of the metal easier. My success rate went way up and I no longer worry about breaking a blade.
Very nice video this week Chris. Great info thanks. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Can't wait to see ur next videos. Fab On. Keep Making. God Bless.
One hell of a set up Chris. Definitely a big help.
Outstanding summary! Most definitely do a metal drilling segment.
Thanks from the uk. Excellent comprehensive video mate
Well done! This is a very helpful run down to metal cutting.
I've often wondered if a site could be set up to look just at specific time spots and Yahoo, I see you have done it, fantastic, also I love the way that you put the various items to purchase in the way you did, you are obviously a damn smart person and very practical and I am going to be watching you and appreciating your expertise, thank you thank you thank you
Really great video, and helped me chose the right tool. Best comparission on youtube. Thanks
In my shop I run only one tooth pitch on the 350 cold saw and that is a corse pitch and high speed on all thin tubing up to 5mm Thick over that or solid I use slow speed. I find with this setup I get the most number of cuts per sharpening as I use the saw daily. For some ideas on the drilling video I use a wood splayed drill when drilling plastics as they don’t bite as hard and Clean out better.
zep! this was the video i needed! love ya pal!
I bought a new Milwaukie cold saw, $600 Canadian, first piece of metal I cut was 1/16" wall 1/2" square tube, it jammed right as it was finishing the cut and ripped off three of the teeth, that blade was done, bought a new blade for $160 Canadian, next I tried to cut 1/8" X 2" angle iron with the outside corner up, blade went dull instantly, so I installed an abrasive disk, used the saw for about a week and oil started running out of the gear box, sold the saw for $200, went back to my Milwaukie abrasive saw I had since they were first sold.
I’m shocked you had that experience. I’ve made literally thousands of cuts with mine… I use the Diablo cermet blades they are about $40us, and work great. I have noticed if the battery is low it’ll run slower and cause more binding…
So good mate thank you! Have upgraded from a 5 and a 9 inch grinder to a BOSCH cold cut saw 😆
Thanks man! This was an extremely helpful video!!!
Fantastic video! Very valuable information! Thanks Make Everything!
Awesome video. So much info. Just what I needed
Awesome run thru, thank you for sharing all these options
Great video! You’re the Cut Metal Man!!
Great informational video. Love my port-a-band. Mahalo for sharing! 🙂🐒
You forgot the old trusty angel grinder. 😂Awesome video anyway 👍
Thanks for sharing all this good information. Very useful.
Thanks for the video. Really informative
Excellent review of a broad range of saws, thanks!
At this time I have the abrasive chop saw, Evolution shop saw and a band saw with coolant. I don't use the abrasive saw much but have it for hardened steel. Love the Evolution saw it is my newest. But now I want one of those Milwaukee battery saws. Thanks for the video.
Incredibly informative!
Well done, thank you for the clear explanation and demo
This is the exact video I needed. Thank you
Excellent review. Thanks.
The problem with abrasive saws is not only the huge amount of hot metal sparks, but the large amount of fiberglass and abrasive dust that spreads throughout the shop, linger in the air for hours. You breath that in, which is very unhealthy, and the abrasive powder gets on, and sometimes in, other machinery, damaging slides, bearings, etc. you need to at least wear a good dust mask, and safety glasses. If you must use one, it’s best to use it outdoors, weather permitting.
My Diablo cermet blades on my 14” saw are made for steel and stainless steel (same blade). I’ve had one for two years, and it still works well. About $65-70. Not expensive. A stainless blade usually costs between $110-140. That’s expensive!
Wear hearing protection with ALL these saws, even the bandsaw. They are LOUD, and will damage your hearing. Guaranteed. Metal cutting is loud, even if you don’t think so.
It’s true that small bandsaw blades cost less, but because they’re shorter, they wear out faster. A 32” blade will wear out twice as fast as a 64” blade, which will wear out twice as fast a a 128” blade, which is close to the standard blade for a 14”-16” bandsaw.
I put my respirator on when I start working in my shop and leave it on until I'm done. Sucks when it's hot, but my boogers stay clean! LOL
@@wannabejeeper nothing worse than dirty boogers.
Thanks for your detailed video
Nice video, I’m now looking for a saw for my tiny shop for months. Your video help me out a lot! 🙂👍🏻
Any dry cut metal saw with the carbide teeth blade is gonna FAR SUPPERIOR to band saws that cost thousands and definitely better than an abrasive saw which is the worst of them all. People complain about the cost of blades for the dry cut machines or that stainless steel is a problem? Why not just purchase a stainless steel cutting blade? Expensive? well let's add it up band saw is way too expensive cuts SUPER SLOW and takes way too much space also takes longer to replace blade add to that coolant cost and ALLOT OF MAINTENANCE. abrasive saw just flat out SUCKS BALLS. that leaves the dry cutting saw which cuts by far the fastest about 10 times faster if not more cuts super clean very easy and fast blade change no maintenance small foot print can be purchased for about $500 for a good one. but they complain about the blades costing over $100? The time saving alone more than justifies the cost of blades.
Great job explaning. On the metal band saw. I usually have a spare blade for it on hand. When I break a blade in the middle of a job I always have a spare blade to get the job done. Then I order a new blade. As a rule I only cut metal from known stock. No used metal from scrap.
Excellent video thank you, very helpful information.
Great information, thank you!
This is a master class.
Thank you for sharing.
Very useful video,thanks
I’m surprised you didn’t bring up a hacksaw, jigsaw or Sawzall. When I was a kid, a hacksaw (I hated using them) and a Black and Decker jigsaw (blade design caused the blades to break constantly) were all I had available to use. When I was 28, I got a two-speed Milwaukee Sawzall and still use it today, 42 years later.
Because he prefers to do it properly and safely
Its been educational, thanks man.
Good info Chris!
Hey Chris, this was a fantastic video. I have been doing a lot of comparisons for a metal cutting tool after being fed up using a grinder, especially after using it to cut 2x2 square tubing for a 7'x3'x30" desk with mitered corners... I greatly appreciate the thoroughness and insight you offered. You've earned my subscription. Keep it up
DW872 is the solution with a Bosch 14" carbide blade. We have a light duty fab shop and do hundreds of cuts of 2"x2"x3/16" - 5"x5"x1/4"with this setup on a single 110$ blade, typically when the blade is near end of its life we pre cut some aluminum / thin stainless and it works awesome.
@@kelnap2294 Thank you for the reply! Why did you decide on that saw versus a bandsaw, cost?
you helped me a lot :D thaaaank youuu ♥
NEVER cut aluminum with an abrasive disk unless it’s a specialty aluminum disk. They clog up and can explode and injure the person using it
True but you can add a special type of wax to any standard disk and it will allow you to grind/cut aluminum
how do they explode? what causes that? 😲
My metal fad mentor showed me when the blade gets gummed up you just force the blade on the material for a brief second to unclog.
Most people don't know you can cut aluminum with wood saws
@MichaelLangell You can also use regular bar soap to prevent clogging abrasives when grinding/cutting aluminum.
Thanks, great intensive video.
23:00 Love your "Measure twice and cut once!" sticker on the saw-body there. :D :P
GREAT VIDEO!! Thank you!!
Great video 👍🙏 many thanks
I used to use a big metal band saw that had a built in band saw blade cutter and welder, so you could just cut an weld blade stock to the size you need, and you could repair blades. Also a power hacksaw! power hacksaws are my favorite!
depends on space and what you can afford, great video
Great information video, thanks .
Good video
Thanks for sharing
Recently tried a Jig saw with a metal cutting blade for cutting curves on plate. impressed me considering it was a basically free solution.
This video was super usefull to me. Thank you. Just small tip: put a stopwatch in background, so we can see for example real cutting time if you speed up the video.
Great video! I really appreciate it! You've got my sub.
Great breakdown , thankyou.
GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU
i have a blade for my cold cut saw, that i can cut both tube and solid, no problems, in fact it cuts any mild steel, its my favorite saw
Thanks for sharing.
Great info for a beginner to know. Will start looking second hand equipment as apposed to buying the cheapest version of a tool.
It's a lot better to rebuild an old quality machine than rebuild a low quality new one.
I bought a plasma cutter, and, I also have abrasive wheels on handheld, right-angle grinders, and the 120vac Milwaukee "porta-band"....
Great video
thanks mate, great info
You spoke of knife making as an example in describing work applications. Yet not a word about the radius the different types of band saws and blade width will be able to accomplish cleanly.
Nice vid 👍🏽
Thank you awsome vid
Congratulations on winning “Assembly Required”! I was watching the show a day later on DVR and I told my wife that I watch you on CZcams. It was like watching a friend and pulling for them to win. Enjoy learning from your channel. What new tools will now be showing up in the shop or do you have other plans for the prize money? Blessings!
Thank you!!! I got myself a used skid steer for the property in upstate ny! Going to be starting there soon!!
@@MakeEverything Skid steer... now that sounds like fun work. Enjoy!
Excellent, thanks
Large horizontal bandsaw is insane for its size, we literally load up 40' of material and stack loads. Have beaten anglemaster a couple times
great video.
It was a pleasure watching the wide variety of saws that you have in your arsenal. Very educational, enlightening and it seemed like visiting a museum. Your explanation skill is exceptional I must say. Having seen all of your robust, best in class collection of saws I am a bit hesitant to ask you about hand held grinder machines which I wanted to know about. They too cut material, right? I had heard these hand held grinders are dangerous machine. If you could highlight some day about their usefulness vis-a-vis the hazzard it would be helpful. I like easy to operate small machine that does not give out sparks and doesn't split with pieces flying all around causing injury, yet does the job well and quick. Is there any thing of such sort?
Subbed. Great information, thanks!
Currently weighing up the simple old problem of the dry-cut/cold-cut/bandsaw vs space/price/noise/accuracy/versatility/speed/portability......
I make things out of old "bed frame" angle iron, utility trailers, truck racks, that sort of thing. It is hard to drill and hard to cut, but it welds up very nicely. Is it tempered or spring steel that makes it so hard to work with? I don't think a porta band saw will work with it. It eats up sawzall blades in no time. I use a 14 inch abrasive chop saw and thin abrasive blades on my angle grinder. Of course my plasma cutter makes short work of cutting it, too.
Its probably regular mild steel. I bet your running your sawzall too fast
Great video. In the past year i have acquired an abrasive, portaband with swag table,evolution 380 and an Evolution circular. And they all have their unique applications. I noticed that magswitch looking angle piece stuck to the vertical bandsaw. You use much of their magnets?
Thanks! I am looking for a small metal cutting saw that will cut 1" square aluminum tubing with a 1/8" wall. Will be cutting the same sizes over and over. I have a VERY SMALL shop. I have saved your video.
Thanks for sharing the info. Would a portaband be suitable for aluminium plate ie the cutting speed? I have been using grinder, circular saw and jigsaw and either the teeth clog of the grinding discs where down in minutes. I use aluminium flatbar upto 20mm thick. Thanks.
Great video! Very informative and I learned a lot. Hey when are you going to merch your hat!
Cold saw blades run $18-$30 bucks to have sharpened. I have been using the same blades for the last 6 years
I just picked up a makita 2107fzk for 150 bucks at the Albuquerque flea market. They have tons of tools there.
Nice video
hi, got a burning question, in our shop we just got cold saw just like u have and we cut square tubes but it cuts kinda slow, a lot slower than chop saw with abrasive disc and its also loud when cuts a tends to vibrate a lot, do we have wrong cuting disc on it or theres something else?
I have all these saws but 2 years ago I purchased a dewalt dry chop saw with the carbide blade. EVERYONE IN THE SHOP COMPLETELY FORGOT WE EVEN HAVE THE OTHER SAWS. we even sold some and put some in storage. The dry cut metal chop saw is just WAY TOO FAST SAVE TOO MUCH TIME AND CUTS THE CLEANEST TO CARE FOR THE COST OF BLADES.
Thanks👍🏽
Thanks for the explanations! Does cutting rusty metal with carbide blades dull them quickly? Also, does rust dull the bandsaw blades?
For a new born everything is new. Every circular metal-saw blade is material specific, If you use the right blade for right material you wont have any issues, you blade will last for a very long time, also advised to clamp your stock on both sides in order to avoiding flyaway while using circular metal cutting saw. I would not grind on the side of the abrasive cut off saw blade. lastly cold saw in general have a coolant running while cutting: hence cold saw. coolant gives longevity to your cutting blade, mainly heat what kills all cutting blades or violent movements
Besides circular and bandsaws-don't overlook reciprocating saws like"Sawzalls" and hand held jigsaws.Then there is also stationary jigsaws-fit them with appropriate bladess and variable speed will cut wood or metals. These machines can be good for home hobbyists-since they are available at any home store along with the blades.They can't make as precise or as smooth of a cut.
I'm totally down with Making but I'm mainly using wood. I need to up my metal working game and the benchtop horizontal bandsaw or a screaming dry-cut chop saw seems just the ticket. In the review you said the bandsaw is going to be quieter. I'd expect that from the good ones but is that cheap WEN quieter than the dry-cut?
Great video....what do you use for stainless? I have an old horizontal saw made in Minnesota (No coolant with hydraulic drop. and an old Delta Wood/Metal bandsaw. I'd like a cold cut saw. One of the neatest little bandsaws I have seen is made in Brazil by Piranna.